View Full Version : BDSup2Sub - convert and tweak bitmap subtitle streams (VobSub,BD-SUP,BDN XML,HD-SUP)
DMD
12th December 2010, 12:41
Unfortunately I'm noticing that many DVD titles
there are subforced integrated into the main stream that is not possible to extrapolate, so we need to do it manually. :(
Currently, proceed as follows:
1 - Load the stream with BDSup2Sub, then open simultaneously DVDSubEdit, using it as monitor, with the cursor and scan the entire movie looking for subForced.
2 - Once found, it must mark them with a flag in BDSup2Sub, then save the entire stream.
3 - Open the stream with BDSup2Sub "flagged" at this stage there is indicated the presence of forced, we will have to export as I said in the guide.
There is no other better way to do this?
THANKS
rernst
6th January 2011, 17:11
As it says: Reading the subtitle file (there is only one on the BD) bdsup2sub issues an error messages:
Loading W:\BDCLown\The girl with the dragon tatto\Subtitles_5_Undetermined.sup
#> 1 (00:02:21.808)
#> 2 (-3:-13:-5.-180)
#> 3 (-3:-12:-23.-763)
#> 4 (-3:-12:-19.-551)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 5 (-3:-12:-14.0-4)
#> 6 (-3:-12:-11.-84)
#> 7 (-3:-12:-6.-997)
#> 8 (-3:-12:-1.-741)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 9 (-3:-11:-58.-947)
#> 10 (-3:-11:-54.-734)
#> 11 (-3:-11:-50.-730)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 12 (-3:-11:-47.-978)
#> 13 (-3:-11:-45.-266)
#> 14 (-3:-11:-38.-969)
#> 15 (-3:-11:-35.-882)
#> 16 (-3:-11:-29.-501)
#> 17 (-3:-11:-25.-413)
#> 18 (-3:-11:-13.-109)
#> 19 (-3:-11:-9.-940)
#> 20 (-3:-11:-2.-641)
#> 21 (-3:-10:-59.-387)
#> 22 (-3:-10:-56.0-9)
#> 23 (-3:-10:-52.-923)
#> 24 (-3:-10:-47.-459)
#> 25 (-3:-10:-43.-371)
#> 26 (-3:-10:-39.-868)
#> 27 (-3:-10:-35.-906)
#> 28 (-3:-10:-32.-694)
#> 29 (-3:-10:-27.-439)
#> 30 (-3:-10:-23.-894)
#> 31 (-3:-10:-19.-97)
#> 32 (-3:-10:-16.-219)
#> 33 (-3:-10:-11.-506)
#> 34 (-3:-10:-2.-622)
#> 35 (-3:-9:-55.-574)
#> 36 (-3:-9:-52.-904)
#> 37 (-3:-9:-49.-25)
etc ....
The subtitle display correctly in the application. Exporting them doesn't seem to create error messages but when I try to multiplex the result matroska tells me there is something wrong with the format.
Would you like the file and have a look at it?
setarip_old
6th January 2011, 21:01
@DMD
Hi! There is no other better way to do this?Sure there is. In DVDSubedit, simply tick "Forced subs only"...
ptr727
28th January 2011, 00:19
Hi, when I load a sup file I get an indexoutofbounds exception.
Process:
Avatar BD, converted to MKV using MakeMKV.
MakeMKV included normal and forced subs streams.
Extract SUP file from MKV using eac3to and HdBrStreamExtractor.
I can open the normal sup file ok.
When I open the forced subs sup file I get the crash.
Sample file is here:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2182768/1_5_subtitle.sup
Is this a problem with MakeMKV, or a bug?
P.
ianken
4th February 2011, 04:17
I'm seeing the same thing.
AVATAR BRD-> MKV via MakeMKV
Extract subs using mkvextract (from mkvtoolnix)
The full sub set work (IE: the regular dialog and descriptive text)
The other track, which is just the na'avi, causes a thrown exception.
