CCE speeds

[poopity poop]

What we and I am saying is that if you do:

VBR encoding
avg 1700
350-4500
Like... 2-3 passes, this will produce a very high quality video and will give enough bits to those very demanding scenes mantions(danceing crowd, etc) and not pad the low motion scenes with unessesary bits. When we said like 400Kbps.. we were talking about VBR not CBR. Setting the max to 4000 will create good looking high motion scenes, we were not saying 4000Kbps CBQ which would result in a 5 CD + movie he he

[Bigbucks1959]

Cool THx.

But is there a way I could tell dvd2svcd to make those 5 cd bin/cue files into 1 large bin/cue for dvdr burning?

Thx,
Phil K.


Originally posted by poopity poop
What we and I am saying is that if you do:

VBR encoding
avg 1700
350-4500
Like... 2-3 passes, this will produce a very high quality video and will give enough bits to those very demanding scenes mantions(danceing crowd, etc) and not pad the low motion scenes with unessesary bits. When we said like 400Kbps.. we were talking about VBR not CBR. Setting the max to 4000 will create good looking high motion scenes, we were not saying 4000Kbps CBQ which would result in a 5 CD + movie he he

[poopity poop]

well perhaps I should not be posting in a DVD2SVCD forum seeing as how I've never actually used DVD2SVCD. But if I were making an actual DVD-R I would say just tell it a higher average bitrate(~4000 perhaps), and set min to 500 and max to 9500.

[Bigbucks1959]

Question about those high bitrates.

Won't most dvd players choke at those bitrates (3500 or higher)..I though the standard was 2700 or so?

I just made a cbr sample of fast and furious at 4000 bitrate and it kinda choked on it..awesome video quality..looked like the dvd.

Thx,
Phil K.


Originally posted by poopity poop
What we and I am saying is that if you do:

VBR encoding
avg 1700
350-4500
Like... 2-3 passes, this will produce a very high quality video and will give enough bits to those very demanding scenes mantions(danceing crowd, etc) and not pad the low motion scenes with unessesary bits. When we said like 400Kbps.. we were talking about VBR not CBR. Setting the max to 4000 will create good looking high motion scenes, we were not saying 4000Kbps CBQ which would result in a 5 CD + movie he he

[Bigbucks1959]

YES,
gotta love those cbrs at 2500 bitrate..I have started making all of my svcds at that bitrate and cbr mode. Who really cares about an extra cd or two if the SVCD video quality is dvd quality.

I can do a 2 hour movie in 3 1/2 hours VS VBR 4 pass at 12 hours.

:>))

Now testing how high I can go on the bitrate b4 my Samsung DVD Player chokes.

Phil K.


Originally posted by wizard327
Yes.I agree with Bigbucks.I used CBR set at 2500 bitrate(Max.,Max avg.,Min. avg.),simple resize,192 audio bitrate,no filters(TS).My total encoding time(from rip to convert) for a 100-minute NTSC movie is 3 hours(Pentium 4,1.7Ghz,Orig Pentium MB,60Gb HD,7200rpm,CCE speed at 1.28,WIN98SE,384MB SDRAM.Quality is superb as compared with 4-pass VBR.On the downside,I have 3 CD-R but I don't mind as long as my objective is met--- Top quality DVD-like copy and fast encoding time.

Cheers,

[poopity poop]

why not just do a 2-pass(1pass in vbr mode in CCE) and set it from 350-3000 and set the average bitrate what you want. This way Bits aren't wasted, and high motion scenes get more bits. Its only twice the time, but if you set it when you go to bed, what does it matter if it gets done at 4:00AM or 7:00AM, you know what I mean?

[chainsaw135]

myself i dont care about the time, i'm all for quality and less amount of disks. Reason for me is i wanna make a backup copy of my dvd's as cheap as possible with the best quality. My settings so far yield me the best quailty for the buck:). Now i'm always open for new settings but as of now i'll stick with my vbr 5 pass over cbr anyday.

