NuMenu4u.2.0.25

[kle500]

@Zeul
No difference in quality, with the new build.
I will send you to your e-mail, 3 samples:
1. The original wav
2. Converted from Numenu
3. Converted with Softencode

You will hear the difference.

george

[SlipGun]

I still get duration mismatch warnings, but for a different problem from the one that's already been fixed. ProCoder 1.5 (not 2) seems to output many seconds of blank space at the end of short (~2 second) segments. I wonder what's up with that.

[Zeul]

guess i'm going to have to downgrade to procoder 1.5 to see whats up

[pipieye]

Hi Zeul,
Would it be easy to add a feature to ask NuMenu to convert PAL->NTSC by selecting a VOB file other than vts_xx_0.vob

The result need not have to include the ifo's, just the converted vob.

;)

Thanks
Pipi

[Zeul]

pipieye
Although possible i suppose, that would take NuMenu4u out of just the menu domain. That is a job better suited to dif4u/scenaid. All you need to do is change the AVS scripts in dif4u and this will output your compliant m2v. If you need to alter the audio then just add the audio files from dif4u to the .bat file in the working dir/frameserving folder. Change the names to whatever and run the bat. this will give you your compliant m2v / ac3 files. You will of course have to manually recreate the scenario in scenarist, as this will confuse the hell out of scenaid.

[seewen]

I just retried to backup "Cool Runnings" menu (PAL, made of stills, only 9Mo).
I want to backup this little menu with NuMenu4u beccause I replaced a subtitle stream, and I want to change the Menu Button accordingly (and numenu demux/remux all, I just need to change 2-3 pictures during the process)

And the problem occurs again with 2.0.5:

1) in *.ecl you can see that:

height=480
...
frame_rate_idx=4
....

instead of "576" & "3" for PAL.

2) The subtitles are processed like if it was 720x480. In the *.idx you see that:

# Original frame size
size: 720x480

and in the *.sst you see that:

TV_Type NTSC
Tape_Type NON_DROP
Pixel_Area (0 477)
...
Display_Area (0 2 719 479)


I don't know how to explain better the problem. I'm afraid my bad english doesn't describe the problem clearly enough.

But I swear that the original menu is 720x576, and that I didn't checked "PAL->NTSC conversion" (the *.avs are normal. No sign of conversion at all) ;-)

[Zeul]

well i don't change the sst at all in this regard (although i do write the .ifo that vsrip uses), so if vsrip thinks the files are ntsc resolution and so does numenu then wtf? what do the d2v files and d2v.log files say?

[seewen]

here is the 1st d2v:

DVD2AVIProjectFile03
1
51 J:\COOL_RUNNINGS\Menu205\D_VTS_01_0\DEMUXED\001.M2V

Stream_Type=0,0,0
iDCT_Algorithm=1 (1:MMX 2:SSEMMX 3:FPU 4:REF 5:SSE2MMX)
YUVRGB_Scale=1 (0:TVScale 1:PCScale)
Luminance_Filter=0,0 (Gamma, Offset)
Picture_Size=0,0,0,0 (ClipLeft, ClipRight, ClipTop, ClipBottom)
Aspect_Ratio=1:1
Field_Operation=0 (0:None 1:ForcedFILM 2:SwapOrder 3:RawFrames)
Frame_Rate=25000
Location=0,0,0,73

7 0 170 0 0 12 9

FINISHED -1.#J% FILM


Here is the d2v log (I assume)

GOPWarn=0
MPVBytes=0
MPVMegaBytes=0
AudioTracks=0
D2VFrames=1
FramePictures=1
FrameRate=25000
Width=720
Height=576
Bitrate=1
Progressive=1
FrameDCT=1
TFF=1
ZigZag=1
PercentFilm=0


I'll send you the menu. So you can see the beast.

[pipieye]

Originally posted by Zeul
pipieye
Although possible i suppose, that would take NuMenu4u out of just the menu domain. That is a job better suited to dif4u/scenaid. All you need to do is change the AVS scripts in dif4u and this will output your compliant m2v. If you need to alter the audio then just add the audio files from dif4u to the .bat file in the working dir/frameserving folder. Change the names to whatever and run the bat. this will give you your compliant m2v / ac3 files. You will of course have to manually recreate the scenario in scenarist, as this will confuse the hell out of scenaid.

