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Amnon82
21st August 2005, 16:00
Beta 25 is out now. I added some new features.

Now You can Load/Save Batchlists and also merge saved lists to one.
Also I reenabled the languages. Please update Your translations to the newest Version.
Also some bugs are killed now ;)

To get AutoQ2 smaler I did a new packing. So it only works on NTOSs atm.
If somebody runs Win9x please tell me.

Zyphon
21st August 2005, 16:38
@Zyphon: Thx for using my program. I did a good job with it. Some features are still missing, but I have them in my mind ;) If You have some sugestions, spit it out :D
Thanks. The prediction engine is very good and I am very impressed by this tool, like I said the quality was excellent and this tool is very easy to use.

I do have one suggestion, I would also love to see ASPA prediction as my friend Luis (Prodater64) suggested I think this would be the icing on the cake as they say.

If it could be implemented then that would be fantastic, you could even do a seperate calc tool called AutoQ2 ASPA so not to mess up AutoQ2 as it currently stands but I leave that up to you. :D

Great work I shall run some more tests today or tomorrow. :D

Keep up the great work. :)

Zyphon
21st August 2005, 16:45
Oh I forgot to mention.

On the Basic tab, the 'Easy Settings' the options are greyed out is this normal? Is this a future feature that will come in newere releases?

Thanks in advance. :)

buzzqw
21st August 2005, 18:09
just a note (before i publish the italian translation)

i can check BOTH PFF and UFF (not one or other)

BHH

Amnon82
21st August 2005, 18:59
Easy Settings will come in a next release.
PFF is Progressive Frame Flag. UFF is Upper Frame First. Yes it is normal that You can check both. Some people need it.

Here a quote form needle of the AutoQ-Thread:

Assuming that PFF means "Progresive frame flag" and UFF "Upper field first" as in QCCE, why is not possible to select both PFF and UFF, or unselect both PFF and UFF?

Out of the CCE Faqs:

Q10: What's the deal with the "Upper Field First" option? I heard it has a bug?

The confusion about this option arises from that it works different from what you think. Naturally, you'd think that you set this option according to the field order of the video to be encoded, that is, deactivate it if source is bff (bottom field first) and activate it if source is tff (top field first). However, when you do this the encoded video plays back jerky with artifacts typical for incorrect field order.

So how do we set it right? First, you have to know that CCE (SP as well as Basic) always outputs video that is flagged "top field first" (there is a flag in the MPEG header that tells the player which field of the decoded frame to display first on a TV screen). There is no way in CCE to change this. According to Custom Technology, this is not a bug but a feature of CCE... Actually what happens if you check "Upper Field First" is that CCE assumes that source is bff and converts it to tff so it complies with the always set tff flag. It does so by shifting each frame up by one line, ensuring that the previously bottom fields are now top fields and the video is played back correctly. This is not the most sophisticated way to handle the situation, but it works and you won't notice the missing line at the top.

So here is the rule of thumb: Always uncheck "Upper Field First" unless your video is interlaced AND bottom field first. Progressive material is always top field first. To check whether your interlaced video is bottom field first, use the following AVISynth script:
Code:

#Use Mpeg2Source() for MPEG2 video AVISource("E:\Video\holiday.avi") AssumeBFF() SeparateFields()

Now open this script in Windows Media Player. If all movements and horizontal pans look smooth, it's definitely bottom field first, but if you notice stuttery/jerkiness, it's top field first.

If for some reason you want to encode bff video without that line shift, there are two ways to do this:

1. Frameserve bff video into CCE via AVISynth and convert it to tff "the right way". Here is a basic AVISynth script that does this:
Code:

AVISource("E:\Video\holiday.avi") DoubleWeave().SelectOdd()

Uncheck "Upper Field First" in CCE and encode.
2. Uncheck "Upper Field First" and encode bff video directly. Then use ReStream to clear the top field first flag in the MPV file CCE generated. Load the MPV into ReStream, uncheck "top field first" and click "Write!".

