RealAnime 4 - General Questions and Troubleshooting Thread

[killerhex]

yes for dvdrip so i can make them smaller i have a lot of dvd rips or what profile would you recommend to make dvdrip smaller and in good quality

[Sirber]

I will have in 4.1 a way to manage DVD and it will use the profil you asked for, nmormal (PC), iPod, etc.

[killerhex]

does real anime encode to MPEG4 SP

[Sirber]

Does "xvid" sounds any bell? Avalible only in PowerPack! but it's experimenatl.

[edit]

Best you read the first post to learn the features of RealAnime.

[Sirber]

The new filtering tab so far...

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3496/profil7kd.th.jpg (http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=profil7kd.jpg)

You can hand config more rez and FPS.

[ggab]

it is looking very good ;)

go for it mannnn :D


PS: cool ^_^

[damrod]

for the psp profile we will have to decide : 1 or many different profiles ??
meaning xvid or x264 for video codec?
it depends of the firmware of the psp

btw in cas of the psp profile..resize/crop/fps will be automatic (in firmware 2.6 psp can handle 24fps, not only 30fps...but not 25fps...argggg)

[Sirber]

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6071/profil2ev.jpg

:confused:

[Sirber]

@damrod

There will be 1 profile for PSP where you can choose xvid or x264. Also, the profile is free to set filtering (GUI), then the user is free to change them.

[garbii]

I added RMVB, ASF, WMV as supported input.

That's a very nice feature :) ... Aspacially RMVB input is highly apraciated :)

As for the downloads ... Hope u do not mind these increase?
I advertised a bit your software on some anime sites :P

[Sirber]

That's a very nice feature :) ... Aspacially RMVB input is highly apraciated :)

As for the downloads ... Hope u do not mind these increase?
I advertised a bit your software on some anime sites :PThe files itself are hosted on a mirror, so my site is always #1. Thanks for the advertisement! :D

[Yod4z]

I'm working on a "Profile" thing:

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/8798/profil4sk.th.jpg (http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=profil4sk.jpg)

So it will be more user friendly and more effective. When you select a profil, codecs that can be used with it will be removed, same for containers. Filtering will be set too.
and the GP2x ? :D

[Sirber]

huh ?

[Eretria-chan]

That's a very nice feature :) ... Aspacially RMVB input is highly apraciated :)

As for the downloads ... Hope u do not mind these increase?
I advertised a bit your software on some anime sites :P
The files are hosted on my mirror, but hey - I have bandwidth to spare. Plenty, in fact, so as long as Sirber remains happy so will I! :sly:

[Sirber]

Well, I'm not happy today. My main and dev linux server at work crashed. "/dev/hda1 not found", then kernel panic. never reboot linux servers, NEVER :devil:

[garbii]

Well .... It wasn't some kind of big advertisment .... Just somebody asked in topic about encoding rmvb from mkv .... I think i gave them a good solution : realanime link :)
.............

If i manage to this today I will see how h264 lib works under linux... it's a beta but I just found that avidemux (a linux program similliar to Virtualdub) can use experimentaly x264 .... Though they writed on forum that the results are worst then xvid :(

[Sirber]

Well, it's experimental (RMVB to MKV). I only tested if the encoding worked, I did not even finish first pass.

[garbii]

Well, it's experimental (RMVB to MKV). I only tested if the encoding worked, I did not even finish first pass.

Heh ... I meant the other way mkv to rmvb .... Most people get furious becouse they loose subs or get the english dub :)
............
as for avidemux ... well it wasn't good :( ...

[Sirber]

Well... mkv to rmvb, if there are too much audio or sub track, it will output a mkv :)

[damrod]

else you restrict only one audio and no sub ;-)
or using textsub/vobsub directly in an avs file ?

not always synvhro !!

[Eretria-chan]

Well, I'm not happy today. My main and dev linux server at work crashed. "/dev/hda1 not found", then kernel panic. never reboot linux servers, NEVER :devil:
Now, now... put that devil away :sly: We all know Operating Systems crashes from time to time :o

[Inventive Software]

Yeah, but not Linux. Or at least not very often. ;)

[Eretria-chan]

They all do... sometime.

[nm]

Well, I'm not happy today. My main and dev linux server at work crashed. "/dev/hda1 not found", then kernel panic. never reboot linux servers, NEVER :devil:
Sounds like misconfiguration (in /etc/fstab, or there was a kernel update and you don't have the correct IDE drivers anymore), or perhaps a hardware failure.

[Sirber]

I was still using and automounting devfs (/dev). The new gentoo updates was using udev so it was conflicting.

[nm]

If i manage to this today I will see how h264 lib works under linux... it's a beta but I just found that avidemux (a linux program similliar to Virtualdub) can use experimentaly x264 .... Though they writed on forum that the results are worst then xvid :(
What are you actually looking for? How to use x264 in Linux, an encoding GUI or an editor? Personally I just use mencoder, which supports transcoding from almost any source to H.264 through newest self-built x264. I use it through scripts and command line, but there are some frontends (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/projects.html) (GUIs) that run on Linux and may even support x264 options, although I haven't tried them. Also Handbrake (http://handbrake.m0k.org/) may be useful.

Avidemux looks promising, but I've never tried it? What problems did you have?

[nmatos]

Hi Sirber!
Now my RA4(3) with(RPP) is working wonderfully well.
You are "the man".
Thank you very, very much.

[XH42]

Sirber, it appears that the reason why it did not show the info for the mkv file is because it had chinese characters in it. Is it possible to have unicode or some kind of other language support for it (of course, once I change the name of the file to English it worked fine)?

[Sirber]

hum...

What does RealAnime do when it doesn't work?

[garbii]

What are you actually looking for? How to use x264 in Linux, an encoding GUI or an editor? Personally I just use mencoder, which supports transcoding from almost any source to H.264 through newest self-built x264. I use it through scripts and command line, but there are some frontends (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/projects.html) (GUIs) that run on Linux and may even support x264 options, although I haven't tried them. Also Handbrake (http://handbrake.m0k.org/) may be useful.

Avidemux looks promising, but I've never tried it? What problems did you have?
2 pass h264 not working quite well.. Devs of avidemux say the full support will be in next realese 2.2 ......
I also had some problems with compilation of avidemux , but that's another story ;)


What I'm looking for? Basicly I wanted sth to encode rmvb ... as this is a format most my media are, and I used it in windows.

Unfortunately realproducer for linux can encode only from uncompressed files :( This seriously sucks.

As for mencoder .. I used it (with a GUI as I prefer using gui then cli) It was called gmencoder ... It was a very good software, but unfortunately with old codecks.

Is h264 a feature in newest mencoder? Do u have to compile it from source to have h264 enabled or is a pre-made distro package also good?

[Sirber]

file --> mencoder --> raw --> producer :)

[garbii]

file --> mencoder --> raw --> producer :)
= not enough diskspace ... frankly my hd is always full :)

[Sirber]

get a 320GB for $120 on best buy ;)

I'm at 780GB now :D

[nm]

What I'm looking for? Basicly I wanted sth to encode rmvb ... as this is a format most my media are, and I used it in windows.
So are you trying to encode TO rmvb or FROM rmvb to H.264?

As for mencoder .. I used it (with a GUI as I prefer using gui then cli) It was called gmencoder ... It was a very good software, but unfortunately with old codecks.
Yes, most of the frontends probably lack the most recent stuff that is available in MPlayer CVS. They also don't include x264 since it is external to the MPlayer source code tree and therefore not available in most Mencoder binary packages.

Is h264 a feature in newest mencoder? Do u have to compile it from source to have h264 enabled or is a pre-made distro package also good?
Mencoder has had x264 support at least since 2004, but you'll probably need to compile it yourself. That is not hard once you know what to do. Learning this stuff will open a lot of new possibilities, so IMO it is time well spent. Perhaps some binaries include x264 support too, so you could try them first. Run "mencoder -ovc help" in a terminal and see if the list of codecs includes x264.

[garbii]

So are you trying to encode TO rmvb or FROM rmvb to H.264?

Yes ...

Well I downloaded mencoder from marillat debian repo ... and it works with x264 :P

mencoder -ovc x264 -x264encopts bitrate=300 /home/valgaav/Anime/Midorinohibi/midori12.avi -o /home/valgaav/test.avi -oac mp3lame -lameopts mode=3 vbr=0:br=32

Am i doing this command in a good way?


Still I'm a lazy guy and would prefer a gui ... but none of them has h264 option just as u said.

As for compilation I know how to do it, I had compiled several programs, yet it takes time so I prefer to use packages whenever I can

[Sirber]

Please guys it's getting OT :)

[anne_so78]

RealAnime 4 PowerPack 4.0.0 RC3:
Playing RealAnime encoded *.mkv files in Media Player Classic while utilizing the "audio delay" function within MPC to find out how much delay is inherent within the files, I can tell that it is about 130ms. Configuring RealAnime to encode with a delay of -130ms results in properly synchronized matroska files. However, this is not the case with *.mp4 files, as files encoded into this container format need only a -40ms to correct the delay, and sych-errors are much harder to notice in uncorrected files (when compared to its matroska counterparts). How exactly does RealAnimes's delay function work? And, aren't all container formats supposed to respond identically to a single delay-value within RealAnime?

All of the above are specific only to AAC+ v2 encoding.

How low is "very very low"? (i.e- when exactly to use low bitrate matrix?)

Bug: Minimizing RealAnime and then re-opening through start-menu shortcut leads to the message "RealAnime is already running" and Real-Anime's tabs to cease functioning. Minimizing RealAnime and then re-opening from the system-tray restores the tab functionality.

