RealAnime 4 - General Questions and Troubleshooting Thread [Archive] - Page 3

garbii

10th January 2006, 02:43

Well i guess there must be sth similiar ... C++ is quite a good language . However as I said I'm a poor programer that only knows the basics so I just don't know .

However As far as I'm not mistaken those libraries that I gave u link (or even mplayer and mencoder) have their sources . I remember that in C++ there was a command (function) to access other dll and run them as a function .

Also note that mencoder is a CLI and there are other programs that work as GUI for it (i'm talking here about linux guis for it) . So there must be some way for those Guis to run mencoder .

Eretria-chan

10th January 2006, 11:01

In Delphi 7 I use TDosCommand to launch producer, mencoder, etc and monitor it. I know when it's running, and I get exitCode at the end so I can know what happened. Anything similar for linux (C++)?
I suppose, that at least on windows, you would aquire the return code of the main thread of a program, since when that threads terminates, it is the return code of the program.

garbii: Indeed, there is a way to dynamically load dlls in C++. When dynamically loaded, you can aquire an address to any function and execute it.

garbii

10th January 2006, 15:55

Some links :
http://www.kdevelop.org >> I think that there are some tutorials about programinig in C under KDE envronment.

Sirber

10th January 2006, 16:49

Looks like you guys really want RealAnime under linux no? lol

Eretria-chan

10th January 2006, 18:08

I'd like to see RealAnime in C or C++. That way, I can change the source myself if I've got any complains ;)

Sirber

10th January 2006, 18:18

I think it would be simplier to use C# and mono, so it would run "same source" on both OS.

Also the framework has everything I need to manage external apps.

Eretria-chan

10th January 2006, 18:29

NO! *cries*
Not the framework...

Also...

NO! *cries*
Not C#...

vanger

10th January 2006, 18:51

I capture the animations (cartoons) from TV.
Video - MJPEG 768x576
Audio - PCM WAV 48000Hz 16bit Mono
Then I cut unnecessary scenes (comercials etc.) in VDubMod, compress audio in mp3 44100Hz 64kbps mono, crop black borders, apply some simple denoise filter and compress into XviD 512x384 1000kbps. The result is pretty good.
But after reading this forum I want to try x264 and AAC for using in the future if it shows good results.

The first problem in work with RealAnime is that it copies the video to his temp directory. This is uncomfortable, because the 40min video file is about 5Gb on disk and the copying requires additional time and disk space, which I usually haven't.
Is it possible to use the file through avs script without copying?

What bitrate should I use to get the result visually similar to my XviD settings?
I thought that x264 allows to get video in the same to XviD size but in bigger resolution. Am I right?

And what about compress mono input audio in AAC+ v2? It transforms to Parametric Stereo in any case?

Sirber

10th January 2006, 19:59

ish....

First you should get your source in Stereo or else it will be very troublesome later.

Source --> VDub (direct stream copy while removing stuff) --> RealAnime --> Resize 640x480

Use default settings for bitrate and such.

And what about compress mono input audio in AAC+ v2? It transforms to Parametric Stereo in any case?I never tryed mono source, and RealAnime is built for 2 channels.

vanger

10th January 2006, 20:16

Is the copying file by RealAnime to its temp directory is so necessary?

Sirber

10th January 2006, 20:50

It was usefull when my files were on LAN drives. 10% encoding speed :)

In next release, I will copy it only if the file is under 400MB.

DeathTheSheep

10th January 2006, 20:59

Copy it only if the file is under 400MB.
Ah, that's a good plan indeed. :D

vanger

11th January 2006, 06:24

It was usefull when my files were on LAN drives. 10% encoding speed :)
Copying of 5Gb file from one folder to another on the same partition is too slow for me.

In next release, I will copy it only if the file is under 400MB.
That's would be cool! :)

And one another qustion:
Why are you using such settings (368kbps for video for example)? Could you explain? Why not 400 or 300?
Are there some tests of quality maybe?

LAIN

11th January 2006, 07:00

And one another qustion:
Why are you using such settings (368kbps for video for example)? Could you explain? Why not 400 or 300?
Are there some tests of quality maybe?

368 is use to be able to have 400kbps at the end

video(368) + audio(32) = 400kbps
there is also video(436) + audio (64) = 500 kbps

LAIN

killerhex

11th January 2006, 10:30

i use the 368vid+32aud and the quality is great

vanger

11th January 2006, 11:35

i use the 368vid+32aud and the quality is great
Can you post screenshots of your input and output videos?

killerhex

11th January 2006, 12:07

hol on give me a min

screenshots encoded with RV10 368kbps[video]+64kbps[audio]

Sirber

11th January 2006, 13:24

x264 is better than rv10 at 368kbps ;)

Eretria-chan

11th January 2006, 19:09

It was usefull when my files were on LAN drives. 10% encoding speed :)

In next release, I will copy it only if the file is under 400MB.
Why copy the file at all, unless the source drive is slower than the temp drive, and it is slow enough to harm speed?

Sirber

11th January 2006, 19:13

ok ok then :devil:

I will compare RealAnime's drive with source drive and copy if they differ (if bellow 400MB).

Happy? :D

Eretria-chan

11th January 2006, 19:21

Now THAT sounds nice =)

ggab

12th January 2006, 00:15

yes! very nice :)

thanks, and we will be waiting for next release ;)

Sirber

12th January 2006, 00:31

hey for the resize filters in realanime can you add more resolution for the final

this are resolutions i used b4 with ermp i was wondering if you can add them to the final version of RA4

640x360
700x400
704x396Added.

[edit]

If I don't any more request or juicy bug report I will release 4.0 :devil:

Sirber

12th January 2006, 00:42

I made the patch for the copy in temp folder:
// Copy to temp
AssignFile(myFile, setting.source);
FileMode := 0; {Set file access to read only }
Reset(myFile);
bCopy := false;
if (FileSize(myFile) < 400000) then
if (ExtractFileDrive(setting.source) <> ExtractFileDrive(setting.dir_temp)) then
bCopy := true; // Fain enough
CloseFile(myFile);

if (bCopy) then
begin
oFileCopy := TFileCopy.Create(nil);
oFileCopy.FileSource := setting.source;
setting.source_copy := setting.dir_temp + 'source.avi';
oFileCopy.FileDestination := setting.source_copy;
oFileCopy.CopyFile;
oFileCopy.Free;
end
else
setting.source_copy := setting.source;

AnalyzeAVI();

LAIN

12th January 2006, 02:40

i'v found a bug in the dev source.

when encoding with x264 + aac v2 and merging in mkv file it merge source and encoded file...

i'll take a look after finishing few test.

LAIN

Sirber

12th January 2006, 03:11

:logfile: :script: :thanks:

vanger

12th January 2006, 06:05

Happy? :D
Yes! :D

How can I add my custom filter to avisynth script?
Only write myself
LoadPlugin ("plugin.dll")
in the edit window of Avisynth tab?
Or you can make, for example, that the program could load all plugins in "RealAnime 4\avs" directory? Or you can make a dialog for choosing necessary plugins?

killerhex

12th January 2006, 12:00

can you add 5.1 encoding support to the RA 4final

CLS

12th January 2006, 13:27

Sorry...but is there a guide for your 'little preacious' RealAnime LE? or did a missed something in this threat. *I used search...*

I want to test how x264 does compared to xvid, and your apps seems perfect, because it supports both. :P But I allready have problems with the input of the files. What kind of files are supported for input? and where can I configure x264?