And here out of the AutoQ2-Manual:

Settings (by Drob):

PAL progressive
PFF,GOP12,25FPS,ZZ,TC0x000000

PAL Interlaced
GOP12,25FPS,ALT,TC0x000000

NTSC 23.976 prog
UFF,PFF,GOP12,23.976FPS,ZZ,TC0x000000

NTSC 23.976 interlaced
UFF,GOP12,23,97FPS,ALT,PULLDOWN,TC0x100000

NTSC 29.976 prog
PFF,GOP15,29,97FPS,ZZ,TC0x000000

NTSC 29.976 interlaced
PFF,GOP15,29.976FPS,ALT,TC0x000000

... thats why You can check both. Case closed ;)

Prodater64
21st August 2005, 19:19
Hi Amnon82, how are you.
I have another suggestion.
In 25 > 25 fps conversions you can add an option to do automatic DGPulldown.
You can find out in http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=98209 an app i coded to give command line supports to DGPulldown.
More than this, if you can do that AutoQ2 reads horizontal resolution and source fps (with a avifile32.dll api for instance) from avs script, AutoQ2 could set DGPuldown flag automatically, when source pal, destination pal and horizontal resolution 240 or 480.

Amnon82
21st August 2005, 20:20
Changes:

0.6.8 B26:
* Easy Settings added
* Please test Easy Settings.
* I hope I did a good job with it.

Settings (by Drob):

PAL progressive
PFF,GOP12,25FPS,ZZ,TC0x000000

PAL Interlaced
GOP12,25FPS,ALT,TC0x000000

NTSC 23.976 prog
UFF,PFF,GOP12,23.976FPS,ZZ,TC0x000000

NTSC 23.976 interlaced
UFF,GOP12,23,97FPS,ALT,PULLDOWN,TC0x100000

NTSC 29.976 prog
PFF,GOP15,29,97FPS,ZZ,TC0x000000

NTSC 29.976 interlaced
PFF,GOP15,29.976FPS,ALT,TC0x000000

Please test if You can do all settings. Only in 23.97 You can check both (UFF/PFF). Hope I didn't a mistake with Easysettings.

@Prodater: Thx for the Tip, but I need to fix all the bugs in the Beta 26 to go on. Maybe I'll add it in a later version.

Zyphon
21st August 2005, 22:05
Changes:

0.6.8 B26:
* Easy Settings added
* Please test Easy Settings.
* I hope I did a good job with it.



Please test if You can do all settings. Only in 23.97 You can check both (UFF/PFF). Hope I didn't a mistake with Easysettings.



Thank you, thank you, thank you for enabling the easy settings, I shall give it a test. :D
:thanks:

Amnon82
22nd August 2005, 16:36
Give it a test in Version B27. B26 has a bug in Easy Settings.

Amnon82
23rd August 2005, 02:25
I realy got in trouble with the UFF/TFF thing. THX to drob for explaining it to me.

To get TFF:

2.50 uncheck UFF (OSL)
in 2.67 check tff and uncheck UFF (OSL)
in 2.70 check tff and uncheck UFF (OSL)

If You have interlaced and bff:

2.50 uncheck TFF and check UFF (OSL)
2.67 uncheck TFF and check UFF (OSL)
2.70 uncheck TFF and check UFF (OSL)

I hope I'm right drob ...

Amnon82
24th August 2005, 09:13
0.7.0 RC1:
* Yoop, we got an release canidate ;)
* RC Notes:
+TFF is only for CCE 2.70 enabled.
+UFF in 2.50 Mode: simple check UFF.
+UFF in 2.67 Mode: simple check OSL.
+UFF in 2.70 Mode:
++If the source is BFF check OSL and TFF
++If the source is TFF uncheck OSL and keep TFF checked.
+BFF in 2.70 Mode: To encode in BFF uncheck TFF.
* Updated italian, english and german language file to 0.7.0 RC1
* This version works only on NT-OSs!!!!

ATM my homepage is down. So I uploaded it to megaupload:

Download 0.7.0 RC1 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=34CVFQYE)

Zyphon
24th August 2005, 17:51
Thanks for the update Amnon82 and congrats on getting this tool to RC status. :)

Will run some tests.