Some suggestions: An option to disable audio normalization. A feature to edit and disable "Clip Text" (Currently it is "Encoded with : RealAnime 4 PowerPack 4.0.0 RC3"). It would be nice having RealAnime free from typographical, grammatical and other textual errors; do you welcome these kind of suggestions/corrections?

Although it is advised to switch off all post-processing, noise etc. in the decoder before encoding, I got better results encoding into "x264, no filtering, bitrate190" from an "xvid, bitrate386" source while having ffdshow's postprocessing switched on to "full, mplayer, accurate deblocking". However, this might be due to the source and encode being of low bitrate.

[XH42]

Sirber:
hum...

What does RealAnime do when it doesn't work?

It doesn't do anything, just gives me a empty window with no info in it.

[Sirber]

RealAnime 4 PowerPack 4.0.0 RC3:
Playing RealAnime encoded *.mkv files in Media Player Classic while utilizing the "audio delay" function within MPC to find out how much delay is inherent within the files, I can tell that it is about 130ms. Configuring RealAnime to encode with a delay of -130ms results in properly synchronized matroska files. However, this is not the case with *.mp4 files, as files encoded into this container format need only a -40ms to correct the delay, and sych-errors are much harder to notice in uncorrected files (when compared to its matroska counterparts). How exactly does RealAnimes's delay function work? And, aren't all container formats supposed to respond identically to a single delay-value within RealAnime?

All of the above are specific only to AAC+ v2 encoding.I think the delay is a container issue. Maybe if I add the flag "--audio-is-sbr" to matroska it would help. The delay is not noticable with most source. If you find it too "delayed", you can use the MKV gui to remerge it with a delay. No need of recoding :)
How low is "very very low"? (i.e- when exactly to use low bitrate matrix?)I'd say bellow 200kbps for 640x480@24 fps. I never used it since it's incompatible with most decoders.
Bug: Minimizing RealAnime and then re-opening through start-menu shortcut leads to the message "RealAnime is already running" and Real-Anime's tabs to cease functioning. Minimizing RealAnime and then re-opening from the system-tray restores the tab functionality.Yeah, RealAnime thinks it's still "minimised".

Some suggestions: An option to disable audio normalization. A feature to edit and disable "Clip Text" (Currently it is "Encoded with : RealAnime 4 PowerPack 4.0.0 RC3").Ok to the first one, not sure for the second.
It would be nice having RealAnime free from typographical, grammatical and other textual errors; do you welcome these kind of suggestions/corrections?Can you point me some? I'm french :)
Although it is advised to switch off all post-processing, noise etc. in the decoder before encoding, I got better results encoding into "x264, no filtering, bitrate190" from an "xvid, bitrate386" source while having ffdshow's postprocessing switched on to "full, mplayer, accurate deblocking". However, this might be due to the source and encode being of low bitrate.Post processing "wash" the source, so it's easier on the encoder.

[Sirber]

I added a blog to my website:

http://my.opera.com/sirber/blog/

It will replace the boring news on my site.

[ggab]

Post processing "wash" the source, so it's easier on the encoder.
so, is it recommended to have postprocessing switched on to "full, mplayer, accurate deblocking" for all sources, or which ones?

* what is full?

[vanger]

And my small wish list :D :
1. Nothing to do (exit program or turn of pc) if error occurred.
2. Add a Hibernate in to do list.
3. Show dialog after encoding (for example: "Do you want to turn off pc (or hibernate)?" buttons "Yes"/"No" and timer for 10 seconds).

;)

[ggab]

what Trellis option does RA use, when it is checked in advanced tab?

--trellis 1
or --trellis 2 ?

if the answer is 1, does mean that if a select Medium or High Preset, it will use just --trellis 1 with both ones, no?



can u post the profiles' code of current RC3?

// Presets
case setting.video_quality of
0: // Low
begin
strOptions := strOptions + 'xxxxxxxxxx';
..........
end;
1: // Med
2: // High


thanks :)

edit: cases from 0 to 2

[ggab]

what happen here? i have just encoded this XVID & MP3 ichigo clip, with NOT encode audio, and i got 2 video tracks!

if a set encode audio, the file is right, 1 video and 1 audio track

original 12secs xvid avi with mp3 128kbps: 3.3mb
mkv, x264-500kb +acc32: 1mb
mkv, x264-500kb +mp3128(default): 4mb ¿!?!

General
Count : 169
Kind of stream : General
Count of video strea : 2
Count of audio strea : 1
Count of text stream : 0
Count of chapter str : 0
Count of image strea : 0
Complete name : C:\Program Files\RealAnime 40rc3\output\Ichigo 100% - Promo h700 T f-1.mkv
Folder name : C:\Program Files\RealAnime 40rc3\output
File name : Ichigo 100% - Promo h700 T f-1.mkv
File extension : mkv
File size : 4827137
File size : 4.60 MiB
File size : 5 MiB
File size : 4.6 MiB
File size : 4.60 MiB
File size : 4.604 MiB
Format : Matroska
Format : Matroska
Format/Url : http://www.matroska.org
Format/Extensions : MKV MKA MKS
Overal BitRate : 2600828
Overal BitRate : 2601 KBps
PlayTime : 14848.000
PlayTime : 14s 848ms
PlayTime : 14s 848ms
PlayTime : 14s 848ms
PlayTime : 00:00:14.848
Title : Encoded with : RealAnime 4 PowerPack 4.0.0 RC3
Writing application : mkvmerge v1.6.5 ('Watcher Of The Skies') built on Dec 7 2005 18:53:53
Writing library : libebml v0.7.6 + libmatroska v0.8.0
Codecs Video : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC / XviD
Video_Language_List : /
Audio codecs : MPEG1/2 L3
Audio_Language_List : und
Date : UTC 2006-02-04 08:40:57

Video #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 2
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 0
ID : 1
UniqueID : 1
Codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Width : 640
Height : 480
Aspect ratio : 1.333
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Language : eng

Video #1
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 2
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 1
ID : 2
UniqueID : 1511876258
Codec : XVID
Codec : XviD
Codec/Info : XviD project
Codec/Url : http://www.koepi.org/xvid.shtml
Width : 640
Height : 480
Aspect ratio : 1.333
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Resolution : 24
Language : jpn

Audio #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
StreamKindID : 0
ID : 3
UniqueID : 2165944475
Codec : A_MPEG/L3
Codec : MPEG1/2 L3
Codec/Info : MPEG1 or 2 Audio Layer 3
Codec/Url : http://www.iis.fraunhofer.de/amm/index.html
Language : und
Language : und

[Sirber]

@ggab

I prefer not so use filtering (aka ffdshow) unless the source is really bad.

About the profiles, best get a SVN client and look in the code directly. Half of the settings aren't in the "quality profiles" and are general.

Xvid and AVC in the same MKV :D Nice! :D

@vanger

I'll look about that.

[Sirber]

IMO mplayer PP is less destructive and elss blury, but it can let out some blocks.

[anne_so78]

Why doesn't RA display ClearType text on ClearType enabled laptop screens? This would go a long way in improving the aesthetics of the program...

[Sirber]

I have no idea. Do you use XP themes?

[anne_so78]

I use "Olive Green" color scheme. No other special modifications have been made to my XP shell. Also, I use microsoft's powertoy "ClearType Tuner" to enable custom cleartyping on my laptop. Does cleartype in RA work for you?

[Sirber]

I'm using a good old 19" CRT monitor. I cannot help on that issue. Sorry :(

[anne_so78]

Most programs on my system are able to display clear-type text. A few however are unable to. I can give two examples besides RA (included within RA): Rename4U (except menus, which are displayed correctly) and YAMB MP4 GUI. I wonder what is common to all these programs...

[Sirber]

All made with Delphi? hehe

[Danisan]

Hi...

I tried to run RA with x264 Rev. 413 and Windows XP gives me one of it's "x264.exe has enountered a problem and needs to close" error messages and crashes.

Is this just my computer, or is RA incompatible with 413?

EDIT: RA gives this error code #-1073741819 (x264)

[Sirber]

Rev 413 crashed with an Access Violation. It has no link with RealAnime. Get another x264 build :)

[LAIN]

Hi,

Great news, log implentation almost completed (it was much more easyer than i thought, but it need few test to tweak the filtering) it will add a log in the realanime folder named "RealAnime.log" ... there work to do, but it will be made soon!!! and help up to debug the application!! :D

it will be in the next release.


LAIN

[garbii]

Just a silly note on Linux realproducer :

How would the encoding work ... Maybe uncompress one minute(part, frame I dunno what is better ) of the file, then compress it with producer and so on.... then in the end combine all those minutes in one finished file. In that way it would be possible to encode the file without having to decompress the whole file .

but is this even possible? or maybe very hard to do?

[Sirber]

@garbii

that would screw the bitrate curve.