kws53
10th February 2011, 00:08
As it says: Reading the subtitle file (there is only one on the BD) bdsup2sub issues an error messages:
Loading W:\BDCLown\The girl with the dragon tatto\Subtitles_5_Undetermined.sup
#> 1 (00:02:21.808)
#> 2 (-3:-13:-5.-180)
#> 3 (-3:-12:-23.-763)
#> 4 (-3:-12:-19.-551)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 5 (-3:-12:-14.0-4)
#> 6 (-3:-12:-11.-84)
#> 7 (-3:-12:-6.-997)
#> 8 (-3:-12:-1.-741)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 9 (-3:-11:-58.-947)
#> 10 (-3:-11:-54.-734)
#> 11 (-3:-11:-50.-730)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 12 (-3:-11:-47.-978)
#> 13 (-3:-11:-45.-266)
#> 14 (-3:-11:-38.-969)
#> 15 (-3:-11:-35.-882)
#> 16 (-3:-11:-29.-501)
#> 17 (-3:-11:-25.-413)
#> 18 (-3:-11:-13.-109)
#> 19 (-3:-11:-9.-940)
#> 20 (-3:-11:-2.-641)
#> 21 (-3:-10:-59.-387)
#> 22 (-3:-10:-56.0-9)
#> 23 (-3:-10:-52.-923)
#> 24 (-3:-10:-47.-459)
#> 25 (-3:-10:-43.-371)
#> 26 (-3:-10:-39.-868)
#> 27 (-3:-10:-35.-906)
#> 28 (-3:-10:-32.-694)
#> 29 (-3:-10:-27.-439)
#> 30 (-3:-10:-23.-894)
#> 31 (-3:-10:-19.-97)
#> 32 (-3:-10:-16.-219)
#> 33 (-3:-10:-11.-506)
#> 34 (-3:-10:-2.-622)
#> 35 (-3:-9:-55.-574)
#> 36 (-3:-9:-52.-904)
#> 37 (-3:-9:-49.-25)
etc ....
The subtitle display correctly in the application. Exporting them doesn't seem to create error messages but when I try to multiplex the result matroska tells me there is something wrong with the format.
Would you like the file and have a look at it?
Interestingly, the same problem exists for "The Girl Who played with Fire". I demuxed using EAC3TO [CLI] and used the subtitle SUP stream produced.
Loading W:\GIRL WHO PLAYED WITH FIRE\00001 - 5 - Subtitle (PGS), 838 captions.sup
#> 1 (00:01:06.733)
#> 2 (-3:-14:-15.-959)
#> 3 (-3:-14:-12.-330)
#> 4 (-3:-14:-6.-741)
#> 5 (-3:-14:-3.-613)
#> 6 (-3:-13:-58.-942)
#> 7 (-3:-12:-54.-711)
<snipped>
#> 168 (-2:-50:-43.-840)
#> 169 (-2:-50:-41.-713)
#> 170 (-2:-50:-37.-41)
#> 171 (-2:-50:-30.-910)
#> 172 (-2:-50:-26.-30)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 173 (-2:-50:-21.-776)
#< 174 (-2:-50:-16.-979)
#> 175 (-2:-50:-12.-433)
#> 176 (-2:-50:-8.-805)
<snipped>
#> 231 (-2:-43:-35.-287)
#> 232 (-2:-43:-30.-490)
#> 233 (-2:-43:-26.-278)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 234 (-2:-43:-24.-25)
#> 235 (-2:-43:-19.-20)
#> 236 (-2:-43:-11.-221)
#> 237 (-2:-43:-5.-799)
#> 238 (-2:-42:-59.-167)
#> 239 (-2:-42:-54.-996)
<snipped>
#> 290 (-2:-36:-46.-44)
#> 291 (-2:-36:-30.-654)
#> 292 (-2:-36:-25.-148)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 293 (-2:-36:-22.-771)
#> 294 (-2:-36:-15.-514)
#> 295 (-2:-36:-12.-886)
#> 296 (-2:-36:-10.0-8)
<snipped>
#> 835 (-1:-11:-56.-293)
#> 836 (-1:-11:-52.-289)
#> 837 (-1:-11:-42.-780)
#> 838 (-1:-11:-24.-720)
Detected 0 forced captions.
WARNING: end time of frame 1 < start time -> fixed
WARNING: duration of frame 1 is shorter than 500.5ms
WARNING: start time of frame 2 < end of last frame -> fixed
Decoding frame 1/838 at offset 0x00000559
No problem with display but the subtitle stream is useless to hardcode into a 720p recode for streaming via a MKV container.
Ideas on resolving are certainly welcomed, since this and Dragon Tattoo are subtitled movies I regularly watch.
