HD subtitle ripping (SUPread)

[Rectal Prolapse]

It's probably missing a DLL. I will need to find a dependancy walker for it.

[Rectal Prolapse]

BTW, that version doesn't do any command-line checking - it is very basic. You must supply TWO filenames. Check my original post I mentioned that:

9. Use SRTMaker, giving it the SRT and HTML file on the command-line to generate a new SRT that is piped to standard output.

I suspect it will work on your system as the errors are not complaining about missing DLLs.

[berndy2001]

amazing ... ;) it works on my encoding machine. thx a lot. (but not on my office pc, dont know why)

for the others: syntax is srtmaker input.html input.srt > output.srt

[Rectal Prolapse]

No problem! Here is a new version that is statically linked: I hope this removes dependencies on MFC 8.0 and CRT 8.0 DLLs.

I also added command-line checking - it now needs two filenames. :)

Also included is the setup program, which will install the executabe in [System Drive]\Program Files\SRTMaker, along with the updated source code (Visual Studio 2005 solution).

[bagge1]

I have a SRT-subtitle which I want to add to a 720p HDDVD project. My problems with a Scenarist ACA errormessage described earlier in this thread has been solved when I switched encoder from Mainconcept to x264.

I use Subtitle Workshop to get my .srt into sync with the video. Then I load the .srt into Subtitle Creator and then save it as .sup.
After that, I use Supread to convert the .sup into a .scn-sst file and .png's.

Everything works fine, except for the position of the text on the screen, as seen in this link (I colored the background so it would be easier to see) :

http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=30088645vi1.png

Do I get this problem because Subtitle Creator is unable to create HDSUP?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[Rectal Prolapse]

bagge1, sounds like those subtitles are positioned only for SD (720x480) resolutions! Does SCN-SST format allow you to specify x-y positions?

[andybno1]

I have just stumbled across this handy program and well I'm not overly impressed (may be on my part perhaps?)

demuxed sup file from oceans 13 hd dvd, first evo file sup file for forced subs loaded in supread but when I open in supread it says the first subtitle will kick in at:

03:19:28,569 --> 03:19:32,778

now the first evo is only 1hr 8mins, could someone shed some light?

[bagge1]

bagge1, sounds like those subtitles are positioned only for SD (720x480) resolutions! Does SCN-SST format allow you to specify x-y positions?

The scn-sst file begins with:

St_Format 4
Display_Area (0 2 1919 1079)
TV_Type NTSC
SubTitle sub1.sup
##########################
SP_NUMBER START END FILE_NAME
1 00:00:23:06 00:00:27:07 line0001.png
2 00:03:17:13 00:03:22:04 line0002.png
3 00:03:22:08 00:03:28:10 line0003.png
4 00:03:28:16 00:03:30:20 line0004.png
5 00:03:31:19 00:03:33:22 line0005.png
...............and so on


It certainly looks as if the second row has something to do with the position, but I'm unsure since the position of the text is already burnt into the png's as shown in the link from my last post.

[Rectal Prolapse]

Ah I see - in that case Subtitle Creator needs to recognize higher resolutions. And it would be nice if it could scale up. Oh well.

Maybe you can use a tool like Photoshop to batch convert all of those PNGs to 1920x1080 (or 1280x720) resolution? I'm assuming subtitle creator only outputs 720x480 PNGs.

For your PNGs right now the Photoshop action would need to scale the 720x480 portion of the PNG, but make sure the PNG remains at 720p.

Good luck!

[bagge1]

Ah I see - in that case Subtitle Creator needs to recognize higher resolutions. And it would be nice if it could scale up. Oh well.

Maybe you can use a tool like Photoshop to batch convert all of those PNGs to 1920x1080 (or 1280x720) resolution? I'm assuming subtitle creator only outputs 720x480 PNGs.

For your PNGs right now the Photoshop action would need to scale the 720x480 portion of the PNG, but make sure the PNG remains at 720p.

Good luck!

Thanks, I'll try it. Just need to read up on photoshop a bit first.

Subtitle Creator didn't output the PNG's though, SUPRead did. The size of the PNG's are 1920x1080.

What I'll try to do now is to crop out 720x480 portion and then resize it to 1280x720. Then I need adjust it in the scn-sst file.

I'll post my results here.

