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waldok
4th February 2003, 00:56
Antonio, you never ever buy a movie, but indeed a copy of the movie. Buying a movie would mean paying for every right of use on this movie, an dbecoming the intellectual proprietor, which I doubt you or me can afford. This is about intellectual property and so on.
If you buy a VHS, you entitle yourself to watch it for private use only, and in some countries to make a backup copy of it. In no case could you be entitled to duplicate any other support presenting this movie. If this was true, you could also go to the theater and use your camcorder to tape a movie you already own on VHS. I doubt they'd let you proceed.
Buying a movie on a VHS support doesn't give you any right to pirate the DVD version, since it is another product, with other features, and not even published by the same editor as the VHS most of the times.
(Pity is that these days, you are not even allowed to make your own backups, but that's another story.) I don't like all these restrictions, but that's the way it goes.
If your brand new VHS copy is damaged, you go change it where you bought it without any problem. If your VHS is damaged after 2 years, well, you should have made a backup when you bought it, cause you're f***ed...
Anyway, the main point was one cannot show off here about renting 6 movies and copying them in 8 hours and pretending it was only for creating DVDs out of movies already owned on VHS. Emphasizing this kind of behaviour might in the end cause trouble to Doom9 site and forum, considering the current context of "with hunt" as far as digital copy is concerned.
Waldok:cool:
jdobbs
4th February 2003, 04:12
All you DVD2one fans -- look here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44978). I've built a utility for making full backups (with menus and extras) using DVD2one. It's a beta, but let me know what you think.
rinkel
4th February 2003, 16:48
Ok, here's my input.
I've been playing with video for quite some time now, from creating vcd's to authoring home-made movies on DVD. In between i even looked at divx.
I used the CCE method a few times, but found it quite too much time consuming to my liking (because i have other things to do, like making dvd's out of home made movies) So i sticked to rempeg. Because i was used to the svcd/divx quality this was quite a big step when i got my a03 drive.
I really don't think it's fair to compair CCE with dvd2one, it's a complete other ballgame. It would be much more fair to compair it to something like dvdxcopy, if only the pricetag.
I know Derrow is now working on it, but it will cost him a huge amount of time to repair dvdxcopy and make it something we don't laugh at (i know he can), because at this time dvd2one is the absolute winner. But hey, maybe Derrow will start from scratch. (Don't take me wrong, i've huge respect for Derrow !)
I really think this is a start for a new kind of dvd software. There will always be a huge userbase for IfoEdit, but dvd2one will open another group of people on the dvd scene.
I purchased the full version and i must say: for a first version it really rocks !!, i'm suddenly proud to be dutch again ;)
As for future enhancements:
- Emphasis on quality, let people be able to choose, quality or speed.
- User defined size
- 1 to 1 copy, including menus and all
- 1 to 2 copy, 1 disk to 2 dvdr's
Congratulations for this piece of hq coding !!
@doom9
Could there be a seperate chapter from the main forum for this piece of software, because i think it's here to stay, and other forums will then not be poluted with dvd2one stuff.
Rinkel
waldok
4th February 2003, 17:31
Rinkel,
That's a request I made in the suggestion forum to have a soecific place for DVD2one discussions (like there is one for DVD2SVCD).
I also think it would be a good thing.
Waldok:cool:
vljenewein
4th February 2003, 19:05
I agree with the separate forum idea. If you go to http://club.cdfreaks.com/ Their forum has a lot of stuff, but there is one forum dedicated to just DVD2ONE.
How long has this program been out? 1 week?? You must admit that for such a short time out program it has really cause a lot of stir not only in this forum but, in DVD Decrypter forums, Digital Video forum, LavDV forums and others.
We have movies we like to watch more than once. These are nice to back up. We also have an 8 year old that like Shrek, Disney movies, and others, and it's good to not worry about what's happened to the DVD. I took my copy of "Three Dog Night" from her sometime back as there were getting to be a lot of scratches, etc on it, and made a CD copy in Nero and gave her the copy, and put the original in my files. *S* You can encourage them, but sometimes they have friends over that are not the least bit careful.
I have made movie back ups from the old fashioned method doing everything by hand and manual cutting etc to make things fit, and using REMPEG2 to get the VBR resized a bit. Truthfully, the same movie I made with DVD2one is better than the one I fiddles with in REMPEG2. My problem was finding that sweet spot for file, or "FILES" size to fit onto 1 DVD. I ended up overshooting the Variable Bit Rate a bit and the resluting movie is not as good as the one with DVD2ONE. I paid for this program as I feel this is something really useful, and saved me a ton of time. Manually I would burn with -RW and that takes time. Once the resulting burn proved successfull I would re-burn with DVD -R for the final. With DVD2ONE, I just burn, period.
Any clues why the same set of files burned onto a DVD disc with Nero in the VIDEO_TS folder would be different to cause compatible issues? I have not experience this yet, but there have been many, many post to that effect. I always burn in UDF mode in Nero 5.5.10.7 new version. I would think a file is a file, whether you used Nero or Record Now.
avi g
4th February 2003, 23:46
sory
mpeg 2 - OK
mpucoder
5th February 2003, 00:13
One post is enough. I see you've changed your opinion of DVD2One? In your only other posts you claim it is the perfect tool. Or are you warning us that there is a fake version ciculating the web?
BTW, I've looked at the output, and it is MPEG2.
Raedon
5th February 2003, 02:30
Originally posted by waldok
Antonio, you never ever buy a movie, but indeed a copy of the movie. Buying a movie would mean paying for every right of use on this movie, an dbecoming the intellectual proprietor, which I doubt you or me can afford. This is about intellectual property and so on.
If you buy a VHS, you entitle yourself to watch it for private use only, and in some countries to make a backup copy of it. In no case could you be entitled to duplicate any other support presenting this movie. If this was true, you could also go to the theater and use your camcorder to tape a movie you already own on VHS. I doubt they'd let you proceed.
Buying a movie on a VHS support doesn't give you any right to pirate the DVD version, since it is another product, with other features, and not even published by the same editor as the VHS most of the times.
(Pity is that these days, you are not even allowed to make your own backups, but that's another story.) I don't like all these restrictions, but that's the way it goes.
If your brand new VHS copy is damaged, you go change it where you bought it without any problem. If your VHS is damaged after 2 years, well, you should have made a backup when you bought it, cause you're f***ed...
Anyway, the main point was one cannot show off here about renting 6 movies and copying them in 8 hours and pretending it was only for creating DVDs out of movies already owned on VHS. Emphasizing this kind of behaviour might in the end cause trouble to Doom9 site and forum, considering the current context of "with hunt" as far as digital copy is concerned.
Waldok:cool:
Excellent points. I thought i was in the right but my logic was off.
waldok
5th February 2003, 14:22
Pleased to see you got my point here.
Waldok:cool:
wangofree
7th February 2003, 22:27
Has this thread been exhausted yet?
:D WF
Seraphic
10th February 2003, 06:12
Compared to shrinking a movie into 2 cd's with divx and now with my new burner and DVD2one I am truly happy. I used to put up with much worse picture quality and have to wait several hours for it. Now I am saving, time, money ( 1 less DVD blank) and getting close enough to the original. I watch on a HD rear projection 48" widescreen and it looks good to me. I just put all my divx stuff in the trash. Good riddence!
I do agree about making a choice with 3 hour movies and DVDxcopy is my backup alternative in such a case. I am glad I discovered DVD2One.
My congratulations to it's creators ;)
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