[ggab]

option to set ALWAYS ON TOP on/off :)



so far, these 2 clip with besweet errors (when Encode Audio ON):

both #-1073741819

General
Count : 169
Kind of stream : General
Count of video strea : 1
Count of audio strea : 1
Count of text stream : 0
Count of chapter str : 0
Count of image strea : 0
Complete name : C:\Documents and Settings\Propietario\Escritorio\Videos01\+Inuyasha Ending 3 (Acoustic).avi
Folder name : C:\Documents and Settings\Propietario\Escritorio\Videos01
File name : +Inuyasha Ending 3 (Acoustic).avi
File extension : avi
File size : 40497664
File size : 38.6 MiB
File size : 39 MiB
File size : 39 MiB
File size : 38.6 MiB
File size : 38.62 MiB
Format : AVI
Format : Audio Video Interleave
Format/Extensions : AVI
Overal BitRate : 987145
Overal BitRate : 987 KBps
PlayTime : 328200
PlayTime : 5mn 28s
PlayTime : 5mn 28s 200ms
PlayTime : 5mn 28s
PlayTime : 00:05:28.200
Codecs Video : DivX 5
Audio codecs : MPEG1/2 L3

Video #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : DX50
Codec : DivX 5
Codec/Info : (MPEG4) DivX Networks
Codec/Url : http://www.divx.com
Bit rate : 782145
Bit rate : 782 KBps
Width : 720
Height : 480
Aspect ratio : 1.500
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 30.000
Frame rate : 30
FrameCount : 9846
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.075

Audio #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : 55
Codec : MPEG1/2 L3
Codec/Info : MPEG1 or 2 Audio Layer 3
Codec/Url : http://www.iis.fraunhofer.de/amm/index.html
Bit rate : 192000
Bit rate : 192 KBps
Channels : 2
Channels : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44100
Sampling rate : 44 KHz


General
Count : 169
Kind of stream : General
Count of video strea : 1
Count of audio strea : 1
Count of text stream : 0
Count of chapter str : 0
Count of image strea : 0
Complete name : C:\Documents and Settings\Propietario\Escritorio\Videos01\+Inuyasha Ending 3.avi
Folder name : C:\Documents and Settings\Propietario\Escritorio\Videos01
File name : +Inuyasha Ending 3.avi
File extension : avi
File size : 46161408
File size : 44.0 MiB
File size : 44 MiB
File size : 44 MiB
File size : 44.0 MiB
File size : 44.02 MiB
Format : AVI
Format : Audio Video Interleave
Format/Extensions : AVI
Overal BitRate : 981288
Overal BitRate : 981 KBps
PlayTime : 376333
PlayTime : 6mn 16s
PlayTime : 6mn 16s 333ms
PlayTime : 6mn 16s
PlayTime : 00:06:16.333
Codecs Video : DivX 5
Audio codecs : MPEG1/2 L3

Video #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : DX50
Codec : DivX 5
Codec/Info : (MPEG4) DivX Networks
Codec/Url : http://www.divx.com
Bit rate : 776288
Bit rate : 776 KBps
Width : 720
Height : 480
Aspect ratio : 1.500
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 30.000
Frame rate : 30
FrameCount : 11289
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.075

Audio #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : 55
Codec : MPEG1/2 L3
Codec/Info : MPEG1 or 2 Audio Layer 3
Codec/Url : http://www.iis.fraunhofer.de/amm/index.html
Bit rate : 192000
Bit rate : 192 KBps
Channels : 2
Channels : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44100
Sampling rate : 44 KHz

[anne_so78]

All made with Delphi? hehe
I guess so... I have another program on my system which cannot output ClearType text, and guess what it says in its "About" dialog box... "From Vision to Code - Powered by Delphi"

option to set ALWAYS ON TOP on/off :)
I second that. I don't see how "always on top", other than being a nuisance, will ever come in handy, so disabling it completely shouldn't hurt either...

[Sirber]

option to set ALWAYS ON TOP on/off :)Why?
so far, these 2 clip with besweet errors (when Encode Audio ON):Best would be to open it in VBud and save it in RAW.

[Sirber]

I second that. I don't see how "always on top", other than being a nuisance, will ever come in handy, so disabling it completely shouldn't hurt either...It's pretty usefull for drag drop...

[anne_so78]

It's pretty usefull for drag drop...
That is redundant. This is because one could bring a RealAnime window into view for "drag and drop" by dragging those objects over RealAnime's taskbar shortcut, thereby bringing RealAnime's window on top for a "drop".

[Sirber]

But I love to browse my files while RA is on top for easy dropping. The window is small so it doesn't cover much. But, I will add an option to disable it.

[anne_so78]

Can you point me some? I'm french :)
format: location>> suggested replacement text
Status Bar>> Stopping...
Settings>Basic>Quality>> The higher the quality, the slower the encoding.
Settings>Basic>Mode>> More passes take more time, but quality is greater.
Settings>Basic>Low Complexity Profiles>> Check this if you encode for Pocket PC, iPod or cellphone.
Settings>Basic>Container>> NOT Realtime; Doesn't come into effect until next encode.
Settings>Adv.>> Low Bitrate Matrix
Settings>Adv.>Low Bitrate Matrice>> Provides improved quality at bitrates lower than XXX.
Settings>Adv.>Priority>> NOT Realtime; Doesn't come into effect until next encode.
Settings>Video Filtering>Preview>> Play back the source with the filters below.
Tools>> Bitrate Calculator (req. .NET 2.0)
Tools>> MSU Video Quality Measure
About>> Product: RealAnime 4
About>> Bundled with RealAnime 4:
About>> MSU Video Quality Measure
About>> RealAnime Bitrate Calculator
About>> Bundled with PowerPack:

[Sirber]

thanks!

[Sirber]

hum... bad bad

@Lain

RealAnime uses 8MB RAM now, used to be ~2MB :( New log system... :)

[Eretria-chan]

But I love to browse my files while RA is on top for easy dropping. The window is small so it doesn't cover much. But, I will add an option to disable it.
I say, increase the window size. It looks patheticly small on 1920 x 1200 resolution :eek:
But that's just my opinion. Btw, some things, like the zones also looks retarded in that small window size.

[Sirber]

I don't have enough settings to fill a bigger window.
Also, 3 zones is widely enough for a 24 minute anime ;)

[Eretria-chan]

But it still looks retarded :p
But it's your decision.

[Sirber]

In next version, if AVI is not supported by RealAnime (ex: WMV3 + AAC = AVI), it will go via AVISynth and work. THe only bad side is that it makes huge temp files :(

[ggab]

and can u create an option to allow a temporal WAV file (from the source, whatever the audio format is).
Thus, the audio encoding part (besweet) will not fail :)

e.g. / example

Det. Conan Movie 2 Trailer.avi with xvid and a "strange" audio track, like AU, Mpeg1 layer 1 or 2, AIFF, etc

so RealAnime / Besweet can extract the audio from source file, to a WAV file
and then re-encode it without errors

[Sirber]

In dev version, faulty AVI will go via AVISynth. So everything work well.

P.S. Already posted somewhere last page ;)

[Sirber]

I'm getting exitCode -1073741571 from x264 after 3% of first pass from AVI (WMV3, AAC) via DiretShowSource.

[2006-02-07 : 18:28:30] : "C:\Program Files\RealAnime 4\bin\x264.exe" --me dia --subme 1 --ref 0 --analyse "none" --weightb --b-pyramid --bime --direct spatial --bframes 3 --filter 1:1 --bitrate 368 --pass 1 --no-fast-pskip --no-psnr --progress --threads 1 -o "NUL:" "C:\Program Files\RealAnime 4\temp\1.avs"
[2006-02-07 : 18:29:24] : avis [info]: 640x480 @ 23.98 fps (34456 frames)
[2006-02-07 : 18:29:24] : x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 3DNow!

I'm gonna try to use avs2avi with codec YV12, then x264 again

[Sirber]

I'm gonna try to use avs2avi with codec YV12, then x264 againHum... I will have to recommend 20GB HDD free :D

[Sirber]

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8145/task1bo.th.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=task1bo.jpg)

woot woot

[LAIN]

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8145/task1bo.th.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=task1bo.jpg)

woot woot

i'v run it on my laptop and it take ~8 mb to 9mb max :S your computer is evil :P

LAIN

[Sirber]

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7191/23dk2.jpg

:devil:

[anne_so78]

here's another typo
Settings>Adv.>> Priority

[anne_so78]

If I don't like to customize the "B Frames" value (and also haven't a clue what B-Frames are...) but would prefer to let x264 choose a proper value by itself for me, what must I enter into the "B-Frames" field? Perhaps you should add a checkbox before the "B-Frames" field (unchecked, by default) so that users who don't want to mess with those advanced settings, don't have to.

[Sirber]

@anne_so78

If you don't have no clue about advanced stuff, just don't go there. It will default to 3 bframes for normal encodes, and automaticly set 1 or 0 if you use PSP/iPod/PPC profiles (in 4.0).

[anne_so78]

It will default to 3 bframes for normal encodes
What is "It"?. Do you mean to say that, if unspecified, x264's value for B-Frames is always 3?

[Sirber]

What is "It"?. Do you mean to say that, if unspecified, x264's value for B-Frames is always 3?RealAnime will set 3 unless you touch it.

[anne_so78]

Yes, I know. But suppose RealAnime never had an option to customize B-Frame values, then what value would it be? (i.e, what value would the x264 encoder assign for B-Frames if this value isn't explicitly specified? I'm hoping you'd say 3...). I just want to be sure that 3 B-Frame's isn't a RealAnime speciality...

[Sirber]

Before the option was exposed I hardcoded 3 bframes ;)
I don't know what is x264 true default.

[anne_so78]

Before the option was exposed I hardcoded 3 bframes ;)
I don't know what is x264 true default.
Well, then could you include an option to not pass any value to x264 regarding B-Frames (like a checkbox to uncheck, or a 'default' option). Because, when I don't know an encoding parameter's function, I would rather not pass a value of that function to the encoder, but would trust the encoder to select an appropriate default value for me. No offense, but do you have to leave me with no option but to rely on your experience/judgement regarding B-Frames ?

[Sirber]

No offense, but do you have to leave me with no option but to rely on your experience/judgement regarding B-Frames ?Yes! :D

Have a read here (http://encyclopedia.tfd.com/B-frame) and learn how to use it! Or leave the default (3). It's in advance section, if you don't feel confortable with advanced stuff, just leave it like it is and only use "basic". I already set a ton of parameters for each codec that you have no control over, which are set by the Quality menu.

