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vio_man
13th May 2005, 11:58
NeroVision Express 3

Version Number: 3.1.0.7

New Features

* Added *.mod to supported video file formats

Bugfixes

* Writing a DVD-Video project failed with Burn-at-once
* Content import problems occurred if the source media was a DVD-RAM written in VR mode
* In some rare cases the application could hang if capturing directly to a DVD-RAM media
* Exporting a video title to uncompressed *.avi format caused a crash in Windows 9x
* In some cases and with certain drives, a runtime error appeared when writing a DVD VR to a DVD-RW media
* If two files, one audio and one video, were added together to the storyboard, the application crashed
* The application sometimes hung if a "Capture to VR" process was interrupted by the user
* If a user changed the volume label while appending video titles to a VR disc, the changes were ignored
* The Windows maximize button was not enabled
* Writing a DVD-Video project to a dual layer DVD-R media failed in some rare cases
* Renamed "Record directly to VR" to "Record directly to DVD"
* In some cases the application crashed when compiling a slide show
* Capturing to HDD using the DV template was not working
* Some MPEG-2 files were out of sync when re-used for a DVD-Video project
* The application showed a 4:3 preview when recording 16:9
* Direct recording using a Mini-DV Camcorder as source was not working
* Dolby(C) Digital 5.1 encoder could produce jumps in the audio stream

G-Slide
13th May 2005, 15:16
Any new encoder version ?

bourtzovlakas
13th May 2005, 16:44
Nero Recode 2

Version Number: 2.2.6.16

(Changes from Package #2, Version 3.1.0.0c ⇒ 3.1.0.7)

Release Date: May 9, 2005
Bugfixes

* It was not possible to start Nero Recode on Windows 98 SE

toke
16th May 2005, 19:20
Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
But we are moving into a totally digital age now. An age in which more and more of us will be buying and connecting devices via DVI and HDMI. An age in which over-scan will be gone... Just like it is now on your VGA display!

Actually world isn't so easy.
There will be something like two decades crt's around this planet and it has been esimated that crt's will go to minority somewhere around 2013.
In US they are still selling "hdtv"-crt's and there will be millions of them after a decade or so.

Meanwhile there is a lot of artistic trouble for moviemakers how to frame their shots in a way that it would show as near as possible the intended compostition.

AFAIK there has been no global or regional agreements about overscan (if any) areas in hd...

SeeMoreDigital
16th May 2005, 20:20
Hi toke,

A few weeks ago I generated a couple of high-def test cards (1No 1280x720 and 1No 1920x1080) and asked some Buffalo LinkTheater and I-O DATA LinkPlayer owners to test them for over-scan with their display devices.

The results were quite alarming!

When the source images are viewed without over-scan, they should look like this: -

http://img74.echo.cx/img74/2259/1280x720overscantest8jo.th.png (http://img74.echo.cx/my.php?image=1280x720overscantest8jo.png)

http://img184.echo.cx/img184/2310/1920x1080overscantest1cx.th.png (http://img184.echo.cx/my.php?image=1920x1080overscantest1cx.png)


However, people are seeing this: -

http://img256.echo.cx/img256/6773/1080i3ue.jpg

http://img41.echo.cx/img41/7208/1080inetwork8qu.jpg


With the 1280x720 encode, around 150 pixels (75 left + 75 right) are lost to over-scan. And with the the 1920x1080 encode, around 230 pixels (115 left + 115 right) are lost to over-scan... And look how much is lost vertically


Cheers

LiFe
17th May 2005, 09:57
Originally posted by toke
Actually world isn't so easy.
There will be something like two decades crt's around this planet and it has been esimated that crt's will go to minority somewhere around 2013.
In US they are still selling "hdtv"-crt's and there will be millions of them after a decade or so.
Where do you get these figures from? I work in product management in a very large IT reseller, and I beleive we started selling more LCD than CRT some months ago. I'd be willing to wager that in 12 months or less, TV sales will see the same thing.

Futher, while TV's lasted a long time when the biggest feature improvement was colour, they're not going to last anywhere near as long when we're seeing features including increased viewable image, decreased size, vastly increased quality and the begining of interactivity.

AFAIK there has been no global or regional agreements about overscan (if any) areas in hd...
With DTV there shouldn't be. Part of the requirements of building a good TV should be little or no overscan as the size of a digital picture is specifically dictated.

toke
17th May 2005, 17:53
Originally posted by LiFe
Where do you get these figures from? I work in product management in a very large IT reseller, and I beleive we started selling more LCD than CRT some months ago. I'd be willing to wager that in 12 months or less, TV sales will see the same thing.

