ReJig 0.5 Released

[robot1]

@ Nic
as you're working to the reauthoring module, would it possible to insert an option to re-mux a new .m2v into the vob (a la ifoedit) ...
This option in ifoedit is buggy, and in vobedit isn't very simple to use. It wuold be great to remux without demuxing every stream!

[E-Male]

hm, while we're at that:
would your ne code allow to add new subs and/or audio-tracks during the vob-->vob?

[TEB]

Hi, Makira, u mentioned that the Videolan project is using the req. for the same purpose.. didnt know that they used it.. Could be very interresting to see what they did tho this was new to me since i didnt know that they could do anything else than remux from PS to TS..

I would apriciate it immensly if u added VBR - CBR or downscaled VBR with a max bandwith support..

Keep up the intensly good work guys!!

teb

[Nic]

@robot1: Yes, I could do that now, but it may take a while. It's a fiddily thing ;) jdobbs once said he was writing something to do it. Actually putting the m2v in the vobs is easy, getting it perfect is real tricky....

@e-male: Same thing, tricky. But can be done quite easily, would just need a lot of testing.

@amnon82: Is that the Region 2 of POC? I have that at home, so I can test it...What streams were using? (languages/subs etc)

@Makira: Excellent work, I like the brightness control. :) One of the VideoLan developers works with me, ill ask him what they're upto with m2vrequantiser ;)

-Nic

ps
Finished the IFO Parsing code now, so hopefully can start putting all this code into ReJig now...

[TEB]

thx nic!

[Amnon82]

@ Nic, Yes it is the Region 2 Version of Germany. Here are the original IFOs:

http://rj-elektronik.de/avideo/filez/POCIFOSDE.exe

I think this will help You to check if You have the same version.

Here are the troubles I've with this movie:

I want to have the english + german AC3s + english and german + subs.
0xE0, 0x80, 0x81, 0x20, 0x21, 0x22, 0x2B (Streaminfo by rejig)

I used Your version 0.5e for demuxing the m2v,ac3s and subs.
m2v I only demux and reencoded it with QCCE.DE with my modded settings to a DRP 2.2 M2V-file (special Template to get a amazing quality and a less Q value in CCE).
The AC3 delay was always 0.
The count of the subs was in ReJig 12.
In IFOEdit 14. (I think this is one of the troubles)

The first time I muxes the DVD with DVDAuthor I had a M2V-Delay.
The AC3 streams were sync with the subs. So I thought it must be a AC3Delay.

So I demuxed the M2V and the AC3s with DVDDecrypter and checked the AC3 Streams and the original demuxed M2V stream in MPC for sync.

They were sync. Then I checked the M2V and the AC3 streams demuxed by ReJig (IFO Mode) with MPC and they weren't sync. So it wasn't QCCE.DE.

Then I reencoded the M2V-file demuxed by DVDDecrypter in QCCE.DE and checked again of syncness in MPC. This version was sync.

I demuxed the subs with Vob2Sub + SubtoSup and muxed this with ReJig DVDAuthor. I got a sync Video + Audio without subs. I can choose them in MPC but never displayed...

Then I used the subs demuxed by rejig and got a Video + Audio sync with Subdelays on all subs. (They are sync if I muxed them with the reencoded M2V demuxed by rejig, but then I got again the M2V delay...)

