HD-DVD to Blu-Ray. GUIDE UPDATED!!

[DonCarlos]

Hi

I did the same as Glen did(with scenarist and all the stuff) and it worked for me.

By the way did you guys take the disc which Scenarist created or did you take the m2ts file which scenarist created and run this through tsremux to create the BD structure?
I did it with Tsremux, because the Ps3 didn't like the disc created by Scenarist at all.

If it worked for you with Scenarist could somebody of you do the thing with Tsremux just to check that this also works in the right way. Thanks

[burro08]

You need Nero HD-DVD / Blu-Ray plugin aswell as nero 7.

I Have the plug in and it workin but not when i try to do the eac3to bit

[burro08]

Any ideas?

[B4tm4n]

Best ask in the eac3to thread.

[glen8]

Any ideas?

uninstall Nero, reboot and then reinstall

[glen8]

Hi

I did the same as Glen did(with scenarist and all the stuff) and it worked for me.

By the way did you guys take the disc which Scenarist created or did you take the m2ts file which scenarist created and run this through tsremux to create the BD structure?
I did it with Tsremux, because the Ps3 didn't like the disc created by Scenarist at all.

If it worked for you with Scenarist could somebody of you do the thing with Tsremux just to check that this also works in the right way. Thanks


I ran it through tsremux as I am splitting the .m2ts up into sections so they fit on a DVD-9

I had to sell my blu-ray burner as the eject button didnt line up with my case (damn stealth bays)

[jokin]

I can get the first part of this tutorial to work fine. The TSremux to bluray structure. I can not get Scenarist to mux completely. I am using a h264 ES and I remove the pulldown etc. I stop right before the tsmuxer portion and make the VES files for import. They import fine. I make the basic stucture found elsewhere on doom9. I remove the Copypermission tag and set it to 0. Then I go to mux and about 5% it says disc failed with unknown error. In the log it says not much other than "pts_ofNextGOP is empty".

Any ideas on what is wrong? Tried on my Band of brothers import and on my Next HDDVD.

EDIT:

exact error: "2008-03-01T02:53:10Z|ERROR|MUX_SN_E_TS_UNKNOW_ERR|F:\Blu-Ray\Authoring\tester\Output\MUX\Disc\DB\BDMV\STREAM/00000.m2ts|0|Unknown Error|tswrapper.dll::CTSWrapper::ProcThreadMain::This program has a bug. - m_ptsOfNextGOP is empty.|"

[fuzz!]

I Have the plug in and it workin but not when i try to do the eac3to bit

why not skip the eac3to bit?

i did.. just demuxed the DD+ stream and remuxed it into the blu-ray structure.

works fine...

[glen8]

why not skip the eac3to bit?

i did.. just demuxed the DD+ stream and remuxed it into the blu-ray structure.

works fine...

Yes that will work...unless the filesize is then too big to fit on a BD-R

[glen8]

scenarist works great with VC-1 but not with AVC

for AVC use the guide on page1

[DonCarlos]

Hi guys I am trying to implement the HDDVD subtitles into the final Bluray. I demux the streams(with EVOdemux) to an sup file. Then I convert this one to a srt file using suprip. After that I load the subtitles into subtitle workshop 4 beta. With that I can export them to a bdn file. Scenarist will like this file. I choose fps 23.976 than I choose video format 1080 and I choose timecode format to 30 frames/sec non drop frame. After that I change the colour of the writing to grey, because Scenarist does not like white. In Scenarist I set the offset of the subtitle to the time the first frame should show up, because scenarist takes the first event as 0. Then I mux everything together. The subtitles show up when I watch the movie. In the beginning the are in perfect sync but in the ending they are out of sync. Any Ideas? I hope you can help because I don't know. Perhaps there is another way to convert the subtitles in a format Scenarist likes?!

[MrFaust]

Has anyone sucessfully converted V For Vendetta or The Matrix Trilogy from HD-DVD to Blu-Ray and had them play on a PS3?

If so, can you give me some tips if there was anything special other than what's in this guide?