[vortex72]

Self Built system:

CCE 2.5 speed 1.9

Antec SOHO server case 430w PS
Soyo Dragon Lite kt333 chipset
AMD 2000+ at 138fsb (1.73ghz)
512mb Micron pc2100 DDR at 138ddr
Geforce4 ti4200 275/550

I think all these quoted speeds are pretty meaningless since a several settings in CCE can make HUGE speed differences. I just built this system and am seeing a nice jump in speeds from my p3-933. If I do simple resize, VBR 3pass, image quality 25, 16:9(borders added encoded as 4:3) I get a 1.95 speed. I did Harts War at these settings from start to finish(vob's to bin/cues) in 5hours 45minutes last night(VERY NICE!) But, if i add things like noise filter and bicubic resize, my speed can drop down to 1. So its very dependent on your settings. I think bicubic, sharpening, and noise filters all improve the picture quality but they make a big perf hit. Personally, on a big tv from 6feet away most movies look good to me without all the added filters. I prefer the boost in speed. Out of all the extra filters u can use, i think bicubic and noise filter are the best, but like i said, on a tv, its a minimal improvement.

cheers

[Acreff]

P4 1.8 O/C @ 2.21
QDI Platinix 2D
512mb DDR
60gb hdd
30gb hdd
win2k pro

cce 2.5

Speed about 1.45

[vortexer]

DUAL P-III 1GHz (only ONE processor installed)
512 MB RAM
Windows XP

CCE 2.64SP standalone (with noisefilter): 0.5
CCE 2.64SP standalone (without noisefilter): 0.6

and if I change the priority settings in the taskmanager to real-time:
CCE 2.64SP standalone (without noisefilter): 0.7

(source video: 720x576 PAL, INTERLACED, 25fps)
(encoded with VBR 6000,2000,9000 3-passes)

[SVCD4Me]

Encoding widescreen DVD, encoded as 4:3 borders added, simple resize, 600 min 2230 avg 2530 max VBR passes = 3

CCE Speed = 1.4

~1.5 hour movie takes ~4.75 hours start(rip) to finish(muxed files).

[badbert]

2xAMD MP1600s
1gb DDR
2x80gb (8mb) Striped


CCE 2.5 =2.340

this is with all filters off, simple resize. Using DVD2SVCD 1.09b3 default settings.

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 2.340
Video Encoding finished.

[poopity poop]

If anyone cares about this anymore....
dual AMD 1900+ MP's 512MB RAM


CCE speed averages 1.9. simple resize...adding some borders on the sides.

not sure how dual 1600+'s beat me, please tell me... its strange why I've never been able to break 2.00, a couple pages back there is a bi summary where an 1800+ said he achieved 2.63. Is this from an .avi.. because even encoding from an .avi its still not that much faster

[jmmerlin]

Preface: I'm a clueless n00b

At the risk of identifying myself as coming up the big-loser with respect to encoding speeds, here goes:

I have a Dell C800 Laptop - Win2000 - PIII 800MHz w/ 512MB RAM.

I'm trying to encode an AVI source movie using DVD2SVCD. I began by trying TMPG with 2-pass VBR. Soon after the video encoding began, I was unhappily informed that it expected a whopping 160+ hours to complete the process. Surely something wrong I thought. So, I installed and am trying a demo version of CCE 2.62 (I know, not THE fastest version) with 4-pass VBR. I'm getting a speed of 0.074!!

This stinks big time. Here's some of my script/log info:

--------------------------------------------------------
- 10/7/2002 5:41:51 PM
- AVI to SVCD Conversion
- AVI2SVCD ver. 1.0.9 build 3
--------------------------------------------------------
Initializing
Initializing finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 10/7/2002 5:45:15 PM
- Free on drive C: 9225.77 mb
- Crash Recovery
- Restarting from: Video encoding
--------------------------------------------------------
- 10/7/2002 5:45:43 PM
- Free on drive C: 9225.59 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
--------------------------------------------------------

Executing Frameserver.
Closing program

Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 2493445164
AudioSectors: 215141976
VideoPAPO: 35292132
ScanOffsetBytes: 217858
SeqAligningBytes: 13846061
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 1200.00
PureMPEGStream: 2228947125.60
Seconds: 7581.07
CalcMPEGStream: 2228947125.60
Frames: 181548
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 181548
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 2230
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
AVISource("C:\FIFTHE~1\_DIVX_~1.AVI")
ConvertToYUY2()
BicubicResize(480,480,0,0.6)
----AVS End----


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SimpleResize DLL=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\SimpleResize\SimpleResize.dll
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[m3taPT]

Originally posted by poopity poop
If anyone cares about this anymore....
dual AMD 1900+ MP's 512MB RAM


CCE speed averages 1.9. simple resize...adding some borders on the sides.

not sure how dual 1600+'s beat me, please tell me...