[Eretria-chan]

I just watched one movie that I compressed using your newest version. It's been a long time since I last used your tool, but...
I must say that the quality for such low filesize is very impressive! Some blocks and a few noise here and there, but with post processing it was almost perfect!
The only grip is the audio quality... sometimes I could hear the bad quality at the default 32 kbps. Guess I need to increase it.
This was done with 2-pass high profile. I guess I also need an upgrade because the second pass went in 2-2.5 fps...

[Sirber]

Don't use PP with x264, it already has inloop filtering.
Defaults were made for 640c480, anime content.
IMO, best do 3 pass medium than 2 pass high.

[Eretria-chan]

To be specific, I used noise reduction in ffdshow.
I'll try 3-pass medium next!

[Sirber]

You should try C3D with anime preset. Should be better.

[Eretria-chan]

You forget I don't know anything about avisynth and most filters and stuff besides ffdshow :) And if it in ffdshow, then where? :p

[Sirber]

Go in filtering tab, go in noise reduction menu, select Convolution3D, then anime HQ or LQ. LQ remove more noise than HQ. Then click Add.

[Eretria-chan]

Thank you very much, but, what exactly is this? Is this some kind of post processing affect applied by x264 or pre-processing? Ahhhh, I just don't know - and that's why I use RealAnime!

[Sirber]

It's a filtering applied before x264, so it's pre-processing, and it's a 3D noise remover. It's better than per-frame noise remover. In next version, filtering will be easier.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6568/filtering9la.th.png (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=filtering9la.png)

[Sirber]

Anyone got troubles encoding Naruto 171? BeSweet just dies on me saying it worked, but it produced a 1KB .AAC file :(

I might redirect all AVI source via AVISynth to prevent any problem with BeSweet and it's bugged AVI management.

[ggab]

"redirect all AVI source via AVISynth to prevent any problem"

i guess there is not another choise to avoid the besweet error's codes....



in the new version filtering tab (or another one), do not forget to add the preview button, that launch the avisync script to mplayer.exe :)

[Eretria-chan]

It's a filtering applied before x264, so it's pre-processing, and it's a 3D noise remover. It's better than per-frame noise remover. In next version, filtering will be easier.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6568/filtering9la.th.png (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=filtering9la.png)
Well, I guess will have to test.
But unless the original is noisy, it won't work very well, will it?

[Sirber]

If you use filtering on a source that doesn't need it, you will kill details and make it soft.

[killerhex]

nice work on the filtering menus for v4.1

[Sirber]

It's less "customizable" but anyway v4.0 supports AVS as input. (not RC3)

[BoostAddict]

Hey Sirber, I would love to use x264 but I can't because I stream my anime through XBMC (Xbox Media Center) and x264/h264 (I don't know the difference) makes it lag

but I found sharktooth's profile http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=101813
and this post right here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=761466#post761466

and it doesn't lag at all

I was wondering if it's possible that you could use those settings for one of your profiles
If possible it would be really great and I'd appreciate it alot!

Keep up the good work

Thanks

[Sirber]

"Normal" profil has been made for med-end PC playback, not 700MHz celeron ;)

a commandline would be more usefull than some megui profiles if you want me to add a xbox profile.

[Sirber]

It's less "customizable" but anyway v4.0 supports AVS as input. (not RC3)Seems RC3 has AVS input.

[BoostAddict]

"Normal" profil has been made for med-end PC playback, not 700MHz celeron ;)

a commandline would be more usefull than some megui profiles if you want me to add a xbox profile.

how about an "Xbox" profile, like you do for ipod or psp :thanks: :o

EDIT just read your second line, i'll try looking for a commandline

Here's the commandline taken from megui-x264 show commandline that works for xbox

C:\Program Files\x264\x264.exe --pass 2 --bitrate 1000 --stats ".stats" --bframes 2 --b-rdo --nf --no-cabac --subme 6 --analyse p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,p4x4 --qpmin 18 --qcomp 0.3 --me umh --progress --no-psnr --output "" ""

[Sirber]

how about an "Xbox" profile, like you do for ipod or psp :thanks: :o

EDIT just read your second line, i'll try looking for a commandline

Here's the commandline taken from megui-x264 show commandline that works for xbox

C:\Program Files\x264\x264.exe --pass 2 --bitrate 1000 --stats ".stats" --bframes 2 --b-rdo --nf --no-cabac --subme 6 --analyse p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,p4x4 --qpmin 18 --qcomp 0.3 --me umh --progress --no-psnr --output "" ""
Alright! Gonna add one. Looks like iPod but with more rez :)

[BoostAddict]

:bowdown: you the man!!!

[bob0r]

In fact, that xbox profile is WAY OUT TO DATE.
The latest XBMC i used worked fine with almost all features, except CQM.

For example my latest encode x264.429.cbs_csi_hdtv.sample.624x352.mp4

x264 --progress --pass 1 --bframes 16 --me dia --ref 1 --subme 1 --no-fast-pskip --filter -3:-3 --analyse none --output NUL cap.avs
x264 --progress --pass 2 --bitrate 528 --bframes 16 --b-pyramid --b-rdo --weightb --ref 16 --mixed-refs --trellis 1 --me umh --bime --subme 6 --8x8dct --no-fast-pskip --filter -3:-3 --analyse all --output x264.mp4 cap.avs

(bitrate 1024 runs fine too)

Runs very smooth on my xbox, using: XBMC.2006.0119

Xbox mostly has problems with high resolutions (like any PC :p)

So for xbox, there is no real profile needed, well maybe disable CQM only, but thats not on by default anyway.

[Sirber]

@bobor

Then, Normal profile should do. Should I force a rez for xbox (like I do with iPod / PSP)? Like 640x480, with black bars if it's 16:9 (displayed 640x480)?

[bob0r]

@Sirber

Nop

People who want xbox encodes, just should update to latest XBMC and figure their own wanted res, just like on your PC.

[Sirber]

ok!

Another job well done ;)

[BoostAddict]

Dang I'll try updating

I always thought that if you don't have problems with a certain version, you really shouldn't update
and i also thought the xbox processor would never be able to handle h/x264

[Sirber]

Day by day, x264 decoding is faster :)

[Kostarum Rex Persia]

@ Sirber

That's really good news. About newest AAC+ V2 encoder from Winamp 5.2 beta, do you plan to use that codec when Winamp 5.2 final came out?

[Xicor]

I tried using x264 for nth pass encoding, but the encoding is really slow (4fps! per pass)

I run on a dual core 2-Intel Pentium 4, 3201MHz. So as you can see my PC is up to date. Is this normal for x264, because this was my first time using it?

[Sirber]

I assume you used "High quality". I get ~2FPS on my 3000+ :)
Best use 3-pass @ Medium, and you can add trellis in the Advanced tab. You should get around 12FPS.

[damrod]

and 12 fps with x264 is great !!
:-p

[Xicor]

In total it comes around to 7 hours for a 24-minute encode. It's not that bad I guess, since the results are pretty good:cool:

[Sirber]

Which settings?

[damrod]

long time settings ? :p

[Veterinar]

Hi all.

I tested RealAnime on my material quite a bit. Simple using works well. Now I want to go further. I discovered some filters on 'Video Filtering' page along with some presets. The question is what to choose.

What filters and what presets worth most?

[Sirber]

Hi!

Best not filter. You filter only if your source is bad. Like blury, squary, too small, too big, etc. You can always press "Preview" and see what your filtering do. Also, filtering takes CPU and make the encode slower :)

[DnA]

What about the MPEG and M2V containers support? I tried to convert but MPEG files converting gives error #57 in BeSweet and M2V can not be dragged into the RealAnime?
Otherwise the GUI is cool :)

[Sirber]

can you post the "info" of your mpeg? It'S in the rightclick menu in the file list. About M2V, you need to use DGIndex on it like every MPEG2 source.

[killerhex]

can real anime encode this file

trea : 1
Count of text stream : 1
Count of chapter str : 0
Count of image strea : 0
Complete name : [gg]_MS_igLoo_01_(h264)_[0896E2BB
Folder name : MS Igloo
File name : [gg]_MS_igLoo_01_(h264)_[0896E2BB].mkv
File extension : mkv
File size : 367011133
File size : 350 MiB
File size : 350 MiB
File size : 350 MiB
File size : 350 MiB
File size : 350.0 MiB
Format : Matroska
Format : Matroska
Format/Url : http://www.matroska.org
Format/Extensions : MKV MKA MKS
Overal BitRate : 1748038
Overal BitRate : 1748 KBps
PlayTime : 1679648.000
PlayTime : 27mn 59s
PlayTime : 27mn 59s 648ms
PlayTime : 27mn 59s
PlayTime : 00:27:59.648
Title : [gg] MS IGLOO - 01
Writing application : mkvmerge v1.6.5 ('Watcher Of The Skies') built on Dec 7 2005 18:53:53
Writing library : libebml v0.7.6 + libmatroska v0.8.0
Codecs Video : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Audio codecs : AC3
Audio_Language_List : Japanese
Text codecs : ASS
Text_Language_List : English
Date : UTC 2006-01-19 00:55:26

Video #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 0
ID : 1
UniqueID : 774563735
Title : MS IGLOO - 01 [H264]
Codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Width : 704
Height : 480
Aspect ratio : 1.467
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Language : jpn

Audio #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
StreamKindID : 0
ID : 2
UniqueID : 3760010908
Title : Japanese Audio [5.1 AC3]
Codec : A_AC3
Codec : AC3
Codec/Info : Dolby AC3
Language : ja
Language : Japanese

Text #0
Count : 170
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Text
StreamKindID : 0

[Sirber]

@killerhex

yes. did you try it?

[Sirber]

Final version is on it's way. We are currently finishing the needed automatic fitlering for handeled devices and making tests to be sure everything is working "nikel ;)".

