Philips DVP720SA/2 MT1389EE

[Zhnujm]

I captured the file 5 times with V33.
I can only find one subtitle that is sometimes smooth: "O IMPERIO CONTRA-ATACA", thats all.
Its also the first time i seen that there is more than 1 frame duplicated.
So its a very good test file...

I also checked with my Yamaha V34. Around half of the subtitles are smooth with this player.

[Sharro@Home]

Zhnujm could it be that the duplicate frame captured is in fact a stop in the original (if there is a stop wouldn't be captured as a repeated frame)?

Cause looking carefully on TV I only see stops/stutters.

I think we should exclude the custom quant matrix as a source for this problem, otherwise it would also occur without subtitles being displayed.

All the best.

Sharro

[Zhnujm]

Yes, of course. The movie stops and the actual frame is repeated during capturing.
Sometimes with your file even more than one frame so the movie must stop for more than 40ms.

[new_age]

I have a Philips DVP762 with V27 software. Only for 2 days... :(

It doesn't shutter, stammer whatever...
:confused:

I'll try this SW intro.

[new_age]

I tried V36 for DVP762.
I don't see any shuttering/stammering that were obvious with LX3900 V36.
I even tried this SW intro. There is no shuttering but the blocking is there until next keyframe.
If I'm right this fw is worth to be checked regarding subtitle/frame shuttering.

[Zhnujm]

I can check this weekend only with my Yamaha (works with this firmware) but i agree its much much better than the 720 v33.
But not perfect.

Seems it is much faster at displaying subtitles.
For example, the "O diabolico Darth Vader, obcecado em encontrar o jovem Skywalker..." needs 4 frames in the 720 firmware to appear on the screen and only 2 frames with the 762 firmware.

[new_age]

So there is a hope for a good firmware...

[Sharro@Home]

As I understand very well the difference between the 2 and 4 frames stop, I can say that along this movie the majority of the stops is a 2 frame one so... my family, myself and ALL users beg for the good attention to this FW :D

Will 762 work on 720?

All the best,

Sharro

[Sharro@Home]

--- In mt13x9@yahoogroups.com, mosarella <no_reply@y...> wrote:

Still in search for a better DVD-Video firmware for the DVP720, I have
tried some new firmware merging.

I was reading at the doom9 forum that the firmware for DVP762 v36 was
much better performing than DVP720 v33, so I tried this on my player.

Well, the DVP762 firmware goes perfect into the DVP720, with the
following exceptions:

1.
Upgrade filename will be DVP762.BIN after upgrade (this is easy to change)

2.
SACD is not there anymore

3.
Analog multichannel is not enabled. This is also good for the people
that are anoyed by the blue surround LED comming on all the time.

The good thing is that DivX with subtitling and MP3 is working fine.


OK, my next try was to exchange the 8032 block with the block from DVP720.

The result is now:
1.
DivX is working, but no subtitles.

2.
SACD is now working

3.
Multichannel is switched on, but I have not tested if it is realy working.


So...
What neads to be fixed is the DivX subtitling, and we will have a
better firmware for DVP720. With no DVD-Video stuttering when
subtitles are switched on.

Does anyone know how the ARM call is done for diplaying subtitles
within the DVP720? Is it any recommended doc I should read?

I think that by changing the subtitle call to ARM routine, maybe will
bring back the subtitles for DivX.


BR
lee



My reasons for trying to get a new firmware you find in the following
link:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mt13x9/message/2728
--- End forwarded message ---

IT WORKS!!

New_Age yhuhhuuu :D

[Sharro]

Does anybody know where I can find it ?

All the best,

Sharro

[new_age]

Originally posted by Sharro
Does anybody know where I can find it ?

All the best,

Sharro

P4C site... :)

[new_age]

Do anyone can try it to put DVP762 V35 ARM section into DVP720?