I'm going to try to start converting these 4 movies.

[y2jdmbfan]

Does this method only work for PS3? Is there any method to get HD-DVD to Blu-Ray working on set-top players?

[jokin]

This should work for set top players as well.

[fuzz!]

The first movie I tried worked brilliantly (after discovering that I had selected the wrong audio track).

However, I tried to convert another disc and the audio is way out of synch.

Is there some way to see the delay of an audio track? None of the information I saw in EVODemux and the XPL information showed a delay.

[glen8]

The first movie I tried worked brilliantly (after discovering that I had selected the wrong audio track).

However, I tried to convert another disc and the audio is way out of synch.

Is there some way to see the delay of an audio track? None of the information I saw in EVODemux and the XPL information showed a delay.

AVC or VC-1?

List the steps you took

[napalm-187]

hi

hi i have make an m2ts from an vc1 and dts

vc1 converted from hd dvd with vc1conv without the pulldownflags

streams plays with reclock but i have all 10 seconds audiodrops

my output is analog and not over spidf

the same file make with scenarist works without the audiodrops

played with powerdvd or zoomplayer, wmv decoder and ac3filter

where is here the prob?

[y2jdmbfan]

This should work for set top players as well.

I have tried a bunch of players using this guide and then using glen8's suggestion for VC-1 movies and I haven't gotten one to play on any set-top players, but they work great on PS3...Is there something to do with the way we burn the movies with Nero that could be doing it? I get the "this disc cannot be played" message on set-top players...

[glen8]

I have tried a bunch of players using this guide and then using glen8's suggestion for VC-1 movies and I haven't gotten one to play on any set-top players, but they work great on PS3...Is there something to do with the way we burn the movies with Nero that could be doing it? I get the "this disc cannot be played" message on set-top players...

are you burning to BD-R or splitting and burning on DVDs?

[y2jdmbfan]

Bd-re

[priyaradha]

glen great guide!! but i have problems playing back i am doing matrix reloaded, my playback is stuttering after i convert it to blu-ray. The evo plays fine however after the encoding to bluray all i get is jerky playback any ideas??

[priyaradha]

never mind it turns out nero was the culprit i un-installed it and everything works fine..

[glen8]

I have nearly finished an updated guide

should put an end to any outstanding issues

[madshi]

Encoding to DTS with surcode introduces sync issues
That shouldn't happen. Eventually Surcode still puts padding (just some zero bytes after each DTS frame) into the DTS file. You can remove the padding by running the DTS file another time through eac3to. That will remove the padding and restore audio sync.

[glen8]

That shouldn't happen. Eventually Surcode still puts padding (just some zero bytes after each DTS frame) into the DTS file. You can remove the padding by running the DTS file another time through eac3to. That will remove the padding and restore audio sync.

I know, it's all in the new guide

[priyaradha]

hey glen quick question i just did a quick playback of my conversion but for some reason my movie never gets to the credits. It just stops half way near the end...any ideas?? I was using Matrix Revolution

[glen8]

hey glen quick question i just did a quick playback of my conversion but for some reason my movie never gets to the credits. It just stops half way near the end...any ideas?? I was using Matrix Revolution

Give us a couple of days, I have that movie to test

[fuzz!]

AVC or VC-1?

List the steps you took

sorry for the delay... (in regards to my delay issue *boom tish*)

VC-1 with DD+ audio. (like most hd-dvds i've seen) the movie was king kong.

followed all the steps in the guide, except skipping the transform to AC3 (left as original EAC3).

nothing unusual, evodemux->vc1conv->tsmuxer->tsremux.

[glen8]

sorry for the delay... (in regards to my delay issue *boom tish*)

VC-1 with DD+ audio. (like most hd-dvds i've seen) the movie was king kong.

followed all the steps in the guide, except skipping the transform to AC3 (left as original EAC3).

nothing unusual, evodemux->vc1conv->tsmuxer->tsremux.

