Dvd2one

[jackburton]

Originally posted by wangofree
Kenwood - followed your instructions to the letter, but when I open NERO, it just doesn't recognize the file(s) found in the VIDEO_TS subdirectory. This includes:
Video_ts.bup
Video_ts.ifo
Vts_01_0.bup
Vts_01_0.ifo
Vts_01_1 (vob)
Vts_01_2 (vob)

Life shouldn't be this hard...am I totally stupid?? The VTS_01_1 will play great in powerdvd...but Nero or any other burning software doesn't seem to recognize any of the above files generated in DVD2ONE.

I ripped the file orignally with DVD dycrpter.

Thanks for any insight. WF




Make sure all of your filenames are in CAPS; that includes the extensions as well. For example:

VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB


Good Luck.

JB

[IdentDee]

Originally posted by onesoul
@IdentDee
Are you the creator of dvd2one?

No. I read an article in the german magazine ct about InstantCopy and started some investigation on the algos with the goal to program an open source mpeg-2 transcoder for KDE based on compressed domain transcoding.

[2COOL]

Just posted in another thread in burning forum about keeping menus but I've only done 2 DVDs so far. I haven't seen anyone mention about keeping menus yet except me.

Here's the link http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43837&pagenumber=2


2C:cool::cool:L

[waldok]

I just did a 30 minutes test on We Were Soldiers, Region 2. Lots of fire and smoke in the first scenes, so I said, let's try this. I must say I'm impressed, considering it only took a few minutes to process.

Now, regarding quality, I wouldn't say you cannot notice the difference with the original, the result is a bit blurry, you can notice it for a few minutes, but once your eye gets used to it and you don't have the original playing right besides on another TV set, you don't care anymore.

According to my criteria, the experience is judged successful if I completely forget about quality problems and get deeply "involved" in the movie plot after a few minutes (meaning quality problems are really minor). This was definitely the case, so I would say it is a succesful experience.

We were soldiers is a 150 minutes movie, pretty damn long, so there is some "shrinking" to be done by DVD2one to make it fit in 4.3GB.
Now the result is OK, not perfect but OK, very few artefacts I could notice, except if I stick my nose on the TV screen. I use a 43" Toshiba rear projector and I was very pleased with the overall quality (sharpness could be better, maybe it is related to the quantization matrix bug that mb1 pointed out ?). I didn't experience any "image shifting" of any sort for the moment.

I think this piece of software is highly "buyable". I'll do some more testing on movies like "the others" (pretty slow motion) or "scorpion king" (sand storm should reveal things). Anybody would suggest some reputedly "hard to encode" movie to try this proggie on ?

Waldok:cool:

[sorrydaijin]

ok... if CCE was a 10 for quality, this probaly gets an 8 at best, but lets face it, its still much more bitrate to play with than an SVCD set so its not too shabby. On top of that it is so bloody fast that if you rate on speed alone there is no competition.
The main thing is though... who PAID for CCE? (you don't have to answer that)
Lets face it, if you forked out 2 grand for an encoder... and more for authoring gear, then you certainly don't need to back up your dvds. You just buy 2 of everything and you'll still be ahead moneywise for a long time (say, 100 DVDs) AND save the hassle of making a backup.

This costs 40bucks, so assuming everything is above board in your DVD duplication, it is the ONLY choice. (well, at least when it does the full disc anyway...)



On another note, I am a bit worried if it can handle DVDs with episodes or not. Backing up my wife's "Sex and the City" is definitely the next experiment (I swear, its hers!)

[Jayce]

Originally posted by sorrydaijin
On another note, I am a bit worried if it can handle DVDs with episodes or not. Backing up my wife's "Sex and the City" is definitely the next experiment (I swear, its hers!)

That's a feature which is not yet implented. Currently it can only process one stream from a dvd but making a 1:1 copy is planned for the near future

[Little_John]

I've just had a quick test with this program, I ripped perfect storm with all the extra's taken out it was just over 6gig, used dvd2one it now fit's like a glove on a DVD-5 :)

I'm no expert when it comes to ripping, it's something I've just started to get in to but I can see this is going to make things a lot easier, as for a difference in quality, there is very little.

