ANN: SubRip 1.50 b4

[LeXXuz]

@LeXXuz and muci

Try this: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1178709#post1178709

Cheers
Manusse

You're the man, Manusse! :thanks:

Now it works just fine. :D

Do you know what this option does, and when it is needed?

[Mugeb]

Thanks for the link Manusse.

[Betsy25]

I have some problems with SubRip not correctly detecting the subtitle timings.

After I created a Movie only image with DVD Shrink, and after removing the first 30 seconds (little intro) from the movie, using DVD Shrink "Set Start/End Frames" option, and re-creating the DVD.

If I play the resulting DVD image DVD Shrink created in MPC, the subtitles appear correctly, however when you use a subtitle extracter like SubRip, it will "see" the wrong timings for the subs.

For example, using the Set Start Frame in Shrink, If you remove the first 30 seconds of a movie, Subrip will misread the subs by those 30 seconds. In other words, It "sees" the original times from before Shrink cut away the first 30 secs.

I cannot use the "timing adjustment" options from SubRip since DVD Shrink will only show some like "30s, 21frames" when repositioning the start of the resulting movie.

Is that a known problem please, or did I do something incorrectly ?

[Daveyboyc]

does anyone have a solution for ripping dvb subtitles (i.e from tv recordings) using subrip/other ocr?
i've been trying to do it for ages and cant find a good solution.
i really need it to work as i'm trying to build a database from tv recordings using the subtitles (in text format) whereby i can search through recording using keyword search terms.

any ideas?

[Weirdo]

A never before experienced OCR issue: After a while of proper recognition, with the usual Bold-Blue characters, transparent characters show up (screen #1), forcing me to manually enter the whole subtitle.
The weirdness continues with garbled characters (#2) and 'undetectable' ones ('halfway' detection, #3).
Could this be a dvd rip issue? (Clone DVD with latest Any DVD in the background, subtitle transparency option, unchecked). Never had this problem.

Thanks


http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/153/subripissue.th.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/my.php?image=subripissue.jpg) http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8531/subripissue2.th.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=subripissue2.jpg) http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2369/subripissue3.th.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/my.php?image=subripissue3.jpg)

[nurbs]

Try the "change text color" button. Sometimes SubRip autodetects the wrong colors and causes issues like #1 and #3. Alternatively the subtitle itself may be the problem, but it's unlikely to be a rip issue unless you have problems with the audio and video as well.

[Weirdo]

Thanks nurbs, selecting the white colour alone, saved me some time, #2 remains (looks like bad dvd authoring).
A minor problem I discovered now is that many of Subrip's options/icons disappear (out of window) due to my high DPI setting. They can be selected with tab/enter of course, but playing with Vista's 'compatibility' options didn't help.

[vjHeaven]

Hello guys
My problem is:
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7586/40355325.th.png (http://img149.imageshack.us/i/40355325.png/)

The subtitle position seems to be lower then usual and it`s not scanned entirely. The problem appear only at the first VOB.
What can i do in this situation?

[Weirdo]

Looks similar to my previous post (screen #2). Only solution I could find is to enter it manually... :(

[dwrbudr]

Can someone help me rip these subtitles? SubRip freezes after the first line. There are probably corrupt, is there any way to fix them?

http://4storing.com/y3qc0r/da1d8845e7da656a0eda665a8e746740.html

Click on the blue button and wait a minute then download the file.

[deank]

Can someone help me rip these subtitles? SubRip freezes after the first line. There are probably corrupt, is there any way to fix them?


Try again with these re-processed: link (http://rapidshare.com/files/271868918/ttm.rar)

[dwrbudr]

How did you fix them?

[deank]

With bdsup2sub.