Kurt
kws53
12th February 2011, 16:45
Using the current version of EAC3TO [3.24] produces a faulty demux to .sup for both "Girl with Dragon Tattoo" and "Girl who Played with Fire" BluRay disks. This results in the RIGHT timing code for the first subtitle but craps out for the remaining ones - see my previous post for details.
The solution requires these steps:
1) Demux with tsMuxer to .sup
2) Demux with EAC3TO to .sup
3) Compare start time for first subtitle - if different [they were for "Girl who Played with Fire"] calculate the difference in ms [EAC3TO was correct]
4) Convert the tsmuxer .sup file using BDSup2Sub to .idx/sub using the DELAY from Step 3). My delay was almost 10SECONDS [9958ms].
Now the idx file can be hardcoded using Avisynth with VSfilter.dll and x264.
I was able to produce a superb 720p recode with hardcoded subtitles using this method.
Kurt
laserfan
12th February 2011, 18:39
You are saying in effect that the eac3to .sup was corrupt, and the tsmuxer .sup was not, but had a wrong start time which you corrected with BDSup2Sub? I'm curious of the tsmuxer demuxed .sup threw any errors when loaded by BDSup2Sub (apparently not)?
Sakura-chan
14th February 2011, 04:16
Hi!
I'm using this for the first time and I have one doubt. Where is the so-called "log" located? (is there any in the first place?). When I load certain BD SUP files it throws me 2 or 3 warnings and it tells me to see the "log". But I can't find it anywhere, only the .ini file with the program settings. Apparently the sub images are fine (haven't check 1 by 1, there are like 2000), but it worries me what the "warnings" could be or how can affect the subs. Great program btw, I have to use this to convert BD SUP files because SupRip is SERIOUSLY flawed, almost every SUP I try to open crashes the program at some point :(
Edit: Silly me, the log is the box on the left-bottom :P. The warnings always are: "multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic". Should I worry? (I don't have the video here to test, but the lines that show the warning seem to be ok).
Edit 2: Well, that "PDS/ODS" thingy causes the next line to appear on top, where it should be on the bottom. Manually editing the frame (copying the "Y offset" from the next or previous frame) puts the frame back where it should be. Nothing too bad of a bug. I get two or three of these per SUP file (and not always). What's weird is that none of the lines has any weird effect or anything. They are all supposed to be plain lines appearing on the bottom of the screen. Screenies:
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7492/asdio.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/asdio.jpg/) http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/9136/asd2ru.th.jpg (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/asd2ru.jpg/) http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/4035/asd3o.th.jpg (http://img821.imageshack.us/i/asd3o.jpg/)
Also, what filter is the best? I'm converting the SUP subs to IDX/SUB (keeping everything intact) and all filters appear to have the same quality >.<
Honeyko
22nd February 2011, 00:35
Maybe I'm missing something right in front of me, but can BD handle multiple subs simultaneously?
(I am chiefly interested in retiming entire swaths of "tinny" PAL DVD subtitles to 23.976; and would really love an app would could demux anything DVDdecrypt generates.)
setarip_old
22nd February 2011, 02:14
Settings>>Conversion>>Change framerate - and, if needed, Convert resolution
Honeyko
22nd February 2011, 09:29
My sequence:
1. DVDdecrypt PAL DVD
2. VOBsub to extract idx and sub files.
3. Drag either idx or sub into BD ... while opening, get error "There were 25 warnings" (and only the first subtitle displays or saves).
Log (parts of it):
BDSup2Sub 4.0.0 - a converter from Blu-Ray/HD-DVD SUP to DVD SUB/IDX and more
0xdeadbeef 02-12/2009
Official thread at Doom9: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145277
Loading C:\Download\VTS_01_0.sub
WARNING: Language id fr(index:1) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id de(index:2) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id it(index:3) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id es(index:4) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id nl(index:5) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id ar(index:6) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id cs(index:7) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id da(index:8) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id fi(index:9) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id el(index:10) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Illegal language id: iw
WARNING: Language id iw(index:11) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id hi(index:12) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id hu(index:13) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id no(index:14) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id pl(index:15) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id pt(index:16) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id sv(index:17) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id tr(index:18) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id fr(index:19) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id de(index:20) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id it(index:21) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id es(index:22) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id nl(index:23) inactive -> ignored
# 1
# 2
# 3
...
# 521
# 522
WARNING: Invalid end sequence offset -> no end time
# 523
# 524
# 1108
# 1109
....
