RealAnime 4 - General Questions and Troubleshooting Thread

[Sirber]

nope. The raw failed too. I have to find why ;)

[Sirber]

I found the error: #128 :D

More later :)

[Sirber]

C:\Documents and Settings\sirber>C:\Projets\RealAnimeLE\output\besweet\BeSweet.e
xe -core( -input "C:\Projets\RealAnimeLE\output\temp\source.avi" -output "C:\Pro
jets\RealAnimeLE\output\temp\audio.mp4" ) -azid( -s dplii -L -3db ) -ssrc( --rat
e 44100 ) -dimzon( -dllname bse_WinampAacPlusV2.dll -cbr 32 -mode 4 -v 2 ) -ota(
-g max )
BeSweet v1.5b31 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using VOBInput.dll v1.3 by DVD2SVCD (http://www.dvd2svcd.org)
Using hip.dll v1.19 by Myers Carpenter <myers@users.sf.net>
Using libVorbis.dll v1.0 ( Jul 9 2005 ) by John33 (www.inf.ufpr.br/~rja00).
Using Shibatch.dll v0.25 by Naoki Shibata & DSPguru (shibatch.sourceforge.net).
Using bse_WinampAacPlusV2 by dimzon, Build Sep 14 2005, 11:26:10

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : C:\Projets\RealAnimeLE\output\temp\source.avi
[00:00:00:000] | Output: C:\Projets\RealAnimeLE\output\temp\audio.mp4
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: No
[00:00:00:000] | A/V Delay found : 0msec
[00:22:53:616] | Maximum Gain Found : 2.4dB
C:\Documents and Settings\sirber>
:confused:

[Sirber]

removing "normalization" seems to work. It's a besweet bug, I can't do much about it... sorry :(

[Sirber]

@mankey

Does the "timer" goes to the end (anime length)? If yes, my tweaks might be able to bypass that error #128 by:

If (error = 128 && normalization) then
- retry whitout normalization :(
If (error = again && fileexists & filesize > 0) then
- keep that file and continue :D

[Sirber]

exitCode := dos.ExitCode;

// Error #128 tweak
if ((exitCode = 128) and (bRecode = false)) then
begin
if (setting.audio_normalize) then
begin
// Recode again whitout normalization
setting.audio_normalize := false;
bRecode := true;
exitCode := Start();
end;

// Second check
if (exitCode = 128) then
begin
if (FileExists(setting.tracks[filenumber].output)) then
begin
// check filesize
AssignFile(myFile, setting.tracks[filenumber].output);
if (FileSize(myFile) > 0) then
exitCode := 0; // forgive
CloseFile(myFile);
end;
end;
end;In testing, if it works, I will post a link for the binary.

[mankey]

What do you mean with the "timer" (anime length)?

It worked when I made a new avi with the huffyuv codec a wrote about earlier, but maybe the quality changed or something else that's not good. I used Lowest 1 pass when trying (just to get it done quick) and it didn't stop after the audio / before the audio transcode like earlier. I'll try a High 3 pass tomorrow, it takes a long while though (and to analyze the 10gb file ;)) Have to get some sleep now :p

[Sirber]

1) if the anime is 22minute, and besweet goes up to 22 minutes"
2) cool! I will still require you to try the new build :D

[Sirber]

You can get it here (http://www.mytempdir.com/278609)! :D

[Eretria-chan]

Stop using those stupid wait-to-download hosts... =) Use the mirror I got you instead; no waiting - all happy!
Btw, I don't think VBR could be that much of a trouble. I mean, why limit quality because it MIGHT just be a little too complex - or in this case, the size predictability would fail?

[mankey]

Sirber:

Yeah, it goes to the end - 24 minutes something when checking the audio. Afterwards it goes Idle (before the "transcoding").

I tried the new build and it's the same problem, but now I get an error message after checking the audio:

"Encoder error #-1073741819 (BeSweet)"

[Sirber]

@Eretria-chan

I never used VBR in my softs. Also, I tested VBR on anime and it "CBRly" cap at max VBR bitrate range.

@mankey

Ok, you don't have error #128, you have an Access Violation!!!! If you disable Normalization, does it goes to 24 minute and produce a file?