A big thunbs up for this program, but I carn't wait to see what Instant copy from Pinnacle will will be like, the only downside I can see from dvd2one is it doesn't rip or copy straight from the DVD, but for a program at only a few k you carn't complain :D

[ryutran18]

The main thing is though... who PAID for CCE? (you don't have to answer that)

i didn't...:D

ps...don't tell anyone i got dvd2one full version for free 2.:devil:

@edit: This is the 2nd time I have to remove a warez link by you (incidentally it's even the same link). I'm sorry but you have to learn the rules the hard way. A rule6 strike counts twice and you've just earned number 3 and 4.

dont click, copy and paste in browser
hurry b4 they take it down

[Pete Sofa]

This is definetly a case of you cant have your cake and eat it.

Of course you can expect something that takes 30 mins to process a DVD to match the power of something like CCE. For most people who are probably just aquiring films to add to their massive collections what does it honestly matter? Apart from a select few films that you may watch over and over again (and will probably own the original for anyway) the vast majority will just be sat on a shelf or swapped with friends. This is my experience of whats happening with my mates (though I might add I have only a handful of DVD's myself, original or copys).

Considering a few years ago we were faced with crummy VHS and VCD quality films things have come a long way.

Personally lifes too short to wait around for hours just for the *perfect* duplication of a film I'm probably gonna watch a handful of times anyway before a new standard get released in a few years and the whole cycle starts again.

I'd guess that most people on here are using a pirate version of CCE and other tools to make pirate copies of DVD they've rented or borrowed from friends. Those sort of freeloaders are in no position to criticise anybodys hard work in my opinion.

[int 21h]

Originally posted by Pete Sofa
I'd guess that most people on here are using a pirate version of CCE and other tools to make pirate copies of DVD they've rented or borrowed from friends. Those sort of freeloaders are in no position to criticise anybodys hard work in my opinion.

I think you would guess wrong. I think the majority of people in this thread are just questioning basic quality issues (and it appears they are justified with the speculation about the inverted quant matrix). I'm not sure if you've forgotten but some of the best software in the 'scene' was developed by 'pirates'.

[Jolard]

Ran a test last night, K_19 Windowmaker. Not a huge amount of action, but plenty of underwater shots, and a few good high motion areas.

Ripped with DVDDecryptor, IFO mode. I know DVD2One recommends File Mode, but hey, stripped all subs and language tracks except for English 5.1. Ended up with a 6.5 GB file, obviously would need a good amount of compression.

Ran DVD2One, very simple, ran for 20 minutes. (Amazing speed as everyone has mentioned). Burned to DVD +RW using Nero (Another not-recommended process, but hey it worked fine) and tested on my Toshiba Rear Projection 43".

I have to say I was VERY impressed. The picture quality was excellent, especially considering the compression from 6.5 to 4.3. Only noticable issues were a little bit of haloing around the titles that wasn't it the original, and a minor (very minor, not noticeable most of the time) softening of the picture. Noticed just a handful of artifacts in high motion frames, but nothing that I would have noticed if I hadn't been looking carefully.

For the price, and for the speed factor this can't be beat (at least for now ;) I recommend a purchase. Sure CCE might be better quality, but I would rather have this quick process. So here is my new and simplified toolbox (since I probably will no longer use CCE, AVISynth, TEMPenc, etc etc)

For DVD 5, Rip with DVD Decryptor and burn

For DVD 9 that I just want the movie and it is under 4.3gb, DVDDecryptor and IFO Edit

For DVD 9 that I just want the movie and it is over 4.3gb, DVDDecryptor and DVD2One

For the rare DVD 9 that I want all special features and menus and don't mind 2 DVD's, DVDxCopy.

I have to say that my life is much simplified, and I am happy!

[iamcalebyoda]

I just bought this program yesterday. I absolutly love the simplicity and speed of this program. Sure I can have better quality if I use CCE but the time it takes to re-encode, author, etc. isn't justified most of the time. If a movie isn't too huge than the quality won't be noticed even on a huge screen like mine (122").

I also think that those who are going to use this program should invest and buy a copy. It's only 40 bucks so you can't use the excuse that you don't have the money. Investing in this program will help further develop updates, etc...

[Imperial Zeppelin]

OK, I'm going to add my $0.02...much too much pontificating going on here, so I'll try to be direct and factual.

