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jdobbs
4th August 2005, 12:34
I changed it. That's an annoying "feature" of the new software. I ran into the same thing with the DVD-RB thread.
Rockas
4th August 2005, 12:42
I don't understand !?!?!?
I've been updating the Title of Rebuilder's Matrix Editor without any problems!?!?!?
... or is there someone doing that for me? :)
Rockas
4th August 2005, 12:47
By the way... I updated the download link on www.dvdrebuilder.com
it's, as usual:
http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=24
Zyphon
5th August 2005, 20:33
It's not a bug.
In CCE Settings, the matrix combo is filled if all the cells of the VobID have the same matrix.
If the matrix is one of the CCE internal, or the matrix is in the matrix folder, you will find the name of the matrix displayed.
If the matrix is selected in another folder, you will find the indication "Custom"
If the matrix combobox is blank, DVD-RB has chosen to use different matrices for the cells (it's an option in DVD-RB PRO: you can chose to use different matrices according to the bitrate of the cell).
If you leave the combo blank, RB-Opt will not change the choice made by DVD-RB. Anyway, if you want to use OPV, you HAVE TO chose ONE matrix per VOB-ID (if you use different matrices, the prediction could never be good).
The same things apply to GOPLength and DCPrecision: if you see no check for those parameters, DVD-RB has chosen to use different values for the cells.
Hi Robot1,
Sorry I made a mistake.
Just tested again with three other DVD's and the matrix is fine and is listed as I set them up in DVD-RB.
Iwas an error on my part. It was late and I was tired when testing it, I realised I was pointing RB-Opt to a REBUILDER.INF that I wiped the original DVD source files from that is why it didn't see the matrix.
However it still doesn't remember the min and max bitrates I set for the previous VOB-ID and I have to again set the min a max bitrates manually.
I shall do some tests tomorrow with a full backup and post my results. :)
robot1
5th August 2005, 20:37
However it still doesn't remember the min and max bitrates I set for the previous VOB-ID and I have to again set the min a max bitrates manually.
If you have to change a setting for different VobIDs, you can try to link them ("Vob-ID Link" button) and change the parameters just one time.
Anyway I think now DVD-RB calculates always the right min&max bitrate (at least for me).
Zyphon
5th August 2005, 20:39
Hi Robot,
I read you PM you sent me regarding the disabling the "remembering the bitrates".
Check your PM. :)
djan
7th August 2005, 00:32
Hi Robot1,
Could you add some other options as Half D1 ? I know that we can add it editing avs file but it could be nice if the feature is directly available.
Zyphon
7th August 2005, 01:14
@djan
Do you mean Half D1 for the main movie? I know DVD-RB can do Half D1 for all the extras.
Skunk
7th August 2005, 16:15
Once I have gone through the prepare phase and used the preview/edit options to blank out some sections of the DVD they still show up in RB-Opt. Should I set the compression on them to the lowest setting or just ignore them? My main concern is that RB-Opt may override settings from DVD-RB and either not blank out the segment or that I may not get the full improvement in quality from the extra space gained.
If I am not clear just ask me what in sam hill Im talking about :)
djan
7th August 2005, 17:43
@djan
Do you mean Half D1 for the main movie? I know DVD-RB can do Half D1 for all the extras.For all VTS. I know that we can do it with DVD-RB for extras, but it could be nice to have it as an option in RB-Opt.
SpazzHH
7th August 2005, 17:52
For all VTS. I know that we can do it with DVD-RB for extras, but it could be nice to have it as an option in RB-Opt.
You can do it in RB for the Main Movie too.Options>AVS Options>Advanced (Expert) Options>Resize to Half D-1. Then choose the VTS of the Main Movie.
Zyphon
7th August 2005, 18:10
@SpazzHH
Thanks for the tip, I completely forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder. :)
robot1
8th August 2005, 22:53
For all VTS. I know that we can do it with DVD-RB for extras, but it could be nice to have it as an option in RB-Opt.
I think it's better to choose half D1 in DVD-RB: it's not only a matter of resize, but also changing some settings in the .ifo
Probably if DVD-RB expects a full D1 clip and finds a clip with HalfD1 resolution there could be problems, but only jdobbs knows this.