Detected 0 forced captions.
WARNING: end time of frame 522 < start time -> fixed
WARNING: duration of frame 522 is shorter than 520ms
Decoding frame 1/1109 at offset 0x0002e000
WARNING: duration of frame 522 is shorter than 500.5ms
Decoding frame 1/1109 at offset 0x0002e000
WARNING: duration of frame 522 is shorter than 500.5ms
Decoding frame 1/1109 at offset 0x0002e000
Writing C:\Download\VTS_01_0_exp.sub
Decoding frame 1/1109 at offset 0x0002e000
Decoding frame 2/1109 at offset 0x00042800
Decoding frame 3/1109 at offset 0x0005e800
...
Decoding frame 1108/1109 at offset 0x05c19800
Decoding frame 1109/1109 at offset 0x05c42800
Honeyko
22nd February 2011, 23:36
...does anyone have a solution for the problem indicated above?
Thanks....
Lighto
24th February 2011, 12:56
Hi there, I am kind of new at this and I am seeking help regarding the colour codes.
This is the current .sub I have.
http://i52.tinypic.com/2mq9993.jpg
I am aiming to change the colour to white with black shadow instead of the current black with light blue shadow.
I have found out that Edit > Edit DVD Frame Palette can change the colours.
But I could not figure out how to get my desired colours.
http://i56.tinypic.com/axffqb.jpg
The closest I got was this.
http://i54.tinypic.com/5mwgmo.jpg
I have also read the help documentation at javaforge but could not find any information that was specific to the colour codes.
Any help or comments regarding this issue will be deeply appreciated.:)
kws53
28th February 2011, 01:15
You are saying in effect that the eac3to .sup was corrupt, and the tsmuxer .sup was not, but had a wrong start time which you corrected with BDSup2Sub? I'm curious of the tsmuxer demuxed .sup threw any errors when loaded by BDSup2Sub (apparently not)?
No errors. Only reason I noticed the delay was that I remuxed and viewed the film with the subtitles. Obviously they didn't line up and I realized that the delay was identical to the difference between the EAC and Ts start times.
Kurt
TheProfosist
10th April 2011, 17:17
i know this is purely a conversion tool bnut since it reads both DVD and BD subs nearly perfectly i think it would be a good idea to integrate OCR support right into it. main reason being suprip has problems and misses lines this catches everything and i actually use it to get the missing lines manually. also when cvting to sub the resulting sub it rather hard to ocr (using subrip) as compared say normal dvd subs.
DoctorM
10th April 2011, 19:05
Hi there, I am kind of new at this and I am seeking help regarding the colour codes.
This is the current .sub I have.
I am aiming to change the colour to white with black shadow instead of the current black with light blue shadow.
I have found out that Edit > Edit DVD Frame Palette can change the colours.
But I could not figure out how to get my desired colours.
The closest I got was this.
I have also read the help documentation at javaforge but could not find any information that was specific to the colour codes.
Any help or comments regarding this issue will be deeply appreciated.:)
Just to be clear, are you looking to change the colors from their original style, or is the problem that when you loaded the subtitles into BDSup2Sub they came out looking wrong?
I ask because I see that your black subtitles are already using a custom palette.
If the original source's subtitles are the color you want, then go to that drop box along that top that says "Palette" and change it from 'create new' to 'keep existing'.
Lighto
11th April 2011, 02:29
Just to be clear, are you looking to change the colors from their original style, or is the problem that when you loaded the subtitles into BDSup2Sub they came out looking wrong?
I ask because I see that your black subtitles are already using a custom palette.
If the original source's subtitles are the color you want, then go to that drop box along that top that says "Palette" and change it from 'create new' to 'keep existing'.
The source .sub is actually white with black shadow, the problem is that vobsub somehow extracted it off with the wrong colour(black).
I am looking to change it to the colour it is suppose to be.
Chetwood
11th April 2011, 05:46
You can do this in Subtitle Creator.
pomaranc
21st April 2011, 16:47
is it possible to set the language of the output file with command line to the same language as the source file? something like /lang:keep does'nt work.
crackinhedz
7th May 2011, 16:09
3) Compare start time for first subtitle - if different [they were for "Girl who Played with Fire"] calculate the difference in ms [EAC3TO was correct]
4) Convert the tsmuxer .sup file using BDSup2Sub to .idx/sub using the DELAY from Step 3). My delay was almost 10SECONDS [9958ms].
