Dvd2one [Archive] - Page 4

Jayce

29th January 2003, 15:27

Originally posted by tallboy
Goldfinger_007

I tried for four hours last night and 1 this morning and still can't get through to the download site. Could you email the program?

Thnnks
tallboy

I hope you're asking him to mail the trial version here? Just to make sure we do not tolerate fraud with license key's and we do keep track of downloads!

If you're looking for the trial version, i believe the website should be back up. It seems that most of the attacks problems are over.

Goldfinger_007

29th January 2003, 15:40

To quote myself from the previous page:

just to clear one thing up though, i wasn't offering the software for free, just the prog if you were unable to download it. :)

I have bought this program, and think that its such good value that no-one should want to pirate it.

Raedon

29th January 2003, 15:46

Originally posted by herbapou
Valnar.

I suspect the shimmering problem is NTSC related? Do you used NTSC movies?

The problem doesnt occurs with NTSC animation movies (ToyStory, ...) so you can still use the program in the meantime for those movies...

I also have a problem with subtitles. They autostart when I insert the DVD in the standalone player.

Most Animated movies are under 90 minutes.. the shimmering problem only happens on DVD movies over 6gig. It didn't happen on Lock Stock and two smoking barrels.. but the movie is just barely over 4.8gig.

Jayce

29th January 2003, 15:47

Originally posted by Goldfinger_007
To quote myself from the previous page:

I have bought this program, and think that its such good value that no-one should want to pirate it.

I'am sorry, i must have misread your first message, but i do monitor several boards to give answers and try to fight a bit of the piracy.
At this moment it is quite hard for me to keep up who told what, i hope you understand my mistake :)

Antonio S.

29th January 2003, 15:47

@Jayce:

Do you have any information about when is going to be a new release of DVD2one ?

Regards,

Antonio S.

tallboy

29th January 2003, 15:56

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jayce
[B]I hope you're asking him to mail the trial version here? Just to make sure we do not tolerate fraud with license key's and we do keep track of downloads!

I have paid for the registered version. The only things that seem to work on the web site is the download of the trial version and paying. When I said I tried 4 hours last night I don't mean every 15 minutes. I hit it every 2 minutes for 4 hours. What a waste of my time!

If the web site is REALLY having a DOS attack then they need to contact their ISP. It's costing him money.

Jayce

29th January 2003, 16:23

Originally posted by Antonio S.
@Jayce:

Do you have any information about when is going to be a new release of DVD2one ?

Regards,

Antonio S.

There's going to be a bugfix update as soon as the server troubles are really over.
I'am sorry but that's our main concern right now.

Jayce

29th January 2003, 16:29

Originally posted by tallboy
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jayce
[B]I hope you're asking him to mail the trial version here? Just to make sure we do not tolerate fraud with license key's and we do keep track of downloads!

I have paid for the registered version. The only things that seem to work on the web site is the download of the trial version and paying. When I said I tried 4 hours last night I don't mean every 15 minutes. I hit it every 2 minutes for 4 hours. What a waste of my time!

If the web site is REALLY having a DOS attack then they need to contact their ISP. It's costing him money.

I can understand your anger but the believe me the payment/download site IS really suffering from a dos-attack.
The download site should be up somewhere tomorow.

valnar

29th January 2003, 17:28

That sucks. Most of the movies I want to convert are between 6-7GB. I never reauthor 8GB (full DVD-9) movies because it never looks good.

Robert

Originally posted by Raedon
Most Animated movies are under 90 minutes.. the shimmering problem only happens on DVD movies over 6gig. It didn't happen on Lock Stock and two smoking barrels.. but the movie is just barely over 4.8gig.

DMBFiredn

29th January 2003, 17:49

I used DVD2One to backup my copy of Minority Report and I was more then pleased... I usually use the CCE method, but after seeing the results of DVD2One I'm more then happy with the results...