1. DVD2ONE is a tool, like CCE, TMPEG, etc. Who out there only has a single screwdriver in their tool box??? DVD2ONE's great convenience, speed, ease of use and low cost make an important part of anyone's video tool box.

2. At times, you have movies that you really don't care too much about and they're just over the single DVD-R limit. Here convenience outweighs exacting details so DVD2ONE is a GREAT CHOICE.

3. At other times, you'll have a movie pushing over 6 GB and you want the highest quality. If you want the higher quality, you'll go with CCE and go through the necessary steps to make your backup copy.

4. And if you want the highest quality of a movie that you really care about, you'll buy the DVD.

Yes I bought it and I happily use it, especially with movies that I originally bought on VHS. Let's face it, even a mediocre DVD beats the heck out of an excellent VHS copy. And yes, when I go to the widescreen HDTV I see a difference between CCE and DVD2ONE, but I also see a difference with both of those and the original.

Additionally, I know that I've got friends who make me shudder if I think that they're going to try to use CCE and DVDMaestro since I'll be on the phone with them for hours trying to walk them through the process and even then, I doubt it will ever work. DVD2ONE is the perfect solution for people who are microprocessor challenged.

The question that each of us have to ask is "What's good enough?" That's a personal choice and not something to answer here.

If someone asks if the software does what it's supposed to do, the answer is YES and at a speed which really surprised me.

[Pete Sofa]

Originally posted by int 21h
I think you would guess wrong. I think the majority of people in this thread are just questioning basic quality issues (and it appears they are justified with the speculation about the inverted quant matrix). I'm not sure if you've forgotten but some of the best software in the 'scene' was developed by 'pirates'.

If this is the case, I take back what I said in the final paragraph.

Though I still believe the quality of DVD2One is pretty good for the cost / speed.

[hattia]

I just tested yesterday. I transcoded the all movie "Some like it hot" which was encoded progressive-interlaced.

It worked fine.

YES. It is the faster transcoder I have ever seen :confused: . It took me 25 minutes. This tool deserves to be tried !!

The quality was correct. Not perfect.

For people still using Re-mpge...I would say....use DVD2one....you will get better result in shortest time!!

For people using CCE...I would say....stick with it !!....CCE is still the BEST. With CCE, you can set the right settings...and using the advanced mode to perfectly improve the picture....

OK. With CCE, you still have to do the re-authoring....but after 500 hundred times...it becomes "routine" huh ??! :D

[Renzo311]

THe lack of control over how big you want your movie, i mean lets jsut say i want the scene selection and the menu to stay, i cant neccesarily get these things to fit in every instance. ON most movies i can use DVD2One to COnpress the movie and then use ifoupdate to enable to use the menus, BUt in a few cases the menus are jsut to big , and teh total DVD Size is To big. IM just sayin it would be nice to tell the program you want 600megs of free space left or something, or even a ballpart estimate. Just my .02

[2COOL]

Originally posted by Renzo311
ON most movies i can use DVD2One to COnpress the movie and then use ifoupdate to enable to use the menus, BUt in a few cases the menus are jsut to big , and teh total DVD Size is To big.


Try stripping out unwanted VOB-IDs(bonus materials menus) in Menu Extras to get your movie smaller. If you're not going to keep bonus materials stuff, they do take up a chunk of space in your menu vob.

2C:cool::cool:L

[jdobbs]

I gotta tell you, I got a "borrowed" copy of this (to test) and it works well. I'm not saying it's the 8th Wonder of the World or anything, I haven't tried it with enough variety -- but this is definitely going in the right direction.

I sent the guy money for a legal copy -- even if I don't use it that often, it's worth $43 just to get him to keep working on it!

@Renzo311

I know exactly what you mean. If I could enter a parameter that said how big I wanted the result to be (instead of the fixed size) I'd use this on all the smaller movies and keep the extras...

There's got to be an easy patch for this waiting out there somewhere.

[gingga]

i got the original menus back in working fine with a single pgc film but is there anyway this could be used for multiple pgc's also and if so how

[ux-3]

My suggestion:
1. Chose audio / subtitles you want and add extra audio tracks (i.e. french). Then process. Close program.