PS: What happened to the 'Add all Movies to the same DVD' checkbox, did you decide against incorporating this feature?

If I want to do 2 DVD movies to one DVD, I would predict them using a target size of 2238MB for each movie to fit on one DVDR?

Prodater64
24th August 2005, 18:20
* This version works only on NT-OSs!!!!
Download 0.7.0 RC1 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=34CVFQYE)


Does it mean not XP neither 2000?

drob
24th August 2005, 18:29
You can run it on all pure 32bit code systems, that is 2000, XP, 2003.

Amnon82
24th August 2005, 19:11
This version works only on NT-OSs!!!! means that AutoQ2 won't run on Win9x Systems.
(Not in the way I released it, cos I added a special code to the exe which won't work on Win9x)

Out of the Features-List of AutoQ2:

Coded for Windows 2000 & WinXP

Amnon82
24th August 2005, 22:13
I finaly got a new homepage. The new URL will be: http://www.autoq2.fx.to/

Also drob explained me how to encode BFF with CCE 2.70:

PFF=0, TFF=0, OSL=0... this would be for keeping a bff at the same state, why god knows.
PFF=0, TFF=0, OSL=1... transferring a tff into bff, why don't know .

Zyphon
24th August 2005, 22:30
@Amnon82

Congrats on the new homepage being sorted out.

Btw did you read my reply in post #62 a few posts up. I wanted to know about the 'Add all movies to one DVD' and about the adjustment of the target final to a lower MB to fit both movies onto one DVD.

Thanks. :D

Amnon82
24th August 2005, 22:36
I only unvisible it. It is planed and it will come soon. Now I have to write the manuals to get final.

Zyphon
25th August 2005, 01:42
I only unvisible it. It is planed and it will come soon. Now I have to write the manuals to get final.

Thanks for the info.

I think I have found a bug in the 0.7.0 RC1 version.

I can do a single encodes fine but when I click the 'Do the Batchlist' I get an error pop up.

See pic below:

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/1182/autoq2err7zl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Thanks to ImageShack for Free Image Hosting (http://imageshack.us)

Prodater64
25th August 2005, 01:57
In advanced tab when you put a mark in check box "Disable adaptive Q-Matrix Switching" log shows "Adaptive Q-Matrix Switching on" and vice versa.

I dont now if log is wrong or if checbox text is wrong.
It is to say. Checking box means enabled, then text is wrong, or means disabled, so log is wrong.

Prodater64
25th August 2005, 02:19
I need to hit CCE encode button each prediction round.
It dont finished, an error arise, access violation at address 0043EE3c in module...

Prodater64
25th August 2005, 04:34
AutoQ2 dont accepts avs scripts as:


video1=Mpeg2Dec3dg_Mpeg2source("xxx.d2v",cpu=4)
video2=Mpeg2Dec3dg_Mpeg2source("xxx.d2v",cpu=4)
last=video1++video2

GripCrop(704, 576, overscan=2, dest_anamorphic=true)
GripSize(resizer="LanczosResize")

RemoveGrain()
Deen()

GripBorders()

Zyphon
25th August 2005, 09:32
In advanced tab when you put a mark in check box "Disable adaptive Q-Matrix Switching" log shows "Adaptive Q-Matrix Switching on" and vice versa.

I dont now if log is wrong or if checbox text is wrong.
It is to say. Checking box means enabled, then text is wrong, or means disabled, so log is wrong.
Hi Luis, yes I am confused also.

The checkbox for Disable Q-Matrix switching, if you tick it which I thought meant to disable it. The window below says that the Q-Matrix switching is activated and so I left it unticked as when it unticked this it said Q-Matrix switching off.

I think this is back-to-front and very confusing. :confused:

drob
25th August 2005, 14:03
I just checked the actual ecl created file, Disable Q-Matrix switching as working as you expect, its the log that is wrong. tick to disable, untick to enable Q-Matrix switching, Amnon just needs to change the log readout.