Here is the Demuxstreaminfo of DVDDecrypter:
0x20 - Subtitle - English / Normal Captions - [SubPicture 01: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 9854 / PTS: 00:00:29.647 / Delay: 29360ms
0x21 - Subtitle - English / Normal Closed Captions - [SubPicture 02: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 8944 / PTS: 00:00:26.607 / Delay: 26320ms
0x22 - Subtitle - Deutsch / Normal Captions - [SubPicture 03: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 3874 / PTS: 00:00:09.607 / Delay: 9320ms
0x23 - Subtitle - Français / Normal Captions - [SubPicture 04: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 3645 / PTS: 00:00:08.967 / Delay: 8680ms
0x24 - Subtitle - Italiano / Normal Captions - [SubPicture 05: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 3648 / PTS: 00:00:08.967 / Delay: 8680ms
0x25 - Subtitle - Español / Normal Captions - [SubPicture 06: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 3818 / PTS: 00:00:09.407 / Delay: 9120ms
0x26 - Subtitle - Turkish / Normal Captions - [SubPicture 07: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 3533 / PTS: 00:00:08.687 / Delay: 8400ms
0x27 - Subtitle - Deutsch / Normal Director's Comments - [SubPicture 08: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 4318 / PTS: 00:00:10.687 / Delay: 10400ms
0x28 - Subtitle - Turkish / Normal Director's Comments - [SubPicture 09: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 4108 / PTS: 00:00:10.167 / Delay: 9880ms
0x29 - Subtitle - Deutsch / Normal Director's Comments - [SubPicture 10: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 2831 / PTS: 00:00:04.527 / Delay: 4240ms
0x2A - Subtitle - Turkish / Normal Director's Comments - [SubPicture 11: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 2838 / PTS: 00:00:04.527 / Delay: 4240ms
0x2B - Subtitle - Deutsch - [SubPicture 12: Wide/Letterbox] / LBA: 3876 / PTS: 00:00:09.607 / Delay: 9320ms
0x80 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / English / LBA: 2336 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x81 - Audio - AC3 / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / Deutsch / LBA: 2337 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x83 - Audio - AC3 / 1ch / 48kHz / DRC / English - Director's Comments / LBA: 2339 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x84 - Audio - AC3 / 1ch / 48kHz / DRC / English - Alternate Director's Comments / LBA: 2340 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0x8A - Audio - DTS / 6ch / 48kHz / DRC / Deutsch / LBA: 2338 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms
0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 / 720x576 (PAL) / 16:9 / Letterboxed / LBA: 2328 / PTS: 00:00:00.287 / Delay: 0ms

I think I try to mux now the subs created by sub2sup with the M2V and AC3s demuxed by DVDDecrypter in IFOEdit to see what append. I'll post the result in a new post...

Can You add a subdelayfix for such hard movies?

[Amnon82]

Here is the result of multiplexing with IFOEdit 0.96

M2V demuxed by DVDDecrypter, reencoded by QCCE.DE (http://rj-elektronik.de/avideo/files/QCCE.DE101RC1.EXE)
AC3 streams demuxed by DVDDecrypter
Subs demuxed by Vobsub + SubtoSup

Result image by IFOEdit (http://rj-elektronik.de/avideo/images/POCFD.jpg)

I got framedrops and not working VOBs without ifos.
If I use the demuxed subs by rejig I got subdelays.
How can I convert the demuxed subs by DVDDecrypter to SUPs or get rid of the subdelays of the subs by rejig?

BTW: this is the guide I created by authoring POC:

http://rj-elektronik.de/avideo/main.php?set=drp22guide

[TEB]

just a fast question: I see on Windows Task manager that rejig 5e never uses more than 5-30% cpu time and the rest is free on my pc.
Its a 3ghz P4 800mhz fsb with hyperthreading turned on. How can i get it to use a high % of the cpu's cycles in the system?
Most other encoders tend to use 100%.
Is it that IO bound? I only got a 7200rpm ide drive that its sitting on...

best regards teb

[Nic]

@ammon82: At present the Sup files have the a PTS stored in them that is in relation to the M2V File. If you re-encode with CCE then the PTSs will change and the SUP will not match...Hmmm, tricky to fix without breaking the SUP format (I'd use an offset that is in relation to the first PTS...but even that proves difficult because PTSs reset, etc at any time)

@TEB: Yup, it has to do so much disk accessing, that the processor usage stays very low for the main part. Even my new code, has v.low usage, maybe i'll try optimising it to use more CPU speed as it might help....

-Nic

[TEB]

Can u make it use more memory to increase the read cache and write cache? Like read larger parts of the source file in advance and write larger parts of the file in the same chunck to reduce IO overhead through the movement on the HDD heads..