Anyway Half D1 is very well implemented in DVd-Rb-
humax
9th August 2005, 16:27
is there a bug in 0.19 ??
DVD-RB makes only 1 Pass when i edit settings with RB-Optimizer.
Or is DVD-RB RC 4.1 the error ???
When i dont use Optimizer it encodes right. ( 4 Passes like i want)
cu
kabukijo
9th August 2005, 21:27
hi,
Firstly like shumax stated, me 2 can confirm that when using rb-opt it only does 1 pass while i chose 3 passes through cce settings in rb-opt. Iam using dvd-rb 93.b, cce 2.70.02 and rb-opt 19.b. My biggest problem is oversizing whit no less than 300 - 400 mb!!! To make it fit on an dvd5 i was forced to delete some audio languanges afterwards very annoying. Ive read many stuff arround this pretty neat forum to overcome this issue but no vail. Ive done an couple of things theyve suggested like i applied VBR mode to all my files, through global options i reduced outputsize to 95%, i even changed VAF=1 to 0 in ECL , etc etc....but the output is always 300 a 400 mb to much!?! I realy hope theres an FINAL sollution to this, cuz i only can maintain Quality of full dvd9 if i can optimized it. Any suggestions R welcome to overcome this problem.
tnx in advance,
urs kab,
robot1
9th August 2005, 22:30
@all
If you experience a bug in RBOpt, please send me these files which are located in the D2VAVS subdir:
rebuilder.inf
rebuilder.ecl
rebuilder.inf.original
rebuilder.ecl.original
My email address is in the readme.txt file.
I can't repeat the bug. If I can find the bug, I can also fix it.
Thank you
humax
9th August 2005, 23:14
Hi
i send u my files.
Hope u can fix the problem - maybei its a RB Problem .
We'll see.
Great Work
kabukijo
10th August 2005, 02:44
hi,
U can count on me 2 for the files :script: ;)
djan
10th August 2005, 04:34
is there a bug in 0.19 ??
DVD-RB makes only 1 Pass when i edit settings with RB-Optimizer.
Or is DVD-RB RC 4.1 the error ???
When i dont use Optimizer it encodes right. ( 4 Passes like i want)
cuAre you sure you don't set OPV ? Choose VBR and verify the number of passes in CCE settings.
humax
10th August 2005, 05:10
hi
im sure not to used opv .
Its chosen VBR.
cu
djan
10th August 2005, 06:31
hi
im sure not to used opv .
Its chosen VBR.
cuSo verify the number of passes when pushing the button CCE Settings in RbOpt.
humax
10th August 2005, 09:01
its chosen 4 passes and he makes only 1 pass.
no vaf. und 3 passes only 1m2v pass. and thats not correct....
djan
10th August 2005, 16:48
Yes there is a problem.
robot1
10th August 2005, 17:16
I'm working to solve it.
robot1
10th August 2005, 18:58
New version:
RB-Opt v0.20 (http://rapidshare.de/files/3847011/RB-Optv0.20.zip.html)
This should fix the OPV-VBR error reported.
Thanks to humax and kabukijo for the reports.
humax
10th August 2005, 19:59
Nice Work
THX
Rockas
10th August 2005, 22:54
Alternative download link:
http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=23
Zyphon
10th August 2005, 23:13
Thanks for the update and bugfix Robot1, I will run some tests this weekend. :)
kabukijo
12th August 2005, 00:32
hi,
Robot1,
Iam glad to repport that the new update of the tool (rb-opt 20) works flawless thus sofar. I tested it on an Full dvd9 movie prox 7,39gb big with allot of noise (retouched/remasterd classic movie) and it works B-eatifull. Well, i only tested the VBR option in the tool no OPV selected. And i had no undersize nor oversize problems this time and the Quality is SUPERB something i couldnt achieve without optimizing the files to get the full pottential out of CCE sp. So, uve got my gratitude robot1 :thanks:
urs kab,
djan
12th August 2005, 01:32
I'm verry happy about the program too, it's really useful. but I would like to know something about CCE Settings. If I choose a different matrix, will it be used on my encodes when I'm not using DVD-RB pro ?
robot1
12th August 2005, 16:22
I'm glad it solves your issues.