2. Restart program, open finished 4.3 Gig rip, point to some other empty directory, deselect french and run again. If I understand it right, it will just strip away french, or italian or german or all to give you room for those anoying menues... Not precise, but for smaller denominations, use two channel audio, directors comments and subtitles. It's a stop gap till the update is ready...

[valnar]

Other than the features which are going to be added (like picking the final size, which seems to be the most requested in this thread), does anyone know if the author plans on improving the quality of the compression? Has anyone spoken/emailed to him?

(I read this thread and didn't see a definitive response from the author, so forgive me if he contributed here)

-Robert

[Jayce]

READ THIS PLEASE

I'am posting this in behalve of DVD2one.com, it seems that somebody found it a good idea to launch a DOS-Attack on the servers.
At this moment the payment server is under such a heavy load that is impossible to get a payment trough.
He's verry sorry for the inconvience and hope that all the trouble will be over soon.

Erwin
---

I've got only one question for the people responsible for this: WHY?

[valnar]

His payment server isn't running MS SQL, is it?? :(

[Jayce]

Nope, some sort of own build custom webserver.

[GAK]

DVD2ONE works great for me. Super fast and even on 3 hour
movie looks good.
This is the first transcoding program I have found that
preserved the closed-caption data on all the tests I've
done.:)

[Raedon]

as an old video guru I can say, without a doubt, the output was less then ok.. It's like looking at a projection image threw a cloud of fast moving smoke. :o and as usual, my wife couldn't tell the difference. :D

But 15 minutes.. omg!

I tried it on Star Trek III (6.22gig) and the results were less then I would like from a dvd2dvd-r type product. If the next version is more quality based then time based... or it there was a choice.. It would be a better product.

[quantum]

One question about this program. I normally use CCE when it's necessary to reduce. However I found dvd2one a good choice for backing up DVDs that don't require reduction.

Let's say I have a movie that already fits on one disk. My old procedure was:
1) DVDecrypter
2) Ifoedit (for stripping and creating burnable files)
3) Nero

Now I've been doing:
1) DVDDecrypter
2) Dvd2one
3) Nero

Dvd2one is much faster than ifoedit on my PC for this procedure. Is there any reason not to use Dvd2one in this scenario?

[SciFer]

I AM SOO FUSTRATED. I've trying to buy this software for the last 2 or 3 hours but he's still having problems with his site. His "Buy" option doesn't load up. I'm so impatient, I have a few movies on my hd that I want to process but can't. The demo did a great job in my opinion. ...just venting...thanks..I feel better now.

[Raedon]

Originally posted by quantum
One question about this program. I normally use CCE when it's necessary to reduce. However I found dvd2one a good choice for backing up DVDs that don't require reduction.

Let's say I have a movie that already fits on one disk. My old procedure was:
1) DVDecrypter
2) Ifoedit (for stripping and creating burnable files)
3) Nero

Now I've been doing:
1) DVDDecrypter
2) Dvd2one
3) Nero

Dvd2one is much faster than ifoedit on my PC for this procedure. Is there any reason not to use Dvd2one in this scenario?

Well, it does the Subtitle's right without breaking a sweat.. and without having to load up 3 different programs.

[FamousPerson]

Originally posted by quantum
One question about this program. I normally use CCE when it's necessary to reduce. However I found dvd2one a good choice for backing up DVDs that don't require reduction.

Let's say I have a movie that already fits on one disk. My old procedure was:
1) DVDecrypter
2) Ifoedit (for stripping and creating burnable files)
3) Nero

Now I've been doing:
1) DVDDecrypter
2) Dvd2one
3) Nero

Dvd2one is much faster than ifoedit on my PC for this procedure. Is there any reason not to use Dvd2one in this scenario?
I had the same idea. I wanted to make sure DVD2one only altered the video stream when it needed to. I asked the author and he confirmed that the video stream stays untouched when it is already small enough.

So, no, I guess there is no reason not to do it this way.

(edit) Although, at least for me, IFOEdit is just as fast at stripping out movie only. A couple extra buttons to push though...

[tallboy]

I bought dvd2one but when I go to the web site to download the register program all I get the the browser error of page not found. Is only else having this problem?

