RB-Opt v0.23 BETA a tool to change titles bitrate, CCE parameters and AVS scripts.

[techdude]

Thanks so much robot1 RB-Opt v0.8 beta works great rebuilder Version 0.50a i just did a backup of face/off dvd with CCE SP 2.66 and tweaked the extra tralier to a bitrate of 1800 and the end credits of the movie to 2016. with 5 passes movie got a bitrate of 4016 quality is Awesome. thanks again for thinking about us tweakers.:D

[robot1]

CCE handles well end credits also at a bitrate of 1000-1200 (unless you're very much interested in reading them!).

@Clydefrog
It's an option I can implement.
Anyway, in my experience, if you don't change CCETargetsectors in Rebuilder.ini, you'll never get oversized results.

[ClydeFrog]

i really dont know why this special disc gets oversized every time by 100MB, but it does :(
its my personal project of kill bill uncut, jap version with german ac3 and subs. plus the german menu and a nice intro from the jap disc and the english making-of.
pretty sweet result, but oversized ;)
i cant prog in any common language, but i'm expert in mirc scripting(:D), so i did it with a nice mirc script :P

[Fr4nz]

Originally posted by robot1
@Clydefrog
It's an option I can implement.
Anyway, in my experience, if you don't change CCETargetsectors in Rebuilder.ini, you'll never get oversized results. [/B]

Well, IMHO the default setting is too conservative because it leaves ~40-60Megs of space free on the DVD. So it could be useful an option that permits you to modify the overall bitrate.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Fr4nz
Well, IMHO the default setting is too conservative because it leaves ~40-60Megs of space free on the DVD. So it could be useful an option that permits you to modify the overall bitrate. If you are off by 40M that means you have filled the disc to within 8/1000ths of capacity... do you think you may be splitting the hair a little here? Just how accurate is accurate enough?

[Fr4nz]

Originally posted by jdobbs
If you are off by 40M that means you have filled the disc to within 8/1000ths of capacity... do you think you may be splitting the hair a little here? Just how accurate is accurate enough?

Well we are speaking about personal tastes ;)

[Joergen]

40MB might be something if you think it's an extra animation or menu, but it's nothing spread across the movie, just a decimal in a number.

Cant you think of something to fill that little space with? Have you thought of what happens if your dog chews through the original? Put some 800dpi scans of the covers on the backup and sleep better ;)

[robot1]

A new beta:
download RB-Opt v0.8a (http://www.freewebs.com/robot1/RB-Optv0.8a.zip) (right click -> save target as)
Fixed bug reported by Joergen and (I hope) the small one reported by Fr4nz.

@Fr4nz
Please, report results with this version.

[dave88]

Your Download is not working for me, I get "your current security settings do not allow this file to be downloaded" I reset my security to the lowest possible setting (temporarily) and still no go, I have never had this problem before :confused:

I really wanted to try it out :(

[robot1]

If someone can help hosting...

@dave88
In page 4 there is a working link to RBOpt v0.8 by Joergen).
Which browser are you using? I can download with Explorer and with Mozilla, default options.

[dave88]

The pg4 link works fine for me, not sure what the problem is with the other :confused:

I'm using IE6 and like I say I tried setting security to low.

Anyway, Thanks for the cool tool

[robot1]

Here is another link to RBOpt v0.8a (http://www.adrianhensler.com/dvd-rb/RB-Optv0.8a.zip)

Edit:
Mirror is by adrianhensler.
@adrianhensler
Thanks (I couldn't send you neither a PM nor an email...)

[dave88]

Works Great, Thanks!

[robot1]

New version.
Download here (http://www.freewebs.com/robot1/RB-Optv0.9.zip) (right click -> save target as).
If anyone can host on another server, PM me or post the new host (someone reports problem with my current server).

Changes:
Much improved avs editing:
- Added Favourites filters for faster avs editing
- Add remove line options (warning! only for experts!)
Global options to set a different target size (from 95% to 105%)
Original files by DVD-RB are now kept with a different extension, and it's possible to restore them all.
Bitrate control now works as should (thanks to Fr4nz for reports).
Add support to CCE Basic filters

RB-Opt works with the newest DVD-RB 0.51.
Anyway, if you select "Steal Space from Extras" the Reduction % is wrong (I think Rebuilder calculate reduction % after stealing. If jdobbs could change that, having in account the space stolen ...)

[Joergen]

mirror: RB-Optv0.9.zip (http://koti.mbnet.fi/haupt/RB-Optv0.9.zip)

[robot1]

Thanks for the mirror.

@all
I'll be one week off, so don't worry if I'll not reply to all bug reports and requests soon.
When I'll be back, I'll read all the messages.