This absolutely F'n worked!!! :goodpost:
But I used the 9958ms delay for "Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" [USA Bluray] and it synced perfectly!
I skipped the eac3to step entirely, and instead just added the delay using tsMuxeR.
Brilliant. This movie was giving me fits! I am so thankful you had the answer.
EDIT: I also used for "Girl who played with fire", and the timing is perfect! Thanks again
jmone
14th May 2011, 11:34
Out of interest what is the difference in SUP format used by HD-DVD compared to Blu-ray?
MilesAhead
15th May 2011, 22:19
Hmmmmmmm, I wonder if anyone would consider bundling BDSup2Sub in a java wrapper to facilitate use from batch mode on Windows systems that don't have a jre installed? I know there are some that claim to allow bundling a jre inside the executable. I do similar stuff with AHK and AutoIt3 scripts. But I'm not Java adept. I'm suggesting it because I don't see other command line tools for Windows that will take a PGS and output an idx/sub pair with resolution adjustment and language string.
SpaceAgeHero
22nd May 2011, 08:36
Hey guys,
when exporting forced subtitles from SUB/IDX to the same format is filtering (e.g. bilinear) applied,
thus actually changing subtitle quality?
If so, which filtering is default / recommended for SUB/IDX?
Thanks!
Hello. While I think BDsup2sub is a great tool for Vobsub-based stuff, i am going insane here with the SUP output: When i mux BDsup2sub (4.0.0) generated SUP files with TSmuxer into an Mpeg-TS container (can't use MKV, since there's this ugly bug with it not being able to handle 1080i at the correct framerate!), i have the problem that subtitles show for one frame and then disappear (using VLC 1.10 or 1.09). This is definately caused by BDsup2sub (and all the tools that use it, i tried easySUP and 3D Subtitler - the latter being the original source of the image files!), cause i demuxed a SUP subtitle that TSmuxer generated from a SRT and remuxed it as PGS with TSmuxer and it worked okay. But when i took that SUP file and put it through BDsup2sub (and remuxed that again with TSmuxer), the flickering started.
Can't be a VLC issue, since it shows the TSmuxer-made SUPs just fine...
According to some (one!) forum thread that I found, the problem seems to be that BDsup2sub clears the screen after each subtitle, and these screen clears are timed incorrectly.
I tried everything, went through IDX/SUB and BDN as an intermediate format (XML looked just fine), all to no avail, it still keeps flickering....
How can it be that nobody ever noticed this? Am I the only one using BDsup2sub in conjunction with TSmuxer? Or am I just doing something horribly wrong? :-) I did read all the help in BDsup2sub, but couldn't find anything about the clearing aspect...
I haven't been able to find any other free tool that generates SUP files, is there any? There's only the commercial DualSUP and SupConverter from Defsoft, but I have no idea if they can fix this, since BDN (xml/png) import does not work in the free version...
Edit: I did try playing it on the Boxee now. The Boxee does show the BDsup2sub-generated PGS subtitles (longer than one frame), but it's still somewhat b0rked: Every now and then the outlines or a semi-transparent version of the subtitle remain on the screen, or they get displaced somewhere, when this happens it also skips the following subs for a few seconds. TSmuxer-made PGS subs work perfect OTOH!
MilesAhead
10th June 2011, 00:41
Try playing in WMP 12. It will display PGS subs. At least it's another test to verify the fault location.
edit: if you're on Windows platform. You don't specify.
kaid
10th June 2011, 11:43
I'm usually not on Windows, no, though I do have to use it for 3D Subtitler. And it's not so much a matter of playing the file, but more that there seems to be something wrong with BDsup2sub-made SUP files...
P.S: I did try WMP Classic with all codecs installed, but It wouldn't play any PGS subs in a TS stream... Though it did show the time, which in turn VLC doesn't!
MilesAhead
12th June 2011, 23:43
It's difficult for me to tell if PGS subs are acting up in VLC since every version 1.0 and later seems to want to disappear as soon as I touch it. Even sometimes I start a video and don't even mouse over, but when the subs come on, it goes away. Too flaky for me to use since they put in the PGS and XSubs support. Don't understand why. It used to be rock solid. I even tried to clean everything off and put on an old version that used to work. Still no dice.
soneca
17th June 2011, 13:54
This is an indication of an error authoring blu-ray?