[andybno1]

I have just stumbled across this handy program and well I'm not overly impressed (may be on my part perhaps?)

demuxed sup file from oceans 13 hd dvd, first evo file sup file for forced subs loaded in supread but when I open in supread it says the first subtitle will kick in at:

03:19:28,569 --> 03:19:32,778

now the first evo is only 1hr 8mins, could someone shed some light?

anyone able to help?

[manusse]

Subtitle Creator didn't output the PNG's though,

Actually you can do that very easily with SubtitleCreator. Go to Tools->Manipulate sup .... and open your sup file. Then click on the 'Save Bmp' button and chose the PNG format.

Cheers
Manusse

[Taktaal]

I just uploaded version 0.91 of suprip that fixes some issues reported by berndy2001 and infernix, and doesn't automatically throw away all the progress you've made on entering letters when it crashes.

anyone able to help?

Can you post the .sup file so we can have a look at it?

[bagge1]

Thanks, I'll try it. Just need to read up on photoshop a bit first.

Subtitle Creator didn't output the PNG's though, SUPRead did. The size of the PNG's are 1920x1080.

What I'll try to do now is to crop out 720x480 portion and then resize it to 1280x720. Then I need adjust it in the scn-sst file.

I'll post my results here.

I solved the problem by using Photoshop as Rectal prolapse suggested. I created a simple batch-script which changed the resolution from 1920x1080 to 1280x720 and moved the text to the lower part of the screen. No changes in the scn-sst file was required.

Thanks Rectal prolapse for your help!

[xannn]

I just uploaded version 0.91 of suprip that fixes some issues reported by berndy2001 and infernix, and doesn't automatically throw away all the progress you've made on entering letters when it crashes.

Very Good PROGRAMM, BUT HAVE ERROR WITH A TIMES.
example ( Roving Mars )
1
00:00:15,613 --> 00:00:20,076
(man) Mars has always had a special
place in the human imagination.

2
00:00:20,159 --> 00:00:22,411
bla bla bla

after suprip 0.91

1
00:00:15,612 --> 00:00:15,543
(man) Mars has always had a special
place in the human imagination.

2
00:00:20,159 --> 00:00:20,092
bla bla bla
8-(

And more. Dont load all lines of Sup subtitles.
example: 00109.sup ( roving |Mars - http://rapidshare.com/files/65977217/00109.sup.html)
Load only 21 line from 365.
8-(

[andybno1]

Can you post the .sup file so we can have a look at it?

there you go http://rapidshare.com/files/66464357/English_Forced.sup the files small as theres only 25 subtitles due to these being forced subtitles, I also have a second evo file which is still in que to download as I get capped after 3gig of downloading

[andybno1]

I have just updated the sup file to include both evo files which I joined together but still get the first start time as 03:19:28,569 --> 03:19:32,778

could this be down to evodemux? I have version 0.627 b7 film is ocean's 13

[vwpassion]

Is there a way to only extract *forced* subs from a Blu-Ray?

[Rectal Prolapse]

vwpassion: Not yet.

[Taktaal]

How do forced subtitles work on Bluray? Are they separate subpicture tracks, or is it stored in a per-subtitle flag?
vwpassion, do you have a BluRay sup with mixed forced/nonforced subtitles? Can you upload it somewhere?

there you go http://rapidshare.com/files/66464357/English_Forced.sup the files small as theres only 25 subtitles due to these being forced subtitles, I also have a second evo file which is still in que to download as I get capped after 3gig of downloading

According to the .sup file the subtitles are really supposed to start at 3:20. Supread thinks the same. Maybe the EVO itself has a pretty weird PTS? Can you paste the output of Evodemux?

[Rectal Prolapse]

Taktaal, they are stored in a per-subtitle flag. I forgot exactly where in each subtitle, but it is there.

[azad]

I have a similar problem with the subtitles of the HD DVD of "The Reaping" like andybno1. This HD DVD is also a Warner Bros. release.
Following are the timestamps HDsup reads from the .sup file:

1
05:50:16,314 --> 05:50:21,446
line 1

2
05:52:16,434 --> 05:52:18,096
line 2

3
05:52:18,904 --> 05:52:22,738
line 3

4
05:52:53,939 --> 05:52:56,430
line 4

5
05:52:56,641 --> 05:53:01,170
line 5

6
05:53:03,148 --> 05:53:04,308
line 6

7
05:53:04,482 --> 05:53:06,144
line 7

8
05:56:54,846 --> 05:56:58,475
line 8

Like Taktaal already mentioned the PTS seems to be pretty weird. Here is what EvoDemux tells me for the first Evo:

Opening file feature.EVO
Reading...
File size: 7124 Mbytes.
VOB number 0 contains 1 video , 7 audio and 19 subpicture streams.
PTM of first video frame = 6FF65122
PTM of last video frame = 800035C9
Duration = 0:49:49.820
VC-1 video stream 0 found!
First PTS = 2FF65122 (+35791394ms)
Substream id = 55
Profile = Advanced
Level = 3
Chroma Format = 4:2:0
Size = 1920x1080
Display size = 1920x1080
Aspect ratio = 1:1 (square samples)
Frame Rate = 23,976 (24000/1001)

Is it at least possible to manually calculate the right timestamps?