Well, we're living in a world where 90% of people's one months salary is smaller than price for any kinf of flat screen.
My info comes from iSuppli, DisplaySearch, FPDisplay, eeTimes, etc.

How about this:
http://www.displaybank.com/eng2004/column/show.php?c_id=1073&pg=2&device2=&sub_cat=&s_type=&s_word=
"Flat TV is predicted to represent 40% in 2009 surpassing 79.7% based on sales revenue."

I remember that average life of tv is 15 years, although this might come down a bit as quality gets worse and prices lowers, but majority of tv's in this planet will be crt's even in 2020!

...and the begining of interactivity.

I really don't see how interactivity decreases the need for overscan.

With DTV there shouldn't be. Part of the requirements of building a good TV should be little or no overscan as the size of a digital picture is specifically dictated.

Majority of people's footage in vhs, dvd, miniDV, analog broadcast and sd-dtv will be something that is intended to be watched with overscan.
So without overscan, you might see a lot of disturbance near pictures borders or you are just seeing different composition than the content makers intended.
And lots of this old material will be also watched from new fancy flat hdtv's...

toke
17th May 2005, 18:22
Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
A few weeks ago I generated a couple of high-def test cards...

Nice,
I stole them right away.

I've used a frame attached, which I made according to this
http://www.ebu.ch/CMSimages/en/tec_text_r95-2000_tcm6-4777.pdf

Why attached file does not show?

toke
17th May 2005, 18:26
Originally posted by McoreD
Nero Digital 6 Channels still have low audio.

Still same problem with 2.2.6.16?

SeeMoreDigital
17th May 2005, 18:42
Originally posted by toke
Nice,
I stole them right away.

I've used a frame attached, which I made according to this
http://www.ebu.ch/CMSimages/en/tec_text_r95-2000_tcm6-4777.pdfBlimey... fame at last ;)

I'll certainly give it a read.

Originally posted by toke
Why attached file does not show? Attachments have to be checked/approved... So it takes a while!


Cheers

JohnV
18th May 2005, 10:26
Originally posted by toke
Still same problem with 2.2.6.16? Shouldn't be after applying this registry entry:
http://www.webalice.it/f.corriga/misc/Recode_volume_patch.reg

Should be hardcoded in the next release.

Sergei_Esenin
18th May 2005, 11:09
Originally posted by toke
I remember that average life of tv is 15 years, although this might come down a bit as quality gets worse and prices lowers, but majority of tv's in this planet will be crt's even in 2020!

Agreed. Many people like to think that SDTVs will be quickly replaced by larger and flatter HDTVs, but this is only true at the high end of the market. Most people will still be using old 20"-32" TVs for many, many years. Even I still have a ~12-15 year old 20" SDTV for casual use--but I also use a 100" DLP front projector every day, too. :sly:

SeeMoreDigital
18th May 2005, 17:55
Hi Toke,

I encoded your "test card" into a 10 second Mpeg2/VOB file...

Enjoy (http://82.2.167.237/Uploaded_Files/Doom9_Forum_files/PAL-safe_Test_Card.zip) ;)


Cheers

neo_anderson
22nd May 2005, 10:38
does anyone else also gets error in aacenc32.dll which leads to crashing of recode 2, while encoding dvd's to mpeg-4 avc very often, or is it just me?

Sharktooth
22nd May 2005, 12:34
You still have hardware problems.

neo_anderson
22nd May 2005, 15:38
no way, this ain't hardware related, when i turn off audio encoding, video encodes fine, but only sometimes when i encode both audio and video, windows gives error, saying that nero recode 2 has an error and will be closed, when i go to details, it shows the file aacenc32.dll, that proves it is not a hardware problem! and this does not happens all the time, only sometimes!This is not a hardware problem!Period.:devil:

Sharktooth
22nd May 2005, 15:56
well.. software problems are usually caused by faulty hardware. and since it appears you have problems with other softwares that were proven to be stable, maybe you need to check your hardware more deeply.
Try a new and bigger wattage PSU, in my case it fixed a lot of crashes i had on one of my PCs.

bourtzovlakas
14th June 2005, 08:15
New version
ftp://ftp6.de.nero.com/NVE-3.1.0.11.exe

peteag
14th June 2005, 08:55
New encoder included??? - currently downloading!

kurt
14th June 2005, 09:01
AFAIK no....
http://www.nero.com/en/NeroVision_Express_3_Release_Notes.html

peteag
14th June 2005, 11:05
maybe next release because atheme is currently in beta-testings here: beta-test (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=95803)

acidsex
30th June 2005, 01:51
Any chance that someone from Nero can address some of the features that have been requesting here and if/when we can expect them to be implemented or refused?