[edit]

If so, I can bypass it (the error) but it could result files with missing sound (not completly, but the end or more).

[mankey]

Sirber:

Even with (Filtering: Normalize - Disabled) I get that Encoder error, same numbers. I used the new build both of the times (Normalize On and Off).

When I have Off it does the transcoding up to 24 minutes (full) and when its done the error appears.

When I have ON it does the audio check (maximum gain) up to 24 minutes (full) and when its done the error appears.

No file is created except the audio.mp4 and source.avi in /temp/ and x264_2pass.log in /output/

[Sirber]

When I have Off it does the transcoding up to 24 minutes (full) and when its done the error appears.What is the filesize of audio.mp4? Is it complete?

[mankey]

Sirber: It's 2,77 MB and it's complete (24:14). There seems to be a little disturbance/swift cut or something at the end of the audio, but it's there in the original also.

[Sirber]

ok. I will add that error to the new "extreme error bypass super code" ;)
I will make a build tonight.

[mankey]

Cool. Can't wait to try it ^_^

[Sirber]

Now your part, feedback me!!! :D

http://www.mytempdir.com/280620

[Eretria-chan]

That's strange... the mirror to eluni.net on your homepage isn't there anymore and I did somehow find a 404 in my server logs. What's up with that? The url works and the file is indeed on the server.

[Sirber]

external linking?

[Eretria-chan]

If you mean external linking is not allowed, it is. Or what else could it mean?
http://www.detritus.qc.ca/ - link for RALE to eluni.net is gone.

[Sirber]

google page caching? :confused:

[Eretria-chan]

Eh... well, I click the link and I see the page with a black background and the following links:
http://www.ody.ca/~oasselinqc/RealAnimeLE_a4.exe
http://files.filefront.com/RealAnimeLE_a4exe/;4387391;;/fileinfo.html
http://www.detritus.qc.ca/files/realanimele/RealAnimeLE_a4.exe

[Sirber]

so it's ok?

[Eretria-chan]

Um, no. I don't see a link to eluni.net.

[Sirber]

It's supposed to have one? :confused:

[Eretria-chan]

A mirror, sheesh.

[Sirber]

You told me to remove it :(

In any case, if it's supposed to be there, what's the URL I should add? :)

[edit]

Sorry, I got confused with the other mirror :(

I'm adding it again!

Thanks!

http://www.eluni.net/downloads/RealAnimeLE/RealAnimeLE_a4.exe

[mankey]

Sirber: I just finished a High 3 pass with the new build! It worked wonderful! Cheers =)
I afterwards tried to manually create another audio track with BeSweet 0.21 (Belight) but it seems to exit just after running through the 24 minutes for the first time, so now even I understand that it has got to do with Besweet :)

Just a question regarding the different qualities; Will there be a lot of difference between High and Extreme? (Insane would probably take a couple of months with this computer) At the moment I'm running High and it takes about 7 hours.

[Sirber]

Extreme uses RDO for bframes. Not sure about quality but it's much more slower.

[Eretria-chan]

You told me to remove it :(

In any case, if it's supposed to be there, what's the URL I should add? :)

[edit]

Sorry, I got confused with the other mirror :(

I'm adding it again!

Thanks!

http://www.eluni.net/downloads/RealAnimeLE/RealAnimeLE_a4.exe
Hehe, you little weirdo ;)
I'm hoping to test a new version where hopefully the besweet bug is fixed :)

[Sirber]

I can't fix besweet bugs, but I can make realanime live with them. I will release Beta 1 tomorrow with more sweet features, like spinning 3D logo while encoding! ;)

[EvilSin]

Looking forward to the new version. Woot! Spinning Graphics while Encoding =)

Have you been able to see to my request? (Just showing filenames with no directories). Its not *THAT* important, it would just make my life a little easier.

Either way I wll be looking forward to the new version and will upload it and send you a link to it when its online with my mirror.

[Sirber]

It will be for the final version (at worst), since it's "cosmetic" and require many code change. But, not much is to be done on LE since it's pretty cool and sexy :D, so final release is very very near :).