I did encounter a problem when trying to backup another DVD however, A Gentleman's Game... when i pointed to my input and output, it said that the movie was 00:00:00... i chose this anyway and it didn't work (as expected)... I looked a little more into it, and their were some menus at the start of the VOB set so i just stripped the cell ids with vobedit... loaded the new VOB's up with DVD2One and it still said it was 00:00:00, and didn't work... Therefore i just encoded with CCE and was done with it... This does seem to be some sort of bug though, could be a fairly isolated case though...

Jayce

29th January 2003, 17:50

Originally posted by valnar
That sucks. Most of the movies I want to convert are between 6-7GB. I never reauthor 8GB (full DVD-9) movies because it never looks good.

Robert

DVD2one relies partly on the original encoding so the results WILL BE DIFFERENT on every movie.
So results will differ from movie to movie, the only way to test that is to try it for yourself. Afterall seeing is believing!

Goldfinger_007

29th January 2003, 17:59

DVD2one relies partly on the original encoding so the results WILL BE DIFFERENT on every movie.
So results will differ from movie to movie, the only way to test that is to try it for yourself. Afterall seeing is believing!

and how much time will you waste if it doesn't turn out as you want? only 15-30mins, not a few hours :)

iamcalebyoda

29th January 2003, 18:21

I would just like to say that I love this program:D
I watched "The Bourne Identity" last night on my projector, and I didn't notice any macro blocks or blurring. The picture was fantastic. I'm probably going to use this to back up most my dvds from now on. I was a little afraid that watching the movie on a 122" screen would show the tiny imperfections but it looked excellent!
-Caleb

Rombaldi

29th January 2003, 18:43

Jayce..

I tried out the trial and it looks execellent, but I do more work with other than 'movie only' discs. Sure I am interested in seeing the 'preserve the whole disc' option, but something I would also like to see (file this under 'future enhancements').

I do a lot of recording on a stand-alone DVD-Recorder, capturing multuple episodes of a program to be combined into a multi-episode disc. These record at a fixed bitrate (around 5mb/s). SOMETIMES I would like to be able to shrink down a recorded program by just a bit..

Case in point..

One program I'm working on is coming out at 1.5gb per episode. As of now I can only put 2 eps on a disc (3.gb) since 3 would be too big (4.5gb). HOWEVER if I could feed in the episodes BEFORE AUTHORING to some piece of magic that could reduce the size of the episode by 'x'% then I could take 1.5gb and tell it to shrink it to 95% (or 90% or..) of it's original size, then I could stick 3 eps per disc instead of 2 with (from what I've see) little or no loss in quality.

Can't do this now because DVD2One sees the VTS as two seperate programs. Yes, the 'full disc conversion' would do the trick, but having an option to accept an MPEG2 stream 'as is' without having to attach an IFO structure to it would be simpler (maybe I just need to squeeze down one episode that runs just a little longer) and could do the dirty work before the authoring step.

Dunno if this could be an option, a totally seperate program or... but it would be a VERY USEFUL TOOL for a (possibly) different segment of the market (i know of about 20 people that would buy it just for that).

Please consider it.

SciFer

29th January 2003, 22:09

Jayce, could you please inform us officially when the site is fully functional again. It would save us a lot of fustration
Thanks

stahlbuerste

29th January 2003, 22:35

I wrote this mail to the producer:

Hi Markus,

I have corrected the problem you described. The next release won't have
this problem anymore.