*sorry but :stupid: .....thanks* :rolleyes:

Sirber

12th January 2006, 13:36

can you add 5.1 encoding support to the RA 4final5.1 is planned for 4.1. It will require some code change that can be unstable.
Sorry...but is there a guide for your 'little preacious' RealAnime LE? or did a missed something in this threat. *I used search...*The guide for sexy RealAnime 4 will be released at the same time as final 4.0. It will be in HTML and avalible online on my sexy website :)

Yod4z

12th January 2006, 14:10

it's possible to define an option to do something (shutdown, do nothing...) when the total batch is done or when the first batch is done or after all the batch.
I like to have an new option, like shutdown, "execute an command line". For exemple i want realanime to upload the file when compression is done to my FTP, if there an option to execute an command line i can use my FTP client in commd line mode to upload the file.

Sirber

12th January 2006, 14:17

it's possible to define an option to do something (shutdown, do nothing...) when the total batch is done or when the first batch is done or after all the batch.When no file is left the "After encoding" action will be executed.
I like to have an new option, like shutdown, "execute an command line". For exemple i want realanime to upload the file when compression is done to my FTP, if there an option to execute an command line i can use my FTP client in commd line mode to upload the file.hum... yeah it can be done easy. Just don't use RealAnime as a trojan horse :devil:

ggab

13th January 2006, 00:21

Sirber

13th January 2006, 00:35

Can you explain more? With a step by step "how you want it"?

Yod4z

13th January 2006, 01:17

hum... yeah it can be done easy. Just don't use RealAnime as a trojan horse

:D is for that is for my job to no lose of time ;). Big thanks :D

vanger

13th January 2006, 05:38

How can I add my custom filter to avisynth script?
Only write myself
LoadPlugin ("plugin.dll")
in the edit window of Avisynth tab?
Or you can make, for example, that the program could load all plugins in "RealAnime 4\avs" directory? Or you can make a dialog for choosing necessary plugins?

My message was invisible? :confused:

Sirber

13th January 2006, 13:20

In the filtering tab just add your things:

LoadPlugin ("plugin.dll")
MyFunction()

killerhex

13th January 2006, 18:05

can you wmv input i want to encode some wmv files they are about 160mb

Sirber

13th January 2006, 18:22

BeSweet is not compatible with WMA, nor my extracting tools.

But, the source code is there if you want to implement it!

svn://svn.detritus.qc.ca/detritusRealAnimeLE

killerhex

13th January 2006, 20:25

then can you add AC3 output

Sirber

13th January 2006, 20:48

Why? Isn't AC3 against the laws of "small filesize" and "low bitrate"?

killerhex

13th January 2006, 20:52

oh yeah sry i never heard of 64kbps ac3 audio

in the mp3 output on the prog does 64kbps mp3 sound good

Sirber

13th January 2006, 20:58

IIRC 64kbps MP3 is 22kHz...

but if you really want AC3 it will start at 192kbps up to 768 :)

CLS

14th January 2006, 00:27

The guide for sexy RealAnime 4 will be released at the same time as final 4.0. It will be in HTML and avalible online on my sexy website :)

Thanks....I will look at your sexy website for sure! :thanks: *H.N.Y.*

killerhex

14th January 2006, 15:26

i was wondering which sharpen is better

MSsharpen
aWarpSharp
or aSharp

which is better resize

bicubi
lanczos3 or 4
bilinear or point

which of this are good to resize to 320x240 and 512x384

Sirber

14th January 2006, 17:41

lanczos3 or 4 > bicubic > bilinear > point in the sharpness area

about sharpers, they all act differently.
mSharpen: http://neuron2.net/msharpen/msharpen.html
aWarpSharp sharpen the whole frame
aSharp try to detect edge and sharp them whitout sharpening the blocks

Your best options is to test them all and use the one you like most ;)

spinstate

14th January 2006, 23:36

hmm... so aSharp is similiar to UnSharp mask sharpening?

Sirber

15th January 2006, 00:31

I dunno... sorry :(

ggab

15th January 2006, 06:17

i guess i have comment this one...

- option to BYPASS (jump) the audio encoding process (only .MKV video file)
(to gain speed in several video quality tests, avoiding re-encoding and reduce disk space when the KEEP original audio source file is cheked)

bye
just

for example Naruto Episode 100.avi ("standard" xvid & mp3)

i wanna have an option in RA to disable the audio output.
Resulting in a MKV file (the container) with only a video track (the video is encoded in x264) and no audio at all :)

note: Thus, when u play the encoded file, u will not heard anything :P Just the video.

killerhex

15th January 2006, 13:15

hey siber can you add this reoslution 592x336 wide into the final version

Sirber

15th January 2006, 16:31

hey siber can you add this reoslution 592x336 wide into the final versionOk.

just

for example Naruto Episode 100.avi ("standard" xvid & mp3)

i wanna have an option in RA to disable the audio output.
Resulting in a MKV file (the container) with only a video track (the video is encoded in x264) and no audio at all :)

note: Thus, when u play the encoded file, u will not heard anything :P Just the video.ok. I could add a codec "None" mouhahahahhaa

Sirber

15th January 2006, 18:28

@ggab

I "rethinked" about it and I'm not sure it's a good idea to "bulk" RealAnime with that, since it's not a mainstream feature. If you really don't want audio you can make a .bat that runs mkvmerge that keeps only the video or use vdub.

killerhex

15th January 2006, 18:49

or you could just mux the video into a new mkv without the audio the encode

Sirber

15th January 2006, 18:55

by "you could" means you? Coz nothing stop you from doing it.

Sirber

16th January 2006, 00:11

MP3 bitrates are wrong in RealAnime. Corrected in next release.

ggab

16th January 2006, 00:27

well, i guess that the option "keep original audio source" feature will help me.

in any casse, with mkvmerge i can add others audio tracks :P

edit: will rc3 be out this week, or u wanna release the final version when it is ready?

thkks

Sirber

16th January 2006, 01:15

no RC3. It goes directly to final. I still need to finish the guide and I've got my hands on a special x264 build which kick ass in very very low bitrate. I need to test it if it's better than Shark's build at 368kbps. If not, I will use 2 build, one for normal encodes and one for "Low Complexity".

Sirber

16th January 2006, 01:49

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9967/dtss6pg.png (http://imageshack.us)

TheDeadSheep = blue, AVG: 20,7414
Sharktooth = redish, AVG: 20,7371

killerhex

16th January 2006, 04:06

hurry up and release it

Sirber

16th January 2006, 04:22

:devil:

Never! I'm gonna keep it for myself... sweet realanime... my precious... ;)

DeathTheSheep

16th January 2006, 04:24

Who's TheDeadSheep??
Wass goin' on here??

Sirber

16th January 2006, 04:25

Just added your x264 build for "Low complexity mode". Nothing to see, move along ;)

DeathTheSheep

16th January 2006, 04:25

S--sounds like a plan...

Sirber

16th January 2006, 04:26

Sounded like a plan. It's all over now.

killerhex

16th January 2006, 14:45

RElease the final version

Sirber

16th January 2006, 18:18

When it's done. What's the goal of releasing something unfinished?

spinstate

16th January 2006, 19:02

Hey Sirber what to do I need to compile the SVN of REAL4? Will it compile with mingw-gcc?

Revgen

16th January 2006, 19:04

When it's done. What's the goal of releasing something unfinished?

So we can complain to you about how bad it is.:D

Sirber

16th January 2006, 19:11

So we can complain to you about how bad it is.:DThanks for the kind words.
Hey Sirber what to do I need to compile the SVN of REAL4? Will it compile with mingw-gcc?Delphi 7 VCL :)

XH42

18th January 2006, 06:01

Hm.. I encoded the video that i had problem on while converting it to rmvb. Now i put the avi into the mkv container and converted it to x264 368kbps. The quality is exceptable, but... my media player turned grey while playing the last 1/5 of the movie. There was music but no animation.I tried to reopen the file, same thing occured. really pissed me off.

killerhex

18th January 2006, 06:11

mine is not converting an avi[xvid+mp3] into rmvb

^_^x

18th January 2006, 10:11

hey sirber, would you like to add volume level settings, it'll be nice for Movie with bad audio.

