Philips DVP720SA/2 MT1389EE

[Alexander Maxim]

Originally posted by mezzanine
Mail order it from germany.
I already have one :D , but not one in every room :lol:
Seriously now, ...ah, forget it. We'll see better days.

[Alexander Maxim]

The V33 has just come out officially:
Dear User,

Today Philips officially released its v33 firmware. This is not the
best firmware available, but it is one of the best! You can download it
from:

www.p4c.philips.com

Herewith I provide a small overview with issues we already knew
- DivX with MP3 audio and SURROUND setting (default) gives stange audio
on STEREO and SPDIF output (solved in v34 if available)
- DVD chapter with multiple angels shows icon during whole chapter (not
during whole disc anymore
- DivX subtitling lines are not shown complete (better in v34, but we
are working on a good font release as we speak
- DivX subtitling font is not pure white (transparant
- DivX subtitling font in Cyrillic does not have a border (solved in
v34 or in our own release if available
- DivX with Packed Bitstream does not play smooth.

Most important issue solved
- Subtitling lines are cut to a certain width, which only shows about
35/36 characters.

Greetings,
MADman and Caztricum
http://www.madpalace.nl/mad720sa

[Sharro]

You guys noticed the strange name of the .bin file ?

Yaccchhh...

I've been using V33 modded by Caztricum and MadPalace.

Much better but still for my personal taste OUTLINED FONT for subtitles is the way to GO!

All the best,

KEEP ON TRYING PHILIPS.

Sharro

[Alexander Maxim]

Originally posted by Sharro
You guys noticed the strange name of the .bin file ?

Yaccchhh...

I've been using V33 modded by Caztricum and MadPalace.

Much better but still for my personal taste OUTLINED FONT for subtitles is the way to GO!

All the best,

KEEP ON TRYING PHILIPS.

Sharro
Modded how? And where did you download it from?

[Sharro]

Alexander Maxim,

I got it from http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/898534/34

MAD Palace schreef op 20 oktober 2004 @ 10:49:
Ik heb overigens ook effe gespeeld met de MTKremaker. Echt geweldige tool zeg. Waar elke leek gemakkelijk mee kan hacken.

v33 + font + background (http://home.ict.nl/~jrademak/DVP720.bin)

Ik heb de v33 met font modificatie even aangepast met een leuke vakantiefoto op de achtergrond :D


[...]

Wel als je hem al CD geschreven hebt. Moet je weer opnieuw branden ;-)

@Caztricum:
Kun je eens contact met me opnemen. Het lijkt me leuk om samen met jou de laatste firmware van Signapore the modificeren tot onze eigen stijl. Ik heb webruimte genoeg dus we kunnen er een mooie site bij maken enzo :D
Ik weet niet of je bekent bent met KiSS waar TinyStocks (http://www.tinystocks.com/k/docs/kiss.html) ook gemodificeerde firmware voor maakt :D

Ik heb ook een soortement van toezegging gekregen van Signapore dat ze voor mij eventueel wel wat onofficieele patches willen doen (als er tijd is). Dan kunnen wij ook eventueel onze onofficieele software gaan releasen (die dus duideliijk te herkennen moet zijn als zodanig).

Wie vind dit een goed idee?

[Alexander Maxim]

The link doesn't work annymore; only the fonts and the backgrounds have changed, nothing else?

[Sharro]

If I understood well, nothing else was changed.

I think I have it at home if you need it.

All the best,

Sharro

[Sharro@Home]

We ain't gonna have pure white and pure black on our DVP's 720 so soon.

Simply because any of these are lacking in the fw color index.

Any of the colours there have some level of transparency...

I wonder who had the GREAT :confused: idea :devil: of using light grey transparent instead of white and dark grey transparent INSTEAD OF BLACK :D
...

Does anybody know how to change colors in a FW ?

All the best,

Sharro

[new_age]

Originally posted by Sharro@Home
Does anybody know how to change colors in a FW ?

All the best,

Sharro

Working on it... it needs a lot ot disasm... ;)

[Alexander Maxim]

Originally posted by new_age
Working on it... it needs a lot ot disasm... ;)
Allright new_age!

[Alxemi]

Sorry to ask again, but are you really sure it played the packed bitstream file smooth ?
What about the Packed Bitstream (in xvid) issue? I´ve search the entire thread but have nothing for sure...

[Alexander Maxim]

MAD Palace schreef op 01 november 2004 @ 09:03:
Hoi Allemaal,

Toevallig heb ik ook eens wat nieuws voor de andere spelers. Ik kreeg dit net via mail van de Product Manager: "We'll continue to release software for 720 to improve but the current priorities are LX3900SA (DivX and other genric issues) and DVP6xx (support ISO fonts which does not match CP especially on Cyrillic) which are causing us a lot of problems."
...

[thop]

I have a quesion about the Yamaha 550 (same as Philips 720 it appears): Does it play "BVOP" (as indicated in GSpot)?

[Sharro]

Originally posted by thop
Does it play "BVOP" (as indicated in GSpot)?

Yes.