Best regards,
Erwin van den Berg

http://www.dvd2one.com/ - http://www.remoteselector.com/

Lauber wrote:

> Dear Mr. van den Berg,
>
> yesterday I tried to burn my first copy made with your product; the
> source seemed at first to be good (regarded with Power DVD).
> After I burned the source on DVD I could not watch the movie with my
> standalone DVD player. All the other DVDs I've created were no
> problem.
> To read the DVD I tried following programs:
>
> DVD Decrypter in ISO mode and smartripper in file copy mode (I copied
> everything).
>
> With both ways I had the same result; so I put the ifo files in
> ifoedit and I could recognize the following:
>
> VIDEO_TS.IFO of the original DVD:
> MPEG2, PAL, VBR, Camera, 4:3, 720x576
>
> New VIDEO_TS created with dvd2one:
> MPEG1, NTSC, VBR, Camera, 4:3, 720x840, Automatic Pan&Scan, Automatic
> Letterboxed
>
> VTS_01_0.IFO of the original DVD:
> VMGM_MAT Adress 00000100: MPEG2, PAL, VBR, Camera, 4:3, 720x576
> VMGM_MAT Adress 00000200: MPEG2, PAL, VBR, Camera, 16:9, 720x576,
> Automatic Letterboxed
>
> New VTS_01_0.IFO created with dvd2one:
> VMGM_MAT Adress 00000100: MPEG1, NTSC, VBR, Camera, 4:3, 720x480,
> Automatic Pan&Scan, Automatic Letterboxed
> VMGM_MAT Adress 00000200: MPEG2, PAL, VBR, Camera, 16:9, 720x576,
> Automatic Letterboxed
>
> I tried this kind of copy with two different movies and I always had
> the same results.
>
> It is no problem to send you the .ifo files (orginial and new) if you
> want.
>
> Thank you for your answer
>
> Best regards

So I have to wait for the new the version...

mordant

30th January 2003, 01:13

Any updates on being able to purchase this software?

herbapou

30th January 2003, 01:38

I carefully look at the effect and "shifting" would not describe it properly.

Lets imagine you have 2 copy of the same picture in paintshop pro. Take one and apply a blurr filter to it. Then put them one above the other and alternate between them every half second.

So I was wrong when I use the word shifting because there is no shifting (movement) going on. The word Pulsating or Shimmering would better describe it.

So to see if your re-encode has the problem, zoom the movie with your DVD player and look at some part of the screen where there is no movement. You should see the image go sharp/blurr/sharp/blurr/sharp.. every half second or so.

This may explain why some people come up with screenshots of very bad quality output. Because if you take a screenshot of a scene when the image is sharp, you would go "wow this is decent encoding". On the other end, half a sec later, the same scene looks like crap. Then the image is sharp again and so on...

I guess that some people may not be able to detect this, but the rotation occurs about every half second, its pretty slow, so most people should see it.

mordant

30th January 2003, 02:45

I was going to buy this software but couldn't because of the problems at their site...and now it seems that was a good thing.

I tried the trial version on LotR Extended Disc1 and it ran fine through the first 30 minutes. This led me to try and buy the full version. No luck. So, in the meantime I thout I'd see if there was a cracked version. Found one and tried it, but ran into a problem in the second VOB where I got a msg that the file was encrypted and DVD2ONE could not use encrypted files.

I tried ripping with DVDdecrypter in file and ifo mode, and tried Smartripper with the same result. I figured then it might just be a problem with the cracked version and made another attempt to purchase...no luck.

So, I did some searching and found instructions on how you could do 1 VOB at a time, renaming as you went, to do a full DVD with the trial version. Just wanting to see if the software would actually work right with my system I gave this method a try. First VOB went fine. Second VOB got about half way through and then gave the "encrypted" message again.

So, I'm still stuck not really being sure if this software will function for me...and unable to even risk the $40 on the full version.

Frustrating. Anyone else have a similar problem? Is there something I might have done wrong in the ripping?

If it will work for me I fully intend to purchase. Its too bad the authors don't just release the full version on a pay if you find it usefull basis. Then we could share the program with others and I really think they'd do just as well. I think we are all happy to pay for a good piece of software at a decent price...

30th January 2003, 03:41

Dvd2one team,

Good job! this is a nice piece of software for a first release. Can I make a suggestion for future releases. How about adding the ability to decode right off of a DVD disk. Also how about adding burning capabilities in there as well. You put the 2 in there together with the ability to transcode under 20 min and you could theoretically produce on the fly dvd duplicates, at least at 1x.