Sirber

18th January 2006, 12:57

@XH42 and killerhex

Post the Info of your source (right click on it in RA4, select "Info")

@^_^x

RealAnime normalize the audio to it's max volume.

killerhex

18th January 2006, 16:01

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Sirber

18th January 2006, 16:22

@killerhex

Can you explain more why "It's not working"? I encoded similar source and it worked.

Also, I suggest you have a read here: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html

killerhex

18th January 2006, 16:30

ffdshow audio decoder do i need to enable anything in there

spinstate

18th January 2006, 16:35

Sirber, in regards to bug reporting, any plans of implementing a log file for Realanime....for example:- It would contain text output by any CLI with console output (x264, besweet etc...) ;)

Sirber

18th January 2006, 16:57

@killerhex

AAC --> libfaad2, it's in the first post, but it's not needed for RMVB

@spinstate

It's in the todo but not for 4.0.

killerhex

18th January 2006, 17:02

can you add the real audio encoder

Sirber

18th January 2006, 17:08

It's there. "AAC+" it's name.

spinstate

18th January 2006, 20:16

Is there a way to make RA4 use AVISource() instead of DirectShowSource() ?

Sirber

18th January 2006, 20:34

uncheck "Use Directshow" in filtering.

spinstate

18th January 2006, 20:52

uncheck "Use Directshow" in filtering.

So that's what it was for.. :rolleyes:

Sorry to bother you ^^;; but I have some questions regarding x264 settings for anime encoding of which you very experienced.

1. Do you notice much difference in quality between "umh" & "hex" ME?

2. 2-pass Vs 3-pass - Which do you recommend ;)

Sirber

18th January 2006, 21:18

1: I never tryed hex :)

2: 3 pass if you have the time to run it. Q is higher at 368kbps, less blocks and more stable backgrounds.

XH42

19th January 2006, 01:02

This was basically the same as last time I posted except it's in a mkv container. The subtile worked fine, but the movie turned grey when it was at around 1:30:39 and all the way to the end, audio appears to have that delay you talked about due to the aac+v2.

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Audio_Language_List : Japanese
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Sirber

19th January 2006, 01:05

@XH42

I'd need the file to test. None of my files turned gray :confused:

Sirber

19th January 2006, 02:31

MP4 output seems broken. I got no file in my output folder.

killerhex

19th January 2006, 02:47

it will convert the audio bit not the video im converting to RV10+AAC+v2

is not converting this file

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Sirber

19th January 2006, 02:49

in RMVB or MKV? RMVB doesn't support AAC+v2, only AAC+.

What does realanime say? Error -1?

I need more infos!!!!!!!!!

killerhex

19th January 2006, 09:56

output format is mkv container[rmvb+aac+v2]

Sirber

19th January 2006, 12:56

What does realanime say? Error -1?
More infos is still needed... ;)

run the AVS in the temp folder in MPC.
Did you use any filtering? What's your complete settings, how can I reproduce?

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html

killerhex

19th January 2006, 14:01

well i turned off directshow

Sirber

19th January 2006, 14:05

and you have no VFW codec to decode xvid? HA!

well, producer should have encoded the AVISynth error.

killerhex

19th January 2006, 14:25

how should my ffdshow video decoder settings should be

and vfw

Sirber

19th January 2006, 15:21

you have to launch "ffdshow vfw" and set the codecs correctly.

killerhex

19th January 2006, 15:29

i launched the vfw what do i do now you should add a restore to original settings for the tools

Sirber

19th January 2006, 15:55

go in "Decoder" and "Codec". Add libavcodec for divxs and xvid.

The tools are external and out of my control.

killerhex

19th January 2006, 16:48

its wont the encode the audio to aac+ its just encodes it to wave then goes to idle without encoding the audio to aac+ and the video to rv10

what about ffdshow audio decoder

Sirber

19th January 2006, 17:18

Is producer.exe running?

about ffdshow audio, I've told you already in a post above.

killerhex

19th January 2006, 17:46

no the producer for rv10 wont run

Sirber

19th January 2006, 18:10

it's not in the task list?
did besweet run 2 time?

killerhex

19th January 2006, 18:27

besweet runs when encoding the audio but when i try encodeing to aac+ it just encodes the audio to wave without enc to aac+ did i mention the video is not being encoded either

Sirber

19th January 2006, 18:53

is there a "(retry)" in besweet logs, in the status bar of RealAnime while besweet encode?

killerhex

19th January 2006, 19:31

ok now is encoding the audio to aac but not the video damn

Sirber

19th January 2006, 19:44

what does the bottom of the window (realanime) say?

I cannot help you if you don't help me :p

killerhex

19th January 2006, 20:15

after finishing encoding the audio it says idle

Sirber

19th January 2006, 20:20

crap. "idle" is a RC2 bug, so it's hiding the bug. I cannot give you a new build (exe) yet since I have too much bugs in it, you'll have to wait until the next release.

killerhex

19th January 2006, 20:23

nooooooo what settings do i have to have on belight for aac+ b/c i changed the settings and forgot the original

Sirber

19th January 2006, 20:25

you can revert to original (default) by closing realanime and deleting it's XML file. AAC+ (and v2) default is 32kbps IIRC.

killerhex

19th January 2006, 23:13

ok this is weird when i put 300kbps on the video bitrate output its encodes normal but when i put 368 it wont encode

Sirber

20th January 2006, 00:46

are you sure it's "368" not "368 " or something else?

post "anime.rpjf" from temp folder here

killerhex

20th January 2006, 01:01

im encoding to x264 now 1st pass 50.8% done

Sirber

20th January 2006, 03:34

x264 and aac+ v2 are the most tested codecs. I will run a batch of tests with RV this weekend.

killerhex

20th January 2006, 05:08

i encoded a avi to mkv[rv10+ aac+2] and its great the encode quality its great but i would like to see other vid outputs also ----//how do i make RA4 encode faster but with good quality with the x264?

JarrettH

20th January 2006, 06:27

Yod4z

20th January 2006, 10:54

after finishing encoding the audio it says idle
same probleme here, i have the video in mkv format endoded with x264 but with no sound and an audio.aac that is read correctly on foobar. I think is a probleme of muxing into mkv

Sirber

20th January 2006, 13:02

I think I avoided this thread for weeks because it was called RealAnime, but if this is something like MeGUI I'll check it out.

Really...

Real= memories of realplayer
Anime= something I will never ever ever encode

Can you see why I didn't click? LOL :DWhat about the "(x264, AAC+ v2, MKV)" ? Also, if you recode DVD you are better off with StaxRip or meGUI :)

i encoded a avi to mkv[rv10+ aac+2] and its great the encode quality its great but i would like to see other vid outputs also ----//how do i make RA4 encode faster but with good quality with the x264?How can I suggest settings if I have no clue what setting you just used? I'm not in your head ;)

killerhex

20th January 2006, 14:55

im using RV10 300kbps AAC+v2 64kbps mkv container quality High Rv10 DropDupe b-frames 3 no video filtering

killerhex

20th January 2006, 16:10

i try encoding with the snow codec but it only produces junk data

Sirber

20th January 2006, 18:45

snow is more experimental than x264. it's not ment for daily use but for testing.

about x264, try the defaults but with 2 pass.

killerhex

20th January 2006, 19:54

for the final version can on RA4 the ability to recognize the audio language in dual audio anime releases

Sirber

20th January 2006, 19:58

it does already, if the source know it. if the source doesn't say which language it is, I think RA4 takes the first stream.