[Sharro@Home]

--- In mt13x9@yahoogroups.com, mosarella <no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> I have been trying to only change the ARM code withing the DVP720
> code, and you are right. Only the ARM code shall be copied from DVP762 v36
>
> I have done some testing with this test fw, and it is looking very good.
>
> I have tested following:
>
> 1. DVD-Video:
> No more stuttering when subtitle turns on, and audio/video sync is
> perfect. DTS and AC3 surround decoding is working fine. Stereo downmix
> works fine.
>
> 2. miniDVD.
> Works fine
>
> 3. VCD 2.0
> Works fine
>
> 4. SVCD
> Works fine.
> Also audio with with MPEG2 5.1 surround is working!
>
> 5. CD-Audio
> Works fine
>
> 6. DTS-CD
> Works fine
>
> 7. Kodak Picture CD / JPEG CD
> Works fine
>
> 8. MP3
> Works fine
>
> 9. DivX / MPEG4
> Works fine
> Also subtitling. Much less stuttering then subtitles turns on!
>
> 10. SACD
> Works fine
> Both stereo and multichannel
>
>
> ... so my conclusion so far is that this DVP762 v36 ARM code is
> compatible with the DVP720, and it makes the player better than with
> the v33 fw.
>
> BR
> lee
>
>

@New Age when can I dream of your own merged 720V33/762V36 ?

All the best,

Sharro

[new_age]

Hello!

I'll make V13 firmwares for DVP720 and LX3900 because this patch works for LX3900 also! (I risked again my player ;))

I even top aligned my subtitles (currently all philips clones have bottom-center aligned) to "increase" the display speed of subtitles. ;)

NOW we have a perfect player. I can finally sit back and enjoy.

[mezzanine]

Originally posted by new_age
Hello!

I'll make V13 firmwares for DVP720 and LX3900 because this patch works for LX3900 also! (I risked again my player ;))

I even top aligned my subtitles (currently all philips clones have bottom-center aligned) to "increase" the display speed of subtitles. ;)

NOW we have a perfect player. I can finally sit back and enjoy.

Are the firmwares ready ? (I can't wait)

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by new_age
I even top aligned my subtitles (currently all philips clones have bottom-center aligned) to "increase" the display speed of subtitles. ;)


Could you explain how you done this ? Or the position in the firmware so i can compare to the original Philips ?
I want to do the same thing with my Yamaha.

Unfortunatly i cannot use the ARM section of the 762 with my player. (funny as i can use the ARM section of the 720 and can also use the complete 762 firmware...) so i need every little improvement.

[new_age]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
Could you explain how you done this ? Or the position in the firmware so i can compare to the original Philips ?
I want to do the same thing with my Yamaha.

Unfortunatly i cannot use the ARM section of the 762 with my player. (funny as i can use the ARM section of the 720 and can also use the complete 762 firmware...) so i need every little improvement.

The latest MtkWindows is in the finish... It will do.

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by new_age
The latest MtkWindows is in the finish... It will do.

Thats good news :)

[m99]

Is the V13 firmware ready? Where?

[Alexander Maxim]

Hold your horses, fellas! :D
The v13 is in tests now.

[Alexander Maxim]

To: "mt13x9" <mt13x9@yahoogroups.com>
From: "New Age"
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:00:37 +0100
Subject: [mt13x9] DVP720SA NA v13


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mt13x9_firmware_7/files/Philips_DVP720_v33_NewAge_v13.rar

or

http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/Philips_DVP720_v33_NewAge_v13.rar

NA

[thop]

Is there a way to scroll faster with the player, like scrolling per page and not per item? With lots of files scrolling takes a while all the way down.

[Alexander Maxim]

Originally posted by thop
Is there a way to scroll faster with the player, like scrolling per page and not per item? With lots of files scrolling takes a while all the way down.
Keep the up or down arrows pressed. It will scroll faster.

[thop]

Yeah i noticed, but it's still kinda slow if you got a few hundred files in one directory.

[Zhnujm]

Btw, AVI subtitles are perfectly smooth if you use this new DivX fusion AVI file format with integrated subtitles.

[Sharro]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
Btw, AVI subtitles are perfectly smooth if you use this new DivX fusion AVI file format with integrated subtitles.

Can we know more about it ?

So in the end could this be a muxing problem ?

Does Divx Fusion support xvid ?

