HD-DVD to Blu-Ray. GUIDE UPDATED!!

[glen8]

Isn't Scenarist commercial software? I thought the whole point here was to be able to use free software. Can't we stick to TSRemux?

The guide has always been about the trying to find the best way of converting the formats.

TSRemux was in the original guide but gave problems...maybe the latest version has addressed some of those??

[zazon]

Hello All ~

I'm trying to convert the HD DVD of Unforgiven onto a Blu-Ray disc and have been using the guide. The first part has worked great, but I'm a little hung up on step four. When I go to use eac3to I get the error message "Getting Nero Audio Decoder 2. Instance failed. Aborted at file position 16384." It obviously isn't working. I tried using the Delaycut software, but I don't think that's the problem. I have Nero version 8.3. I was reading through the thread. I think I saw I where it said version 7 of Nero was better for audio encoding. Should I be using that or is there another preferred method. I tried searching through the thread, but didn't see anything relevant. Thanks for any help.

[theblind]

Hi !

Not better - only chance with the 7er Nero version... because the nero 8 codecs works only with nero applications.

Cu.

[zazon]

So I only need Nero for the encoding, not for anything else like the burning? Thanks for the reply.


Edit: So I installed Nero 7.5 and now am getting the error " The WAV writer did not receive the format information. Aborted file at position......." Anyone got a clue on this one? Thanks for any help.

[clockworkman]

Is there any way to take the TrueHD track from the original HD-DVD and use it with this guide to create the BD? If not, what is the next best option for audio quality if the HD-DVD has no DTS HD MA track?

Thanks

[Coolpplse]

Is there any way to take the TrueHD track from the original HD-DVD and use it with this guide to create the BD? If not, what is the next best option for audio quality if the HD-DVD has no DTS HD MA track?

Thanks

Since Blu-Ray supports Dolby TrueHD isnt it possible to import it into Sonic Scenarist? If not the next best option for Blu-Ray would be to convert it to PCM.

[qtx999]

Hello All ~

When I go to use eac3to I get the error message "Getting Nero Audio Decoder 2. Instance failed. Aborted at file position 16384."

did you try the -libav option?

eac3to file.eac3 file.ac3 -libav

i don't use nero 8, so don't know if this might be a problem

[kmitalian]

I want to know also to convert any TrueHD or DTS HD Master and then convert the audio as 5.1 PCM to import it as 5.1 PCM into Scenarist.

So we audiophiles get 100% exact audio!!!!!


Please Update the guide to PCM!!!!

[zazon]

did you try the -libav option?

eac3to file.eac3 file.ac3 -libav

i don't use nero 8, so don't know if this might be a problem


When I install Nero 7, I got a the newer error message I posted later. I'll give your idea shot and see what happens. Thanks for the reply.

[nekrosoft13]

is there anyway to convert HD-DVD files made in Nero Vision to Blu-ray structure?

I used Nero Vision to re-encode two clips, because original size where about 1 gb to big for BD.

Nero Vision did create HD-DVD structure that is a bit different then retail HD-DVD, but iso image plays fine in PowerDVD.

I tried using Blu-ray profile, but for some reason BD is limited to interlaced in Nero Vision, HD-DVD is allowed to be re-encoded in Progressive.

Problem is that now I can't get the EVO files back to BD structure. Tried evodemux, tsremux, tsmuxer.

Evodemux, since the files were cut in 1gb segments, evodemux will not detect the next segment is stops at the first.

tsmuxer will not detect audio in first and last setgment file.

tsremux finds video stream, ac3 stream, plus two additional phantom mpeg audio streams

[Herve66]

Try this from the master:............................
You could use "eac3to FEATURE_1.EVO+FEATURE_2.EVO -demux" for demuxing instead of using EvoDemux.
..............................
I've done the above for two evo files. Presumably, you could do it for even three or more and end up with a single video file and perhaps several audio and subtitle files.

In madshi's above example, the evo files reside in the same directory as the eac3to.exe file. For evos residing elsewhere (on the ROM drive, for example), one must type the FULL PATH to each file in the series.

(As far as I'm concerned, eac3to is the preferred software when it comes to demuxing m2ts and evo files - particularly because it compensates for any plus or minus audio delay prior to remuxing and it also identifies the audio track's language. Congrats, madshi.)

[EPiPH0NE]

I want to know also to convert any TrueHD or DTS HD Master and then convert the audio as 5.1 PCM to import it as 5.1 PCM into Scenarist.

So we audiophiles get 100% exact audio!!!!!