killerhex

20th January 2006, 23:14

it wont encode the video in this file the audio yes but not the video

General
Count : 169
Kind of stream : General
Count of video strea : 1
Count of audio strea : 1
Count of text stream : 2
Count of chapter str : 0
Count of image strea : 0
Complete name : zx.starship.operators.01.h264.mkv
Folder name : Starship Operators
File name : zx.starship.operators.01.h264.mkv
File extension : mkv
File size : 356130537
File size : 340 MiB
File size : 340 MiB
File size : 340 MiB
File size : 340 MiB
File size : 339.6 MiB
Format : Matroska
Format : Matroska
Format/Url : http://www.matroska.org
Format/Extensions : MKV MKA MKS
Overal BitRate : 1889901
Overal BitRate : 1890 KBps
PlayTime : 1507509.000
PlayTime : 25mn 7s
PlayTime : 25mn 7s 509ms
PlayTime : 25mn 7s
PlayTime : 00:25:07.509
Writing application : mkvmerge v1.4.2 ('Jimi Thing') built on Apr 16 2005 13:58:15
Writing library : libebml v0.7.4 + libmatroska v0.7.6
Codecs Video : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Audio codecs : Vorbis
Audio_Language_List : Japanese
Text codecs : SSA / UTF-8
Text_Language_List : English / English
Date : UTC 2005-05-31 06:27:24

Video #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 0
ID : 1
UniqueID : 2147248496
Title : Starship Operators 01: Count Down
Codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Width : 704
Height : 480
Aspect ratio : 1.467
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Language : und

Audio #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
StreamKindID : 0
ID : 2
UniqueID : 2223776018
Title : 2.0 Ogg Vorbis
Codec : A_VORBIS
Codec : Vorbis
Codec/Info : Vorbis
Codec/Url : http://www.vorbis.com
Language : ja
Language : Japanese

Text #0
Count : 170
Count of stream of t : 2
Kind of stream : Text
StreamKindID : 0
ID : 3
UniqueID : 1933322066
Title : SSA
Codec : S_TEXT/SSA
Codec : SSA
Language : en
Language : English
Codec/Info : Vorbis
Codec/Url : http://www.vorbis.com

Text #1
Count : 170
Count of stream of t : 2
Kind of stream : Text
StreamKindID : 1
ID : 4
UniqueID : 1735696158
Title : SRT
Codec : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec : UTF-8
Language : en
Language : English

im using RV10 300kbps AAC+v2 64kbps mkv container quality High Rv10 DropDupe b-frames 3 no video filtering

some advice please

Sirber

20th January 2006, 23:53

I need to get you a new build, but in the mean time you should look for "producer.log". It should be written in it why it failed.

killerhex

21st January 2006, 00:17

where do i find the log

Sirber

21st January 2006, 00:27

should be in temp dir, but could be anywhere. RV10 has not been tested entirely (same for all PowerPack features).

killerhex

21st January 2006, 00:38

can you add a Mpeg4/iso/avc encoder

Multimon

21st January 2006, 00:54

MPEG(Motion Picture Experts Group)4 is a collection of standards including, but not limited to, the so-called ASP and AVC video standards.
x264 is an AVC encoder.
Xvid is an ASP encoder.
Both are very good. No need for more AVC encoders.

ISO = International Organization for Standardization
You want to encode a group of people?!? ^^*

You might want to look up some information before you post, it would save Sirber some time he could use better to work for the final release of RA4 ;-)

btw: Thx for the great app! ^^

Sirber

21st January 2006, 00:57

:goodpost:

can you add a Mpeg4/iso/avc encoder
like Multimon said, there is already and it's the main codec

You might want to look up some information before you post, it would save Sirber some time he could use better to work for the final release of RA4 ;-)Or use that time for some sake :D

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2470/img13958cm.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img13958cm.jpg)

killerhex

21st January 2006, 05:00

when i choose the x264 codec for encode below the bitrate box there the filtering option what number do i choose -1 0 +1 or other which one is better

Sirber

21st January 2006, 05:09

I chose +1 as default, IMO it gives better results on anime.

Try and see ;)

Multimon

21st January 2006, 11:22

Or use that time for some sake :D

Sake is good, RA is better ;)

I hope you don't mind me abusing your thread^^

killerhex

21st January 2006, 15:21

man encoding to x264 on my comp is slow

Sirber

21st January 2006, 15:28

@Multimon

No problem :)

@killerhex

What's your PC? Which settings did you use for x264?

killerhex

21st January 2006, 17:55

i use for encoding to x264 300kbps aac+v2 64kbps my comp 1.00 ghz 256mb ram

rushin_911

21st January 2006, 18:04

i use for encoding to x264 300kbps aac+v2 64kbps my comp 1.00 ghz 256mb ram
well encoding might be slow with these specs (since AVC technology is very complex) but the results are really worht it :)

Sirber

21st January 2006, 18:30

i use for encoding to x264 300kbps aac+v2 64kbps my comp 1.00 ghz 256mb ramwell... on my AMD64 3000+ I find x264 slow too :(
Best upgrade your PC :)

killerhex

21st January 2006, 18:30

eta is 10 hrs to finish i wouldnt mind waiting to encode for 2hrs but 10 thats too much

spinstate

21st January 2006, 18:39

Try using the "Medium" quality setting instead of "High" quality, it will be faster..
i use for encoding to x264 300kbps aac+v2 64kbps my comp 1.00 ghz 256mb ram
Why 300? it is a bit low I think, the default of 368 gives good quality for size..

killerhex

21st January 2006, 19:04

i encoded a 3min video sample with 300kbps and the quality still amazing man if the encoding was a bit faster

Sirber

21st January 2006, 20:16

eta is 10 hrs to finish i wouldnt mind waiting to encode for 2hrs but 10 thats too muchYour computer is outdated for the new codecs. 1Ghz is not enough for anything new. Using lower quality settings will encode faster but Q will be definitly lower.

Danisan

22nd January 2006, 20:21

RealAnime and x264 is the reason why I updated to dual core goodness. :D

Would it be possible to set the number of threads to use with x264 in RealAnime? It would be great for the times I feel an urge to play a game while encoding.

Sirber

22nd January 2006, 20:23

RealAnime set it automaticly in the number of CPU you have. I could add an option in the Adv settings but it would be used only on the next file to encode.

Since RealAnime is in IDLE mode by default, game will have priority on the encode. Using task manager, you can set x264 to only one of your core and play on the second one.

Danisan

22nd January 2006, 21:02

Yes...I could do it that way. Good point.

LAIN

23rd January 2006, 00:36

I'd like to know if there is ppl that use other os than window XP and wine ???

thankx

[edit]
there is someone that i know that use windows 2k and have problem to encode, besweet take up to 5% cpu and take around 2h to encode a audio file.

LAIN

Sirber

23rd January 2006, 02:38

HT again?

LAIN

23rd January 2006, 05:34

HT again?

no, the computer used is neather dual core or intel HT, it's a athlon xp 2600+, everything else is normal

Yod4z

23rd January 2006, 10:37

Sirber

23rd January 2006, 13:48

The "issue" is related to the use of Sleep() to prevent realanime from using too much CPU to monitor the encoder. It work fine on most computers.

@Lain

Your friend should get the source and try different Sleep([ms]) to which best match his system.

nmatos

23rd January 2006, 13:59

Someone knows why my "n" tryes to rip always stop on this?

E:\dvd\realanime\bin\producer\producer.exe-j "E:\dvd\realanime\temp\anime.rpfj" -lc ewid doesn't exist?

But the file "anime.rjpf" is there?

Thanks

Sirber

23rd January 2006, 14:53

E:\dvd\realanime\bin\producer\producer.exe-j "E:\dvd\realanime\temp\anime.rpfj" -lc ewid

Gonna check that lack of space.