Zyphon
25th August 2005, 20:58
I just checked the actual ecl created file, Disable Q-Matrix switching as working as you expect, its the log that is wrong. tick to disable, untick to enable Q-Matrix switching, Amnon just needs to change the log readout.

Thanks for the info drob very useful to know :D

@Amnon82

There is still a typo in the GUI which has been there for the last lot of releases including RC2.

In the Basic tab:

The framerate: The 29.976 should be 29.97 or 29.970 whichever you prefer. I just thougt I would point out that out and make you aware of it. :D

Amnon82
25th August 2005, 21:08
Changes in RC2a:

* Log fixed (Adaptive Q-Matrix-Switching)
* Fixed Batch-Bug (Only in UK-Date-Mode it happend.)
* Updated italian, english, spanish and german language file to 0.7.0 RC2/RC1

The UK-Date-Bug is gone (I hope. Please test it Zyphon. In Germany the Date-Format is 25.08.05 and not 25/08/05. In RC2a I also replace the '/'-signs.)
Also the misunderstanding Batch-Log-line is fixed now.

AutoQ2 runs only on Win2k, WinXP (maybe WinXP64 and Win2k3)

When You have problems with AutoQ2 please post also the CCE Version You're running. Discribe also the exact way. If You using 2.70 please check CCEFix in the Setup-Window to get the encode-Button-Bug solved.

If there still are problems, give me a PM or talk on MSN/ICQ if You know my numbers.

AutoQ2 doesn't accept AVS like:

video1=Mpeg2Dec3dg_Mpeg2source("xxx.d2v",cpu=4)
video2=Mpeg2Dec3dg_Mpeg2source("xxx.d2v",cpu=4)
last=video1++video2

GripCrop(704, 576, overscan=2, dest_anamorphic=true)
GripSize(resizer="LanczosResize")

RemoveGrain()
Deen()

GripBorders()

Thats right, cos the prediction AVS will be like this:

#AVS Created by AutoQ2 0.7.0 RC2a
#_________________________________
Import("C:\Tools\AutoQ2\temp\AQ2PREDTEMP.avs")
loadplugin("C:\tools\dec\DGDecode.dll")
ping = mpeg2source("H:\TESTAUTOQ2\interlaced.d2v").AutoQ2Prediction(1,12,1,"ping")
pong = mpeg2source("H:\TESTAUTOQ2\interlaced.d2v").AutoQ2Prediction(1,12,1,"pong")
last = ping++pong
Subtitle("AutoQ2 Ver. 0.7.0 RC2a Prediction - (C) 2005 by Amnon82", 35, 35, 25, 125, font="georgia", size=12, text_color=$ffFFFF)
#===========Original AVS with marked Source and LoadPlugins=============
#loadplugin("C:\tools\dec\DGDecode.dll")
#mpeg2source("H:\TESTAUTOQ2\interlaced.d2v")
#========End of Original AVS with marked Source and LoadPlugins=========

Original AVS was:

loadplugin("C:\tools\dec\DGDecode.dll")
mpeg2source("H:\TESTAUTOQ2\interlaced.d2v")

Prodater64
25th August 2005, 22:05
@Amnon82: So you cant load more than 1 video for avs script?

Amnon82
25th August 2005, 23:42
Atm yes ...

AutoQ does it, cos there is the old prediction-mode in it.

Zyphon
26th August 2005, 15:40
@Amnon

Thank you for the latest version and bug fixes. However while you correct the error of the framerate 29.976 to 29.97 which is correct, you now also edited the 23.976 to 23.97 which is incorrect.

The framerates should be: 23.976, 24, 25, 29.97 & 30.

'Disable Adaptive Q-Switching' is showing up fine in the log. :)

Thanks for the updates. :D

Amnon82
26th August 2005, 19:05
Thx Zyphon. I'll change the littel bug with the next release ;)

Amnon82
26th August 2005, 21:41
RC3 is out now. Now You can load all AVS-Scripts.
Croatian Language is added now.