[Taktaal]

I'm carefully guessing that it could be a bug in Evodemux. Pelican9 should probably have a look at it, he's the EVO specialist.

As for manually adjusting:
Start the movie, then note down at what time the first line is spoken. Subtract that time from the timestamp of line 1, then use that as a time correction value in SupRip.

[koutou]

Can someone tell me if it is possible to produce blu-ray subtitles with this tool from an srt file?
What I do is convert srt to sup with subtitle creator, then import into SUPread and export to Blu-ray subtitles. But the sup produced is not recognized by tsremux! Has anyone managed to produce tsremux compatible subtitles with this tool?

Thanks!

[Rectal Prolapse]

Last I heard, TSRemux subtitle support doesn't work. I could be wrong.

[idbirch2]

Just come across this tool as I'm trying to figure out how to get the subs at the start in The Hunt For Red October HD-DVD, during the first 5 mins, people talk russian but then it switches to English, the only English .sup file I get from the HD-DVD contains subs for the entire film. How do I figure out which bits I need for the forced subs?

[Taktaal]

I haven't programmed forced subtitle filtering in yet for HD-DVDs. Can you upload or send me the .sup file somewhere so I can see how they're done for HD-DVDs?

[idbirch2]

Sure, I've uploaded the .sup file here (http://www.mediafire.com/?e9ctgcn9mu9).

[mashiwen]

supread works fine for the sups for the movie,but get errors for all the 3 director subs(can only recognize 8XX of 9XX subs)
File is here http://rapidshare.com/files/79495554/sup.rar.html


:helpful:

[mashiwen]

supread works fine for all the subs for movie,but get error for the subs of director commentary,can anyone help?
Here's the sup file,thanks
http://rapidshare.com/files/79495554/sup.rar.html

[Pelican9]

Just come across this tool as I'm trying to figure out how to get the subs at the start in The Hunt For Red October HD-DVD, during the first 5 mins, people talk russian but then it switches to English, the only English .sup file I get from the HD-DVD contains subs for the entire film. How do I figure out which bits I need for the forced subs?

I've checked your sub file and it doesn't contain any forced subs.

[idbirch2]

Thank you for looking into this Pelican9, I guess it must be a Euro import and the forced subs are maybe in a different language.

[Taktaal]

The sup file alone didn't help much, I couldn't see anything that seems to likely be a "forced" bit - unless it's one of the 6 bytes after the time code that I don't know what they are there for. But those are all 0x00 for your sup file. But I think a friend has the Red October disc so I'll get it and try to figure out how forced subtitles are done in HD-DVDs.

[idbirch2]

Hi Taktaal, don't waste your time on this disc, apparantly Paramount fecked it right up! The extras were "accidentally forgotten" and the sub streams are messed up, it wouldn't surprise me if the forced subs were messed up too. Hopefully the movie will be re-released in due course.

[tjf]

Is there a way to rip the subtitles from HD DVD or Blu-Ray and mux it to mkv without OCR in VobSub format?

[manusse]

Hi,

You can use SubtitleCreator to import HD-DVD subtitles (no BD support at present) and save them to the VobSub format. There is no OCR in the process. However, VobSub is a SD (not HD) format. So the definition and the colors of the HD subtitles will be degraded. They will be equivalent to current DVD subtitles.

Hope this helps.
Manusse

[tjf]

Hi,

You can use SubtitleCreator to import HD-DVD subtitles (no BD support at present) and save them to the VobSub format.

I tried that, but it did not work.

I have SubtitleCreator 2.2. I demuxed the HD DVD subtitles with EvoDemux. It is cca 36MB sup file. Then in SubtitleCreator I go to Tools, Manipulate SUP or VobSub, Open sub. and load the subtitles, but nothing happens.

Can you help?