Anyways back to reality....

I have a question about wether or not the program alters the video stream when it is handling a source that doesn't need recompressing. For example if I rip a set of files to my harddrive that totals lets say 5 gigs. Say I could rip out the unwanted audio tracks, subtitles and angles I dont need which would bring it under the necessary 4.7 to fit on a dvd. If I used Dvd2one to do the stripping would it still recompress the video even though it doesn't have to? I have read conflicting posts saying that it does and doesn't alter the video. My tests show that the video stream would remain unchanged. Can you please confirm wether my tests are inaccurate or not. Thanks!

~Sy

jdobbs

30th January 2003, 04:08

My one wish. Please have a parameter that allows the user to determine the output size. Everything else can wait -- let me set the size and I can backup anything!

wangofree

30th January 2003, 05:14

I'm sure I'll someday enjoy dvd2one, once I'm able to lick the problems I've posted previously, but one interesting thing I discovered, and this being a Newbie might not be much...

As I put my burned "trial" copy of HF Red October in my Sony Table top for the 30th or 40th time using different burners, media etc, I would see the usual 3 "freeze frames" at exactly 9' 15' & 28'. Now this is where is gets interesting...As the picture would freeze up at the 28 minute mark, my dvd player would then cycle through 13 chapters and stop.

So, it starts, I see a second of James Earl Jones, then a second of a submarine, and then a scene of sailors on a submarine, and this last scene freezes for maybe 5-8 seconds. My readout then moves from the first chapter onto each successive one until it reaches 13 and stops.

Well, I'm thinking "This is a trial version of dvd2one, which theoretically is only recording 30' of video, so why is it cycling through these 13 chapters, which is the number of chapters that dvd dycrypter gives me when I rip this movie?" Even though it only encodes the first vob, does it still "see" the 13 chapters in the ifo file?

I wonder if, like Arenavles, perhaps this "freeze frame" problem will be eliminated when I purchase the full version of dvd2one...

p.s. I read in another post that you need an AUDIO_TS directory with your VIDEO_TS directory, even without anything in the audio_ts in order for your stand alone to play...is that really the case?

Looking forward to success!!! WF :rolleyes:

FamousPerson

30th January 2003, 05:18

Originally posted by Sy
I have a question about wether or not the program alters the video stream when it is handling a source that doesn't need recompressing. For example if I rip a set of files to my harddrive that totals lets say 5 gigs. Say I could rip out the unwanted audio tracks, subtitles and angles I dont need which would bring it under the necessary 4.7 to fit on a dvd. If I used Dvd2one to do the stripping would it still recompress the video even though it doesn't have to? I have read conflicting posts saying that it does and doesn't alter the video. My tests show that the video stream would remain unchanged. Can you please confirm wether my tests are inaccurate or not. Thanks!
Sy, I asked the author this very same question. He said it does NOT alter the video stream if it doesn't need to. Additionally, I have run DVD2one on a DVD that is only 3 GB and the resulting output was only 3GB. This convinced me.

Rombaldi

30th January 2003, 05:27

Originally posted by Sy
Can I make a suggestion for future releases. How about adding the ability to decode right off of a DVD disk

ABSOLUTELY FRIGGINGLUTELY NOT! This is what makes this proggie so good. No one.. NO ONE can touch it with a DMCA charge or anything else.. it DOSEN'T DECRYPT ANYTHING! All is does is operate on the ALREADY UNENCRYPTED data, therefore it CAN'T be a target of the MPAA!

There are plenty of other rippers around.. let this do what it does the best.

kdiaz

30th January 2003, 06:24

Originally posted by IdentDee
Has anyone tested this new 1:1 Copy Program "DVD2ONE"?
http://www.dvd2one.com

It uses compressed domain mpeg-2 transcoding and should be very fast.
But what about the quality?