[edit]
// Producer
sCmd := ExtractFilePath(Application.ExeName) + 'bin\producer\producer.exe ';
sCmd := sCmd + '-j "' + setting.dir_temp + '\anime.rpjf" -lc ewid';The space is there :confused:

LAIN

23rd January 2006, 15:29

yes, me i use Win2k on Athlon 2500+ 512Mo Ram and i have no problemes with RA 4.0. 2h for how long file?

@Yod4z

thank you, probably the one that use realanime have a problem with is pc (hardware) or a configuration in it. it was newly installed and the problem is still there.

garbii

23rd January 2006, 20:43

I'd like to know if there is ppl that use other os than window XP and wine ???
LAIN

WINE is not an OS ...

............

BTW : Finally I have some free time today and will try running real anime with the newes wine 0.9.6

Sirber

23rd January 2006, 22:16

WINE is not an OS ...Nope, WINE is not a Windows Emulator ;)

garbii

23rd January 2006, 22:53

Hehe ...

It works ... encoding starts. However only audio :) ... Producer and x256 crashes....

Well I'll make a bit trying with diffrent configs.

Sirber

23rd January 2006, 23:25

Do you have ffdshow and avisynth? And please use x264 ;)

garbii

24th January 2006, 00:26

Heh sorry ... a typo :)

Yes I have ffdshow and avisynth... the problem was with the lack of the file called
mfc42.dll in wine emulated directory "system32" heh :)

However with this file now the encoding (in rmvb10) is succesfull, and it says that it's finished, but no encoded file appears ... yep I tried to change the output directory to another one. x264 does not finish.

Well I try some more things (and read wine logs), I'll post when I get this working :P

Sirber

24th January 2006, 00:47

RV10 in RMVB?

Sirber

24th January 2006, 02:47

I'm currently looking in Java development for the next release of RealAnime, or a sidekick for Linux encoding using mencoder and 3gp reference codec. I'm not sure I can port all current features of realanime to java, since it depend a lot on external software like besweet, winamp, nero, mediainfo and avisynth.

ggab

24th January 2006, 03:41

I'm currently looking in Java development for the next release of RealAnime
RA 4.1 and newer, no?

Sirber

24th January 2006, 03:57

no. 4.x will stay in Delphi 7. It's not even complete yet. Still more features to add and bugs to kill :)

BoostAddict

24th January 2006, 07:27

i love my realanime

works great for me so far

garbii

24th January 2006, 12:47

RV10 in RMVB?
Yep...

And aparantly the problems are with external aps (like producer). So there is nothing to do just wait for new wine version (it appers every month).
.............................

nmatos

24th January 2006, 12:59

Sirber

24th January 2006, 13:29

double slash worked on my side. Do you have a "producer.log" somewhere?

Sirber

25th January 2006, 01:38

@Lain

please commit your MP4 output code. I'd like to release RC3 :(

killerhex

25th January 2006, 02:33

yes release

Sirber

25th January 2006, 02:40

yes release
No please? Sounds like an order. Guess what, we owe you nothing. We develop it in our free time and we are not paid for it. If you want releases faster, you have plenty of way to do so and what you just said is not in those ways.

:sly:

garbii

25th January 2006, 12:49

No please? Sounds like an order. Guess what, we owe you nothing. We develop it in our free time and we are not paid for it. If you want releases faster, you have plenty of way to do so and what you just said is not in those ways.

:sly:
Yep... That's the whole idea of GPL and institutions like FSF (free software fundation). People make free programs just to show what they can do and just for their own fun, hobby, or just becouse they need this kind of program themselves.
The same people also like to hear compliments or features REQUESTS (but not orders) from the community.

I have experience with using some comercial products and belive me their autors do not listen to request and sugestions made by users (well it's the case of most of them)
Just try to make a request from MS :) ... MS do not care about their users, they only care about their money:devil:

Those who make programs under GPL are mostly very kind people, and they will hear u out. Though like Sirber said you should remember that they make it in their free time just becouse they want to. Stupid posts and coments also may anger just anybody so please show some apraciation for those people

Sirber

25th January 2006, 13:16

:goodpost:

I found a way to manage AVS as input. Code here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=774730#post774730).

Sirber

26th January 2006, 03:37

I'm coding the "AVS input" using VFW libraries and light beer. I hope you guys will be happy, coz I'm not.

Sirber

26th January 2006, 04:20

@Lain

please commit your MP4 output code. I'd like to release RC3 :(Seems the code was there and working :rolleyes:

AVS input is working #1. RC3 will be out shortly.

nickolasemp

26th January 2006, 11:28

Hello there sirber... Are you thinking of supporting mpg as input? I have tons of videoclips and I would like to make them in mp4 (x264 with aac+ v2) so as to save space...

Another question:Do you plan on supporting encoding of dvds?

Last question: With which player do I play those files? Or the more appropriate question would be, what codecs do I need to play those files. I know nero decoder can decode x264 but i have no aac+ v2 decoder for my winodws media player to play it. Plus I can't seem to find one decoding aac+ v2, just aac+ v1(that is without the ps support).

Thank you a lot in advance for answering and thanks a lot for your great program. It sure is great!!!! :thanks: :thanks: :thanks:

Yod4z

26th January 2006, 14:34

Relaanime never support DVDRipping because of the legality problemes ;)

Siber is working on The MPEG1 support like mentioned in this topic ;)

for ripping DVd juste use some ripping programe like smartripper en creat the d2v file with dgindex and then open th d2v with relanaime ;)

To decoe x264 and AAC+ i use FFdshow and coreAAC with halli matroska splitter to read mp4 and mkv

Sirber

26th January 2006, 16:09

Now that I support AVS, I can use it to input MPEG. This will be in RC3.

I have plans to support DVD better than just using d2v. It will be a popup where you can set your d2v, ac3s, subs, set the resize and crop of the video, and this will be 1 item in the "Files/Input" list, so at the end video, audio and subs are all merged in 1 MKV. This is due for RealAnime 4.1.0

@Yod4z

RealAnime never been like other DVD rip soft coz I had no good way to make it "in the batch way". There are no legal problem ;)

Inventive Software

26th January 2006, 16:52

@Sirber: Any particular reason for wanting to switch to Java? Apart from the wide compatibility with other devices, I don't think RealAnime would be suited to Java. ;)

@Killerhex: I have a Celeron 800 with 192 MB RAM. I do 2 passes, one each day. I set it to go in the morning, leave for school/work and come back with it done. Next morning I do the 2nd pass. By the evening, I have a file that's ready.

BTW, that's for a 1/2 hour clip. Round encoding time is about 16 hours on average (remember, I do 2 passes!). I live with it because now I can play AVC content on my computer, I'll stick with it. The quality always outways the encoding time. It'll always be better than ASP content for the stuff I encode.

Sirber

26th January 2006, 17:49

@Inventive Software

The java version will not replace RealAnime 4, not become the v5. It will merely be a mencoder frontend that runs on Linux and Windows.

@All

I got MPEG input working. I'm releasing RC3.

Inventive Software

26th January 2006, 17:52

In which case you're alright I think. Good luck with Java. I hope you have as much success as you have had encoding with Delphi!