Final package should be 20MB as advertized. I mighe remove avisynth, ffdshow and helix codecs and make them download "from the web". We would save aound 6MB.

[BoostAddict]

hmm having my own ffdshow and helix codecs won't mess things up will it?

i didnt know (i didnt read, my fault) realanime came with its own ffdshow and helix codecs

maybe that's why i see 2 ffdshow icons in my system tray
but that wouldn't effect my encodes in any way will it?

[Sirber]

No problem having your own helix and ffdshow. I bundle them to be sure you have them. New installer is 14MB. :D

[BoostAddict]

No problem having your own helix and ffdshow. I bundle them to be sure you have them. New installer is 14MB. :D


looking forward to it :D great work so far
absolutely love this program

[DnA]

can you post the "info" of your mpeg? It'S in the rightclick menu in the file list.

Hi again, here is the MPEG information. I have also several other examples if you need.
I hope this helps.

General
Count : 169
Kind of stream : General
Count of video strea : 1
Count of audio strea : 1
Count of text stream : 0
Count of chapter str : 0
Count of image strea : 0
Complete name : D:\TEMP\Video.mpg
Folder name : D:\TEMP
File name : Video.mpg
File extension : mpg
File size : 43038156
File size : 41.0 MiB
File size : 41 MiB
File size : 41 MiB
File size : 41.0 MiB
File size : 41.04 MiB
Format : MPEG1
Format : MPEG 1 multiplexer
Format/Extensions : M1S MPEG MPG MPE MPGX MPM
Overal BitRate : 1623070
Overal BitRate : 1623 KBps
PlayTime : 212132
PlayTime : 3mn 32s
PlayTime : 3mn 32s 132ms
PlayTime : 3mn 32s
PlayTime : 00:03:32.132
Codecs Video : MPEG Video 1
Audio codecs : MPEG Audio 1 layer 2

Video #0
Count : 35
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : MPV1
Codec : MPEG Video 1
Bit rate : 1280000
Bit rate : 1280 KBps
BitRate/Mode : CBR
Width : 352
Height : 240
Aspect ratio : 1.606
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970
Frame rate : 29.97
FrameCount : 6363
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.506
Delay : 0

Audio #0
Count : 34
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : MPA1/2
Codec : MPEG Audio 1 layer 2
Bit rate : 320000
Bit rate : 320 KBps
Channels : 2
Channels : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44100
Sampling rate : 44 KHz
Delay : 0
Video0 delay : 0

About M2V, you need to use DGIndex on it like every MPEG2 source.

Thanks. I think I found the way to encode them (using DGIndex) :)

[Eretria-chan]

All the components that are bundled with ra, where are they stored in the cvs? The output folder? Any other components that it uses that are not in there?
I simply wish to zip each of the components individually.

[Sirber]

@DnA

What was your settings for MPEG? Can I have the source?

@Eretria-chan

They are all on the SVN in output folder.

[Eretria-chan]

So the sub-folders in the output folder is all the components that ra needs?
No, that can't be right...
I see the bin folder contains a lot of components. I also see mplayer in there.
But I don't see ffdshow nor helix codecs. Were they removed from the cvs from some time ago?
I can't pick together each of the components. Are each component in the bin folder stand-alone or part of some application? Does an application consist of two or more of those files? Confusing!

[Sirber]

ffdshow, avisynth and helix codec are not on the SVN.
the only "component" avalible are producer and besweet. The rest is just DLLs and EXEs in bin/ and avs/

also, update your copy ;)

[Eretria-chan]

Are these exes and dlls significant? Do they belong to a specific app?
Zipping and uploading all these files will result in a lot of wasted space (hence a lot more for the end user to download). Therefore, I shall try to package them in the components they belong to.

Like the files in the avs directory are probably filters. So they basically belong to the main app?

[Sirber]

the DLLs are needed for filtering, you can zip them together. You can make a ZIP too of the EXEs from bin/

In any case the user need all those things :)

[Eretria-chan]

That's 5.58 mb at max 7zip compression >_<
This is getting to be a pain...
But there is a solution, yet! Upgrade! I shall experiment with that instead...

[DnA]

You can try with this video: http://www.pangolin.com/images/video/CLOCK_3.mpg

P.S. BTW I can still use AviSynth for source reading.

[Sirber]

You can try with this video: http://www.pangolin.com/images/video/CLOCK_3.mpg

P.S. BTW I can still use AviSynth for source reading.Better me to fix it. Using AVS will make the same problem. RealAnime use AVISynth to read MPEG :)

[Sirber]

You can find a preview of the guide here: http://www.detritus.qc.ca/#support

It's incomplete. Comments are welcome though :)

[DnA]

I use
mpegsource("D:\TMP\video.mpg")
but thus the audio is not found.

Otherwise I agree that the x264 + aacPlus v2 encoder from CT in MP4 container is the best video solution ;)

[Sirber]

mpegsource is better than directshowsource for MPEG?

[DnA]

With DirectShowSource I get this "Encoder error#57 (BeSweet)" message. Hmm...:confused:

[Sirber]

Does it work with moegsource? Maybe you get Error 57 coz the source is 32kHz. RealAnime is supposed to upmix it to 44kHz.

[DnA]

With mpegsource only the video is processed, no audio output. With DirectShowSource the status bar displays the error message and no output is written at all.

[Sirber]

When using RealAnime on it, in the temp folder, what are the specs of the produced .wav?

[DnA]

This is the information about the CLOCK_3.mpg file (no AviSynth script used, the MPEG file is dragged on RA). RealAnime creates nothing when I press the "Start" button. (no.wav file, no .mp4 file) RA gives only the error message in status bar.

And if I try to make a Preview (Settings->Video Preview) the application crashes ("Access violation" error message).
Another issue - the RealAnime drops the audio tracks of .AVI files. The output file is video only. :(

General
Count : 169
Kind of stream : General
Count of video strea : 1
Count of audio strea : 1
Count of text stream : 0
Count of chapter str : 0
Count of image strea : 0
Complete name : D:\TEMP\CLOCK_3.mpg
Folder name : D:\TEMP
File name : CLOCK_3.mpg
File extension : mpg
File size : 3786768
File size : 3.61 MiB
File size : 3698 KiB
File size : 3.6 MiB
File size : 3.61 MiB
File size : 3.611 MiB
Format : MPEG1
Format : MPEG 1 multiplexer
Format/Extensions : M1S MPEG MPG MPE MPGX MPM
Overal BitRate : 214967
Overal BitRate : 215 KBps
PlayTime : 140924
PlayTime : 2mn 20s
PlayTime : 2mn 20s 924ms
PlayTime : 2mn 20s
PlayTime : 00:02:20.924
Codecs Video : MPEG Video 1
Audio codecs : MPEG Audio 1 layer 2

Video #0
Count : 35
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : MPV1
Codec : MPEG Video 1
Bit rate : 161200
Bit rate : 161 KBps
BitRate/Mode : CBR
Width : 160
Height : 112
Aspect ratio : 1.429
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 29.970
Frame rate : 29.97
FrameCount : 4227
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.300
Delay : 0

Audio #0
Count : 34
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : MPA1/2
Codec : MPEG Audio 1 layer 2
Bit rate : 48000
Bit rate : 48 KBps
Channels : 1
Channels : 1 channel
Sampling rate : 44100
Sampling rate : 44 KHz
Delay : 0
Video0 delay : 0

I hope this helps.

[Sirber]

RealAnime currently can't handle mono streams from MPEG or other sources that goes in via AVS.

also, RealAnime can't "don't encode audio" from AVI. What are your settings for the AVI that has output video only?

[DnA]

Sorry, with AVI everything works fine, my mistake. I was confiused, because in Preview mplayer.exe displays "Audio: no sound".

[Sirber]

@RealAnime Devs

Could we put some efforts to finish it? It'd be nice to release it ASAP :)

What is missing or incomplete:
* Automatic filtering for handled profiles
* XML (Save/Load) for filtering
* Keep audio or sub track by it's number
* Guide
* Testing ;)

[killerhex]

i have downloaded some mkv with triple audios and was wondering if you can make an option to encode oly 2 audio tracks like [japanese+english]

[Sirber]

i have downloaded some mkv with triple audios and was wondering if you can make an option to encode oly 2 audio tracks like [japanese+english]You can with RealAnime 3.2, but it's impossible with 4.0. User Interface merged to be simpler and keep only 1 audio and 1 sub, or all of them. I'm sure you can just update x264.exe for 3.2 and encode well. No AAC+v2 though...

[killerhex]

will the new version encode aac to other format without decoding to wav the re-encoding

[Sirber]

will the new version encode aac to other format without decoding to wav the re-encodingNope. Besweet don't handle AAC as input so I have to go through wave. Also, there are no "new version", just a final version of the current one :).

[Sirber]

I updated the "AAC+ v2" encoder to winamp 5.2.
I will try also to handle mono source (they curerntly fails) for this codec.

[Sirber]

Naruto intro (23s) test:
640x480, 24FPS, anime content with low and high motion scenes

400kbps (inc 32kbps AAC PS) (http://www.mytempdir.com/460716)
350kbps (inc 24kbps AAC PS) (http://www.mytempdir.com/460722)

I'm gonna lower the bar for the defaults:
Video: 326kbps (RC3: 368kbps)
Audio: 24kbps (RC3: 32kbps)
Estimated file size: 60MB (RC3: 70MB)

[BoostAddict]

how come the two samples are so choppy?

[Sirber]

how come the two samples are so choppy?What do you mean?