All the best,

Sharro

[Zhnujm]

Dont think its a muxing problem, divx fusion integrates the subtitles as bitmaps in the avi file, thats a bit different as the current external text files. I think xvid is supported but the muxing program does not support qpel.

theres more info about that in this thread: link (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88988)

[mosarella]

If you like to give this firmware a try, it is a bit closer to Philips original, but with the DVP762V36 ARM code.

http://board.softpedia.com/index.php?showtopic=259&st=0&p=2399&#entry2399

(I was planning to post this info a bit earlier, but the 5 days quarantine of doom9 site for new members, made it impossible)

BR
lee



Originally posted by Sharro@Home
--- In mt13x9@yahoogroups.com, mosarella <no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> I have been trying to only change the ARM code withing the DVP720
> code, and you are right. Only the ARM code shall be copied from DVP762 v36
>
> I have done some testing with this test fw, and it is looking very good.
>
> I have tested following:
>
> 1. DVD-Video:
> No more stuttering when subtitle turns on, and audio/video sync is
> perfect. DTS and AC3 surround decoding is working fine. Stereo downmix
> works fine.
>
> 2. miniDVD.
> Works fine
>
...
> 10. SACD
> Works fine
> Both stereo and multichannel
>
> ... so my conclusion so far is that this DVP762 v36 ARM code is
> compatible with the DVP720, and it makes the player better than with
> the v33 fw.
>
> BR
> lee
>
>

@New Age when can I dream of your own merged 720V33/762V36 ?

All the best,

Sharro

[m99]

Does some of the new modified firmwares have digital out for SACD?

[mosarella]

Sorry, none of my versions do this.

There is some kind of copy protection sceme with SACD, and I don't know how to get around that.

I would also like to have SACD digital out. What is even more stupid is that for hybrid SACD/CD-DA, it is not possible to have digital out for the CD-DA (CD-audio) part.

If you like to disable SACD and surround decoding on the analog outputs, you can try this firmware:

DVP762_v36_for_DVP720.zip (http://board.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=562)

See also here for some of my experimental firmwares (http://board.softpedia.com/index.php?showtopic=259)

It will make your DVP720SA behave like a DVP762, and I think you will get CD-DA digital out for hybrid disc's.

If there is requests for it, maybe I will upgrade this with the features of DVP720_LEE_V007.zip (http://board.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=615)



BR
lee

Originally posted by m99
Does some of the new modified firmwares have digital out for SACD?

[Sharro@Home]

Everybody happy with (Thanks God) much better FW (Cherry V13, LEE_007) for which many good people contributed (yep...some much more...other much less...but I'm nobody :D .

IMHO Packet bitstream should be the next bug to kill FW 007's of this world.

All the best,

Sharro

[SeeMoreDigital]

I'm sorry to say, I've not kept up to date with your thread Sharro :(

Can you confirm whether this player can detect Mpeg4 PAR/DAR signalling in .AVI?


Cheers

[Omron]

Hi,

is it possible to implement a function into one of the modified firmwares for the DVP720SA to playback the stereo sound on S-VCDs via the player's digital output ?
If so, one would be able to connect the player to the a/v-receiver with just one cable instead of using a digital cable for AC3 and DTS sound on DVDs AND a simple analog cable for the stereo sound on S-VCDs.

Just my two cents...

Regards,

Omron

[Sharro]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
I'm sorry to say, I've not kept up to date with your thread Sharro :(

Can you confirm whether this player can detect Mpeg4 PAR/DAR signalling in .AVI?


Cheers

SeeMoreDigital when I tried Mpeg4 PAR/DAR in avi last time it was definetly not working (first Firmware) but I never tried it again.

Unfortunately, I burned my graphic card (9700PRO AIW) and I'm waiting for a replacement, when I get it I will burn a CD with test files that I kindly ask you for your help in where I could download them.

All the best,

Sharro

[SeeMoreDigital]

No problem ;)


Cheers

[m99]

Is there someone who have a link to the different "hacked" firmwares? My harddisk died, luckily I recovered allmost all, but not these files.

[Sharro]

Originally posted by m99
Is there someone who have a link to the different "hacked" firmwares? My harddisk died, luckily I recovered allmost all, but not these files.

You should try at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/mt13x9/
http://lazadezign.freeweb.hu

I also have like 10 different fw's on my hd, if you don't find of the ones you need, tell me which, and I'll check.

All the best,

Sharro

[Sharro@Home]

Hi Ppl,

Just got an email from MadPalace regarding his new fw's.

Check them at http://www.madpalace.nl/mad720sa/

All the best,

Sharro

[m99]

re: Sharro
Thx
Have downloaded the latest firmware from MadPalace now.