Sirber

26th January 2006, 17:54

In which case you're alright I think. Good luck with Java. I hope you have as much success as you have had encoding with Delphi!So you are wishing me a 4.08% success (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=105678)? :angry: ;)

Inventive Software

26th January 2006, 17:56

4.06%. I just voted, and unfortunately it wasn't for yours! ;)

I merely meant that you have a very successful and competent tool you've developed and maintained. If my computer wasn't so lousy, I'd probably use it. ;)

Sirber

26th January 2006, 18:25

4.06%. I just voted, and unfortunately it wasn't for yours! ;):devil:

I merely meant that you have a very successful and competent tool you've developed and maintained. Thanks! :D

If my computer wasn't so lousy, I'd probably use it.What do you use with your lousy computer to encode then? ;)

Sirber

26th January 2006, 18:36

Fixes:
* Strange delay when encoding from MKV, OGM and MP4
* AAC handling
* Low Complexity profiles (to encode for iPod, PocketPC, Cellphone, etc)
* Vorbis bitrates
* MP4 output now work!
* Some menus were activated even if powerpack wasn't installed

New:
* AVS input (via VFW)
* MPEG input (via AVS input)
* Track sorting: general -> video -> audio -> sub -> chapter -> images
* Do X after encode: nothing (my favorite!), shutdown
* --no-fast-p-skip, help against blocks in flat areas
* XP theme support
* More 16:9 resolutions for filtering
* Nero 7 for AAC codec (64kbps to 128kbps)

Removed:
* Copy AVI to temp dir

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http://www.detritus.qc.ca

Sirber

26th January 2006, 18:57

I'm upping a new version, I forgot to add a binary for "Low Complexity Profiles" for x264.

Inventive Software

26th January 2006, 23:01

RC3B perhaps?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inventive Software
If my computer wasn't so lousy, I'd probably use it.

What do you use with your lousy computer to encode then? ;)

VirtualDub with x264 VFW. Don't take it personally, it's just the system requirements for RealAnime are quite high compared to my system, and there's no guarantee it'll run under 98 either. :(

Bear in mind it takes around 8 hours to encode 0.5 hour content, and I usually do 2 passes. Encoding "The Matrix Revolutions" is certainly out of the question!

Sirber

26th January 2006, 23:09

RC3B perhaps?No need, I reuploaded it quite fast enough :)
VirtualDub with x264 VFW. Don't take it personally, it's just the system requirements for RealAnime are quite high compared to my system, and there's no guarantee it'll run under 98 either. :(The requirements for RealAnime are informations only. If you have lower then them it will just be slower. About Win98, I didn't try but I think you'll have no problem, except maybe missing system DLLs. Well, you have nothing to lose to try ;)

Inventive Software

26th January 2006, 23:14

Fair enough. I have the second pass of something to complete tomorrow, but after that, I'll give RealAnime a go. It can't hurt. If something is terminal, I have ways of fixing it! *Readys mallet with target on monitor*

Sirber

26th January 2006, 23:17

If you have issue it will be my pleasure (yeah right :p) to help ya if you don't start to send me emails :devil: :D

In any case I could install win98 in a virtual PC.

Inventive Software

26th January 2006, 23:18

Virtual PC? Are you ****ing nuts?

BoostAddict

26th January 2006, 23:49

you can't run two different passes at different times in realanime can you?

or is it something i didnt know about

Inventive Software

26th January 2006, 23:52

In general, the first pass is run first, the second pass is run second. It may sound blatantly obvious, but it's surprising how many people don't know that this is how codecs have worked for years and will continue to do so. ;)

It may be possible to run 2 different single pass encodes, but this involves config tweaking, and goes beyond my scope of understanding.

Sirber

27th January 2006, 00:00

I have no clue on what you are talking about... :(

Could you please confuse me more? ;)

Yod4z

27th January 2006, 00:59

huhu!!!! New version, is time for new compression :D Thanks Siber ;)

ggab

27th January 2006, 01:02

thanks a lot Sirber for releasing RC3, this version is almost the final v4 one ;)

i'll test / recode a lot Mpeg content :)

edit: PowerPack for 4.0.0 RC3, is it the same file launched some weeks ago (for rc1/rc2) ?

edit2:

well, i have checked: Last-Modified: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:07:28 GMT

i guess it is newer :D

Yod4z

27th January 2006, 01:06

i not found the option to do X
http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lol2cv.jpg

:( there no option to do some command line :(

Sirber

27th January 2006, 01:10

@gabb

New file :)

@Yod4z

Not yet, and we are not sure if we'll do one for security reasons.

killerhex

27th January 2006, 01:44

thanx for the new Rc3

Sirber

27th January 2006, 01:46

no problem. enjoy!

Sirber

27th January 2006, 02:31

Just to be sure, do you have all voted to:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=105678
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=106173

Your opinion is important :)

Danisan

27th January 2006, 10:04

Thank you for the new version! :thanks:

Danisan

27th January 2006, 11:40

I have one persistant problem with RealAnime ever since i upgraded to a dual core CPU. Audio analyzing and transcoding is very slow unless i manually set the affinity to one core.

However, if I hold down the left mouse button on the slider in the Input window it speeds up the audio encoding if I don't set affinity to one core.

I've made a small video capture to demontrate this.
http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php?f=12303dd5e3572ca10f26421e

Sirber

27th January 2006, 13:12

This seems to be the same as the "HT problem". BeSweet goes very slowly for no reason. I will post a new build to see if it helps.

Sirber

27th January 2006, 13:23

@Danisan

I got lost in the ads. I couldn't get the video.

Here's a new build. I changed the Sleep from 150ms to 30ms.

http://www.mytempdir.com/412333

Danisan

27th January 2006, 16:41

You're right FileFactory sucks butt with all the ads. I placed it here instead:
http://www.mytempdir.com/412813

Thanks for the new build, I'll try is ASAP! :)

Sirber

27th January 2006, 16:51

If it's like the HT bug, the lower Sleep in ms, the better it runs. I added a Sleep to prevent lost CPU by RealAnime on SMP machines.

Inventive Software

27th January 2006, 17:11

Maybe have an SMP build and a non-SMP build; if the Sleep hurts non-SMP machines quite badly, it may be a viable alternative.

Sirber

27th January 2006, 17:34

Sleep don't affect non-SMP machines, usualy. It at worst add a little latency in the UI responsiveness. The problem has been only been reported with besweet. x264 is not affected.

Danisan

27th January 2006, 17:50

Well, it helped. Audio encoding is much faster now. :thanks:

Sirber

27th January 2006, 17:52

What's the CPU usage of BeSweet?

Danisan

27th January 2006, 19:56

On my X2 3800+ it uses 45-50%. That equals one core at full load. And that's with the new RA build you posted. Don't remember how much the old one used.

Sirber

27th January 2006, 20:00

ok. BeSweet is not SMP. everything seems normal then :)

killerhex

27th January 2006, 23:26

do i need to install nero 7

BoostAddict

28th January 2006, 00:16

wow my computer is only 1.6 ghz
that's how fast mine goes (when you're not touching the slider) haha

gotta look into dual cores now...

Sirber

28th January 2006, 00:50

do i need to install nero 7
No. Everything needed is bundeled.