[Fr4nz]

robot your proggie seems to work correctly now! Good job :)

[robot1]

Originally posted by Fr4nz
robot your proggie seems to work correctly now! Good job :) :) Thanks for the help in finding bugs!

[eggchen]

I'm using the latest version of DVD-RB (51b) and just tried RB-Opt for the first time (0.9). After linking then tweaking the end credit cell, saving the changes, and then encoding in DVD-RB, I get a No File is Specified error.

I tried it several times.

Has anyone else come across this?

Thanks.


... this is not happening in version 0.8a.

[Fr4nz]

Same thing here :(

[robot1]

I'll post in a few hours a bugfixed version.
Thanks for reports.

[robot1]

Changes:
Fixed a bug with CCE 2.50 showing a "No File is Specified" error (thanks to eggchen and Fr4nz).
Fixed a bug in .avs editing: lenght of lines to add was limited to few chars (found by THR on doom9.de forum)
Download (http://www.freewebs.com/robot1/RB-Optv0.9a.zip) (right click -> save as)
As always, a mirror would be very appreciated, as someone reports problem in dowloading from my site.

[eggchen]

Robot1,

Just noticed the post. I'm trying it now. So far, so good.

Thanks for the excellent work.:D

[The eDealer]

Hi robot1,
sorry, i also have the download problems with the right click, don't know why. The mirror is perfect, but the new version isn't linked to a mirror. :(
Can you send the new version (0.9a) via mail to me, than i can mirror it at the german doom9 Settings Thread of the RB Opt. (http://forum.gleitz.info/showthread.php?t=13041) ?

[robot1]

Working Mirror (forum.gleitz.info) (http://forum.gleitz.info/attachment.php?attachmentid=67050)
Thanks to eDealer and the german doom9 forum.

[TRALALA]

Hi guys,

I think that it would be interesting to add in "CCE Setting" to change BIAS.I change it for the extras with very low bitrate, for example.

bye :thanks:

[Paced]

Thanks for the great work robot1 - the 'remove line' option is awesome :D Keep up the good work.

[robot1]

Originally posted by Paced
Thanks for the great work robot1 - the 'remove line' option is awesome :D Keep up the good work. :)
I always try to insert in the program a good suggestion.

@TRALALA
You'll find it in next version (I think in the week-end, 'couse I'm busy now...)

[robot1]

A set of Matrices for CCE, by our German friends:
Matrices in RB-Opt (http://forum.gleitz.info/attachment.php?attachmentid=67057)
Thanks to eDealer

[The eDealer]

New Link for the Matrices Collection 0.2 (http://forum.gleitz.info/attachment.php?attachmentid=67104), now with english informations about each matrix.

EDIT: i have included the bach1 by ddogg matrix.

[TRALALA]

Matriz BACH1 (by DDogg), for bitrate ultra low (around 1000):


08 16 19 22 26 27 29 34
16 16 22 24 27 29 34 37
19 22 26 27 29 34 34 38
22 22 26 27 29 34 37 40
22 26 27 29 32 35 40 48
26 27 29 32 35 40 48 58
26 27 29 34 38 46 56 69
27 29 35 38 46 56 69 83
16 18 20 22 24 26 28 30
18 20 22 24 26 28 30 32
20 22 24 26 28 30 32 34
22 24 26 30 32 32 34 36
24 26 28 32 34 34 36 38
26 28 30 32 34 36 38 40
28 30 32 34 36 38 42 42
30 32 34 36 38 40 42 44

I use it for extras Half D1 & Half space for example.

@robot1: THANKS :D

[The eDealer]

@Tralala,
with GOP 12 or 15??
DC 8 ?
QC 24 ?

[robot1]

I always use GOP 15.
It's dvd standard, and allows better compression.
Had no problem, till now.

@Tralala and eDealer
Thanks for the matrices. I'll insert them all in next build.

[TRALALA]

with GOP 12 or 15??
DC 8 ?
QC 24 ?
I usually use 15 for CVD/SVCD and 12 for DVD.
After reading robot1, I doubted which GOP to assign to the extras. Really with 15 the compression is better.

Finally:
DC 10 (normally, like the source)
QC 24
GOP 15 (better compression)


Regards, :D

[The eDealer]

For me, the extras (1/2D1 & 1/2 BR) need to be handeld like SVCD/VCD, so I use:
GOP 15 (for better compression)
DC 8 (like SVCDs)
QC 20

nice to know your way :)

[robot1]

Changes:
Full CCE SP filters support
CCE Min/max bitrate option included
CCE SP 2.67 BIAS support
CCE Basic 2.69 "Quantization characteristics" support (it should works as soon as Jdobbs support it in DVD-RB)
In avisynth editing, preview of both original and modified cell
Fixed a bug in Tweak Cell
Other small changes.