Thanks

[saint-francis]

I am also having this problem for the first time. I have riped and re riped the disk and the .SUP files just do nothing when loaded into subtitle creator. I have had great success with the process otherwise. This may be an EVOdemux problem though since when I choose read .xpl the number of .SUP files changes. I wold be more than happy to upload one of the .SUP's.

Maybe a new thread should be started about this?

[manusse]

Please post the incriminated sup file (use a file sharing site). I'll have a look.

Cheers

Manusse

[tjf]

Please post the incriminated sup file (use a file sharing site). I'll have a look.

Here is mine:

http://rapidshare.com/files/83823035/Feature_1_MERGED.8bitRLC.s00.English_SDH.sup.html

[manusse]

Ok, I've found and fixed the bug. It will work with next version (2.3) which should be out within 1 month.
If you want a beta to test it, PM me your email.

Cheers
Manusse

[saint-francis]

Please post the incriminated sup file (use a file sharing site). I'll have a look

And mine too:

http://rapidshare.com/files/83861383/EVOB001.Subpicture.01.sup.html

[Rectal Prolapse]

Taktaal, I have a question on suprip.

According to this decription:

This command outputs the content of the sup file to a series of PNG images that can then be passed to another OCR software.
titles_per_image is an optional value that sets how many lines should be added to a PNG before the next one starts (default 20)
spacing is how many empty pixels are added between subtitles (default 100)

Does this mean you can't have each subtitle in its own PNG image file, in proper HD resolution? Or will suprip try to cram as many subtitles into a PNG image as possible?

I hope not - as I would like to use the PNG files directly into Scenarist for creating my own Blu-ray movies with custom subtitles (ie. taken from HD-DVD sources).

Thanks for your response!

[manusse]

And mine too:

And a new bug fixed! :)

Cheers
Manusse

PS: Please post a message in SubtitleCreator's thread when you find a bug.

[saint-francis]

A bug in the new SubtitleCreator Beta:

The preview on the right which usually shows a list of the subtitles on the SUP is messed up. It's always blank aside from some random noise at the bottom of the box. When scrolling the noise always remains on the bottom.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x270/saint-francis-photos/Untitled-1-1.jpg

[manusse]

A bug in the new SubtitleCreator Beta:

The preview on the right which usually shows a list of the subtitles on the SUP is messed up. It's always blank aside from some random noise at the bottom of the box. When scrolling the noise always remains on the bottom.


I think it's not a bug. Actually the SUP file format (HD and SD) holds bitmaps plus their positions and sizes on the video window. What happens in your subs is that their sizes is the size of the whole video i.e. the bitmap plus an empty background that fills the whole video window. So what you see on the right are 720x574 pixel (if you've set your window to PAL) subtitles that SubtitleCreator tries to display in a very small preview window so it looks like a big empty box with some kind of noise at the bottom (if your subs are at the bottom of the window) but it isn't. If you select this sub you will see it fine in the big preview window.

You can save your subs to png to see this clearly.

But some other SUP holds only a small window around the subtitles and it this case the small preview shows them much better.

My conclusion: The problems are in the subs. Otherwise, if the problem concerns SubtitleCreator, please post in the corresponding thread (also in the stickies) and not here. Thanks.

Cheers
Manusse

[Pelican9]

Hi everybody!
I'm still in Africa but I've worked on SUPread a little, but I don't know if is there anybody who need this program. I've just finished the BD strean export, so you can convert the HD DVD subtitle stream to BD subtitle stream. I'm working on the .srt import, with this function you can make a BD stream from an .srt. I didn't follow these topics here, so please tell me if somebody else has already made a tool for these functions. I'll upload the new beta soon (I hope).
Pel

[hm10]

Hi everybody!
I'm still in Africa but I've worked on SUPread a little, but I don't know if is there anybody who need this program. I've just finished the BD strean export, so you can convert the HD DVD subtitle stream to BD subtitle stream. I'm working on the .srt import, with this function you can make a BD stream from an .srt. I didn't follow these topics here, so please tell me if somebody else has already made a tool for these functions. I'll upload the new beta soon (I hope).
Pel

nobody created tool that can import subtitle stream to M2TS or EVO

and yes we need it :)

[laserfan]

I used it just the other day, and it worked SENSATIONALLY well!

Dunno about the new BD functions, but what you've built in SUPread is very much appreciated, thanks! :D

[jamos]

nobody created tool that can import subtitle stream to M2TS or EVO

and yes we need it :)

I second that!