VC-1 really needs to be used through scenarist

The guide one page1 is a bit outdated to be honest, I'll try and finish the new one for the weekend

[jagaskywalker]

VC-1 really needs to be used through scenarist

The guide one page1 is a bit outdated to be honest, I'll try and finish the new one for the weekend

I have made a bluray version of King Kong using scenarist 4.2 and it works perfectly on PS3.

evodemuxer -> vc1conv -> scenarist -> tsremux (to create AVCHD for DVD9)

The audio was:

evodemuxer -> eac3to (using sonic codec, it worked with 5.1. Unfortunatelly I do not have the nero 7 codecs which would result in a better encoding) -> scenarist (had to add 00:00:00:23 to have it in sync, I do not know why the duration of the audio and video was different)

subtitles:

evodemuxer -> supread -> scenarist (I had to specify the start time of the first subtitle as it appeared as 00:00:00:00)

I have two questions:

Is it possible to have the dd+ audio track without re-encoding to ac3 ?

Is it possible to trim the end of the video in scenarist ? It does not fit within a single layer bluray by a few Mbs (I do not mind loosing some part of the end credits)

Cheers

J

[madshi]

evodemuxer -> eac3to (using sonic codec, it worked with 5.1. Unfortunatelly I do not have the nero 7 codecs which would result in a better encoding)
Better use "-libav" instead of "-sonic". Gives you better quality.

[priyaradha]

thanks for getting back glen, i am going to try to convert it again just to make sure i didn't miss a step. The only difference i did on the conversion is change the chapters to 15min instead of 10min. But let me go back to default and see what happens..

[DonCarlos]

I found the same issues with audio streams. Some audio streams are shorter than other(I don't know why it is that way).I am German so I first tested with the german audio tracks and all was fine. Than I wanted to have more audio tracks (by using scenarist). My testing movie always was the bourne supremacy. There the English audio track is on second shorter than the german so it was one second out of sync. The a friend of me tried the same with king kong and found out that there the English audio stream is also about on second shorter than the german one. Also this second was missing at the beginning. So I don't know how to handel it you have to figure it out yourself.but the the missing time I think is always in the beginning.

Than somebody already said it. I too was able to integreat the original subtitles into the blu ray. Open the subtitles with Supread(it has to be the newest beta otherwise you have to use hdsup2bdn and use the command to fix the times in an bdn file and chacnge the framerate to 23.976)and export the subtitles to an Blu ray bdn file. You can import this bdn file into scenarist. After that you have to delay the subtitle stream the time until the first frame should show up. It will work

[priyaradha]

thats funny i am also trying to convert Bourne supremacy, i also had an audio sync, but i thought i must of screwed up somewhere so i am in the process of redoing it. Where exactly do i fix the audio sync? btw i am using the US version of the movie with English audio track. Do you know the exact offset between the video and audio for the enlish version so i don't have to spend time syncing it.

[fuzz!]

VC-1 really needs to be used through scenarist

The guide one page1 is a bit outdated to be honest, I'll try and finish the new one for the weekend

the video is fine.. i dont see how scenarist could help.

i would hope all i need is to punch in a number of milliseconds delay somewhere... and to know what that number is of course.

might be something to ask EVOdemux.

thanks glen8, look forward to the updated guide :)

[DonCarlos]

thats funny i am also trying to convert Bourne supremacy, i also had an audio sync, but i thought i must of screwed up somewhere so i am in the process of redoing it. Where exactly do i fix the audio sync? btw i am using the US version of the movie with English audio track. Do you know the exact offset between the video and audio for the enlish version so i don't have to spend time syncing it.

I was using the European version. But I think it should be the same. You have to get the englisch audio an offset of 1000ms to the movie start. If you do it in Scenarist click on stream editor and klick on the englisch audio track with the right mouse button. Then on time and then 10000ms video offste.If you use tsmuxer just klick on the audio stream. Then somewhere will delay apear. Take 1000ms.

[glen8]

I've done about 7 VC-1 movies and 3 AVC movies now and never had any audio problems.

Make sure you have the latest versions of all the software as they often get updated.