On my list, the ability to pause an encode and be able to close down the program and then come back later and continue it so i can free up my system for other tasks instead of having to wait through a 16 hour encode. Another is the ability to stitch together multiple files and have them output to one file. Another is more control over the target bit rate without having to use the slider or arrow keys on the keyboard. Last one for me, the ability to disable auto resize to all files on the list or the ability to apply a resolution to all files without having to manually go to the video tab and change each file's resolution.

Thank you and I am sure others will repeat the features that are sorely lacking in an otherwise excellent product.

haagi_de
2nd July 2005, 12:41
Hi,
got a different kind of problem and couldn't really find a topic on it. Hope I didn't oversee something obivous...
I've been trying to redo some DVDs, which means that I want to add some titles of different DVDs onto one.
I got all the titles into Nero Recode, selected language and subtitles, but when I play the files it created in ShowTime I can't skip to the next track/title, only FF.
What did I do wrong?
Is there a better way (software) do do this?
I don't need (want) menu screens, just the video.

hope you can help me,
thanx
haagi_de

neo_anderson
2nd July 2005, 21:22
i have run into a small problem, i have some .mp4 files encoded using nero recode 2 with aac audio/avc video and subtitles, all made using recode 2! the files play fine in nero showtime, but when i try to play them in zoom player or media player classic, it gives an error in "Graphedt.exe", when i see more details , it says "ntdll.dll" has an error!and the player crashes, i am using vsfilter 2.36+haali media splitter latest version, what seems to be the problem, can anyone help me with this?

acidsex
3rd July 2005, 23:31
Ok, one last request. If we are lucky enough to get the ability to stitch multiple files and have them outputted to one single mp4 file, any chance we can have each file as a chapter in the final mp4 file?

If these things get implemented, I will never ask for another feature ever.

bourtzovlakas
15th July 2005, 19:18
NeroVision Express 3.1.0.14a

http://httpdl.nero.com/NVE-3.1.0.14a.exe

acidsex
15th July 2005, 19:45
NeroVision Express 3.1.0.14a

http://httpdl.nero.com/NVE-3.1.0.14a.exe

any idea what the changes are?

bourtzovlakas
15th July 2005, 21:04
No...
but i don't thing there is anything more than bugfixes, since it 's been only week from the previous release(3.1.0.14)....

neo_anderson
16th July 2005, 05:44
please can john (from nero) tell us if there are any video quality, speed optimizations, or audio encoding optimizations or improvemnts or subtitle improvemnets or somethin' like that new in the new release? also, does nero burning rom new version (6.6.0.15) has any aac encoding improvemnts or new aac stuff when compared to 6.6.0.14?

JohnV
19th July 2005, 16:45
neo_anderson: I tell when there's something substantial. Development emphasis has been a bit more on our main product recently rather than on ND, but it should change soon.
http://www.nero.com/us/Nero_Recode_2_Release_Notes.html

McoreD
24th July 2005, 23:35
Hi, it would be great to see a Comparision Table for NeroDigitalPro-3.1.0.14a.exe and NVE-3.1.0.14a.exe in the Nero website. Thanks, McoreD.

neo_anderson
25th July 2005, 06:55
hey mcored, ur dvd to wmv -9 links are down, why?

DCBA-25
28th July 2005, 01:59
For about 3 months that i started backing up my DVDs collection to Nero Digital format. Thanks for the nice suite of applications, and for the support on this forum too..

About me problem:
I use my TV to see my movies, and i do this by putting my ATi Overlay Control Panel switched to 'Home Theater'. This makes the output on the TV Out fullscreen when video is beeing played.
The thing with ShowTime is that the subtitles are displayed only on the normal display, the TV Out (Overlay) only has the video (in full screen), subtitles are missing....
I think ShowTime is not drawing subtitles to the overlay surface.. Could this be the case? Could this be quickfixed?

multiblitz
29th July 2005, 20:17
I would have as well a request to the improvement of Nero recode. Take Matrix revolutions and take the scene with the oracle in minute 5 and 6. The old lady is sitting in front of a green wall. If you put the scene through Nero digital, the green wall starts to live its own life with significant artifacts, no matter how much bandwith or quality options you choose. Once I saw that, I stepped away from my plan to build an archive with Nero digital as the loss is more than I want.