I've used it and tested it fully. Works very fast and looks pretty decent for the short amount of time it took to squeeze all that onto one dvd. I used it for harry potter and monsters,inc. -both successful and quick.

Although I'm having a problem finding the best media to buy in bulk without killing my pockets. I need for this media to be compatible to plenty of standalones so I don't have a problem bringing the backup over to a friends house. Any ideas?

hendrix

30th January 2003, 06:40

I tested this program with Attack of the Clones and I was very suprised with the quality and it only took 20 mins...DAMN
Im going to do another test tonight with Saving Private Ryan.

preston

30th January 2003, 07:05

DVD2One's buy page reports that it is experiencing difficulties, "sorry for the inconvenience." No info on when it will come back up.

mordant

30th January 2003, 08:03

Is no one else running into "encrypted data" problems with this software? I've tried a couple of DVDs, different ripping programs, different settings, and still can't get it to work for me.

I'm doing LotR 2 disc version right now. Got an "encrypted data" error on the 3rd Vob. Moved the transcoded Vob1 and 2 to another directory. Deleted original Vob1 and 2. Renamed remaining Vobs starting at 1. Reran DVD2ONE and this time it made it through the renamed Vob3, but stoped for encrypted data on vob4. Tried the same process of move/rename with the remaining vobs and kept getting the error on vob4.

Any ideas?

Mikele

30th January 2003, 08:16

If I didn't know where this little dvd2one.exe came from I would instantly think it's a trojan :) But it's an amazing piece of software and I'm sure it will get even better with time.

I've tried it with only one DVD, Leon R1. Quality is great but motion is a little bit jerky, it looks like a bad IVTC'ed movie, though it's not the case.

vljenewein

30th January 2003, 09:01

I was asked the following by a moderator:
"Can you shed some light on this for us?
Take a real long movie with a high bitrate and try to copy it to one DVD (Good example: The Matrix). Thx"

Ok, I've got Matrix on VCR tape but went to store and got Matrix on DVD. Original DVD Decrypter file size is: 6,071,500,800 bytes
AFTER DVD2one my "burnable" movie "Matrix" is now 4,678,696,960 bytes. I watched the movie and if there is any quality loss, I didn't detect it. 1 DVD. Time to re-encode it.. about 17 minutes. Plays just like all the rest by the way...perfectly! I'm really pleased with this DVD2one program

Not just copied but redone. Not stipped of extras as this would have been way too much even with the extras gone. Quality was above my VCR tape, in fact, watching the movie, I really didn't notice a quality shift or loss. I use DVD Decrypter to rip main movie to HD using "file" mode. I copy a few extras above the highlighted files, like the VIDEO_TS.IFO and such. I create ahead of time a folder with AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS in there. I use DVD2one to determine which set with chapters I want. I choose 1 language, no subtitles and angle 1. then in 17 minutes it was done. THEN I check it with IFO edit and click "Get VTS Sectors" and it doesn't reset any as is the case when I do other "chopping". I make it region free, and save the VIDEO_TS.IFO again before leaving. Then I burn on Nero 5.5.10.0 version in UDF (no wizard) copy over empty AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS (with the movie) and click burn. Take movie out and plays in virtualy anthing. *S* I'm really a happy camper!!!
Vernon
jenefarm@direcway.com

m3taPT

30th January 2003, 09:14

Originally posted by herbapou

So to see if your re-encode has the problem, zoom the movie with your DVD player and look at some part of the screen where there is no movement. You should see the image go sharp/blurr/sharp/blurr/sharp.. every half second or so.