Sirber

28th January 2006, 03:29

wow my computer is only 1.6 ghz
that's how fast mine goes (when you're not touching the slider) haha

gotta look into dual cores now...As well as new DDR dual channel and a PCI express video card ;)

ggab

28th January 2006, 04:01

with these quick settings change:
x264 @ 500kbps. quality, High, 3pass, MP4 , NOT encode audio

rc3 error: Merge Error #3(Mkv Merge)

source: xvid, mp3

General
Count : 170
Kind of stream : General
Count of video strea : 1
Count of audio strea : 1
Count of text stream : 0
Count of chapter str : 0
Count of image strea : 0
Complete name : C:\Program Files\RealAnime 40rc3\output\Ichigo 100% - Promo.avi
Folder name : C:\Program Files\RealAnime 40rc3\output
File name : Ichigo 100% - Promo.avi
File extension : avi
File size : 3502080
File size : 3.34 MiB
File size : 3420 KiB
File size : 3.3 MiB
File size : 3.34 MiB
File size : 3.340 MiB
Format : AVI
Format : Audio Video Interleave
Format/Extensions : AVI
Overal BitRate : 1886896
Overal BitRate : 1887 KBps
PlayTime : 14848
PlayTime : 14s 848ms
PlayTime : 14s 848ms
PlayTime : 14s 848ms
PlayTime : 00:00:14.848
Codecs Video : XviD
Audio codecs : MPEG1/2 L3
App_Muxing : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.1 (build 2366/release)

Video #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : XVID
Codec : XviD
Codec/Info : XviD project
Codec/Url : http://www.koepi.org/xvid.shtml
Bit rate : 1745896
Bit rate : 1746 KBps
Width : 640
Height : 480
Aspect ratio : 1.333
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 23.977
Frame rate : 23.977
FrameCount : 356
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.237

Audio #0
Count : 168
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : 55
Codec : MPEG1/2 L3
Codec/Info : MPEG1 or 2 Audio Layer 3
Codec/Url : http://www.iis.fraunhofer.de/amm/index.html
Bit rate : 128000
Bit rate : 128 KBps
Channels : 2
Channels : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44100
Sampling rate : 44 KHz

ggab

28th January 2006, 04:07

Sirber

28th January 2006, 04:08

x264 (.mp4) + MP3 (.mp3) hasn't been tested yet with MP4 output. Can you list the files in "C:\Program Files\RealAnime 40rc3\temp" ?

Sirber

28th January 2006, 04:10

i have checked C:\Program Files\RealAnime 40rc3\temp

and i got:

source.avi // same avi input file (3.3mb)
(do u say that avi copy in temp folder is not needed anymore :S ?)

1.avs //
........
LoadPlugin ("C:\Program Files\RealAnime 40rc3\avs\NiceFPS.dll")
DirectShowSource("C:\Program Files\RealAnime 40rc3\temp\source.avi", audio=false)

NiceFPS()
ConvertToYV12()

and video.mp4.mp4.mp4 (only video ABR 500kbps) 0.9 mbhum... you got me on that :) Audio is in AVI and hasn,t been extracted since I feed the AVI to besweet. I suggest that you recode audio to AAC at 64kbps or 96kbps, or AAC+ at 64kbps. To fix I would have to convert AVI to MKV before encoding to use the MKV extraction functions.

ggab

28th January 2006, 07:18

ok, thanks

( i still prefer the mkv container because u can add vorbis audio hehe :D )

bug? :

input:

General
Count : 169
Kind of stream : General
Count of video strea : 1
Count of audio strea : 1
Count of text stream : 0
Count of chapter str : 0
Count of image strea : 0
Complete name : C:\Documents and Settings\Propietario\Escritorio\Videos01\+Initial D Second Stage OP (TV TMPG).mpg
Folder name : C:\Documents and Settings\Propietario\Escritorio\Videos01
File name : +Initial D Second Stage OP (TV TMPG).mpg
File extension : mpg
File size : 34883588
File size : 33.3 MiB
File size : 33 MiB
File size : 33 MiB
File size : 33.3 MiB
File size : 33.27 MiB
Format : MPEG1
Format : MPEG 1 multiplexer
Format/Extensions : M1S MPEG MPG MPE MPGX MPM
Overal BitRate : 3019276
Overal BitRate : 3019 KBps
PlayTime : 92429
PlayTime : 1mn 32s
PlayTime : 1mn 32s 429ms
PlayTime : 1mn 32s
PlayTime : 00:01:32.429
Codecs Video : MPEG Video 1
Audio codecs : MPEG Audio 1 layer 2

Video #0
Count : 35
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Video
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : MPV1
Codec : MPEG Video 1
BitRate/Mode : VBR
Width : 320
Height : 240
Aspect ratio : 1.333
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 29.970
Frame rate : 29.97
FrameCount : 2772
Delay : 0

Audio #0
Count : 34
Count of stream of t : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
StreamKindID : 0
Codec : MPA1/2
Codec : MPEG Audio 1 layer 2
Bit rate : 224000
Bit rate : 224 KBps
Channels : 2
Channels : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44100
Sampling rate : 44 KHz
Delay : 0
Video0 delay : 0

and when i wanna preview it in video filtering: (with/without use directshow)

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/8453/dibujocert46dh.gif

ggab

28th January 2006, 07:26

i got again Merge Error #3(Mkv Merge)

with the file from the previous post and x264 high 3pass 400k MKV , NOT encode audio

resulting in \temp

source.avs
//
# RealAnime 4
DirectShowSource("C:\Documents and Settings\Propietario\Escritorio\Videos01\+Initial D Second Stage OP (TV TMPG).mpg")

1.avs
//
.......
LoadPlugin ("C:\Program Files\RealAnime 40rc3\avs\NiceFPS.dll")
AVISource("C:\Program Files\RealAnime 40rc3\temp\\source.avs")
Tweak (0 , 1 , -20.0 , 1 )
NiceFPS()
ConvertToYV12()

and video.mkv.mkv.mkv video only, ~ 400kbps
//
Video: 1min 30seg, 4600kb, MPEG4 Video (AVC) 320x240 29.97fps [Video]

i guess it's a similar issue like the MP4 one (because i am not encoding the audio file.....?¿)

ggab

28th January 2006, 09:06

which version is \besweet\libvorbis.dll ?

vorbis 1.1.1, vorbis aoTuV beta 4, etc??

EDIT: it is updated, great job ;) Same file/crc32 like the Standard one from these page:

www.rarewares.org/ogg.html

libvorbis.dll using aoTuVb4.51 2005-12-08
library for encoding/decoding Vorbis files. ICL9.0 compiles.
Standard (197Kb) - P4 Only (174Kb)

(the P4 version, is a ICL compile for P4/AMD Sempron, Athlon 64, so if realanime requires that cpu, it might be faster...)

with RC3, is it right?

if a choose:
AAC codec (64kbps to 128kbps) it uses Nero 7
AAC+ code (32 to 64) it uses real audio encoder
AAC+ v2 code (16 to 64) it uses Winamp 5.12 encoder

I have no data about 2 pass High vs 3 pass medium, but I know 3 pass gives more stable backgrounds. You can also check "Trellis optimizations" in Advanced (30-40% less speed).
even with x264 r408 is about 35% less speed?
did you do/know any tests about quality gain?

i would like to have the best possible quality (anime sources in general) so i'm using x264 High 3pass Filt. +1 (but without Trellis ON.... is it worth?)

with a video bitrate of about 400kbps for 320*240 video file
about 500kbps for 480*360
and about 600kbps for 640*480 video (almost dvd rip quality)

are u guys agree with these "quick" equivalents bitrate settings :D ?

*wishlist* can u add the crop avisynth function in the filter roll-up ? it is very useful :)

Sirber

28th January 2006, 14:32

@ gabb

with these quick settings change:
x264 @ 500kbps. quality, High, 3pass, MP4 , NOT encode audio

then

( i still prefer the mkv container because u can add vorbis audio hehe )

;)

About mpeg, I'm sure the bug is coz of Initial D... I hate Initial D... ;)
Did it still encode?

ggab

28th January 2006, 20:22

well, it's just a bug report about the MP4 bug

-------------------

Initial D: Yes, the encode is ok, the video file video.mkv.mkv.mkv
video only, ~ 400kbps // Video: 1min 30seg, 4600kb, MPEG4 Video (AVC) 320x240 29.97fps [Video]

is watchable :) (with mkvmerge i added the vorbis audio file)

------------------

one more thing:

that ichigo clip (from the first post of today), if i a choose mkv, it has 23.977 fps (same as source)

and why if a choose MP4, i got 25fps?

well, i guess nicefps() change that.... but why?
mp4 + 23.977fps video is a bad combination?

Sirber

28th January 2006, 21:36

@Initial D

Why not making the vorbis with RealAnime?

@ichigo clip

FPS bug. Lain?