[Nic]

@TEB: That doesn't always create a faster process. infact it can seriously slow it down on windows....I wrote some code to find the size of an M2V in a VOB. It read large amounts in, then processed it, then read again. This was a lot slower than reading a little bit processing then reading another little bit....

What Im trying to do now is split my new code into two threads, one that reads and transcodes the other that writes...

-Nic

[Amnon82]

@Nic:

The last conversations were:

Blue Crush - no problems
Daddy Day Care - no problems
Panic Room - no problems
Tears of the Sun - no problems

And Pirates of the Caribian - M2V delay, AC3 Delay, Sub delays

So I think it is cos of the source.
All other movies I done before had only one or 2 PGCs.
POC has 20 PGCs.
So I let the source DVD Image on my HDD and the encoded M2V and AC3s and wait with this movie till Your next version is out.

Today I can demux it with DVDDecrypter into subs, but which programm can resync them and convert them to SUPs? Or should I rip the subs with SupRip to srt and convert them then to SUPs?

What will be the easiest way to crack this 'hard-nut-film'?

[TCmullet]

Originally posted by TCmullet
@Nic: Could you please clear this up-- Does 0.5e have the updated "new" engine that Makira fixed apparently on 12-29?I hope that when you upgrade 0.5e to 0.5f, that with all the many other changes you're making, that you remember to include the new engine. For me, this will be the only reason to upgrade to 0.5f, as rejiging .m2v files is all I can do right now. (Still don't have DVDs or a player.) But I still stand by my statement that it's better to wait a bit longer for a bug-free engine than to release one and have it crash or damage the .m2v output. (My HD isn't full yet!) :)

[robot1]

Originally posted by Nic
@robot1: Yes, I could do that now, but it may take a while. It's a fiddily thing ;) jdobbs once said he was writing something to do it. Actually putting the m2v in the vobs is easy, getting it perfect is real tricky....

@e-male: Same thing, tricky. But can be done quite easily, would just need a lot of testing.


If you need testing ... you're welcome.

[Amnon82]

This is strange!

If I rip form a DVDDecrypter.ISO I got 0ms in all AC3s.
If I rip it instead directly form the DVD I got -480ms in all AC3s...

Whats going on? It is the classicer Reindeer Games btw...

What also strange is, that I can select the only german sub on the disc but rejig dosn't rip it... ... finaly I got a m2p-file... why? M2V was it and it becomes a m2p with 0 mb... I think it cos of the sub...

Also I don't understand why rejig fixes 0ms AC3streams? It is not necessary... can You, nic, add a routine to check if 0ms is present and skip then AC3 Delay correction also when activated in the ripmode.


[EDIT] ... it was the sub-file. If I don't select the sub I got a m2v...

[Amnon82]

I found something out about POC German DVD.
The IFO VTS_01_0.IFO has 58 PGCs and the Subs have also this 58 PGCs!!!
I extracted the subs with VOBEdit and found this out.

Now I ripped the SUBs with VobSub again and stripped the wanted subs out with VOBSubStrip. Lets see what now happend...

... I got it somehow ... Nice rejig! this app rocks POC. Now it is all sync

[TEB]

Anyone noticed that some of the rejigged .m2v files there are errors in the slice-layer. Ive got some STB's that "stutters" during movement. I cant get this to fail on a pc player... But i guess the STB's are more sensitive to faults in the stream. Any idea?

And another thing i saw, i had a 4gb 1hour 25minute clip of LOTR2se, did a rejig 70% of the .m2v and now i have a 3gb 55minute clip? what happened to the timestamps? It seems that the whole movie is there but the timestamps is tottally frekay... It fools the mpeg2 player im using... (elecard 2.2)

Another thing, ive tested the IO performance now in rejig. Im rejigging from 1 Raid 0 volume to my other ide disk on my pc (dual xeon 2.4ghz HT) and i still only use like 10% of the total capacity (cpu wize) and i can see that rejig is writing around 3megs per sec to the ide drive.. It can easily write 15megs to it per sec when i do a normal copy... Like when i use dvdshrink to the same drive i get like 4-5 times more speed...
Whats holding up Rejig? Any idea Nic?


best regards teb

[unixfs]

I have the same stuttering problem, and sometimes the top stripe of the video seems to missing or shifted to the right; not only in hardware players:
mplayer complains of missing MVs and more when you play
the resulting m2v with -vc ffmpeg12

[Nic]

@TEB: Which mode are you using ReJig in to get such slow speeds?