[Weirdo]

Tried to open the subs that caused me a similar problem with SubRip, but BDSup2Sup gives "Unexpected command 0 at index 0x00000012". This (http://rapidshare.com/files/272569927/25.rar) is the dvd-extracted .sup file. It seems to open with Subtitle Creator but no time to check atm.pass=subsub

[0xdeadbeef]

Tried to open the subs that caused me a similar problem with SubRip, but BDSup2Sup gives "Unexpected command 0 at index 0x00000012". This (http://rapidshare.com/files/272569927/25.rar) is the dvd-extracted .sup file. It seems to open with Subtitle Creator but no time to check atm.

If you would have bothered to read BDSup2Sub's online documentation, you would know that BDSup2Sub assumes a SUP file starting with "SP" to be a HD-DVD-SUP. Since indeed DVD-SUP and HD-DVD-SUP share the same package structure, it is not that easy do differentiate between both formats at first look.
Anyway, just copy a dummy IFO with the same name in the same directory and load that instead. You'll see that BDSup2Sub will import your sample without a single warning. If you don't have a dummy IFO file, simply create one by exporting another subtitle to SUP/IFO.

[PatlaborForce]

I don't know how many people are interested but I started a port of SubRip to C#. that I've called SubRipX (http://code.google.com/p/subripx/). At this point I'm just recreating all the GUI forms in WinForms to start out with and hopefully by the end of next week I will finish with that, since I can't devote my full time the next couple weeks to this, so I can start the major part of the porting.

[vartaxe]

I don't know how many people are interested but I started a port of SubRip to C#. that I've called SubRipX (http://code.google.com/p/subripx/). At this point I'm just recreating all the GUI forms in WinForms to start out with and hopefully by the end of next week I will finish with that, since I can't devote my full time the next couple weeks to this, so I can start the major part of the porting.

one word -> awesome!:thanks:

[ai4spam]

@PatlaborForce:
As I suggested earlier to Gokumon when he said he was starting a similar project (see previous page of this thread): start by using some C source from guliverkli: http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/ . That will give you C code that reads and writes .idx/.sub files properly (VSRip http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303&package_id=84442 ), and even does OCR (SubResync). Obviously a lot of things will still be missing, but it's a start.

[muci]

Hy! I have a bit of problem. I'm trying to rip IDX subtitles. When i load them in SubRip, I also load my CHMatrix, which has almost all characters, but for some reason it doesn't recognize it now. Here's the picture.
http://www.shrani.si/?2Q/qe/1GyC3OgD/subrip.png
What should I do?

[medp7060]

The enclosed files can be correctly opened and used by VobSub, but both cannot be processed by SubRip 1.50 b4 correctly.

181.sup - the original DVB subtitle demuxed by ProjextX

181.idx/181.sub - Vobsub directly converted from 181.sup by SubtitleCreator v2.3rc1

182.idx/182.sub - Vobsub converted from 181.sup by SubtitleCreator v2.3rc1 after adjusted the colours into black/white.

http://rapidshare.com/files/332391856/181sup.rar

Does SubRip lack the ability to process DVB subtitles? I have no problem to OCR DVD subtitles.

[osgZach]

Sorry if this has been asked before (its a huge thread after all), but I'd like to know how (if possible) to prevent Subrip from skipping ANY subtitle line for any reason.

For instance, when I finished OCR'ing some subs, the main program window lists the total VOB Pictures as 39, but the text window after OCR only goes up to Index 37 and says 2 were skipped for being too short/small ?

I looked around but can't tell what to change (if anything, hopefully) to prevent this from happening. I at least want to know that it isn't crucial dialogue or something I can correct myself. I turned "Skip subtitles shorter than" down to 0ms in gobal options, but that didn't seem to change anything.. Is it something under Advanced OCR?

[Mauron]

Any news about this good program?

[vartaxe]

i would say subrip just like subtitle workshop are dead projects right know...

[lych_necross]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/crushedbyastereo/darth_vader_nooo1.jpg

[Mauron]

So, is there an alternative and supported program that can do what SubRip does?

[lych_necross]

Maybe, I still use Subrip as it works fine for me. You could try easySUP (its still actively developed).