XH42

29th January 2006, 00:59

A suggestion to future Realanime: Is it possible to have the 'Info/Edit' show stats for 'mkv' containers when you right click your file in the inout window? It appears only to work with avi.

killerhex

29th January 2006, 02:35

Analysis failed:unsuported source (.ogm) im getting that everytime i try converting a dual audio ogm file

im trying using RV10-300kbps AAC+v2-64kbps tried encoding video and all audio tracks

ggab

29th January 2006, 05:43

Why not making the vorbis with RealAnime?
i dunno if it was using the latest aoTuV one :)

*updated wishlist*
- add the crop avisynth function in the filter roll-up ? it is very useful
- add 80 and 112 kbps vorbis bitrate

i dont see any fps drop when i check Use trellis ON

(High 500 + Trellis ON)
1p ~16fps
2p ~3fps
3p ~2,3fps

(High 500 + Trellis OFF)
1p ~19,5fps
2p ~2,7fps
3p ~2,5fps

well, maybe because that ichigo source is only 14secs long.....¿?

bug: script error, there is no function named "aSharp"

Sirber

29th January 2006, 05:55

@XH42

It should work on MKV too, as well as MP4 and OGM. What does it say?

@killerhex

if (LowerCase(sExt) = '.ogm') then

Code is there and has been tested. Can you provide us with a source sample?

[edit]

About your bitrates, IMO you underkill for RV10 and overkill for AAC+v2...

@ggab

* It is the last one :) It can do Q-2!
* About crop, how can I know defautls values? Also, the filtering section will be completly rewritten in 4.1.
* I'll add the bitrates for 4.0
* I can see some framedrop. Sad thing is trellis is used in "Fast First" and it should not.
* Thanks! I will look into that :) must be a forgotten DLL...

killerhex

29th January 2006, 10:47

[edit]

About your bitrates, IMO you underkill for RV10 and overkill for AAC+v2...

is this meant for me and what do you mean by it

its working now i muxed the .ogm to .mkv

Sirber

29th January 2006, 15:25

It was ment for you. I ment that your video bitrate is too low and your audio bitrate is too high, for the selected codecs.

Irwin

29th January 2006, 15:59

Hi. There is a chance for no-256MB Ram version RealAnime ?. I have only 192MB RAM. For example VirtualDub works very good on 64mb machines.

Sirber

29th January 2006, 16:15

The 256MB ram recommendation is there for a reason: prevent x264 to use SWAP memory. Depending on your source and filtering, x264 uses from 100MB to 300MB RAM.

vanger

29th January 2006, 18:33

RC3 version still creates a copy of input file :mad:
I usually process so much files (over 2Gb) in a day and sometimes have no free space for creating a copy for each movie.
So I already waiting a month for the version without this "feature", but without success :(

Sirber

29th January 2006, 18:45

Which source? For MKV, OGM and MP4, files gets extracted in the temp dir. What had been disabled in RC3 is the copy of AVI in the temp folder.

[edit]

I have no choice to extract MKV, OGM and MP4 files, since I need to start the encoder for each single track.

vanger

29th January 2006, 19:52

Source: AVI with video in MJPEG and audio in PCM WAV. Size ~3.5Gb.

Sirber

29th January 2006, 19:54

and the AVI goes to "\temp\source.avi" ?

[edit]

Looks like I didn't comment enough code:)

get the update here: http://www.mytempdir.com/417374

killerhex

30th January 2006, 04:07

im using now
RV10-368kbps
AAC+v2-44kbps
Quality-High
resize bicubic-640x480

total ouput filesize -70-80mb

Sirber

30th January 2006, 04:19

@killerhex

good!

@All

I'm gonna remove the checkbox "Low Compelxity Profiles" and use instead a dropdown menu for "Normal", "iPod" and "Pocket PC". I'll need some testers to set the right settings once the base code is working.

killerhex

30th January 2006, 05:02

ill test it

vanger

30th January 2006, 05:44

get the update here: http://www.mytempdir.com/417374
It seems to work correct now. I'm waiting for the end of encoding :)

ggab

30th January 2006, 08:39

in INPUT, right mouse click menu, ADD dvd project do nothing :P

? : if a choose RMVB container only AAC+ is selectable = right
but i "suggest" to set the vorbis codec in grey too, when MP4 is selected :D

question about MSharpen:
#default line#
MSharpen(threshold=10, strength=100, highq=false)

which source is high quality (to set highq=true) ?? (something related to resolution?)

question2 :)

how about the Soften filters? do u find them usefull with realanime?

#example#
TemporalSoften(4, 4, 8, scenechange=15, mode=2)

damrod

30th January 2006, 09:04

@sirber : if you need tester...i can help also add psp profile if you want ;-))

for AAC+v2-44kbps is it really equivalent to he-aac 64 in quality?? seems interesting...you do it with besweet?

Eretria-chan

30th January 2006, 12:55

Wow, sirber, it looks like your software is really popular. From this month, I have gathered these statistics from my mirror:

Top 10 URLs:

#1: /downloads/RealAnimeLE/RealAnime_400RC2.exe - 39.86%!
#2: /downloads/RealAnimeLE/RealAnime_400PWP.exe - 16.31%!
#3: /downloads/RealAnimeLE/RealAnime_400RC3.exe - 16.17%!
That is a total of 39.86 + 16.31 + 16.17 = 72.34%!

Bandwidth:

#1: /downloads/RealAnimeLE/RealAnime_400RC2.exe:
Size: ~16976 kb
Bandwidth: 11299707 kb = ~11034 mb
Hits: 3672 (20.34%)
Downloads: 11299707 / ~16976 = ~665 times

#2: /downloads/RealAnimeLE/RealAnime_400PWP.exe:
Size: ~7981 kb
Bandwidth: 4624107 kb = ~4515 mb
Hits: 2199 (12.18%)
Downloads: 4624107 / ~7981 = ~579 times

#3: /downloads/RealAnimeLE/RealAnime_400RC3.exe
Size: ~16976 kb
Bandwidth: 4583054 kb = ~4475 mb
Hits: 1313 (7.27%)
Downloads: 4583054 / ~16976 = ~269 times

Total bandwidth transfered: 11.299.707 + 4.624.107 + 4.583.054 = 20.506.868 kb = ~20026 mb

All numbers had their decimals discarded instead of rounding, though. It looks like RealAnime is the most poular download on the site!
Btw, I could rename /downloads/RealAnimeLE to /downloads/RealAnime or something if you want to, since you changed the name.

anne_so78

30th January 2006, 18:32

Wow! It's great to see RealAnime being developed so actively ( Hey Sirber, didn't you once promise v3.20 was going to be the absolute last release? ) Say, when can we expect a stable v4.0 release?

Sirber

30th January 2006, 18:49

Say, when can we expect a stable v4.0 release?Not yet. I'm rebuilding the UI to make the new filtering section as well as an easier way to use profiles (Normal, iPod, PocketPC, PSP) which will remove codecs and containers that aren't compatible with the selected profile and set the right filtering (like resize 320x240, 12FPS).

in INPUT, right mouse click menu, ADD dvd project do nothing :PThis is due for 4.1. it will let you add DVD source, and graphicaly help you with the resize and crop.
? : if a choose RMVB container only AAC+ is selectable = right
but i "suggest" to set the vorbis codec in grey too, when MP4 is selectedWill be fixed completly for 4.0:)
question about MSharpen:
#default line#
MSharpen(threshold=10, strength=100, highq=false)

which source is high quality (to set highq=true) ?? (something related to resolution?)highq is slower, but has a better sharpen

question2

how about the Soften filters? do u find them usefull with realanime?

#example#
TemporalSoften(4, 4, 8, scenechange=15, mode=2)I never tryed.