I have noticed the TimeStamp thing before, but can't figure where the problem is yet...Ill look into that. Still working on the VOB->VOB code, want it glitch free. Very close to being ready though.

@unixfs: What kind of files are you transcoding?

-Nic

[unixfs]

I'm transcoding DVB captures (mpeg-ts).
The original ones play correctly with -vc ffmpeg12, but I'm
using Makira's last version of m2vrequant under linux (sorry for
having forgotten to mention it).

[Nic]

"original ones" ? Do you mean the original DVB MPEG-2? Does the same problem occur when using the "old engine" of ReJig?

[dragongodz]

"what happened to the timestamps?"
TEB can you load the original ifo in to something like ifoedit and see if there are any layer breaks or look through the cell entries for discontinuites. these can be where the timestamps are set back to 0 which could(i repeast, could) be part of the problem.

[unixfs]

Originally posted by Nic
"original ones" ? Do you mean the original DVB MPEG-2?

yes

Does the same problem occur when using the "old engine" of ReJig?

I haven't tested it for a while, I'll try tonight or tomorrow.

[TEB]

Nic: filemode, 1pass at 70% recompress job..
I see that on my 3ghz p4 HT at work it uses a much higher % of the cpu, but not that much more when i move to different source and destination drives... Im really curious about that... Should really help alot splitting up reads and writes.. any idea?
Dragon: I havent used ifoedit yet.. Ill look into it and check. I can take a chunk of the ftp and put it on a ftp for u to look at guys..

[biggy7]

having read the good reports about rejig, i decided to have a go.

was doing a dvd movie, got through all the processes and was on demuxing subs, then crashed :( had to close it. This happened to anyone else?

[E-Male]

quick question:
in what format do i have to enter the chapters when authoring?

[Amnon82]

@E-Male: In frames. In Chapter-X-tractor it will be

%f \n

Enter this in 'Format' into the field 'Format:'.

And delete the first 0 Frame Chapter.

[dragongodz]

TEB - since Nic said he has come across this aswell he may want to check it out aswell. i am of course asuming Nic knows how to find layer breaks and discontinuities with ifoedit(no Nic please dont hit me :) ).
if you want to look though then load the relevant ifo and open the VTS_PGCITI and the contained link VTS_PGC_1 (asuming the movie is the first). in the bottom window scroll down to the cell playback. the first cell always has STC discontinuity as YES. see if any of the other cells do aswell. if yes then add all the playback times for the cells up to that and see if that equells the short time.

[TomSem]

Hi ,
First Rejig rocks , very fast and good quality,
Now i'm backup poc and the multiplexed movie shows
stutters every 2-3 seconds during the whole movie.
I 've had this problem before with narc.
Both poc and narc are interlaced ( bitrateviewer ).
So my conclusion is that rejig can not handle interlaced sources.
Or am i doing someting wrong ?
Tis is my process : smartripper -> rejig -> ifoedit author
Any help ?

[Nic]

ifoedit author ? Why not use ReJig's DVD Author ? Are you having problems with it? (Apart from it being slow ;) )
Are your Narc and POC NTSC? IFOEdit's Author doesn't like NTSC.

@biggy7: Sorry you had a bad time with ReJig. With luck 0.6 shouldn't be far away and far quicker and less buggy than previous versions...please try again then and hopefully it will be better for you..

-Nic

[TCmullet]

@Nic, I'm puzzled you don't have 0.5f out 1st, then start working on .6 and .7. Don't most software authors release one version before starting to work on the next? (I used to myself when I had a job as a programmer.) Forgive me, but I'm drooling for that "new" new engine for my overweight .m2v files. :)

[Nic]

That is true, but it seems silly to release a 0.5f when their are bugs in 0.5e that need fixing. I'd rather fix them and release them as 0.5f than a bug ridden one with the new engine...