[Rarok]

Hello, Ive been using from a time ago subrip for getting the subs from DVDs and it always worked perfectly. But now I'm trying to use it for hardsubs and I'm being crazy with it. I'm always getting white zones that I can't take off without deleting the real text.

I'm using the Fill: Open and large areas, and the color text at 30. The only thing I didn't tried are the Frames options, but I don't undertand how they work, at least I undertand that the Skip First is when the text has fading but it's not the thing so I put it on 0, but for "update every" and "min.duration" I don't know if they can help me.

[Prettz]

Hello, Ive been using from a time ago subrip for getting the subs from DVDs and it always worked perfectly. But now I'm trying to use it for hardsubs and I'm being crazy with it. I'm always getting white zones that I can't take off without deleting the real text.

I'm using the Fill: Open and large areas, and the color text at 30. The only thing I didn't tried are the Frames options, but I don't undertand how they work, at least I undertand that the Skip First is when the text has fading but it's not the thing so I put it on 0, but for "update every" and "min.duration" I don't know if they can help me.
I just started playing around today with using SubRip to pull hardcoded subs from a Divx file -- one with low resolution and terrible video quality, unfortunately. I'm still playing around with the maze of buttons to figure out what does what and why, but not making much progress. The OCR seems to pick up on everything EXCEPT the subtitles, even when I click the image to pick a text and outline color. The low quality and video resolution means the text itself is full of slightly different colors due to compression, and SubRip doesn't seem to be able to handle that. I'll be checking back in this thread if I've had any breakthroughs -- or if I've made no progress at all.

Right now I'm working on instead feeding SubRip an avisynth script full of filters to denoise, smooth, and flatten everything out so the finicky OCR can pick out the letters. MSmooth is my current hopeful for doing most of the work, but it still doesn't seem to be enough.

The ability to scan hardcoded subs out of arbitrary video files is a genius feature, god bless whoever wrote it, but it's definitely still incomplete.

[TheFluff]

OCR only works decently if the letters look similar each time they appear and if edges are easily detectable. Your video sounds like it doesn't fulfill either of those requirements so no OCR engine will be able to make much sense of it. It's probably faster to just copy the subs by hand.

[Prettz]

OCR only works decently if the letters look similar each time they appear and if edges are easily detectable. Your video sounds like it doesn't fulfill either of those requirements so no OCR engine will be able to make much sense of it. It's probably faster to just copy the subs by hand.
You're right about my video being total crap. But I'm determined to use the OCR; for one thing, I've got to get the timings. There's no way I'm going to do the entire subtitling process by hand (and for the first time ever), hell no. So I at least needed to try to get it so SubRip could recognize when there are subs and when there aren't, otherwise it interrupts every few frames and asks me to enter the entire subtitle (when there isn't one on screen).

After tons of trial and error I've finally come up with an Avisynth script that gets SubRip to behave acceptably. Although there's probably more I could do, I don't have much experience using filters to dramatically change the picture. After playing around with other options I came back to MSmooth because it does the effect I need best. There was also no way to get any kind of acceptable results without feeding SubRip a greatly upscaled video res.

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\Avisynth 2.5\plugins\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\Avisynth 2.5\plugins\FluxSmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\Avisynth 2.5\plugins\MSmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\Avisynth 2.5\plugins\WarpSharpYV12.dll")


AviSource("E:\Video2\Anime\Kiki's Delivery Service (sub).avi") #560x320

Crop(32,252,-32,0,align=true) #496x68

FluxSmoothST(4,4)
RemoveGrain(mode=1)

BicubicResize(1736,238,b=1/3,c=1/3)
RemoveGrain(mode=1)
MSmooth(threshold=20,strength=5,chroma=true,highq=true)
RemoveGrain(mode=1)
WarpSharp(depth=90,blur=4)
FluxSmoothST(6,6)
RemoveGrain(mode=1)

ConvertToRGB32()
LanczosResize(992,136)
ConvertToRGB24()

My use of FluxSmooth here probably isn't having any helpful effect, but I don't think it's having a detrimental effect on the picture for the later filters, so I keep it there "just in case". Same thing with RemoveGrain. The text still has many different shades of yellow and yellow-green in it (even within the same letter) and there's definitely nothing that can be done about that. So I needed jack the OCR's text color tolerance way, way up.