Only reason I ask is coz there are some dvd come with games for kids that I need converted from PAL->NTSC. These vobs have a mixture of animated+stills with/without audio and with buttons (BOV?) So very similar to menus. The dif4u is more suited for pure video?

Thanks
Pipieye

[nicolati]

Thanks a lot Zeul!!! I will try this version.
Bye.
nicolati

[Zeul]

nicolati
This build should now compile, however, i had to remove a couple of your PGC commands - they didn't point to anything which is the reason for the previous failure. Please let me know if the menus works *exactly* like the original.
thanks

[Nevs5]

not sure if this is me but i just tried 2.0.5 with cce 2.70.2.0 and seems that it's only doing one pass with cce even though i have it set in dif4u at 8 pass, i am launching numenu from dif4u also.

[Zeul]

Nevs5
You are absolutely correct. I have found the error and fixed. New build soon.

[kle500]

@Zeul
(softencode low quality)
Have you received my samples in your mail?
I hope you can clearly hear the quality difference.

[Nevs5]

Originally posted by Zeul
Nevs5
You are absolutely correct. I have found the error and fixed. New build soon.

k, cool zeul

[nicolati]

Great!!! Now it compiles, but however there is another problem:p :( !!! Scenarist doesn't terminate authoriting, because some tracks are marked as Place Holder.
Bye
nicolati

[Zeul]

nicolati

hmm i am surprised it compiled for me fine - i will rerun to be sure.

[tijgert]

Are there any plans to make NuMenu4u work with the new DVD2AVI successor? DGIndex and DGDecode.dll.

[Zeul]

Not at present. I am not sure there would be any advantage - correct me if i'm wrong. The dvd2avi i use already keeps every frame, unlike the early versions.

[D3s7]

I believe there some slight improvements on how the asset is decoded I/B/P

not enough to warrant the code changes needed for it to work though i wouldn't think

[tijgert]

Some people seem to think that DVD2AVI does drop frames.
If you say yours doesn't, can you tell me what version you'd recommend?

[nicolati]

Hi Zeul. The version 2.0.5 WORKS FINE!!!;) :p :) :D
She encodes and finalize all, including Scenarist steps.
Great work!!!!
Bye.
nicolati

[Zeul]

:D

[rmtaibo]

@ Zeul

Have you think about Numenu4u will compress/convert whole DVD with big3 tools, and using Numenu4u as the main program?

Launching/closing all the required programs for a DVD conversion...

I think your program has a better interface to manage all the big3 tools...

Maybe another developers will not agree with this...

But I think the big3 tools method is the better way to convert a DVD and need to be improved a bit.

The hardest part of a DVD conversion is managing of menus files and you did it very well. Why not manage the rest of the DVD files with the existing tools and Numenu4U?

[Sjõbbe]

Hi Zeul.
I've tried out your program NUMenu4U, but I've got a little problem. It doesn't work in Windows 2003 Server. (But it works well in WinXP). I can start the program in win2003 but as soon as I touch any of the menues (Start, Encoder, Scenarist,...) at the top, the whole program crashes. I get two messages that tell me that there is something wrong. Unfortunally I cant post it here right now becaouse my server isn't available at the moment.

Is this a big issue for you to fix or do you think you can make it to your next version of NUMenu4U?

//Sjobbe

[Zeul]

I think the problem lies in the commandbar.ocx file. I don't have server2003 but i suspect that is the core problem. I maybe able to alter the gui for server2003 detection.

@rmtaibo
Oooh now thats opening up a whole can of worms ;)

[nicolati]

Zeul, you could include that file in the build and force NuMenu to use this instead of that of system.
Bye.
nicolati

[EnDeR_PL]

newest version 2.0.5

Van_Heling PAL ENG/PL edition

file: VIDEO_TS.VOB

i have this error when "Analize Subtitle VOB" :

Procedure Name: Item
Module Name: VOB_ID

Error Number: 9
Error Description: Subscript out of range
Error Source: ErrorHandler
Error Line: 8
Call Stack:
Item --> VOB_ID
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
ByteHandle --> GlobalFunctions
SUBSCAN --> AssetProcess
CreateIFO --> AssetProcess
VobAnalysis --> Test
StartNuMenu4u --> ExecuteProgram
go_Click --> MainForm
Form_Activate --> MainForm

[Zeul]

hmm if this is the UK version i did this myself without probs. Please send me the VTS_01_0.VOB in the subtitle folder and all the original IFO's. Running the debug screen should do this for you.