[DMagic1]

Hey all,
I been folowing this since the first qui was made for it. Because of a shortage of time, I fell behind on a lot of the improvements and bugs/problems.

I just did a movie only of Alien Resurrection Special Edition. The quality seemed great. I didn't notice some picture problems that I see with both CloneDVD and a little with DVD95Copy.

There are two problems I notice with Rejig.
1. I selected the standard size but my movie came out to be 4,295,000bytes or what ever. Almost 400mb short.
2. All chapters after the first 2 were off by a couple of seconds.

If this has been talked about before pardon me. I fell a little behind 6 or 7 pages back.

[Nic]

@DMagic: Thanks for the bug report. Hopefully the new version will fix the filesize issues. I still get the odd undersized file...but this may be due to the old engine. testing on the new engine will begin soon.

Ive changed the way chapters are added and now it's frame accurate (rather than based on a time). Thanks to Vapor ill be able to test NTSC DVDs too so ill make sure that's 100% for the next version.

-Nic

[Amnon82]

Nice to hear that You now can test NTSCs.
Nic you do great job with rejig. 0.6 must be a great version, I can't wait...
I check every day if you've released a new version (k, not every day...). When is it possible to add more than one title with Your DVDAuthor? For IFOEdit it was planed but till not released with this feature. Nic Your DVDAuthor is the only one in the freeware scene who handles DTS. I had many problems with IFOEdit trying to add DTS streams. So I used Your DVDAuthor since.

I've noticed that I had some picture hangs (sometimes the moviepart speeds up or slow down). I think this will never happend with the transcoded M2V. I encode my M2Vs new with QCCE. So I think I'm almost the only one here in this thread who tests Your DVDAuthor with M2Vs encoded by CCE 2.67.00.23.

This speed ups and slow downs are almost at chapterpoints. I encode now a movie again with I-frames at the chapterpoints. So I'll test if this hangs came up again add tell you the result in the next reply here.

[Amnon82]

AppName: rejig.exe AppVer: 0.3.0.0 ModName: rejig.exe
ModVer: 0.3.0.0 Offset: 000b79b5

was the errormessage. I tried it twice and it happed exactly at the same positon in the submux-step.
Maybe it was cos of sups created by VOBSUB + SUB2SUP.

IfoEdit muxed the DVD without a error...

btw it was Devils Advocate.

..hope the next DVDAuthor version will fix this...

[E-Male]

i got a problem which is either caused by rejig dvd author or vobedit

but i have to start a lil more early
i'm experimenting with backing up series, in this case futurama

1. i ripped 3 episodes (the first 2 and a random one from disc 2)
2. with vobedit i changed the ID of the 3rd episode to be sure the 3 episodes hav the IDs 1, 2 & 3, in thw right order
3. i renamed the 3 vobs to be the 3 parts of one vts (and added the original ifo to teh folder)
4.i used the remux/strip-stream-feature of ifoedit to recreate them as correct 1GB vobs

now i have the 3 episodes as one dvdr, everythign workign fine, but the chapters are not right, i want them to be one chapter per episode

a) so i demuxed the vobs wiht vobedit
b) and remuxed them with rejig dvd author, copying sub-colors from the original and using selfmade chapters

but the result had one big error:
all subs are in episode one (and none in 2 and 3)

now this is either caused in step a) or b)

any ideas?
if not consider it a bug-report
but i really don't know if it's vobedit or rejig

CU
E-Male

[Nic]

Hmmmm....problem due to the PTS values not being continuous....and hence confuses SUPMux...

IFOEdit has a bit that supposedly can correct PTSs (in the VOB Extras bit)...But it's never worked for me...

Ill look into this..