Zyphon
26th August 2005, 22:30
Thx Zyphon. I'll change the littel bug with the next release ;)

Great thanks Amnon82, keep up the great work. :D

Amnon82
27th August 2005, 19:07
You'r always welcome. I hope RC3 has no bugs ;)

drob
27th August 2005, 20:43
Tested RC3 , worked for me lol

Amnon82
27th August 2005, 21:55
I found some little bugs in RC3. So RC3a is online now. (shit happend ;))

Amnon82
28th August 2005, 11:53
I hope RC4 is now a final release. Please test it. I hope I killed all bugs ;)

Since the new homepage is only I have more than 100 visits in 3 days :D

Zyphon
28th August 2005, 13:38
THanks for the update Amnon82 I will test it out as soon as my current encodes are finished. :)

Amnon82
28th August 2005, 13:50
k. Thx. One Question:

Is the installer in german or also in english?

072 Installer (http://amnon82.cybton.com/files/AutoQ2_072_Setup.exe)

@Zyphon: If you want, You can check my manual. Maybe my english is not so good as I wish. For languagefixing I'll be happy ;)

drob
28th August 2005, 15:42
k. Thx. One Question:

Is the installer in german or also in english?

072 Installer (http://amnon82.cybton.com/files/AutoQ2_072_Setup.exe)

@Zyphon: If you want, You can check my manual. Maybe my english is not so good as I wish. For languagefixing I'll be happy ;)
It is German for me Amnon.

Amnon82
28th August 2005, 17:13
0.7.2 RC4a: (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=34XSBENI)
* Fixed 'Wanted Samplesize get Zero during batch'-Bug
* Fixed 'Loading Chapters during batch'-Bug
* Fixed some other bugs

THX drob. I'll search for another installer ;)
My homepage is today down. Please use the megauploadlink.

Zyphon
28th August 2005, 18:24
k. Thx. One Question:

Is the installer in german or also in english?

072 Installer (http://amnon82.cybton.com/files/AutoQ2_072_Setup.exe)

@Zyphon: If you want, You can check my manual. Maybe my english is not so good as I wish. For languagefixing I'll be happy ;)

I will try it out, is there any chance of a zip version as well as the .exe installer one please. :D

Amnon82
28th August 2005, 18:38
yes there is: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=34UXIQ2X

@all: Please tell me, if You find a bug in RC4a.

Amnon82
2nd September 2005, 19:18
Some People have troubles with the exe-compression I'm using atm. I'll upload RC5 today. Lets see if it fix the problem ... My homepage is online again.

Zyphon
3rd September 2005, 08:07
yes there is: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=34UXIQ2X

@all: Please tell me, if You find a bug in RC4a.
Thanks for the zip version. :)

Amnon82
4th September 2005, 11:37
You can also download the final. It is zipped and installer. www.autoq2.fx.to

Amnon82
5th September 2005, 16:44
Interrested in getting a coder of AutoQ2?

If You're a Delphi(7+)-Coder You can write me a PM. Maybe we get AutoQ2 even better.

I fixed the 0.7.6 and uploaded it again.

Amnon82
8th September 2005, 08:19
AutoQ2 0.7.6 is still buggy. I messed up the renaming-feature for batch-mode. Also the shutdown-function for batch still doesn't work. To do the batchmode keep 0.7.5 running till I fixed it in 0.7.6. What else is buggy in the actual version?

Amnon82
9th September 2005, 00:17
I've realy go to sleep now ;)

Test 0.7.7. I hope I found them all I did in 0.7.6 - Bugless ?

Jibreil
9th September 2005, 21:50
I've realy go to sleep now ;)

Test 0.7.7. I hope I found them all I did in 0.7.6 - Bugless ?

Hi Anmon82

I ran AutoQ Prediction 0.77 and it showed my Final Q as 37.
The next time I ran it, it showed me '2'

I even uninstall and re-installed the program, yet it keeps showing me '2'

Jibreil
9th September 2005, 21:52
Do I actually need to CCE with my own Template Settings along with AutoQ2?