I'm still not sure whether the filtering task I'm trying to accomplish would be more effective in YV12, with subsampled chroma, or in a 1:1 color space. No way to test that, obviously, so it's just a theoretical question.

[Prettz]

I seem to have triggered an infinite loop in SubRip when I was in the "View/Edit Character Matrix" dialog while the OCR-from-video-file process was on, but stopped. I pressed the "Delete This Character" button while a zero-character symbol was selected and it did that then froze up. The application doesn't look like it's frozen, but its CPU usage is steady at 100% of one CPU core, and clicking anywhere on its windows just causes Windows' "ding" sound. It's stayed this way for 6 or 7 minutes now. The character matrix was enormous, though; maybe that has something to do with it.

[mr.duck]

I'm trying to turn my sup file (from DVB TV) into srt. Not many programs are compatible with this. So far I managed to demux with projectX and convert it to bitmaps with DVDSupTools all automatically with the video file name passed as a parameter to a batch file.

Now I need to turn the bitmaps to srt with SubRip. I can do it manually by clicking File >> Open Image Sequence and taking it from there. I need to do it with the CLI. Can anyone go through how to set it up please? Because I can't work out how to do it. I can post the results when it is done if anyone is interested too.

[krosswindz]

It would be nice if subrip could join srt files. Subtitle Workshop works but requires the files to be ANSI format. Some of the newer subtitles are either unicode/UTF-8 which it doesnt support afaik.

[Buggle]

It would be nice if subrip could join srt files. Subtitle Workshop works but requires the files to be ANSI format. Some of the newer subtitles are either unicode/UTF-8 which it doesnt support afaik.
It's a bit of killing a fly with an elephant, but you could mux them in MkvToolnix and then extract them. Then they'll be joined.
The other option is to install VobSub with the submodification tool. I do not know its name at this point (as I always only join subs when joining vids, and I use MKV only) but you'll find it soon enough. When installed, it works via the context menu.

[Foofaraw]

It would be nice if subrip could join srt files. Subtitle Workshop works but requires the files to be ANSI format. Some of the newer subtitles are either unicode/UTF-8 which it doesnt support afaik.

Load them into Notepad++ and convert them to Ansi and save them again.

[Frogger13]

For all these with big character matrixes and some wrong character, here's a mod that will allow you to easily identify the bad characters in the Matrix entry and correct/delete them:

Links to unofficial version 1.50 beta 5:

Program: http://www.mediafire.com/?d3aa3rp4a43o0bm

Code: http://www.mediafire.com/?epbh8ifhc8pwzvd

Enjoy

[danideicide]

I have a hardsubed video and i want to get only the timings, can someone tell me how to do it?

[lovelove]

Hi folks. I don't like my .srt output to be formatted (e.g <i>...</i>), so could you help me with either one of the points below:

1) can I tell SubRip not to format the output (i.e. ignore formatting)?
or
2) is there a clean-up operation in SubRip I could perform to delete formatting tags ?
or
3) in "view/edit character matrix": can I deselct the italics checkbox for all glyphs (I have >5000, too many to do this manually one-by-one) ?

thank you!

(PS: I know I can run a search&replace on the output file with any text editor, if I can avoid doing that each time, that would be great.)

[lovelove]

PS: Can SubRip extract/export closed captions (CC)? When selecting files in SubRip which include CCs, SubRip says "Information: Closed Captions detected (2x)". So I was wondering if SubRip can detect them, can SubRip also display and save them to a text file?

Thank you.