Please Update the guide to PCM!!!!


+1.

I am currently trying to this as well but w/o Scenarist. I have and have used Scenarist but switched to tsMuxeR a few months back. Works perfect for my BluRay/Hd-DVD projects.

[malibu08]

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\blu_ray\eac3to>eac3to N:\TEST\audio.ddp N:\TEST\audio.wavs -nero
E-AC3, 5.1 channels, 1:49:16, 768kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
Removing dialog normalization...
Decoding with DirectShow (Nero Audio Decoder 2)...
The WAV writer didn't receive the format information.
Aborted at file position 629352960.

Hi!
This is the error from eac3to
What is the problem?
Can anybody help me please ??

:helpful:

[Beastie Boy]

For eac3to problems, you would be better off posting in the eac3to thread.

Try eac3to -test to confirm your Nero filter is working.
Try using the -libav switch to force to libav decoder.
If the above don't work, there could be a problem with your source file.

Cheers, Beastie.

[malibu08]

For eac3to problems, you would be better off posting in the eac3to thread.

Try eac3to -test to confirm your Nero filter is working.
Try using the -libav switch to force to libav decoder.
If the above don't work, there could be a problem with your source file.

Cheers, Beastie.

:thanks: for your help

C:\blu_ray\eac3to>eac3to -test
Nero Audio Decoder (Nero 7 or older) is not working correctly
Sonic Audio Decoder (4.2.0.102) works fine
Haali Media Splitter doesn't seem to be installed
Surcode DTS Encoder doesn't seem to be installed
MkvToolnix doesn't seem to be installed

What is the problem with nero?
What should i do now?

THANK You so much !!

[Beastie Boy]

The Nero HD DVD/BluRay plugin is a seperate purchase from Nero 7. Have you purchased a serial number for the plugin?
Alternatively, use -libav on the end of your command line.

Cheers, Beastie.

[malibu08]

The Nero HD DVD/BluRay plugin is a seperate purchase from Nero 7. Have you purchased a serial number for the plugin?
Alternatively, use -libav on the end of your command line.

Cheers, Beastie.

Ah okay...i don`t have this plugin

THx for your help

regards and have a nice day

[iontyre]

The guide has always been about the trying to find the best way of converting the formats.

TSRemux was in the original guide but gave problems...maybe the latest version has addressed some of those??

I can only find two places that even sell Scenarist, and they are on the west coast. Can we even get it here in the east, and how much does it cost?

[pulsation]

For anyone who can help...

I am trying to convert Terminator 2: Judgement Day Director's cut HD-DVD into files the PS3 will play. Right now the movie is broken up into several .ts files. I am trying to convert the .ts. files to .m2ts files with Tsremux with no luck. The .m2ts output option is completely grayed-out. Any thoughts? The .ts files have VC-1 video and DTS-HD MA audio.

:thanks:

[OHB]

I have followed all the steps several times and in the end my m2ts (blu-ray structure) file has audio video off sync i have no idea how to fix it. can anyone help me.

[Herve66]

I have followed all the steps several times and in the end my m2ts (blu-ray structure) file has audio video off sync i have no idea how to fix it. can anyone help me.
Are you using eac3to for the original demux of the evo(s)? If not, give it a try. eac3to will adjust audio delay when writing the new, demuxed audio files.

eac3to FEATURE_1.EVO+FEATURE_2.EVO -demux

One must first open a dos window, change directory (cd) to the eac3to directory, then, when typing the above command, type the FULL PATH to each file in the series.

[OHB]

did that this time around and just ran the vc1 file in vc1conv now about to feed it through scenarist again and see what that gives out

[OHB]

ok so i tried it again (demux everything through eac3to) and then went through vc1conv and delaycut, created the mui files, ran them in hdmv, and still get audio video off sync. i also ran them through tsmuxergui and added a delay of 2000ms. audio starts late but some how gets ahead of the video again within 2 min of running. anyone know whats going on with this???

this is the timeline in the clip editor in scenarist

and another thing it shows that the vc1 file is profile 3. i'm going to be playing this on a ps3. do i not have to make it 4.1 for ps3 playability?

[n0mag!c]

it shows that the vc1 file is profile 3. i'm going to be playing this on a ps3. do i not have to make it 4.1 for ps3 playability?
4.1 concerns to H.264 video stream not to VC-1 stream.

[OHB]

is there a way for me to slow down the audio so that it runs with the 23.976fps video?

[Herve66]

This is a bit OT, so please forgive me.