And i thought i was going nuts cause noone had seen this before :)
Yes its so visible. I tried Captain Corelli (very slow action movie), and in the "still parts", the background looks like xmas tree lights. sharp/blurry/sharp/blurry/sharp/blurry. Very odd. To say the least. I'd call it annoying, but its the first release, so i wont diss it. :)

Radioman

30th January 2003, 10:42

Is there anyone who have done any 2 hour movie with both DVD2DVDR and DVD2ONE to be compared ? Would be very interresting to hear a comment on.
The question is if the transcode from DVD2ONE is comparable in quality to a movie reencoded with the Cinemacraft encoder (which DVD2DVDR uses). Cinemacraft is IMHO the best in quality and speed.

Offcource there should be a slight quality decrease even without zooming.
@m3taPT
This blurr,sharp,blurr,sharp on still parts you mention is perfectly normal for a movie with less bitrate. What do you expect when you transcode a movie, using maybe 2/3 of the original bitrate ?

I presume that 2 hour, or slightly above, is the max for a movie burned on a single layer DVD in the full 720x480/576 resolution ? If you want descent quality I mean. Any opinion ?

I havent tried any of those two tools yet but I will this weekend I hope (to much projects going on ;-).
I was very surprised when I heard of this new tool DVD2ONE. Sounds like a saga or some other "to good to be true" story !

waldok

30th January 2003, 11:21

radioman, can you elaborate a bit ? Why would it be "perfectly normal" to have this blur-sharp behavior just because of a bitrate decrease ? Never had this effect with encoders like CCE at svcd bitrates and DVD resolution. Why would transcoding produce this weird artefact ?

Thanks for explaining.

Waldok:cool:

valnar

30th January 2003, 12:22

I have the same problem with Leon. A little shimmering in the background. I'm waiting for the next release.

Originally posted by Mikele
If I didn't know where this little dvd2one.exe came from I would instantly think it's a trojan :) But it's an amazing piece of software and I'm sure it will get even better with time.

I've tried it with only one DVD, Leon R1. Quality is great but motion is a little bit jerky, it looks like a bad IVTC'ed movie, though it's not the case.

idea-thinker

30th January 2003, 14:24

I have worked with DVD2one and it appears to work very well. I have used the program on movies that are 6GB or less and it works with very little visual loss.

It is my intention to use it on movies that are 4.38GB to 6GB in order to get them to fit on one DVD. For me, it looks like as long as I do not reduce the size by more than 28%, the vidoe looks great.

I am somewhat new at this, so the above info is not based on a vast expericense base.

Thanks;

tallboy

30th January 2003, 14:36

Just wanted to let everyone know that I email the author about not being able to download the registered version. He promptly emailed me back the program. Works great on the first DVD I tried "Reign of Fire". I'm a happy camper.

Sparkplug

30th January 2003, 14:58

The compressed movie by DVD 2 one does not play in standalone SONY
n
NS 400, It starts, after a few frames skips to the next chapter and so on. Does somebody experienced this ploblem?

SkoalWintergreen

30th January 2003, 15:25

I did a test run with the trial version of DVD2One this evening and I was quite impressed to say the least with the quality, it reminded me a lot of an SVCD (Which to me is fairly satisfying quality) the speed was increadible so I was real happy with that. This is all very promising because I went with the big movie right away, I used Braveheart which is 6.6 gig (7,100mb) for the movie. Like I said I was happy with the quality. I'm probably going to purchase the full version and do a few movies see how it works out, I'm also looking forward to the new releases, and I'm curious with the method they use can they eventually increase the quality of the video? I think the quality is good, and I know it will never be CCE but some improvement couldn't hurt, I'm not sure if it can even be improved with the method they use, even though I'm afraid people will want options coming out of there ass by the time the third release roles around that they will be busy messing with all that crap and those fixes that the quality will just be long forgotten. I just think if they went hard and improved the quality now then the options could come poring in, b/c I really think the quality is almost there to acceptable for just about everyone. Either way a good product, always fun to see a breakthough advancement in DVD copying seeing as how I got the DVD A03 back in December 2001 and have been going at it since then.