The new guide has a few different options for audio so you should find at least one which works lol

[madshi]

The usual source of audio sync problems is that the audio and video tracks don't always begin at the same time in the EVO (or m2ts) container. EvoDemux does not care and just demuxes the tracks as they are. As a result when simply muxing the video and audio tracks to a new container there will be audio sync problems. When eac3to is used for demuxing, eac3to will automatically apply audio delays where necessary to make audio and video in sync *). This problem only occurs with some movies, though. Many movies are authored in such a way that audio and video begin at the same time. With such movies there's no need to apply any delays.

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*) Bourne Supremecy is still not in sync even when using eac3to. I've not yet had the time to figure out why. It's the only movie I know which doesn't have correct audio sync when demuxing with eac3to.

[priyaradha]

I've done about 7 VC-1 movies and 3 AVC movies now and never had any audio problems.

Make sure you have the latest versions of all the software as they often get updated.

The new guide has a few different options for audio so you should find at least one which works lol

which guide about different audio options? I cant see any difference on the guide on the first page. Has the same thing that i have been following... am i missing something?

[burro08]

*) Bourne Supremecy is still not in sync even when using eac3to. I've not yet had the time to figure out why. It's the only movie I know which doesn't have correct audio sync when demuxing with eac3to.

Why did you get the HD and not the blu-ray???

Glen would you like some screen shots for your guide??

[MrFaust]

Why did you get the HD and not the blu-ray???


none of the Bourne series is on Bluray.

[priyaradha]

here are my results btw i am using Cole2k Media codec pack (if it makes any difference?)

Matrix Reloaded(DD+)-delay on audio set to 1000ms
Matrix Revolution(THD)- NONE
Bourne Identity(DD+)-None
Bourne Supremacy(DD+)- delay on audio set to1000ms
Shooter (DD+)-None


**FYI when i did matrix revolution i set my chapter interval to 15min instead of 10min in tsRemux for some reason this caused the movie to cut off at the end. However after going back to 10min interval worked fine. Also if audio doesn't sync use 1000ms delay w/tsMuxeR. (worked for most of my conversions).**

[burro08]

none of the Bourne series is on Bluray.

Your right i apologise...

[mparter]

Looks like you guys have done an excellent job of getting this working for playing from disc on a PS3 or other Blu-Ray player. Now, how can what's been learned here be applied to streaming source HD DVD content to the PS3?

:thanks:

[GatorTex]

Thanks so much for these guides to all who have heavily contributed. I've successfully re-encoded Transformers, Batman Begins, and TMNT HD-DVDs to Blu-ray with absolutely no stuttering problems (VC-1 or H.264). Now, if only BD-J could handle all the IME of an HD-DVD we could transfer the entire disc with menus! I know, I'm dreaming....but one can hope. The only negative thing about all this is losing all the extra features but I do understand most just want to watch the movie in hi-def and nothing else.

Now I can have my favorite HD-DVD exclusive movies on Blu-Ray (minus all the extra goodies of course). A big shout out to all you guys. Thanks!

[hidef_rec]

Has anyone converted 'Equilibrium' HD DVD? It's a Japanese import. I change the main EVOs to FEATURE_1.evo and FEATURE_2.evo (as they weren't named that way) so EVODemux would create the MPV and MPA correctly. Problem is the MPA. I picked the first DD+ stream, but it doesn't seem to work. Also, loading the MPV file in H264info crashes it. Any ideas?

[napalm-187]

hi

i have an problem with unsync in the movies with vc1 about the second half.
first part is sync, second part is unsync

i must add a - delay off -100-150 ms in mpc then is the second part sync , but the first is unsync

i think the prob is when evodemux join the second evo

there is an option adjust pts to evos there follows in evodemux?

must i check this option? for demux the video?

but this prob is not in all movies

the audiotrack is converted with eac3to to ac3 or dts

thx

[GatorTex]

napalm...have you tried changing the audio framerate in Scenarist from 29.97 to 23.976?

[y2jdmbfan]

Has anyone got this method to work on standalone Blu-ray players?

[glen8]

New Guide now online :-)