I've demuxed a BD m2ts using eac3to and end up with a xxxx.h264 file and several audio and subtitle files.

I would like to use MUIgenerator to produce video ves and other files necessary for Scenarist to mux with the audio files that MUIGenerator has no problem whatsoever producing.

I figured that since the xxxx.h264 video file is demuxed from a BD m2ts file, the file should be of a proper format for MUIGenerator to easily produce the ves files, but MUIgenerator always gives an error and produces not a single file.

Before using MUIGenerator, I've tried simply changing the .h264 file extension to .avc and then inputting that file into MUIGenerator, and I've even tried using h264info to "convert" the h264 file to a file with the avc extension. Neither method works. MUIGenerator will simply not produce ves files from that xxxx.h264 file. (I've tried this on two different BD h264-encoded movies.)

The funny thing is that Tsmuxr can create a bd disk structure from the m2ts file, and Imgburn can create the iso, no problem, but the resulting iso has the occasional hiccup that HD-DVD-to-BD isos, that are finally muxed with Scenarist, never have.

Anyone had any luck getting MUIGenerator to produce ves files from an xxxx.h264 file that has been demuxed from an m2ts container?

Thanks

[OHB]

can anyone explain why i have a longer video coming out after using vc1conv? this is where my issues are coming from as i can get nothing working after this

[OHB]

ok so after everything that i have been through with the entire process i decided to tryout tsmuxergui. i muxed from .evo to split to two .m2ts files and then muxed it again using the create blu-ray burned each set to dl+dvd and ran fine.

[wdiceo]

So, obviously this thread has knowledge with hddvd to blu ray,

so heres my question. I do not want to burn a blu-ray, I want my ending result file - the m2ts or m2t file to play from my network storage running twonky to stream to the ps3.

I did everything according to the guide at the beginning and get a big nasty corrupt data error.

So, obviously saying ps3 will play .m2ts or .ts streams is where im getting kicked in the butt. WHat do I have to do to take the end file from scenarist and make it so it will play off my Network Storage on my ps3?

I tried a couple different ways, end it im messing something up.

[Beastie Boy]

So, obviously saying ps3 will play .m2ts or .ts streams is where im getting kicked in the butt. WHat do I have to do to take the end file from scenarist and make it so it will play off my Network Storage on my ps3?

You don't need Scenarist. Use eac3to to produce a ac3 file and mkv file from your source EVOs or BR disc. If the video codec is VC1, use meGUI to convert the mkv to h264 raw stream (.264) using the PS3 profile.
Import the video (mkv or 264) and audio into tsMuxer and output to .ts.
Voila.

Cheers, Beastie.

[wdiceo]

Alright, tried above method. WORKED.. will play. But runs"slow" almost like a stutter...
tried with a h.264 file.

Any thoughts? Plays fine in cyberlink power dvd, synced fine. Could it be my router? Its a 10/100? Suggestions?

[Beastie Boy]

Do you have any way to play the file, or a portion of the file, connected directly to the PS3, perhaps using an external USB drive or pen drive. A 100Mbit wired connection should be fine, but at least you would know whether the file was working OK and if you need to start looking for network problems.
The TS file can be trimmed in tsMuxer.

Cheers, Beastie.

[malgates]

Hi,

I tired to convert the hd dvd DOOM to Blu-Ray. I used your guide until step 3. To convert the audio to ac3 I used eac3to. After that I just muxed the Audio and video with the mkvmerge gui. I get an new file that works with PowerDVD (the previous didn't) but it won't be played on the playstation 3.

Where did I go wrong? Is it even possible to Use the VC1 files on the PS3 without encoding it to H.264. I don't want to encode them because my Computer is to slow for that.

Is there a Programm that identifies the Fil and can tell me wether its Blu-Ray compliant or not?

Thx

[Blu-Watcher]

Doing all the converting as instructed (doing Dune) HD 2 BD the finished files work great in my Totalmedia Theater 3 and once burned to BD they work in the computer but when the disk is put 1n the Panasonic BD80 and a BD50 they will not run.

Has anyone got an idea why.

The burned selection is 24.3GB for one though incase size might be

Also I'm thinking no menu might be a problem

Or in the burning

Help
Thanks

[Capsbackup]

Maybe the issue is the Panasonic, as they can be picky as to what they will play back. Perhaps you could try your disc on another brand player, like Sony, and see if it plays. This could save you time and frustration trying to figure out if what you did was an acceptable conversion, just not for the Panasonic! :cool:

[Blu-Watcher]

Problem there, live out in the country and don't know a soul that has a Blu-Ray machine.