You might wanna check www.amdmb.com's forums. I just went there today, read some (long, be prepared) posts, then upgraded my bios, tweaked it a bit, and made my amd XP 2000+ go from 1.8 to 1.95 (using bicubic resize). Im overclocked as hell, cpu is hot as a fried egg, so i wont be using this permanently, but i wanted to see if those guys were really gurus or just bigmouths. ;)

I suggest you grab some benchmarking tools, read some posts there... and if still needed, ask for help on the threads that either relate to your cpu and/or your motherboard. :)

[nielssen]

Intel Celeron 800 MHz, 128 MB RAM ~ 0.4

[poopity poop]

Yeah I lied about all that.... I'm getting around 2.150 with CCE now.. don't know what the problem was.. he he. I can get up to 2.5 from a huffy .avi

[roko]

Athlon 1.1G, Abit KT7-raid,256Meg,ATA-100,Win2K,runs 1.0-1.2.right now online in this forum runs 1.148 approx. doing Sopranos season3 ep1.
Same machine using Win98SE I did about .9 to approx 1.0 depends on TSRs and other stuff.
109b3,CCE2.5 all defaults except changed bitrate disc sizes to 60 min per disc for this job and turned off 48k downsample on audio.

[LB]

I have dual 1800s and average 3.226 going through CCE 2.5 via a huffy avi file. ^.^

A major factor is how fast your hard drives are too. A 5 gb file can take quite awhile to read if its on a slow drive.

And yes, that is a *3*, not a missprint and a 2. Another factor is what huffy dll ya using. ^.^ I betcha dual 2800s, (not avail atm) would push 5+Rt... Very yummy.

[poopity poop]

I'm reading off of a RAID 0 with 2x60GB IBM deskstar GXP75's I'm pushing SCSI speeds...Why can't I go that fast :)

[Trimegisto]

Hi,
I'm running a Dual AMD 1800+ with 1Gb RAM on a ASUS A7M266-D.
I have two IDE HD, a IBM Deskstar 40 Gb 7200 rpm and a Seagate 20 Gb 5400 rpm.

I'm thinking of setting up a RAID 0 striped volume in the following manner:

Primary master the 40 Gb HD with 3 partitions, one of 10 Gb for the OS (XP Pro), one of another 10 Gb for work related stuff and leave 20 Gb empty.

Secundary Master the 20 Gb with a single empty partition.

Then create a striped volume of 40 Gb made out of the 20 Gb from the first drive and the other 20 Gb.

Is this a good idea to increase CCE speed? I'm currently encoding at max 1.2 to 1.4 fps depending on the filters aplied using ripped vob files. Encoding from DivX files I've reached 3.5 fps.

Should I place the ripped vob files in the same volume as the destination mpv files? Or is it better to place the source and the destination in different drives?

Any ideas? Advices? Experiences to share?

Thank you!

[Labersack]

HDD speed have much influence on e.g. muxing, but CCE-speed won't change very much.

[ux-3]

CCE does not benefit from HD Speed much. For some time, I specified different HDs for directories for each step. It does make a huge difference for some HDs, when the vob is on disk and the ripped ac3 goes to another HD. Same goes for muxing. A sure speed improvement can be gained by writing to another HD.

[roofy69]

PIII 500, 512M Ram, CCE = .345

Also, using MPEG2Dec2.

[sych0]

Originally posted by MrDutchie

P4 1.5Ghz 512 Mb Rambus

CCE Speed 0.8



Athlon 1700+ (1.5ghz) 512mb DDR Ram PC2100

0.8 for me as well :)

[marscable]

lets keep this thread alive.. y not :)

amd 1.2 ghz
512 sdram
80 gb Maxtor hd
winxp

CCE 2.5 = 0.847

i hope if i go Athlon xp 1800+ or 1900+ it would make a significant increase like what ive read on previous post.. =) 1.5 or above im happy..





:^)

[LdSr]

YAY It's alive.
Here's my 2 cents.

AMD XP 1800+
1 GB ram
120 GB 8mb cache WD hard drive
WIN XP Pro

CCE 2.5:
1.9 Bicubic AVI
1.7 Bicubic DVD
1.0 Bicubic IVTC

[Tobytl]

Whoops, thought i posted mine yesterday, musta forgot to hit submit...