Cause subtitles are not corrupt ...:confused:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p305/soneca1/Forum/bdsup2sub.jpg
Loading D:\DEMUX\00000.track_4608.sup
#> 1 (00:00:55.138)
#> 2 (00:01:07.985)
#> 3 (00:01:10.946)
#> 4 (00:01:15.492)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 5 (00:01:18.620)
#> 6 (00:01:24.001)
#> 7 (00:01:57.868)
#> 8 (00:02:00.245)
#> 9 (00:02:04.124)
#> 10 (00:02:07.169)
#> 11 (00:02:11.465)
#> 12 (00:02:17.846)
#> 13 (00:02:21.975)
#> 14 (00:02:25.354)
#> 15 (00:02:32.986)
#> 16 (00:02:36.990)
#> 17 (00:02:41.495)
#> 18 (00:02:45.582)
#> 19 (00:02:51.630)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 20 (00:02:55.258)
#> 21 (00:03:05.852)
#> 22 (00:03:09.356)
#> 23 (00:03:28.041)
#> 24 (00:03:32.129)
#> 25 (00:03:35.048)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
crackinhedz
18th June 2011, 23:52
Soneca, try demuxing your subtitle (.sup) file using tsMuxeR ...Im assuming you are using eac3to? It gave me same problem, so running through tsMuxeR fixed.
Not sure why though?
soneca
20th June 2011, 15:20
Thanks crackinhedz.
TSmuxer has a bug when resizing some subtitles to 720.
Using bdsup2sub the problem was solved.
jd213
27th June 2011, 13:59
Is there a way to prevent subtitles from disappearing and then reappearing when a subtitle with overlapping times appears on the screen (like when a person offscreen is talking at the same time as the main dialogue)? I guess this is due to BDsup2sub clearing the screen after each subtitle like kaid mentioned.
Ice009
18th July 2011, 15:36
Hey guys, someone suggested I use this program in another forum.
I am trying to back up my HD-DVDs to .MKV files, but I can't seem to get the subtitles to work.
I have made an .MKV file with MakeMKV that includes the main movie, audio and english subtitles then encoded that with handbrake. The subs don't work in Mpc-HC or VLC even though I have them enabled. I was told I had to convert them to another format as they are extended vobsub (whatever that means).
I was told to get MKVtoolnix and extract the subs, which I did with MKVExtractGUI2 and that gave me .idx and .sub files. I tried to load up the .sub file with BDSupto2sub and I keep getting an error saying "Invalid control buffer size". I've tried this with two different movies and it keeps giving the same error.
Am I doing it completely wrong?
jd213
19th July 2011, 06:29
I never had any problems converting HD DVD .sub files with BDSup2Sub after I demuxed the HD DVD using eac3to, see if you can try that.
Ice009
19th July 2011, 15:14
I never had any problems converting HD DVD .sub files with BDSup2Sub after I demuxed the HD DVD using eac3to, see if you can try that.
Thanks for the reply. How do you Demux it with eac3to? Does eac3to have a GUI?
I've only just started doing all this stuff about a week ago.
Killroy™
19th July 2011, 15:22
Thanks for the reply. How do you Demux it with eac3to? Does eac3to have a GUI?
I've only just started doing all this stuff about a week ago.
GUIs will create you more problems than they solve. Stay with command line for perfect function.
eac3to {disc location} {disk destination} -demux
Ice009
19th July 2011, 16:54
GUIs will create you more problems than they solve. Stay with command line for perfect function.
eac3to {disc location} {disk destination} -demux
So am I demuxing directly from the HD-DVD itself? Do I need to run anything like AnyDVD?
Also, what you wrote is kinda foreign to me. What is the disk location? The HD-DVD drive?
Killroy™
19th July 2011, 17:02
So am I demuxing directly from the HD-DVD itself? Do I need to run anything like AnyDVD?
You will need AnyDVD-HD if you haven't decrypted (ripped) the disc to your hard drive. I prefer to do it directly from the disc since it eliminates an extra step (ripping to hard drive) although it is a little slower.
Ice009
19th July 2011, 17:05
You will need AnyDVD-HD if you haven't decrypted (ripped) the disc to your hard drive. I prefer to do it directly from the disc since it eliminates an extra step (ripping to hard drive) although it is a little slower.