[Ghitulescu]

All Pannies behave the same and are a sort of "exception".
Try using multiAVCHD with "Panasonic/Viera output" and it will work.

[Blu-Watcher]

At what point in the process from processing the video to just before burning are you suggesting to use this multiAVCHD program.

[laserfan]

At what point in the process from processing the video to just before burning are you suggesting to use this multiAVCHD program.
First thing to try is to open mAVCHD and drag the BDMV/CERT folders from your finished BD onto it (that is, after copying these folders back onto a hard drive somewhere). When mAVCHD offers to Re-Author you say yes, then output again using Panny option.

[deank]

Doing all the converting as instructed (doing Dune) HD 2 BD the finished files work great in my Totalmedia Theater 3 and once burned to BD they work in the computer but when the disk is put 1n the Panasonic BD80 and a BD50 they will not run.

Do you burn BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders to the disc or just some m2ts files. If you do the 2nd it will never work.

I think there is no "Panasonic" options for output in re-author mode, but you can do it in the normal authoring mode and get a menu.

[Blu-Watcher]

I still had the final files on the computer so ran them thru the multiAVCHD I hope I did it right but it processed the files and gave no errors burned again and it still didn't work. It started reading the disk and then stopped no err reported.

Well, I backed up the process and recombined the Video and Audio in tsMuxeRGUI and set it for Blu-Ray at fps 24000/1001 and remuxed it and it gave me a blu-ray folders which I burned to a TDK 25G disk with Nero 9 and this one worked in the Panasonic.

It did have some jerkiness to it, but when I restarted the movie it wasn't there the next time I got to the jerkiness spot.

In other words I didn't do the last step tsremux.

I burn folders and all just like a regular BD.

How much of this processing can be done in this multiAVCHD or is it just the last step for the panasonic?

[Blu-Watcher]

I've got one last HD-DVD to process and it's a H264 type, when I process it it comes up with PTS< DTS Rerun and try the B-Pyramid option. I check that option and then it tells me PTS< DTS Please check input stream or report to H264info author.

I get the last about the author but whats the rest about?

I own 38 HD-DVD movies that I'd like to convert to my blu-ray cause I'm getting a Sony 400 disk unit.

[Blu-Watcher]

Well, the Clown_BD worked great got all the disks converted Thanks for the help.

[rick090]

Hi. i wanna use the guide but the link is leading nowhere. is there an updated link?
thanks.

[setarip_old]

@Blu-Watcher, @rick090

Hi!

I think you'll find it much easier and simpler to do the following in order to convert your ripped/decrypted HD-DVDs to BluRay:

1) Open tsMuxeR GUI
2) Click on the "Join" radiobutton and select the first "Feature".EVO. Repeat for each consecutive "Feature".EVO (usually just one more. Almost all HD-DVDs have the main movie comprised of two "Feature" .EVOs
3) Select "BluRay" at the bottom of the window.
4) Click the "Start Muxing" radiobutton

[rapscallion]

I tried that with the Eagle's Farewell Tour, which has 3 EVO's.

The thrid one resulted in terrible out of sync audio.

Now that the guide in the first post is no longer there, any suggestions ?

Edit: OK, extracted the audio via eac3to and it found a 273ms delay @ 1h39m08s. Fixed it in the 2nd pass and all is well. Remuxed with the m2ts via tsmuxer and all is in sync. Turned out to be an easy process, so thanks again Setarip for your wisdom !

[setarip_old]

so thanks again Setarip for your wisdom !

As always, my pleasure (especially for someone from "Lawnguyland" ;>})...

[rapscallion]

AKA, Isle of Long :cool:

[vosscross]

I tried that with the Eagle's Farewell Tour, which has 3 EVO's.

The thrid one resulted in terrible out of sync audio.

Now that the guide in the first post is no longer there, any suggestions ?

Edit: OK, extracted the audio via eac3to and it found a 273ms delay @ 1h39m08s. Fixed it in the 2nd pass and all is well. Remuxed with the m2ts via tsmuxer and all is in sync. Turned out to be an easy process, so thanks again Setarip for your wisdom !

Hey i have the eagles hd-dvd also, my question is have you rescue also the dts hd master audio line by remuxing process?

vosscross

[rapscallion]

Well, not completely. If you want to burn this to a BD-25, and leave the video untouched (no re encode), then you have to drop the DTS-HD down to DTS-HRA @ 3841 Kbps, or else it won't fit.