[Sirber]

I fixed the AAC handling problem (as input). Once my tests are done, I will release Beta 1.

[Kayser]

Great Sirber! I've been waiting anxiously for that ^__^. Thank you for your hard work!

[ggab]

indeed, thank you!

see u next time :)

[hitbit]

Sirber, can you please add a constant quality (crf) option?

[Sirber]

hum....

I think I can add a new "Mode:" and swap the text on "Bitrate:" for "Quant:" and make it 1 pass...

[Kayser]

Hi everyone! I've been having a lot of trouble with RALE lately. Maybe it's just being paranoid, but I started noticing this after replacing the last RealAnimeLE.exe you posted.
The problem is that I get MKVmerge errors due to 2kb audio track nearly always. I tested with some files and it's like a random thing. For example: With Aria the Animation c3 it produced an audio file after stoping and starting a few times (4 if i'm not mistaken :P, deleting the 2kb audio every time). This problem is not limited to Aria but to nearly everything I encode at random. The audio encoding in those cases doesn't appear to start, instead the 2kb file is created and the video encoding starts. I don't think it's a matter of sources since the same one encoded perfectly fine with the same settings and when I get the MKVmerge error I keep the video track and encode the file again to get the audio track (with RALE, not directly with BeSweet)
Could it be misconfiguration on my side?

[Sirber]

If you recode the same source few times, does it work?

If you get back on a4, does it always work?

[Kayser]

If you recode the same source few times, does it work?

Yes, it does

If you get back on a4, does it always work?

Good question :P, I'll try switching back to base a4 and try a few times with the same sources as this ones. I'll tell you the results later

EDIT: I checked the audio phase with 15 different videos chapters from different animes in a4 and I can say I was indeed being paranoid, the error is in a4 as well... When the temp folder is empty it encodes just fine but when I start encoding and stop in the middle then start again, sometimes, the old audio.mp4 (wich was of X size, depending where i stopped) is replaced with one of 2kb and it starts the video encoding without trying to encode the audio track. That happens as well when I batch encode, sometimes I get the 2kb audio.mp4 but always when there were old files in the temp folder. I hope that helped ^^;;.

[Sirber]

ok.

The only code that changed between a4 and the posted binaries is "besweet error skipping A.I." :D

[Sirber]

I had some thoughts about LE:

* Reduce profiles to "Low, Medium, High"
Where low will be current "Medium", medium the current "High" and high a mix of the current "Extreme" and "Insane!!!".

* Build RealAnime 4 in LE sources
... adding RV10, xvid, Theora and Vorbis

Both LE and RA4 will be released (in separate downloads).

What do you think?

[ggab]

great idea :)

cause with non LE versions u can do more things ;)

[Sirber]

RA4 will be only LE with more codecs. UI will stay the same, only a dropdown menu will be added for codecs.

[Sirber]

Added:
* MP3 input support
* AAC input support
* AC3 input support
* WAV input support

Updated:
* Profiles (Low("Medium in a4"), Medium ("High in a4"), High ("Extreme in a4"))

Fixed:
* AAC decoding
* BeSweet crashes (LE will workaround them)

Removed:
* Audio normalization (Turned on unless BeSweet crash)
* Fast First Pass (Turned on by default)

http://www.detritus.qc.ca

[Sirber]

ToDo:

* Constant Quality mode
* [add your feature here]

:D

[LAIN]

I'v been experiencing problems with besweet encoding (audio encoding part in RALE), while file were encoded (32 kbps Parametric Stereo + normalisation) it were taking me more than ~45 minutes to encode files (to much long)

I'v test the same command line in a dos shell and the encode were made in ~10 sec max and test it with belight with the same result.


I'd like to know if anyone else experience the same problem. I dont know if it is related to intel HT technology or any intel p4 processors.



LAIN

[Eretria-chan]

ToDo:

* Constant Quality mode
* [add your feature here]

:D
Zones maybe...
Or something that allows even more compression for good quality...
The previous attempt ended in disaster as the movie encoded was too blocky :(
Must try another one to see if it's a difficult movie to compress...

Still only alpha 4 at http://www.eluni.net/downloads/RealAnimeLE/