Radioman

30th January 2003, 15:59

@waldok
"just because of a bitrate decrease"

I'm sorry but that is just the point. Mpeg movies are compressed and less bitrate gives larger blocks with the same information. Higher bitrates gives larger files and more details in the picture and the picture has smaller blocks of compressed video. The shiftings "blurr/sharp, blurr/sharp" is most noticable on larger backrounds with the same color and sometimes near details which is moving. There is other places to explain this in a better way then mine in this thread though.

I have read on a bit more on DVD2ONE and maybe the quality isn't in par with CCE yet
Anyway, it seems good, fast and easy.

This thread is long and informative on the subject.
http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=139234&start=40&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

int 21h

30th January 2003, 16:20

Originally posted by Radioman
Is there anyone who have done any 2 hour movie with both DVD2DVDR and DVD2ONE to be compared ? Would be very interresting to hear a comment on.
The question is if the transcode from DVD2ONE is comparable in quality to a movie reencoded with the Cinemacraft encoder (which DVD2DVDR uses). Cinemacraft is IMHO the best in quality and speed.

Offcource there should be a slight quality decrease even without zooming.
@m3taPT
This blurr,sharp,blurr,sharp on still parts you mention is perfectly normal for a movie with less bitrate. What do you expect when you transcode a movie, using maybe 2/3 of the original bitrate ?

I presume that 2 hour, or slightly above, is the max for a movie burned on a single layer DVD in the full 720x480/576 resolution ? If you want descent quality I mean. Any opinion ?

I havent tried any of those two tools yet but I will this weekend I hope (to much projects going on ;-).
I was very surprised when I heard of this new tool DVD2ONE. Sounds like a saga or some other "to good to be true" story !

The blur/sharpening is not normal, and is caused by one of two things.

The first, a bug. Perhaps the quant matrixes are inverted under some conditions. (As some others have suggested)

The second, since this isn't decoding to the MotionVector level, perhaps the blur/sharpen is a byproduct of this.

It's hard to say because this is the first encoder that uses this technique exclusively, however, it definitely is not caused by the reduction in bitrate. For more info on how this encoder works, you can take a look in the dev forum, and look at the proposal for an open source encoder of the same technique. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44321)

One thing is for sure, the author seems to be making strides into the right direction, and perhaps we'll see some of these issues resolved, and more information come out as the program progresses.

Oh, and congratulations to him for implementing something that many people have theorized and written papers about, but no one had professionally implemented :)

int 21h

30th January 2003, 16:21

Originally posted by Radioman
@waldok
"just because of a bitrate decrease"

I'm sorry but that is just the point. Mpeg movies are compressed and less bitrate gives larger blocks with the same information. Higher bitrates gives larger files and more details in the picture and the picture has smaller blocks of compressed video. The shiftings "blurr/sharp, blurr/sharp" is most noticable on larger backrounds with the same color and sometimes near details which is moving. There is other places to explain this in a better way then mine in this thread though.

This is completely untrue. The size of macroblocks is constant. Perhaps you should read some pages on how MPEG really works before you start misinforming people. :(

mmgrover

30th January 2003, 16:30

Well, I ran my first test. I processed Meet The parents last night.
DVD2One took 8 minutes and 6 seconds to complete. Original Main Movie
vob's totaled 5.8 gig. New vob's ended up at 4.1 gig. I burnt
movie to a DVD+RW and played entire move, then played original and
Couldn't tell any diff! Looks promising so far!!

mike

rusty.hill

30th January 2003, 16:33

Well, I've just tried the trial version on 'Panic Room' and have a CCE and REMPEG versions to compare.

The original movie is 107 mins long and takes 5.6Gb. The trial version of DVD2ONE produces a 1.2Gb file which runs for 30 mins as advertised. If you extrapolate this up to 107 mins it works out at 4.3 Gb so that looks OK.

The quality looks as good, if not better that rempeg and considering the speed - wow! The moive is quite slow moving - few action shots - and so I guess would work well with compressed domain resampling.