[jdobbs]

Yep. I paid for it and can't download it. There is nothing at the address provided. This guy may be a good programmer -- but he's got a shitload to learn about customer support, marketing, and making money....

[Goldfinger_007]

@tallboy
@jdobbs

If you've got your reg info, but can't download the prog - i can e-mail it to you?

i wonder how long the attacks on his server will last for, and how long it will be until everything gets repaired.

This guy may be a good programmer -- but he's got a s**tload to learn about customer support, marketing, and making money....

thats a bit unfair isn't it considering the outside influences?

[Raedon]

the guy's site is probably getting attacked by hired net'DOSers from the Movie industry lobby.. :rolleyes:

[jaa52]

Where can you buy this product on disk. I tried to go to the WEB page and was able to get the trial, but when I click on buy I can not get to the server. Can it be purchased retail?

[Goldfinger_007]

nope - only through the website


you could try and contact the author through one of his other sites:

http://www.remoteselector.com

[vljenewein]

I have been playing around with a DVD back up software called DVD2one. VERY impressed.

Movie: Divine Secrets of the Ya Ya Sisterhood.

Software: DVD Decrypter, DVD2one, IFOEdit, Nero 5.5.10.0

Start at 7:11 P.M. Placed movie in DVD drive and opened up DVD Decrypter. Setting is for I/O of WINASPI 32 4.71.1 version, use FILE mode, burn main movie, plus the first few files associated above it.
Final rip 6,345,080,832 bytes (too big for 1 DVD.
Start DVD2one program. Choose main movie, Endlish language, no subtitles, main angle. Source is the VIDEO_TS folder in the ripped movie from DVD Decrypter. Destination folder is one I created called "C:\YA_YA_BURN\VIDEO_TS" Time to complete the stip and re-mux task (make the files fit onto 4.7GB) was 17 minutes!! Yes, that's right 17 minutes. Normally takes me 8 or so hours using REMPEG2 go do a re-make of the movie files.
NEXT: Used IFOEdit, and now go to the folder containing the newer and smaller movie files, and click on VIDIO_TS.IFO and get that. Check the "Get VTS SEctors" and most times it re-does the pointers. Not now.. DVD2one did it on the fly. So, all I do next is click "region free" (which is really a bonus, and not really needed) and it makes the new movie region free, click SAVE and save the same file name as appears, and created a .BUP as well.

Next: Nero Burning Rom software. DO NOT use wizard!! DO NOT choose DVD VIDEO!! resulting burned DVD will not be compliant and will fail to play in a set top player. CHOOSE -> UDF mode and give the DVD a name. then click "NEW" and you then choose the drive and folder where the movie is, and copy over the empty AUDIO_TS folder (I created it back in the very beginning when I created the folder for the movie to go to), and click and paste the VIDEO_TS folder over onto the left. Now burn! When complete, put into player and watch movie.

There are no main menus, no traliers, etc etc.. just the movie, but it plays beautiful.

End of Nero burn was at 8:38 .. so it took 1 hour and 27 minutes to burn from the very beginning of rip, re-encode to final burn. The program DVD2one is written in machine language to make it work faster, and I guess it has acomplished that in a BIG way. I'm impressed! This is the 4th movie that has been that easy to burn and they ALL were above the 4.7 GB limit when originally ripped. This is a try and if you like buy software, and believe me, it's worth it.

Vernon
jenefarm@direway.com

[jdobbs]

@Goldfinger_007

thats a bit unfair isn't it considering the outside influences?

Nope, not one bit. When you're giving your software away (like I do) you have the right to be sloppy. But when you're taking people's money -- either do it right or don't do it at all.

Please note that:

1. It's not that the page was slow -- it's completely offline.
2. I noticed that the page to PAY always comes up fine!

Thanks for the offer -- but I'd already downloaded it off the newsgroups... I paid the guy because I thought the software deserved it -- and I want the v1.x upgrades.

[Goldfinger_007]

ok - you know more about that side of things than me, so fair enough

just to clear one thing up though, i wasn't offering the software for free, just the prog if you were unable to download it. :)

[jdobbs]

I understand. It wouldn't be any good to anyone without a registration key anyway so you're clearly cool. The version I have is 1.0.0 -- yours isn't newer is it?