DCBA-25
29th July 2005, 22:38
multiblitz: It's funny you say that just with Matrix Revolutions! I've encoded that movie using Nero Recode 2 with Cinema - AVC 2 Pass Profile, its more than ok for a 1400Mb file! :)

When i tried the first times to watch the movie, i thought the whole encoding was a waste! In Nero ShowTime the movie is like black & white with artefacts (from previous pictures) sorte of moving on screen, the whole movie... But... When i opened with ffdshow video decoder the movie is ok except in the first seconds and the credits text where great blocks appear around text...
Is this a ShowTime (and to a lesser degree, a ffdshow) bug? Or is the file wrong in some way?

multiblitz
29th July 2005, 23:21
I use Zoomplayer & Nero Recode decoder and ffdshow, but not ffdshow alone as decoder...

McoreD
31st July 2005, 06:33
hey mcored, ur dvd to wmv -9 links are down, why?
Having domain problems. :)

Btw, really curious to know what are differences between Nero Digital Pro and Nero Digital.

neo_anderson
5th August 2005, 04:13
i see nero digital has been updated to 3.1.0.16, anyone knows if recode has been updated?

daveidmx
6th August 2005, 01:58
Hmmm...
Upgraded from NVE-3.1.0.11 (Recode 2.2.6.16) to NVE-3.1.0.16 (2.2.6.17b) and this started happening:

Nero filters ("old" 2.2.6.16 or "new" 2.2.6.17b) will not properly play back AVCs encoded by the new version (2.2.6.17b) when rendering to VMR9 on my machine. It seems only to be broken when encoded by the new version and played back by nero filters through VMR9. FFDshow will play the otherwise broken streams correctly.

The symptom is this: It looks like the chroma planes are offset down by maybe 16 pixels, with the top portion of the display becoming dreaded green artifacts.

By reverting back to 2.2.6.16, new encodes (with 2.2.6.16) will play correctly. Encodes done with the 2.2.6.17b still will not play correctly on 2.2.6.16.

Here's the complete table of my experiments:
Encode | Decode | Renderer | Result
2.2.6.16 2.2.6.16 VMR9 Good
2.2.6.16 2.2.6.17b VMR9 Good
2.2.6.17b 2.2.6.17b Overlay Good
2.2.6.17b 2.2.6.17b VMR7 Good
2.2.6.17b 2.2.6.17b VMR9 Bad
2.2.6.17b 2.2.6.16 VMR9 Bad
2.2.6.17b ffdshow VMR9 Good

I am playing back through ZoomPlayer 4.50 and 4.51 on winxp. Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop w/ nvidia geforce fx go5200, latest available (6.14.10.6742) drivers.

Anyone else run into problems like this? What was changed between versions?

eqbal
13th August 2005, 17:00
Nero Recode 2.2.6.17b:
ftp://ftp.nero.com/NeroDigital_RC-2.2.6.17b.exe

neo_anderson
29th August 2005, 20:17
JohnV, i have completed my BE (bachelor of Engineering), and would like to join Nero, please can u tell me what skill sets/qualification u require?

JohnV
30th August 2005, 09:14
neo_anderson: Check your private message.

fight2win
1st November 2005, 11:55
Please can anyone provide the volume fix registry patch for nero 7.0.1.2?

Sharktooth
1st November 2005, 15:23
http://www.webalice.it/f.corriga/misc/Recode_volume_patch.reg

CruNcher
2nd November 2005, 06:35
JohnV what is the main purpose of the (Mpeg-2 Filter) "Nero HD Video Decoder" NeVideoHD.ax and differences to the normal Video and DVD Decoder ? btw congrats to the new H.264 Decoder much faster now :)

Hyper Shinchan
18th November 2005, 16:44
I cannot download the update right now, but can anyone say me if there is again PSP support? Why in the first release included in Nero 7 there isn't PSP profile anymore??? AVC support in the future?
Tnx

guada 2
28th November 2005, 21:49
Nero Recode 2.2.6.17c

Any news about this version?

CruNcher
29th November 2005, 02:53
Any news about this version?


Nothing yet but the Productversion indicates that most of the filters are even older (codebase) then the Nero 7 Release filters strange.
Is it really that hard to keep all Generic Filters sync for every Product release/update :P

bond
29th November 2005, 21:46
Nothing yet but the Productversion indicates that most of the filters are even older (codebase) then the Nero 7 Release filters strange.
Is it really that hard to keep all Generic Filters sync for every Product release/update :Pnot if you want to have nero7 filters only be useable in nero tools and not other players, but cant afford (or are legally not allowed) to limit the useability of old products (nero6) to nero-only stuff

Kurtnoise
6th February 2006, 23:17
Nero Recode 2.2.8.5 (http://www.nero.com/nero7/eng/nero7-up.php)

Release Date: February 06, 2006
Changes/Bugfixes

* Added new profiles to support the Apple iPod
* Added support to add and edit subtitles for the Nero Digital file format