[BoostAddict]

http://boostaddicts.com/snapshot.jpg

see how its rough around the edges
its not clear and crisp like the original
this is the 400kbs sample also

[killerhex]

is that encoding with x264

[Sirber]

It's normal. The encode is 23 seconds, so it doesn't have the same bitrate curve as a 24 minutes encode. If you make the full 24 minutes encode, the intro is lileky to get 2-3 times more bitrate than it got in this clip.

What about the audio?

[BoostAddict]

ah i see, no wonder some of my sample clips i make myself looks so iffy

the audio seemed fine

[Sirber]

ah i see, no wonder some of my sample clips i make myself looks so iffyiffy? :confused:

the audio seemed fineBoth 32kbps and 24kbps?

[BoostAddict]

iffy? :confused:

:o iffy means weird
referring to my sample clips, they didn't look good
but i guess it was because it was a 20 sec sample instead of a 24 minute encode

Both 32kbps and 24kbps?
yes both 32 and 24 sounded fine

[Sirber]

So, is it OK with everyone if I lower the bitrates?
I need everyone comments! :D

[ggab]

for audio yes, 24kps is fine

but, go on using 376kbps for video, we might get a higher quality :)

[Sirber]

for audio yes, 24kps is fine

but, go on using 376kbps for video, we might get a higher quality :)But filesize will not decrease :(

IMO x264 is pretty good to handle the bitrate drop, on 24 minutes content. If you only do 2 pass best keep 376kbps :)

[BoostAddict]

i still use 468 no matter what ;)
not much of a file size increase so i dont mind

[Sirber]

i still use 468 no matter what ;)
not much of a file size increase so i dont mind
468 + 32? Ewwwww 85MB ;)

[killerhex]

well im just goin to wait for the release

[BoostAddict]

85 is GOOD compared to 200+

[Sirber]

Since Damrod was supposed to do the automatic filtering for the handeled profiles (PSP, iPod and PPC) and I have no news about it, we'll release the 4.0 whitout it (only normal profil) and release a 4.1 later with it.

We are currently fixing bugs about track management, then I'm pretty confident we can release 4.0.

[killerhex]

jus add the profiles to the powerpack

[Sirber]

jus add the profiles to the powerpackThere will be no powerpack with 4.0. :)

[killerhex]

oh ok

[Sirber]

well, I made a poll about that and everyone want both merged.

[LAIN]

we have corrected few bug -track management/language/... and we are currently making few test for the final release (4.0) for the profile it will be delayed, because we want ppl to have access to the main feature of realanime (encoding x264) ... be prepare for download :D hehehe

will keep you informed... if there is any new bug, just post them here!!!

thanks every RealAnime users!!!


LAIN

[killerhex]

cant wait

[clone83]

we have been waiting for this for ages but i guess that is what we have to do sice we all want perfection... and if i know these guys, then it will be perfect :cool:

[DJ_Izumi]

Ya know... I'm testing this piece of software out on a lossless master copy of an anime music video I did so I can compare it to the XviD and DivX encodes... But asside from being an idiot proof GUI for h264 encoding, the whole 'Anime' part of this software confuses me.

I understand it's been built to accept easy transcoding of other downloaded animes, including dual audio things like OGM and MKVs but... Wouldn't you have to be an idiot to take something that was encoded from MPEG-2 on DVD, to XviD or DivX, and now to ANOTHER lossy codec just to save 50mb of disk space? It would be even worse for fansubs which are often TV Rip -> XviD/DivX -> XviD/DivX (AGIAN, this time encoding in subtitles into the video) -> h264 (via RealAnime)...

I can see the advantage in 'fresh' encodes, going from Mpeg-2 -> h264, where as you can get more bang for your megabyte of storage, allowing higher quality encodes but the main target of this software seems odd...

Also, does this software correctly support aspect ratio/anamorphic needs that some MKV's make use of?

[Eretria-chan]

I understand it's been built to accept easy transcoding of other downloaded animes, including dual audio things like OGM and MKVs but... Wouldn't you have to be an idiot to take something that was encoded from MPEG-2 on DVD, to XviD or DivX, and now to ANOTHER lossy codec just to save 50mb of disk space? It would be even worse for fansubs which are often TV Rip -> XviD/DivX -> XviD/DivX (AGIAN, this time encoding in subtitles into the video) -> h264 (via RealAnime)...
No... it makes sense! 50 mb in itself is nothing, but when you add it up (10 * 50 = 500). And a regular anime download (as far as I have seen), it about ~200-250 mb (lower and you have bad quality encodes). That saves a lot of space.

I can see the advantage in 'fresh' encodes, going from Mpeg-2 -> h264, where as you can get more bang for your megabyte of storage, allowing higher quality encodes but the main target of this software seems odd...

Also, does this software correctly support aspect ratio/anamorphic needs that some MKV's make use of?
I think the purpose of this application is acceptable (good?) quality at low bitrates (hence saving space).

I'm all for lesser filesize as long as the quality loss isn't too bad. I still use noise reduction, and can continue to if necessary. Not too much of a big deal to me...
I still have to listen to the audio, though.... last time I listened (with 32 kbps), it failed at some points.

[Sirber]

Also, does this software correctly support aspect ratio/anamorphic needs that some MKV's make use of?Not sure, since I didn't hit any of them. It depends which decoder you use, how the flag has been set, etc.

[DJ_Izumi]

No... it makes sense! 50 mb in itself is nothing, but when you add it up (10 * 50 = 500).

500mb is about 1/9th of the total storage of a single layer DVD disk... The storage savings doesn't seem practical, especially when one considders that lossy to lossly encoding will result in reduced quality over the original.

[Sirber]

500mb is about 1/9th of the total storage of a single layer DVD disk... The storage savings doesn't seem practical, especially when one considders that lossy to lossly encoding will result in reduced quality over the original.Quality is not that inferior, also I like to burn 2-3 series on the same DVDR. Money and space saving :)

[LAIN]

500mb is about 1/9th of the total storage of a single layer DVD disk... The storage savings doesn't seem practical, especially when one considders that lossy to lossly encoding will result in reduced quality over the original.


50 mb is a random number... normally the size of a encode is ~50% of the original size without a big lost of quality. A lot of time that the size in less than 50% with the same bitrate. I'v seen 10 gb series compressed in 3.8 without a great lost of quality. Yes single layer dvd are chea- ~40¢ each if you have a great deal, but it's not a reason to take twice dvd for a single series.

LAIN

[DJ_Izumi]

50 mb is a random number... normally the size of a encode is ~50% of the original size without a big lost of quality. A lot of time that the size in less than 50% with the same bitrate. I'v seen 10 gb series compressed in 3.8 without a great lost of quality.
...I think I'm going to throw up. :/

[Sirber]

...I think I'm going to throw up. :/If you don't like to recompress anime and save space, why are you polluting my thread?

[DJ_Izumi]

I was curious about x264 encoding GUIs. Obviously.

Anyway, any plans to include 'direct stream copy' features for audio encoding in case you don't want the audio touched?

[Sirber]

It's in advanced, dubbed "Encode audio". But, it doesn't work with AVI / AVS yet.

[LAIN]

I was curious about x264 encoding GUIs. Obviously.

Anyway, any plans to include 'direct stream copy' features for audio encoding in case you don't want the audio touched?


there is a option in adv tab of Settings that allow you to skip the audio encoding

[EDIT]

Sirber answered faster than me :(

[killerhex]

so what else are you guys doin for RA4 until release

[LAIN]

so what else are you guys doin for RA4 until release


for now we are curently testing the features that we have added and correcting the bugs that we encounter. There no more major develloppement to do, but I can't say when it will be released. It will be before ~10 days max, I'm moving in another province of Canada and wont be able to do some coding until i'm set up at the new location.

Currently the test that we are currently made have successfully been accomplished. We'll keep you informed about the situation!!!

LAIN

[Edit]

--> the only major dev that need to be done and that will be available with version 4.1, it's the profile selection.

[Eretria-chan]

500mb is about 1/9th of the total storage of a single layer DVD disk... The storage savings doesn't seem practical, especially when one considders that lossy to lossly encoding will result in reduced quality over the original.
You seem to an overly perfectionist about quality. For some, it really isn't as much quality drop to make a differenece. And I DO prefer to put a whole series or more onto a dvd and don't clutter up thousands of dvds all over my room.

[Sirber]

I did some listening and 24kbps is missing something... so new defaults will be:

video: 318kbps
audio: 32kbps
total: 350kbps.

so we're still saving bits :)

[killerhex]

:sly: :scared: :mad: :angry: i want to try the new version

[Sirber]

Still figthing a nasty bug. Missing FPS from MKV, so the encode is all wrong.

I wouldn't mind help though, in what ever way you can.

[killerhex]

i encode with the original FPS and i dont know how to help

[LAIN]

i encode with the original FPS and i dont know how to help


the problem that we can't extract fps from files... MediaInfo dont seem to like it (it's the second time that we faced this problem... but we are working on a solution to correct this bug)

LAIN

[Sirber]

i encode with the original FPS and i dont know how to helpI didn,t ment on that pecular issue, but in general. Did you find any bugs in RC3? Is there something we can improve? Can you help us with some coding? Did you encounter hard sources? Is there enough filter? Are the one in place effective? Are the defaults good enough? Bitrates, are they ok by default? Should MP4 be used instead of MKV by default?

All interresting stuff :)

[killerhex]

there was one problem when i encoded a video yesterday the video and audio were out of sync

i tried changing the the original fps 23.98 to 25 but it didnt work for me and i encoded the audio to aac+v2 32kbps and video 325

[Sirber]

there was one problem when i encoded a video yesterday the video and audio were out of syncHow many ms? can you post the Info of the source?