@djan
RB-Opt allows to chose a different matrix even if you're using DVD-RB free.
Anyway, I suggest you to donate to jdobbs and upgrade to the pro...
djan
13th August 2005, 04:26
I'll donate it's sure, I wanted to do it long time ago but couldn't because paypal problem but now I know there is another way.
A question, how does CCE know what matrix to use ? It's not in the avs file, so where is it set ?
robot1
13th August 2005, 08:02
The matrices to use are stored in the rebuilder.ecl
robot1
20th August 2005, 20:14
New version:
RB-Opt v0.21 (http://rapidshare.de/files/4189079/RB-Optv0.21.zip.html)
Changelog:
Fixed a bug in OPV with low Q values, to prevent very undersized or oversized results.
New style in Windows XP
Thanks to djan for bugreport and testing this new version.
Zyphon
20th August 2005, 22:19
@robot1
Hi Mich,
I have just tested the latest 0.21 RB-Opt with the latest Pro DVD-RB and I am very pleased with the results.
I used my Aliens DVD a nice simple movie to backup and the Prediction is near on perfect.
I joined all the VOB-IDs of the VTS 1 which contained all the extras and used VBR for that and I merged 2 VOB-IDs in VTS 2 which contained both the movie streams.
I checked it in ImgToolBurn and it is near on perfect. I have not come across any bugs yet I shall do some more tests with other titles.
Great work Mich, keep up the good work. :D
djan
21st August 2005, 04:41
Very thx Mich for this new release that solved my problem.
Rippraff
26th September 2005, 10:49
@robot1
Sorry if this was mentioned before, but is 0.21 able to handle ILVU-Disks like DVD-RB Pro does or is it still on the to-do-list after the final release of DVD-RB is out?
Cu Rippraff
robot1
26th September 2005, 16:26
RB-Opt v0.21 should handle ILVU disks.
There are some limitations (ex. you can't preview ILVU cells, or encode them with OPV), but it should work well if you have to change other settings, or if you have to tweak non ILVU cells in the disk.
Rippraff
26th September 2005, 19:12
Nice to hear, thanks for the reply. :)
Cu Rippraff
alfixdvd
6th October 2005, 18:23
Impossible to download from free rapidshare.
Another link please?
thanks
berndy2001
6th October 2005, 18:26
its working for me?
mirror: http://wtf.at/stuff/RB-Optv0.21.zip
Rippraff
6th October 2005, 18:28
Here's another (http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=24) one, IMHO the first choice to look. ;)
Cu Rippraff
berndy2001
6th October 2005, 18:30
nice try ;)
its linking to rapidshare.
Rippraff
6th October 2005, 18:38
Ooops :o seems Rockas changed that. ;)
@alfixdvd
You have to take the free button.
Cu Rippraff
alfixdvd
6th October 2005, 19:07
Thanks berndy2001 link works.
With free of rapidshare is impossible to download( it could be because I'm behind a proxy with much users).
FredThompson
21st October 2005, 17:33
Plese remove CCE dependence. OPV is an option, not a requirement.
Boulder
21st October 2005, 17:44
Plese remove CCE dependence. OPV is an option, not a requirement.
What do you mean by that?
FredThompson
21st October 2005, 18:36
Just what I typed. Set the encoder to HC. Load RB-Opt. Enable OPV, disable it (VBR) then watch RB-Opt pop up the OPV menu which wants to know where CCE exists before it will save modified settings. Happens each time after that. Can't save the settings unless you point to CCE.
robot1
21st October 2005, 19:18
Ok, I will disable the setting in HC mode.
FredThompson
21st October 2005, 19:34
It's odd. One computer works just fine, 2 others have that pop-up. Is OPV a CCE-specific thing? If so, it should only be available if the encoder is CCE.
Another thing you might want to look into is proper loading fo custom matrices for HC. DVD-RB doesn't seem to be doing it properly. I chose custom matrices but the MPEG default is used by HC.
edit: Hmm...even that seems odd. I've got one box running a custom matrix, the others refuse. Maybe the phase I must be done with the custom matrix selected. Very odd.
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