[Goldfinger_007]

nope - same version

i wonder how long it takes for a prog like this to be updated with some of the features being asked

[valnar]

Somebody mentioned this before...

I see background pixels shaking and shimmering too. I think the video quality is fine for the compression it does, but I can't live with this problem until its fixed. For now, I'll wait until the 1.1 or future upgrades come out. Excellent program though.

Robert

[nosferatujr]

I just tried to reencode a James Bond movie (to test what happend with different sound systems) andworks fine, quick. I will purchasing this week end.

(for the test I was used a serial number from a friend, but I will support this tool, is inexpansive and I propose to everybody make the same)

Anyone knows how make a sugestion to the author?. the contact on the web page dosen't work.

My suggestion:

when the subtitles and audio(s) chosen are not on the first position, p.e.if you not select the 0x80 stream and select the 0x82, the result is not compatible on a 100 % of the players. I am conviced that the sort of this streams by remap starting on the first position free is a very easy thing inside this tool.

From my test I was remaped with smartRipper during the ripping. After I was used this new nice tool and at the end i was changed the streams ID (language names) with IFOEdit

[herbapou]

Valnar.

I suspect the shimmering problem is NTSC related? Do you used NTSC movies?

The problem doesnt occurs with NTSC animation movies (ToyStory, ...) so you can still use the program in the meantime for those movies...

I also have a problem with subtitles. They autostart when I insert the DVD in the standalone player.

[TyMac]

Does anybody know if it supports smp?

[Jayce]

It is multithreaded, but does not explicitly support SMP but it will nicely balance the two threads between two cpu's (but that's something windows arranges for you)

[TyMac]

Originally posted by Jayce
It is multithreaded, but does not explicitly support SMP but it will nicely balance the two threads between two cpu's (but that's something windows arranges for you)

So in most basic terms, 2 cpu's means twice as fast encoding for one job?... or do you mean you can rip 2 dvd's at the same time? (sorry for the confusion... not quite sure what you mean by balance the 2 threads)

[Jayce]

Nope, windows default behaviour is that multithreaded applications will spread their load over two cpu's.

So one cpu is handling the discwriter thread and the other is handling the compression thread.

Theoraticly you could start two instances of DVD2one, but i expect that doing such won't double the speed.

But we have no SMP machine yet to make a SMP aware version, but the tought crossed our minds
And i will be doing some testing next weekend on a 4 xeon machine, but that's more to see if SMP can be such an advantage that is worth to invest time in. For the moment the bottleneck of speed isn't the CPU but it is disc IO.

Within the processing time DVD2one reads aprox 6 Gb and writes atmost 4.37 GB of data. So doing this on a double raid config would seriously speed up things more then on a SMP machine.

(optimal config would indeed be a machine with 5 very fast HDD's : One containing your OS and swapfile, the other paired up by two in a raid config where one set is used for reading and the the other for writing)

[TyMac]

Originally posted by Jayce
Nope, windows default behaviour is that multithreaded applications will spread their load over two cpu's.

So one cpu is handling the discwriter thread and the other is handling the compression thread.

Theoraticly you could start two instances of DVD2one, but i expect that doing such won't double the speed.

But we have no SMP machine yet to make a SMP aware version, but the tought crossed our minds
And i will be doing some testing next weekend on a 4 xeon machine, but that's more to see if SMP can be such an advantage that is worth to invest time in. For the moment the bottleneck of speed isn't the CPU but it is disc IO.

Within the processing time DVD2one reads aprox 6 Gb and writes atmost 4.37 GB of data. So doing this on a double raid config would seriously speed up things more then on a SMP machine.

(optimal config would indeed be a machine with 5 very fast HDD's : One containing your OS and swapfile, the other paired up by two in a raid config where one set is used for reading and the the other for writing)

Ah I see... thanks for the detailed explanation... I've got a Dual athlon rig with a 10k Seagate scsi drive and a ATA/100 secondary drive... I think this will work out good for my standards (given my limited budget for such toys) that 4 xeon machine would look like 8 cpus give HT enabled!

[valnar]

Originally posted by herbapou
Valnar.

I suspect the shimmering problem is NTSC related? Do you used NTSC movies?
Yes, I have NTSC. I can't use it until it's fixed. :scared:

Robert