Well I've used MakeMKV to extract it to the HDD in the .Mkv container. Can you demux that or should I be doing it directly from the HD-DVD.
I'll have to install AnyDVD-HD.
Edit : If you have time to explain it step by step that would be appreciated as I have no idea how to do it.
Killroy™
19th July 2011, 17:10
Well I've used MakeMKV to extract it to the HDD in the .Mkv container. Can you demux that or should I be doing it directly from the HD-DVD.
I'll have to install AnyDVD.
That makes things more complicated... if your MKV kept the sub track in a native format then MKVcleaver (a mkvextractor GUI, but a good GUI) should be able to give you the raw files....but I suggest doing it directly from the disc since MakeMKV does funky things to files.
jd213
20th July 2011, 00:49
Well I've used MakeMKV to extract it to the HDD in the .Mkv container. Can you demux that or should I be doing it directly from the HD-DVD.
I'll have to install AnyDVD-HD.
I believe DVDFab Passkey also works with HD DVDs now, and the free Lite version might as well.
asarian
13th September 2011, 19:21
Soneca, try demuxing your subtitle (.sup) file using tsMuxeR ...Im assuming you are using eac3to? It gave me same problem, so running through tsMuxeR fixed.
Not sure why though?
Yes, I can confirm this. Eac3to, whilst otherwise a great program, often totally messes up the timings of the SUP files; whereas tsMuxeR extracts them perfectly.
P.S. Does does prog ever gonna get updated? Or is the project dead?
Weirdo
24th September 2011, 08:33
Sorry if this has been answered before, but is there a way to batch convert multiple subtitles? It's a great tool, but when there are many subs to convert I think a lot of time could be saved.
cafevincent
5th October 2011, 13:14
I'm getting an error from the .sup files I extracted, it says they're not supported.
edit: specifically the error message is this: ERROR: File 'D:\Downloads\Remux\AMBRA EXPERIENCE\00009.track_4353.sup' is not a supported subtitle stream. There was 1 error
It outputs the same error for each file.
Nincs
24th November 2011, 21:11
>> Current version: 4.0.0 (14.12.2009)
>> http://www.sendspace.com/file/j3df4s
That download is corrupted. It is states: "File Size: 700.02KB". But the file is 484 KB.
mbcd
1st December 2011, 17:20
Could someone give me a hint please how I can perform a speedup from 23,976 to 24.000 on CLI?
I speeded up video from 23,976p to 24p and also audio. That works fine. But I didnt get subtitles synced to 24p.
I always tried: fps:23.976,24.000 but they are still unsync (a little bit too slow on screen)
I got them synced in idx/sub, but NOT in sup ...
Superb
1st December 2011, 17:24
>> Current version: 4.0.0 (14.12.2009)
>> http://www.sendspace.com/file/j3df4s
That download is corrupted. It is states: "File Size: 700.02KB". But the file is 484 KB.Mirrors from local copy:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/e1dfg0
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M7502ARA
scrolling
6th December 2011, 19:12
I'm trying to get this program to work however I'm failing missable. I'm sure it I'm doing something wrong. I have down loaded Java RUNTIME 6 (http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en) and installing on a Windows XP system. Everything seems to go smoothly accept when I start up BDSUP2SUB a CMD window appears than goes a way. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
DoctorM
6th December 2011, 20:08
Could someone give me a hint please how I can perform a speedup from 23,976 to 24.000 on CLI?
I speeded up video from 23,976p to 24p and also audio. That works fine. But I didnt get subtitles synced to 24p.
I always tried: fps:23.976,24.000 but they are still unsync (a little bit too slow on screen)
I got them synced in idx/sub, but NOT in sup ...
I'm assuming you're using Settings/Conversion Settings, checking "Change Frame Rate" setting the source to 23.976 and the target to 24.
If that's still giving you slightly slow try setting the source to 23.975.
@scrolling: Um, you got me. Usually I'm the one that gets weird problems no-one else does.
mbcd
8th December 2011, 13:57
There are still many bugs using Frameratecconversion, that why I never got a strait result.
Problem is you get different results using CLI and GUI ... :scared:
For speedup from 23.97 to 24.0 you dont need to do anything, timecodes are still in 24.0, but I dont understand how they are sohwed correctly in 23.97 mode. Does the Player skip every "1001"- Subtitleframe ? Timecodes are the same for 23.97 and 24.0.
I dont understand how its been recognized correctly by the player.
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