[EnDeR_PL]

sended...

sorry. i don't rar it...:(

[Zeul]

Found your problem. It was the IFO file. It didn't list all the vobids that were present in the actual VOB file!! More protection??
Anyway i have added a check for that, in the next release.

[Zeul]

2.0.6 now released. See first post for changelog

[Darklistener]

Hi Zeul,
unlock vip version works fine.
I like the new wizard.
Thx for another nice version :)

[EnDeR_PL]

Last error is corrected. thanks

but...

there is something with cce. this version doing only first pass(analising)and go to scenarist.strange...:confused:

i start project in DIF4U with re-encode menu with NuMenu4u, and NM4u do CCE pass with setting OPV: Q 45(0-9352) but i set before multipass and 2200 avg bitrate...

[Zeul]

What is the build of CCE. Send me the log file also

[EnDeR_PL]

sended
CCE 2.66.1.7

another error??
orginal VIDEO_TS.VOB has 99MB, before NM4u process is only 150KB. NM4u deleted all animations...

[Zeul]

Vobs 2,4 & 5 are dummies in the VIDEO_TS.VOB. Vob 1 is a still and Vob 3 is a slideshow (stills). So the output VOB looks correct. NuMenu has stripped out the fakes :)

Still investigating CCE

[EnDeR_PL]

but in Video_Ts been two animation:
starting animation with languange selection
and
dvd credits(PAL-Interlaced Movie)<-deleted...

[Sjõbbe]

Hi the new release doesnt work for windows 2003 either.
I dont know if that was your intention but I wanted to inform you if you are going to fix it later.

[Zeul]

still no resolution for widows 2003. A redesign will be necesary which i am looking into.

[Zeul]

EnDeR_PL
I am presuming that you have not actually tried your menus, because your VIDEO_TS.VOB is full of dummies. This has been discussed in several threads before. Looking at the IFO shows:

Menu Language Units: 1
Language Menu Unit 1: [English]

Language Menu Unit 1: [English]
Menu 1: [Title-Menu] (entry PGC) (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
Menu 2: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 3: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 4: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 5: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 6: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 7: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 3)
Menu 8: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 9: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 10: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 11: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 12: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)

You can see that only vobs 1 & 3 are called from any of the menu PGCs. Hence 2 is never called and is stripped out. Now, unusally looking at the actual VOB file, ids 4 & 5 are also present even though they are not listed in the IFO. Again these are stripped. I appreciate that these stripped vobs may contain video and audio but i guarantee that they are copies of some of the vobs in VTS_01_0.vob. As a rsult your menus will be unaffected but you have saved 99MB instantly.

[Sjõbbe]

Originally posted by Zeul
still no resolution for widows 2003. A redesign will be necesary which i am looking into.

Thx Sounds great

[jarthel]

just tried 2.0.5 and 2.0.6 on an anime dvd.

first time this happened. It was on the "import into scenarist" stage and it's just stuck there. waited for 30 minutes and still no progress.

I tried running numenu by itself and thru dif4u without much luck.

i can provide log if needed. tnx

[Zeul]

Did automate_scenarist fire up? you can see in running processes

[jarthel]

yes automate_scenarist is running. I killed scenarist and automate_scenarist via task manager. and manually run scenarist to import the .scp file, same effect. rebooted the pc and manually run scenarist and import the .scp file, same effect.

[Zeul]

can you send me the scp file

[jarthel]

Originally posted by Zeul
can you send me the scp file

haven't forgetten about it. it's just that i'm in the process of setting up the xeon PC.

[bagge1]

I also got this problem with one pass only.

I´m using CCE SP 2.70.2.0

It never writes any .vaf file, just one pass and then the next

[TuRiSOft]

Originally posted by Zeul
• Added Muxman support – Muxman is used purely as an authoring engine. Button and navigation details are added by NuMenu4u. The speed increase is enormous. VIP access only. Ensure that the latest release is used (0.13f)

I can't find MuxMan 0.13f. Can I use 0.13h or 0.14 ?

[Zeul]

0.14 will work fine with this version. A new build due in a day or so will require 0.14a as a minimum.