EDIT: Doesn't play Xvid 3 warp point GMC or
Doesn't play more than 1 BVOP if PACKET BITSTREAM IS ACTIVE (if packet bitstream is inactive any number of BVops is played).

All the best,

Sharro

[Alxemi]

ok this is very weird.
1389DE only plays more than 1bfame if packed bitstream is NOT active and 1389EE only if it IS active? Maybe 1389EE plays them in any case, could somebody confirm this?

[Alexander Maxim]

MAD Palace
software-architect

Door MAD Palace - vrijdag 29 oktober 2004 10:05
720 Question from Singapore:

People are complaining about the v33 software, that a DVD+R with MP3 files on it does not work. Has anybody seen it, and could explain me what the issue is?

[Sharro]

Problem has been identified and a solution found:

DO NOT PUT MORE THAN 648 MP3 FILES ON THE SAME FOLDER.

All the best,

Sharro :)

[Alexander Maxim]

Originally posted by Sharro
Problem has been identified and a solution found:

DO NOT PUT MORE THAN 648 MP3 FILES ON THE SAME FOLDER.

All the best,

Sharro :)

Who identified the problem? And who found the solution? 'Cause I think that the problem is a little bit more complex. You mean this is the solution FOR NOW, until Philips will release a new firmware, 'cause they are working on it as we speak :D

[Sharro]

For me it's decent enough... I would never put 648 files on the same folder... :)

WHAT I do need is SOLID BLACK and SOLID WHITE on the firmware.

All the best,


Sharro

[thop]

Does the Yamaha 550 have solid white subtitles?

[Alexander Maxim]

yes

[Alexander Maxim]

Hey people, how would you like an outlined font for your dvp720 (and maybe lx3900)players? The font is made by Mtz for Pioneer 575

[Sharro]

Originally posted by Alexander Maxim
an outlined font for your dvp720 ...made ... for Pioneer 575

It Works ?

Is it the grey outlined font ?

It works ?

3rd Question Does It work ?

:)

All the best,

Sharro

[Alexander Maxim]

Originally posted by Sharro
It Works ?

Is it the grey outlined font ?

It works ?

3rd Question Does It work ?

:)

All the best,

Sharro
Yes it works. I've tried it on my player before posting here. The font has the outline color set to the background color, and the background color set to 0, that's why it works

[Sharro]

Alex Maxim,

Could you post a pic ?

Is there still the grey bar behind ? Did any of the colors became solid instead of having a level of transparency?

All the best,


Sharro

[Zhnujm]

Looks like this:
ftp://zhnujm.dyndns.org/submod.jpg

Not bad, but still transparent.

[Sharro]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
Looks like this:
ftp://zhnujm.dyndns.org/submod.jpg

...but still transparent.

Not a bad semitransparent white with grey transparent outline font at all :).

We must call Mad Palace and Cherry's attention to this.

I guess we have never been closer ...

All the best,

Sharro

[Alexander Maxim]

Well, here's another one made by Mtz :D

[Alexander Maxim]

Originally posted by Sharro
Not a bad semitransparent white with grey transparent outline font at all :).

We must call Mad Palace and Cherry's attention to this.

I guess we have never been closer ...

All the best,

Sharro
I called their attention already :D

[m99]

What about the Eject-button? There's no Eject-button on the remote.

From http://mpeg-playcenter.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2050&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15


Guest
Wed Nov 10, 2004 08

quote:
Originally posted by loewe:
I flashed my DVP720SA with the firmware from Yamaha s550. It worked fine until i switched the power completely off. Then it does not start anymore.
So be aware that you may lose your player if you dont have a serial interface. Maybe the replacement of front button tables will help that.

Can you turn it on from the remote button?


shemet
New on MPC
Wed Nov 10, 2004 14

It can be turned on by remote. Cannot be turned on by front panel power buton. You need to replace vfd table from philips to yamaha firmware.

[Mtz]

Alexander Maxim said something about Mtz. :D
Hi!

The firmwares are HERE. (http://www.div.xro.us/)

enjoy,
Mtz

[Sharro@Home]

MTZ!

Thanks for existing! :D

All the best,

Sharro

[mezzanine]

Thanx for the firmware. I will upgrade sometime today.
Sharro have you upgraded? The problem is that the firmware is based on V33 and i get jerky playback on xvid, and dvd's stummer before displaying subtitles. ( i am currently using V31 )

[Sharro@Home]

Mezzanine,

I've been using V33 modded by Caztricum and Mad Palace (font and background changed only).

The problem with the repeated frame when subtitles are being displayed is just too aleatory and unfrequent :confused: on my side (self ripped .srt's).

No problems on DVD's :eek: .

I will certainly give a try to MTZ's firmware.

All the best,


Sharro

[filledin]

I got philips new firmware installed on my DVP720SA.
Now, I have the feeling that decoding divx produces more artifacts than before. More specifically, movement of light in front of dark or dark in front of light produces a very blocky "shadow" behind the moving object.

I could be mistaken, and I tried fiddling with contrast and brightness, just in case I had different settings before, and was just not seeing it. I have to check a few older files, to find out if it is so.