-Nic

[maa]

Question:

Is rejig dvd author taken from IfoEdit - it looks the same.
I'm having DTS trouble so is the muxing engine the same or not?
(Would save me some experimental time)

thanks

maa

[TCmullet]

Originally posted by TC @Nic, I'm puzzled you don't have 0.5f out 1st, then start working on .6 and .7. Don't most software authors release one version before starting to work on the next?Originally posted by Nic
That is true, but it seems silly to release a 0.5f when there are bugs in 0.5e that need fixing. I'd rather fix them and release them as 0.5f than a bug ridden one with the new engine...Of course. :) But I wasn't suggesting release .5f with bugs, but rather why not finish debugging and releasing .5f (w/new engine) before working on .6 or .7 at all? Don't misunderstand; I'm not trying to pressure you-- I just don't understand why the 3 versions would be worked on in parallel. (You can do whatever you want--you're the programmer!)

[Nic]

@maa: No, it's just made to look the same. I have no eye for presentation...at work I leave that to the designer (the same guy who drew the splash image in rejig)

@TC: Ahhh, because 0.6 will mean I can get rid of some code and means other code can change. For example, because of the code i've written in 0.6, dvdauthor mode no longer has to create one big vob and then create the split up vobs. It can now create the vobs in 1gb chunks and IFOs made out of them...
But the main reason is I want ReJig useable by anyone for DVD backup, and 0.5 just isn't...it's got too many bugs & is too slow for most people. 0.6 can backup a DVD on win2k/xp/win9x without any real bugs or desync etc and very quickly too....
But as you say the real main reason is: "You can do whatever you want--you're the programmer!)" ;)

-Nic

ps
Just an update:
Tried ripping Pirates of the Carribean (R2) and with 0.6 it worked fine. However when burnt to DVD it played fine in my yamada DVD player, but had troubles seeking in my sisters toshiba. So ill look into that...but apart from that all flawless (subs and all)

[TCmullet]

@Nic: Then it sounds like .5f should not be done, and that 0.6a will be the next release. Hope it comes soon... Soon as the new engine can be tested to your satisfaction.

[Amnon82]

Nice to hear about 0.6, nic. Can't wait for it...:D

[Pfc Joker]

@Nic......You know I saw this thread go up but never looked into it because I've been so heavy into Scenarist CCE stuff lately. Especially DoItFastForU 1.4.4, why didn't somebody tell me it's a transcoder. ;)

Anyway, it's comparo time now. Can't wait for the .6 version, I know I'm a little late but thanks for the new toy Nic!

Edit-I've used ReJig on a couple of movies now with the DVD Backup mode, the output is undersized but you get out what you put in. For example; "The Grinch" is a 7.64 gb disc but the main movie part is only 4.05 gb of the whole.

[TomSem]

One of them is POC RII and Narc RII.
The new engine crash in the middle of POC
The old engine shows skipping every 3 seconds
on some players and other players can't do FF or REW.
So i 'll rebackup Spirited Away RII again to see if Rejig realy has problems with interlaced DVD's.

[Nic]

Thanks for the report TomSem. Hopefully the new DVD Backup mode will remove all these problems. And the newest engine will hopefully not crashed. I had FF/RW problems with POC, but I think I've fixed them now...ill be testing tonight.

@all:
I'm thinking of removing IFO mode from the next release. So it will just be File Mode, DVD Backup (for Movie Only backups) and DVD Author. It means less work for me and I think those are the main points. If I can get them bug free then I think ReJig will at a good state and then then 0.7 will copy whole DVDs, etc.

-Nic

[maa]

Can something be done about the FAT32 limit when Demuxing ?
I think thats the reason my backups have been cut short and DVDAuthor didn't even start....

[Nic]

@maa: That's a bit tricky, I haven't begun work on that yet, but I will. That's all fixed for DVD Backup mode but not for DVD Author mode yet. Just the M2V file itself is going to be larger than the FAT32 boundary...supporting old FAT32 is a bit of a nightmare but ill look into it.

[maa]

Surely if you break it into 2 Giga chunks and alow DVDAuthor to accept/join more than one file it should work ?

[Nic]

Yeah, I know, but none of the GPL code I use expects multiple files (i.e dvdauthor, mplex, etc), so I have to go in and change it all just because some people insist in living in the dark ages with FAT32 ;) lol

But I will get round to it :)

-Nic