[killerhex]

General
Count : 169
Kind of stream : General
Count of video strea : 1
Count of audio strea : 2
Count of text stream : 1
Count of chapter str : 0
Count of image strea : 0
Complete name :
Folder name :
File name
File extension : ogm
File size : 236817604
File size : 226 MiB
File size : 226 MiB
File size : 226 MiB
File size : 226 MiB
File size : 225.8 MiB
Format : Ogg
Format : Ogg
Format/Url : http://tobias.everwicked.com/
Format/Extensions : OGG OGM
Overal BitRate : 1423396
Overal BitRate : 1423 KBps
PlayTime : 1331581
PlayTime : 22mn 11s
PlayTime : 22mn 11s 581ms
PlayTime : 22mn 11s
PlayTime : 00:22:11.581
Title :
Author :
Copyright :
Codecs Video : DivX 5
Audio codecs : Vorbis / Vorbis
Audio_Language_List : English / Japanese
Text codecs : UTF-8
Text_Language_List : English

Video #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : DX50
Codec : DivX 5
Codec/Info : (MPEG4) DivX Networks
Codec/Url : http://www.divx.com
Bit rate : 1216733
Bit rate : 1217 KBps
Width : 640
Height : 480
Aspect ratio : 1.333
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 23.976
Frame rate : 23.976
FrameCount : 31957
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.165

Audio #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 2
Kind of stream : Audio
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : Vorbis
Codec : Vorbis
Codec/Info : Vorbis
Codec/Url : http://www.vorbis.com
Bit rate : 96001
Bit rate : 96 KBps
Channels : 2
Channels : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48000
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Language : en
Language : English

Audio #1
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 2
Kind of stream : Audio
StreamKindID : 1
Codec : Vorbis
Codec : Vorbis
Codec/Info : Vorbis
Codec/Url : http://www.vorbis.com
Bit rate : 96001
Bit rate : 96 KBps
Channels : 2
Channels : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48000
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Language : ja
Language : Japanese

Text #0
Count : 170
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Text
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : UTF-8
Codec : UTF-8
Language : en
Language : English
Codec/Info : Vorbis
Codec/Url : http://www.vorbis.com

[Sirber]

Audio delay is noticable when using AAC PS (aac+ v2). You can remerge the output files using Matriska GUI and use the right delay (set in Adv. tab) for the next files to encode.

Beside the delay, is there any other problem with this source?

[killerhex]

nope no other problems

[Sirber]

Can you post the delay you find good for that source?

[killerhex]

well i few mins after i posted the problem i reencoded the file again and there was no problem i made a mistake in saying there was a delay what had happened i restarted my comp when it began muxing the mkv sry

and i want to test RA4

[Sirber]

When it work, not before. We want the next release to be "final", so no bug, no crap, and make everyone happy.

[ggab]

Sirber, did u test if newest winamp 5.2 release's aac_v2 encoder is working right with realanime? i mean, no Audio delay

thks

[Sirber]

Dunno about the delay. Since the delay vary for each source it's not easy to test.

[killerhex]

im bored

[Sirber]

RealAnime 4.0 should be released in 2 days if no major bugs comes out.

[killerhex]

cant wait that long lol

[Eretria-chan]

im bored
Now that's just pure spam. Stop pestering the thread with such comments and wait! If you can't, then go do something in the real life.
Sirber & co is working HARD for the sake of US - the users. Stop whining.

[clone83]

i agree and im pissed....(drinking lots of bourbon and cola that is....) :D

[Sirber]

Sirber & co is working HARD for the sake of US - the users. Stop whining.Hummm.... sake ;)

[BoostAddict]

i have a question about the psp/ipod profiles

i dont have one myself but plan on owning soon
do they play x264 with softsubs or will realanime hardcode the subs with the video?

[Sirber]

handeled can't playback softsubs. I'll have to hardsub them.

[BoostAddict]

handeled can't playback softsubs. I'll have to hardsub them.

good to hear :D looking forward to this

[Sirber]

Not for 4.0. Profiles will be for 4.1.

Also, we faced a major bug :(. MediaInfo is crashing on some MKV input. So, we'll release it now with another build of MediaInfo and use a regular version for next release.

I'm making the installers.

[Sirber]

4.0 is out.

What changed and what not... does it matter? It's troublesome to write changelogs :devil:

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/

[killerhex]

thanx

[clone83]

looks good but maybe a drop down menu for all the filters would be better as we cant customise the settings.... andthere is a new version of dgindex out aswell... good work guys... keep it up... :helpful:

[killerhex]

an before you release 4.1 can you add more resolutions

640x360
700x400

[Sirber]

@clone83

You can input AVS if you want more stuff

@killerhex

You can add them in the menu, but they will not be saved, only the selected one.

[clone83]

Problem...

Sirber, i have tried to encode with an avs script that i have createdmut im not will to post the script on here but i can pm it to you. but i can post the avs script that was created by realanime, AVISource("G:\dvd_ripping\AVS\realanime_test_avs.avs")
NiceFPS()
ConvertToYV12()


And this is the error log i got,
[2/26/2006 : 9:38:24 PM] : ***** Encoding Video to x264 File (x264) *****
[2/26/2006 : 9:38:24 PM] : "C:\Program Files\RealAnime 4\bin\x264.exe" --me dia --subme 1 --ref 0 --analyse "none" --weightb --b-pyramid --bime --direct spatial --bframes 3 --filter 1:1 --bitrate 318 --pass 1 --no-fast-pskip --no-psnr --progress --threads 2 -o "NUL:" "C:\Program Files\RealAnime 4\temp\0.avs"
[2/26/2006 : 9:38:24 PM] :
[2/26/2006 : 9:38:25 PM] : avis [error]: unsupported input format (DIB )
[2/26/2006 : 9:38:25 PM] : could not open input file 'C:\Program Files\RealAnime 4\temp\0.avs'
[2/26/2006 : 9:38:25 PM] :
[2/26/2006 : 9:38:25 PM] : ***** ERROR *****
[2/26/2006 : 9:38:25 PM] : Encoder error #-1 (x264)
[2/26/2006 : 9:38:25 PM] :

Im not sure what else i will need to assist u in this mut u know how to contact me if you do... Thx

[Sirber]

Your AVS is borked. Play the "0.avs" file and you will see.

Nothing I can do and not a bug of RealAnime.

[bratao]

You put a Script into another sropt using Avisource...

[Sirber]

AviSource takes as argument one or more file name in quotes, and reads in the file(s) using either the Video-for-Windows "AVIFile" interface, or AviSynth's built-in OpenDML code (taken from VirtualDub). This filter can read any file for which there's an AVIFile handler. This includes not only AVI files but also WAV files, AVS (AviSynth script) files, and VDR (VirtualDub frameserver) files. If you give multiples filenames as arguments, the clips will be spliced together with UnalignedSplice. The bool argument is optional and defaults to "true".
http://www.avisynth.org/AviSource

[wenjia]

Hi Sirber,

I'm a total newbie to world of encoding. Thanks very much for your easy-to-use software. I've been successful in converting some of my avi files to x264/aac-ps mkv files.

In trying to encode my vob or vcd mpg files, I ran them through dgindex as mentioned in this thread. Doing so gives me a d2v file and an mpa/ac3 file. Below are four observations I've made followed by my questions.

Observations:

1) I'm able to successfully drop the d2v file into realanime 4 and encode the video. But there is no audio.

2) When I try to drop in both the d2v file and the ac3 file, both are encoded successfuly to x264 and aac-ps, but are treated as separate jobs and hence not muxed together. I then manually mux the two into mkv using mkvtools.

3) However, when I get an mpa file instead of ac3 from dgindex, I can't encode that into aac-ps using realanime 4 because I'm not able to drag it into realanime 4. I suppose mpa audio is not supported. I can mux the encoded x264 video directly with the uncompressed mpa audio stream into mkv with a larger file size.

4) When running dgindex, I notice that several mpa files are generated with various delays even though there is just one audio stream. I suppose it could be because of poorly encoded dvds or vcds (like those "chrink" sounds). This results for example in an mpa file which is shorter by about 2 seconds than the 20 minute video.

Questions:
1) What is the correct way to use dgindex with realanime 4 so as to ensure that the audio (.ac3 or .mpa) is encoded to aac-ps and muxed automagically?

2) How can I ask realanime 4 to take into account the audio delays in the .mpa as generated by dgindex, so that audio encoding is done properly and in sync with the video?

I understand that some of these issues might not be problems with realanime 4 at all. I have tried to also play around with some of the other Gui-encoders, but realanime 4 is definitely the easiest partly because it comes with all the files I need, and is very simply organized. The only thing is that for some reason I just can't get the audio to be encoded along with the video.

Thanks for any help!

wenjia

[Sirber]

1) I'm able to successfully drop the d2v file into realanime 4 and encode the video. But there is no audio.D2V is video only.

2) When I try to drop in both the d2v file and the ac3 file, both are encoded successfuly to x264 and aac-ps, but are treated as separate jobs and hence not muxed together. I then manually mux the two into mkv using mkvtools.2 files is 2 jobs. RealAnime is not ment for DVD ripping, but to recode AVI and other 1-file jobs.

3) However, when I get an mpa file instead of ac3 from dgindex, I can't encode that into aac-ps using realanime 4 because I'm not able to drag it into realanime 4. I suppose mpa audio is not supported. I can mux the encoded x264 video directly with the uncompressed mpa audio stream into mkv with a larger file size. RealAnime wasn't set to allow MPA since I never faced them :) I'm gonna add it to next release. In the meantime you can try to rename it to MP3.