[lovelove]

other question: I entered a wrong character in the section marked below (in red circle).
Any ideas how to remove it? All my attempts failed. Thank you.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7388/20110903201846screenhun.png

[Sven Bent]

just a little help
ive uploaded my matrix file for people to grab here

http://www.filedropper.com/sbmatrix

its based on aispam but i did a lot of cleanup on it and have added results from more dvd's


Setup help:
please remember to set sensibility to 1000
and if you have issues with i and the upside down ! in Spanish, then lower "max char top diff..." to 4.


Cleanup:
- Removed all smaller characters (, . ; : ' ") and the alike to avoid wrong detection.
- Removed all "takes with next" characters, since the have a reduced effect to get recognized correctly.
- Removed all instanced of multi character entries
- Manually removed entries based on only partial matching of characters
- Manually removed entries witch contained matching of parts of next/previous character

This was done to reduce false detections as i rather want sub rip to ask me a few more times rather than deliver wrong detections.

[Dean007]

Anyone has the same problem, where you have to always type same letters over and over again?



just a little help
ive uploaded my matrix file for people to grab here

http://www.filedropper.com/sbmatrix

its based on aispam but i did a lot of cleanup on it and have added results from more dvd's

Thank you, might come in handy!

[Sven Bent]

Anyone has the same problem, where you have to always type same letters over and over again?


hmm sounds like the character matrix files is not getting saved/read.

Is your char matrix files in a write protected area ?
If its because the characters looks a bit different even though they are the same you can lower the sensibility for this dvd only

[Dean007]

How do I check for that?

I tried on 2 PCs. First on mine, and then on laptop.

[Sven Bent]

done with the a section of my wife's dvd list so i thougt it was time to reupload my matrix file

http://www.speedyshare.com/zSgmF/SBmatrix.zip

I've done a bit more cleanup. I removed the (few) "°" entries as the sometimes got detected as the beginning of "%"

[Sven Bent]

a new matrix file update

http://speedy.sh/5JRf8/SBmatrix.zip

UPDATES:
I've changed my ways a bit with this one. im now including punctuation signs, since the matrix file is soo big now that it can easily run with even more sensitive settings. I've also includes nodes signs, even when they need a "take with next" approach sin no other character can be confussed with the start of a node sign.

Percentage sign that are only partial detect is now deal as a combination of degree sign, forward slash, degree sign.


RECOMMENDED SETTINGS:
its highly recommend to adjust the OCR sensitivity to the following (Options > Advanced OCR setup > OCR engine setup):
100
1
1
2

also make theses lines in you punct.dic file
°/°
%
to ensure corect handling of percentage signs

Disable "correct capital letters" and "format hole words only"
as they make things worse more often than better

[Sven Bent]

new matrix file updated

http://speedy.sh/sbrpS/SBmatrix.sum

remember to set those ocr setings to
1000
1
1
2

[Sven Bent]

New update

http://speedy.sh/unG6F/SBmatrix.zip
* Had a few more dvd's where it had to detect all character. So plenty of stuff updated plus plenty of dvd's with minor updates to the matrix
* 2 characters deleted as they once got misdetected as wrong case
* Also Im now starting to keep entries of multiple characters

Partial detections, noise ftom neighbour characters and take with next are still cleaned out of the matrix to reduce/remove false detections.


Please remember to set OCR sensitivity to:
1000
1
1
2

[Dean007]

Thank you! Will come in handy :)

[gonwk]

New update

http://speedy.sh/unG6F/SBmatrix.zip
...

Please remember to set OCR sensitivity to:
1000
1
1
2

Hi Sven Bent,

A Newbie question ...

Q1: Where do I put your file?

Q2: OCR Sensitivity ... for my SubRip, are you talking about under "Advanced OCR Setup" tab and under "OCR Engine Setup" for the numbers that you have suggested?

Because on my I think they are currently as follows ..
980
2
2
6

Am I looking at the right place ... see jpg attached.

Thanks,

G! :)