[shemet]

mosarella wrote:

Hi,

I am looking for the DVD-S657 because it can do DVD-AUDIO, and the player is most likely a Philips DVP720 type of player sold as OEM to Yamaha.

I would like to see if parts of this fw can be used to enable DVD-AUDIO in players like DVP720, DVP762, DVD-S550, ...

Hope somebody can extract this fw from a player.

BR
Lee



let's help him!

[m99]

http://www.ateme.com/press/pr_ATEME_NeroDigital_MediaTek_2005_03.htm

Waiting, waiting... :-(

[m99]

Did my poor language-skills trick me here, or is there going to be a new firmware?

[Sharro@Home]

From: "MAD Palace" <jan@...>
Date: Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:42 am
Subject: MAD720SA version 05 and 06 available for the summer damadman2002
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Hello DVP720SA user,

Finally I finished my final firmware for download!
The firmware is available for both old and new servo units (shipped
with respectively v33 and v35).

What is new?
- STEREO output when multichannel is enabled
- Some people also report better CD audio quality
- Selectable standard or big font for DivX Subtitling
- Fixed DivX subtitle centering
- Heavy status icons
- Screensaver icon

And all the previous stuff:
- GOTO functionality by pressing and holding DISPLAY
- Modern file icons in the file overview
- Cool icons in the setup menu
- Standard or large font for DivX subtitles
- DivX subtitle position is lower for PAL television
- Widened DivX subtitle window for more characters
- More characters in MP3 information window
- Removed "ALBUM:" from MP3 information window
- Improved video stability during DivX subtitle

But watch your hardware!

[Note 1]
The firmware is available in two flavours:
Product types DVP720SA/00, DVP720SA/02 and DVP720SA/05 can handle
some special software and is compatible with MAD v06.
Product types DVP720SA/69, DVP720SA/75 and some DVP720SA/p00 cannot
handle this special software and need to be upgraded with MAD v05.

[Note 2]
When your player is pre-installed with v35 the player will not
automatically restart. This is because of an upgrade bug in v35 which
could also KILL your player. If upgrading succeeds the problem will
no longer occur.

Enjoy my hard work!

Greetings,
MAD Palace
http://www.madpalace.nl/dvp720sa.html

[Sharro]

From: "mosarella" <mosarella@...>
Date: Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:42 pm
Subject: DVP720SA LEE V010 firmware update (based on V37) mosarella
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Hi,

I have updated the DPV720 firmware with the following features:

release 22.june.2005, V010-5x by LEE
------------------------------------
- Changed to codebase DVP720 V37, all ARM and DSP is original V37
- All features in previous versions are supported
- Blue front panel LED's are switched off when selecting Display DIM = 40%
- Subtitle window increased to 640 pixcel's wide



http://board.softpedia.com/index.php?showtopic=259&view=findpost&p=7876


BR
Lee

[m99]

When was the latest officially firmware released? Isn't a very long time since?

[mezzanine]

When was the latest officially firmware released? Isn't a very long time since?

Is this player capable of MP4 playback (not avi container, mp4) and if yes, does it support subtitles ?(ttxt)

[m99]

Nope, but I think the chipset is, anyone?

[SeeMoreDigital]

The clue to the players chip-set is in the threads title :eek:

[Alexander Maxim]

Hello everybody,
This firmware's RISC will add xvid packed bitstream playing capability to dvp720 and all compatible players.
http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/h/hts3500s_12/hts3500s_12_fus_eng.zip

[Sharro]

Hello everybody,
This firmware's RISC will add xvid packed bitstream playing capability to dvp720 and all compatible players.
http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/h/hts3500s_12/hts3500s_12_fus_eng.zip

Alexander are you working on a merged DVP720 V37 with HTS3500 risc ?

I see on the pdf that there is also support for DIVX6 (Not that I use them) chapters and subtitles. Will that come with the risc also ?

I'm pretty happy with V37 modded fw's around, but Packed Bitstream would definetly save on the hassle of unpacking many movies...

Any changes regarding the bug of 4:3 movies on 16:9 displays ? Soon I'll buy a 16:9 LCD ....

Alexander will you share this info on MT13x9 yahoo group ?

Thanks for the info.

All the best,


Sharro