Download here (http://www.freewebs.com/robot1/RB-Optv0.10.zip) (right click -> save target as)

Edit:
Mirror (http://forum.gleitz.info/attachment.php?attachmentid=67142)

[TRALALA]

WOW, robot1 great work with "CCE Setting." :eek:

Although I have a problem, when I insert a max/min bitrate, the button OK is disabled. :confused:

Regards :D

[robot1]

Originally posted by TRALALA

Although I have a problem, when I insert a max/min bitrate, the button OK is disabled. :confused: The button OK is enabled as soon as the textbox loose the focus (ex: click on a radio button of DC Precision... , or just use tab after editing the bitrate)

[dvdRENEGADE]

bump

[robot1]

Any feedback?
Nobody reports anymore... so I think it's stable enough (and there is nothing more to tweak...)
In the weekend I'll post a small update.

[cmsoliveira]

Hi,

first of all, great app. Very usefull and easy to use.

I only would like to make a small request...

Is it possible to show the size of the dvd when we tweak it?
Example: I needed to oversize a dvd, in order to later compress the menu with dvdshrink (is better after because sometimes dvd-rb doesn't like "touched" source), but for that i really need to know how much am i going to oversize, hence, show the size of the tweaked dvd.

Hope u undersatnd, my english is not that good :)

Cya

[robot1]

Originally posted by cmsoliveira
Is it possible to show the size of the dvd when we tweak it?
There is a problem: Rebuilder doesn't save in extern files the size of the menus (and other Vob's not encoded) and the size of audio streams. So it's impossible without analizing the dvd-source, and I think it's too much difficult for me. :(

[cmsoliveira]

Well, then i guess i'll have to continue with my trial and error method:(

Anyway, great app you have there, and for me , with dvd-Rb is a must-have.

Many thnx

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by robot1
There is a problem: Rebuilder doesn't save in extern files the size of the menus (and other Vob's not encoded) and the size of audio streams. So it's impossible without analizing the dvd-source, and I think it's too much difficult for me. :( I collect that information anyway. If you'd like I can write it to the rebuilder.inf file.

[fugit10]

were you suppose to open rebuilder.ini after u press prepare or after u press encode? cause i did it after preparation was done which showed only one vts file and when i did it after i pressed the encode was done and then i saw many more vts menus. I did the bittrate changes and stuff then but i'm not sure if there was a change done. another question I had was that am i suppose to click dynamicall assign cell bittrates in order for me to use the full space of the dvd? my last question is how can I lower the bittrate for the menus? I was able to change it for the extras but not the menus.

[robot1]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I collect that information anyway. If you'd like I can write it to the rebuilder.inf file. Yes, it would be great! Thanks.

[robot1]

Originally posted by fugit10
were you suppose to open rebuilder.ini after u press prepare or after u press encode? cause i did it after preparation was done which showed only one vts file and when i did it after i pressed the encode was done and then i saw many more vts menus. I did the bittrate changes and stuff then but i'm not sure if there was a change done.
You should open rebuilder.ini after running the prepare step in dvd-rb. RB-Opt changes the parameters used during the encode step. So, any changes made after the encode are not useful (or you should encode again).
Anyway you should find the same VTS numbers before and after encode. Did you uncheck the "Ignore VOB-ID of insignificant size" the second time?
another question I had was that am i suppose to click dynamicall assign cell bittrates in order for me to use the full space of the dvd? my last question is how can I lower the bittrate for the menus? I was able to change it for the extras but not the menus. DVD-RB doesn't support encoding of menu (till now). As soon as DVD-RB will support menues, also RB-Opt will.

[robot1]

Changelog:
- Display approx. final DVD size (DVD-RB 0.55 and later). This is an estimation, and I need feedback on the results. In my tests it was enough accurate (2-4 MB off)
- Better text box behaviour (now OK button is always enabled)
- Better support for stills (not compressed vbr by DVD-RB 0.53)
- About box with reminder to the DVD-RB thread at doom9 forum (to check for upgrades, ask for help...)

To download: link (http://www.freewebs.com/robot1/RB-Optv0.11.zip) (right click -> save target as)

Hope you find it useful.

[jptheripper]

could you explain the better support for stills part? this is the portion of rb that has been giving me the most problems (crashing cce)

if i run my .inf through rb-opt does it make some changes to do a better encode on stills?

Guess i am just not sure what to do with it.

[robot1]

No, RB-Opt doesn't change the way Rebuilder encodes stills.
From DVD-RB 0.53 stills are encoded CBR at a fixed rate of 6.000 kbit/sec, and many users reported it solved their problems.
The new version of RB-Opt simply doesn't allow to change VBR bitrate for cells which are encoded as CBR (stills).
Hope to have been clear.