4) When running dgindex, I notice that several mpa files are generated with various delays even though there is just one audio stream. I suppose it could be because of poorly encoded dvds or vcds (like those "chrink" sounds). This results for example in an mpa file which is shorter by about 2 seconds than the 20 minute video.I ahve no idea :(

1) What is the correct way to use dgindex with realanime 4 so as to ensure that the audio (.ac3 or .mpa) is encoded to aac-ps and muxed automagically?There's none yet :)

2) How can I ask realanime 4 to take into account the audio delays in the .mpa as generated by dgindex, so that audio encoding is done properly and in sync with the video?You can set the delay in "Adv." tab or while merging with mkvmerge.

[Sirber]

I added a torrent link: http://www.detritus.qc.ca/bt/index.php
It's also on the main page. Currently I'm the only one seeding so speed might not be that good.

[killerhex]

i have an error for the new version

see the attachment sirber

how do i fix it

i checked the realanime folder in my program files and it doesnt have the producer and other realmedia things that it need to encode to rmvb

the installer didnt install them

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5291/untitled0yd.th.jpg (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled0yd.jpg)

[Sirber]

i have an error for the new version

see the attachment sirber

how do i fix itBest use http://www.imageshack.us/

[killerhex]

fixed the picture uploaded to imageshack

[Sirber]

Seems you do not have producer. Look in your realanime\bin\producer folder if it'S there.

[Sirber]

hum... seems it's not there. Bad installer. I'll make new ones.

[edit]

In the meantime you can get producer on helix website and install it in "RealAnime 4\bin\producer\". New installer (4.0.1) will be avalible at noon (GTM -5) on the website and torrent.

If you don't need RV10 you won't have to upgrade.

[Eretria-chan]

Hmm, it seems you borked this version. Trying to encode a file which worked with an older version, I got Encoder error #-1. Here is a log:

[2006-02-27 : 17:44:09] : Log File Creation
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:09] :
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:09] : ***** Converting OGM file (MKVMerge) *****
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:09] : C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\mkv\mkvmerge.exe -o "C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\temp\source.mkv" "F:\w00t\Mina videoklipp\Anime\Videos\Chrno Crusade\Chrno_Crusade_-_01_-_Pilot_-_Sister_Rosette_[Ani-Kraze][6A68220D].avi"
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:09] :
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:22] : mkvmerge v1.6.5 ('Watcher Of The Skies') built on Dec 7 2005 18:53:31
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:22] : 'F:\w00t\Mina videoklipp\Anime\Videos\Chrno Crusade\Chrno_Crusade_-_01_-_Pilot_-_Sister_Rosette_[Ani-Kraze][6A68220D].avi': Using the AVI demultiplexer. Opening file. This may take some time depending on the file's size.
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:22] : 'F:\w00t\Mina videoklipp\Anime\Videos\Chrno Crusade\Chrno_Crusade_-_01_-_Pilot_-_Sister_Rosette_[Ani-Kraze][6A68220D].avi' track 0: Using the MPEG-4 part 2 video output module.
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:22] : 'F:\w00t\Mina videoklipp\Anime\Videos\Chrno Crusade\Chrno_Crusade_-_01_-_Pilot_-_Sister_Rosette_[Ani-Kraze][6A68220D].avi' track 1: Using the MPEG audio output module.
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:22] : The file 'C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\temp\source.mkv' has been opened for writing.
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:22] : progress: 100%
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:22] :
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:22] : The cue entries (the index) are being written...
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:22] : The cue entries (the index) are being written...
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:22] : Muxing took 12 seconds.
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:23] :
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:23] : ***** Extracting MKV file (MKVExtract) *****
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:23] : C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\mkv\mkvextract.exe tracks "C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\temp\source.mkv" 2:"C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\temp\audio_0.mp3" 1:"C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\temp\video_0.avi"
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:23] :
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:37] : Extracting track 1 with the CodecID 'V_MS/VFW/FOURCC' to the file 'C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\temp\video_0.avi'.
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:37] : Extracting track 2 with the CodecID 'A_MPEG/L3' to the file 'C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\temp\audio_0.mp3'.
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:37] : progress: 100%
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:37] :
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:37] : ***** Encoding Audio to .AAC (BeSweet) *****
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:37] : "C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\besweet\BeSweet.exe" -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -azid( -s dplii -L -3db ) -core( -input "C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\temp\audio_0.mp3" -output "C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\temp\audio_enc_0.aac" ) -dimzon( -dllname WA_aacPlus.dll -cbr 48 -mode 4 -mpeg4 ) -ota( -g max )
[2006-02-27 : 17:44:37] :
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] :
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : [00:00:00:000] Initializing...
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : --------------------------
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : Using hip.dll v1.19 by Myers Carpenter <myers@users.sf.net>
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : Using Shibatch.dll v0.25 by Naoki Shibata & DSPguru (shibatch.sourceforge.net).
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : Using WA_aacPlus.dll v2.0 by Kurtnoise (kurtnoise@free.fr)
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : [00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : [00:00:00:000] | Input : C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\temp\audio_0.mp3
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : [00:00:00:000] | Output: C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\temp\audio_enc_0.aac
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : [00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: No
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : [00:00:00:000] | Overall Track Gain: 1.999dB
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : [00:00:00:000] +------ Shibatch -----
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : [00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : [00:00:00:000] | Dest. Sample-Rate: 44.1KHz
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : [00:00:00:000] | Attenuation : 0.0db
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : [00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : [00:07:45:000] <-- Transcoding Duration
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : [00:23:10:034] Finalizing...
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : [00:23:10:034] Conversion Completed !
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] :
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] :
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : Visit DSPguru's Homepage at :
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[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] :
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : ***** Encoding Video to x264 File (x264) *****
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] : "C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\bin\x264.exe" --me dia --subme 1 --ref 0 --analyse "none" --weightb --b-pyramid --bime --direct spatial --bframes 3 --filter 1:1 --bitrate 318 --pass 1 --no-fast-pskip --no-psnr --progress --threads 1 -o "NUL:" "C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\temp\1.avs"
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:22] :
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:25] : avis [error]: unsupported input format (DIB )
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:25] : could not open input file 'C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\temp\1.avs'
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:25] :
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:25] : ***** ERROR *****
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:25] : Encoder error #-1 (x264)
[2006-02-27 : 17:52:25] :

How do I get the video info?

[Sirber]

AVISynth error.

Play "C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\temp\1.avs" in a dshow player and tell me what's wrong.

[Eretria-chan]

Well, I don't know if I that filtering right :p That might just be the problem - as I shall try to not use those two together. Anyway, zoomplayer just dies with an error message (which I can't see), so anyway, I'll post the script file for you:

# RealAnime 4
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\aWarpSharp.dll")
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\Convolution3DYV12.dll")
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\Decomb521.dll")
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\IT.dll")
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\asharp.dll")
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\MSharpen.dll")
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\Msmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\VSFilter.dll")
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\NiceFPS.dll")
DirectShowSource("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\temp\video_0.avi", fps=23.9759998321533)
MSmooth(strength=2, threshold=15, highq=false)
Convolution3D(preset="animeLQ")
NiceFPS()
ConvertToYV12()

By the way, why only the small amount of resolution in the list? Concdering I have a 1920 x 1200 resolution, would it not be better if I resized it near that size to remove most artifacts? I remember seeing HD files compressed at a low bitrate that actually had good quality (although I never saw them - just read!).

[Sirber]

4.0.1 released:

* Added Helix Producer
* Added support for MPA

[Eretria-chan]

When only using Convulation3D, I still get encoder error #-1. Zoom Player plays the file fine. Here is the script:

# RealAnime 4
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\aWarpSharp.dll")
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\Convolution3DYV12.dll")
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\Decomb521.dll")
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\IT.dll")
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\asharp.dll")
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\MSharpen.dll")
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\Msmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\VSFilter.dll")
LoadPlugin ("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\avs\NiceFPS.dll")
DirectShowSource("C:\My Installed Apps\RealAnime 4\temp\video_0.avi", fps=23.9759998321533)
Convolution3D(preset="animeLQ")
NiceFPS()
ConvertToYV12()

More:
When trying to stop, it seems RA needs to wait for the processes to end, which makes it a long wait.
And I doubt that my SATA drive (F:) is slower than C:, but RA copies the entire source anyway.
Now trying without filter reduction.
Now it seems to be encoding fine >_<

[Sirber]

RealAnime 4 now merge AVI into MKV for better analysis.
If RealAnime can't kill the process, you have to do it manually or else it will go to the end of the encode.

[Eretria-chan]

Now that is exactly what I did. You have some things on your hand to check out, though, I should say. Good luck.

[Sirber]

MSmooth is faulty maybe. I'll check.

Also, IMO you filter too much :p

[Eretria-chan]

I don't know how to use it :p
Besides, all my sources are noisy. At least a little...

[Sirber]

MSmooth is an hardcore denoiser. Best use C3D (AnimeHQ).
Also, little noise doesn't hurt. I suggest you try whitout filtering first. Filtering remove details :)

[Eretria-chan]

Well, I can do not much else since RA fails when I use any filtering. I always use defiltering in ffdshow to remove that annoying noise. It is SO much better even if it removes some details.

[sillKotscha]

I added a torrent link: http://www.detritus.qc.ca/bt/index.php
It's also on the main page. Currently I'm the only one seeding so speed might not be that good.

i'm downloading it now and seed it for a while :)

[Sirber]

Well, I can do not much else since RA fails when I use any filtering. Every filter fails? Do you have AVISynth 2.56?
i'm downloading it now and seed it for a while :)Thanks!

[Eretria-chan]

Every filter fails? Do you have AVISynth 2.56?
MSmooth + AnimeLQ = Fails
AnimeLQ = Fails
No filters = OK!

I downloaded avisynth via the installation of RA. Yes, it works just fine because I was able to play the avisynth file that was created by RA (with AnimeLQ).

Haven't tried only MSmooth because now it is encoding! And x264 is slow, as we all know. Still on the second pass with 1:54 left.