When the DVD2ONE site comes back up I'm off to buy it.

brgds

Rusty

Raedon

30th January 2003, 18:32

After several days of use and 20 movies compared I've come to the conclusion that it the movie is 1 gig over a dvd-r then it is best to set up and encode with CCE and go to bed. the greatest thing about dvd2one is it's speed. You can get that ripped DVD off your HD in under 1 hour with it, and if the movies are small then it works great! For really small movies that don't need encoding it's easy to use gets subtitles right and only takes 6 minutes as it doesn't actually encode/transcode anything at all.

As soon as dvd2one starts making things smaller I can tell the difference if I freeze frame. This doesn't bother me at all for the time it saves compared to CCE. Movies over 5.35gig show visible problems while playing and movies over 6gig just fall apart when it comes to what you could have got with CCE.

With really small movies like Disney films where the DVD's are typically 4.65gig, just 300meg more then will fit, it would be nice to compress the special features and leave the main feature alone. As it stands right now you can only keep the 3 audio tracks and 2 sub tracks and the movie. This usually only comes to 3.8-4.0gigs which is a waste.

dvd2one has been useful when I rent a movie that I don't really care to spend much time on and the rental is up and I got to have it back in 3 hours or something. Then I can just click the mouse a few times and forget about the process. Whereas a movie like Galaxy Quest (one of my fav's) is worth me doing right.

For a 1.0 release this is by far one of the most bug free releases of all time.. I find myself wondering if the fuzzy odd frames is a compression tech or a bug. I'm thinking that maybe every other frame is highly compressed in an attempt to lower size quickly while giving the illusion of quality to 75% of the public.

herbapou

30th January 2003, 19:24

When the blurr/sharp/blurr/sharp problem occurs, I am suspecting that the sharp frames have been left untouch and the blurr frames are the ones that have been reduce.

Of course I could be wrong. But if this his not a bug and its working "has intended", then half a second between rotations is too long. If it could be reduce to 1/10 of a second or less, maybe we would not be able to notice the pulsating/shimmering effect.

To simulate what it would look like if the rotation speed was increase, I will play the movie in fast foward x4, x8 and x16 when I return home tonight.

acidsex

30th January 2003, 21:40

Ok, heres my problem. I have used DVD2One with no problem on store bought dvds. However, this is what I am trying to do. I have a Panasonic HS2 DVD Recorder. And unfortunately, it can only dub in highspeed mode for the original quality of the recording (usually 9655K bitrate). I copy yhe VRO (VOB) files over to the hardrive and rename them to VTS_01_1.VOB etc....

The problem, I have three VOB files that are like 12gb together. So after much research and many different tools such as VobEdit, I figured that smart ripper does something when ripping the files. So I got created some IFOs with IFOEdit and then tried to get Smart Ripper to rip it and create the list. I start smart ripper up and locate the directory with the VOB files. However, it doesnt do any analyzing or ripping.

So I open up DVD2One, select the source directory with VOBs and IFOs, select the default directory and then select the audio track and go to transcode and nothing happens. No errors or anything, it just sits there.

So what I need to figure out is how creat a virtual dvd rom drive and copy the vobs and ifos over to it so smart ripper can rip and create that analyzing list so that DVD2One can trasncode it.

Can anyone help? I tried using TMPGenc to renencode so it will fit a single dvd but the encode was chit. Hoping to have better result with DVD2One.

wangofree

30th January 2003, 21:48

Man, this just isn't meant to be...I've had trouble with the trial version, and am eagerly looking forward to activating the full version of dvd2one now that the payment site is back up, BUT...

I can't get worldpay to accept a perfectly valid mastercard...has anyone had trouble paying for this software and eventually got worldpay to accept the payment? If so, how do you get around the error 331 code?

Sorry about this subject matter, but it has been frustrating trying to complete the circle with this much anticipated software.

I would appreciate anyone's insight on this niggling problem.

:mad: WF