Anyway, its a decent enough update, one of the main points for me (subtitle fix is ok, but I need cp1253 support anyway..., but I see Mtz has that in the toDos!) is that aspect ratio works much better now.

Cheers, fi

+

[Sharro]

Hi Guys,

Again, smart people are fixing for free what big corporations can't in a proper way.

My respect for them.

Anybody with a cable here?

For those following http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mt13x9/ useless to say that we should pay a lot of attention for whats going there.

Cherry has sorted out colors for subtitles in the firmware.

Now he need someone with a DVP720 or a LX9300 and with a cable (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mt13x9/message/1585).

Even though Cherry stated:

"Currently bad news for Philips 720, LX39x0 owners (including me)

I've checked this funcs in LX3900 V36 firmware and it only select the appropriate font and then finish the sub. So there is no magic color settings similar to Eboda and Yamada. It needs a lot more disasm.

regards,

Cherry / New Age"

I believe is on to something as his request for cable is done after this message.

Please ... Anybody ?

Damn... those subtitles on Yamada are looking GREAT (except for the centering that we already have on Philips).

All the best,


ShArRo

[new_age]

And some good news, I patched the LX3900 firmware and I'll patch the same way dvp720sa and I hope it will work. But need someone to try.

[Sharro]

Someone with a cable for DVP720 PLEASE!!!!

[new_age]

Originally posted by Sharro
Someone with a cable for DVP720 PLEASE!!!!

Or a brave men who will try with cd update... :) I'm not brave enough with my LX3900 ;)

[Alexander Maxim]

Seems that you were brave, after all :D

[new_age]

Originally posted by Alexander Maxim
Seems that you were brave, after all :D

For one test but for more patches I'll wait for someone with serial cable. Until that patched DVP720 and LX3900 firmwares wait on my hard drive.... :(

[Alexander Maxim]

but didn't you send the patched dvp720 to hadows2001?
to try it on his Yamaha 550?

[Alexander Maxim]

you know what, new_age? send them to me too. I'll take a deep breath, and I'll try them tonight :D
but with explanations, please

[Sharro]

Originally posted by Alexander Maxim
you know what, new_age? send them to me too. I'll take a deep breath, and I'll try them tonight :D
but with explanations, please

Alexander Maxim, even though I'm willing to see the result of New Age's patches... I would never without having the cable around...

All the best,

Sharro

[Alexander Maxim]

I asked Philips Romania if they can recover my player from an update failure and they said yes, so...
but new_age didn't send me anything yet, and it's time to go now. I guess he'll send me something tomorrow

[thop]

I'm having problem with some .srt subtitles. It plays the avi without the srt, but with the srt it just keps loading forever (i stopped after 5 minutes). There doesn't seem to be anything strange with that srt, other srt files all work perfectly. Is there any known problem about this? The filenames avery short, same name as avi etc. so it should all be good!?

[thop]

Ok found it, the player doesn't like unix line endings. But there is also another problem, sometimes the subs are cut off :(

[new_age]

Originally posted by Alexander Maxim
I asked Philips Romania if they can recover my player from an update failure and they said yes, so...
but new_age didn't send me anything yet, and it's time to go now. I guess he'll send me something tomorrow

I took a lot of big deep breath and tried some patches with my LX3900. The (sad) results are on mt13x9 group.

I need someone with a cable to try about 20-50 versions (changing the four values desribed in yahoo group). And it is fast only with serial cable.

However it seems that black outline white subs is not impossible. So philips programmers suck. (They even with the source code can't find the solution!)

It is interesting how philips service will recover a wrongly fw updated player... They will do the serial cable connection? Or "just" do a mtk board exchange?

[Sharro@Home]

If someone in this world will kill Philips transparency ... it's you C/NA :)

A Million thanks for all your efforts.

Sharro

[Alexander Maxim]

Originally posted by new_age
I took a lot of big deep breath and tried some patches with my LX3900. The (sad) results are on mt13x9 group.

I need someone with a cable to try about 20-50 versions (changing the four values desribed in yahoo group). And it is fast only with serial cable.

However it seems that black outline white subs is not impossible. So philips programmers suck. (They even with the source code can't find the solution!)

It is interesting how philips service will recover a wrongly fw updated player... They will do the serial cable connection? Or "just" do a mtk board exchange?
I guess they'll use the serial cable connection, but I don't know for sure, I didn't ask them :D
About the subtitles problem: how does the player show the subtitles now, and how did it show them in v31 and earlier? because I think that there's the problem. I think that now it renders somehow the subs into the picture, like vobsub on a computer, and this involves some kind of post-processing of the frames, which causes the short pause whenever the subs are displayed; I also think the transparency comes from that post-processing. What I'm trying to say is that I think Philips treats subs differently than other players in this f/w, so you don't have to look for similarities, but for differences between, for example, v31 and v33. Maybe all this sounds like mambo-jambo to you, as I don't know anything about programming and I can't do what you do, but I'm trying to do my best to help, so be gentle and don't hit too hard :D
Alexander