AthlonXP 2100+
512MB PC2100
Abit KR7A-133 w/ VIA 4in1 4.43v
2x40GB 7200RPM ATA133 (one for the dvd files, one for all the others)
WinXP SP1
Nothing OC'd (during normal operations)
Always using BicubicResize
Always from dvds

CCE 2.5
0.8-1.2 NTSC IVTC using decomb.dll
1.1-1.3 NTSC 29.97 no deinterlace
1.8-2.3 NTSC 23.976 ForceFilm (mostly around 1.8/1.9, but got 2.3 on a small dvd the other day)

[DVD__GR]

Athlon Xp 1700+ MSI Mb / 256 Samsung 2ns.
1,35 Bicubic , 1,1Lanczos.. (no deinterlace)
+Noise Reduction in cinemacraft (5)

[DrKnish]

I use CCE 2.50 and the newest version of DVD2SVCD.

Depending on the format of the source (Full Screen/Wide Screen) I see between 1.65 and 2.2, which seems to be quite a range actually.

An interesting side note (if anyone else is interested). The above is like light speed compared to the other machines I was using! I have a PII @450MHZ and a PII @233 (I used TMPGEnc on it) that I used before I built my current machine. I didn't know if it would even work but it's all I had. Both machines were running 384 MB of RAM. Most projects would take around 55-70 hours!! It did work though. Very good result, just very slow. LOL!

[juange]

athlon xp 2.000
512 mb ram

CCE Max Speed: 1.470.

Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
--------------------------------------------------------

Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 1644169576
AudioSectors: 170365468
VideoPAPO: 22830012
ScanOffsetBytes: 134195
SeqAligningBytes: 8528825
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 3848544
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 600.00
PureMPEGStream: 1438462524.13
Seconds: 4669.21
CalcMPEGStream: 1438462524.13
Frames: 111829
CDSize: 790.00
Cut point 782.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 111829
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 2230
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\movie\DVD2SVCD\SIMPLE~1\SIMPLE~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\movie\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\MPEG2D~1.DLL")
mpeg2source("C:\movie\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
SimpleResize(480,480)
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 1.470
Video Encoding finished.:sly:

[aftertaste]

well i am getting very slow speeds compared to some of u guys with close to my system setup. Maybe someone can give me a bit of advice.

Windows XP SP1
Asus A7M266-d
2 - 2.0 AMD's
512 MB Corsair Registered RAM 2-2-2 timing
Promise Super-Trek SX6000 (6 channel RAID card)
40 GB Western Digital (system drive)
120 GB Western Digital (project drive)
160 GB (2 80GB Western Digital in RAID) (working drive 1)
160 GB (2 80GB Western Digital in RAID) (working drive 2)
ASUS V9180 Video Suite Graphics Adapter
PC Power Cooling 475 ATX Power Supply (A MUST HAVE !!!)
Pioneer DVD-116
Pioneer DVR-A05 DVD-R/RW Burner
Adaptec AIC-7850 SCSI card
WangDAT SCSI DAT Drive (with firmware and software to handle audio)
RME DIGI9652 Audio Interface Card

CCE v2.66 doing 3 pass vbr (Huffyuv v2.1.1 - CCESP Patch v0.2.2)
1.2 fps on the first pass and not over 1.0 on the last 3 passes

when i use AVIzlib compressor i get about 1.6 which still seems slow

Now as far as the dual prosessors are concerned i get about 60% usage total on both processors during CCE??? The first processor only running at about 30% and the second at about 70%. Is that normal?? I am obviously doing something wrong. Maybe its something with my version of Huffy?? But 1.0 fps on a dual 2.0 machine is very poor.

[synchron]

Newbie here:

P4 2.4 Ghz 256 DDR

CCE sustained rate averages 1.9 for me using the defaults on a widescreen movie.

ConvertToYUY2()
SimpleResize(480,276)
AddBorders(0,102,0,102)





:cool:

[thebigcheese]

P4 2.0

I get speeds ranging between 1.5 and 1.8.

[badbert]

well i am getting very slow speeds compared to some of u guys with close to my system setup. Maybe someone can give me a bit of advice.

Aftertaste I have a dual AMD 1.6. I have learned to do all of my filtering, resizing..etc in VDUB. Then I feed the finished product into DVD2SVCD using a "Blank" avisynth script.

[AVISYNTH_BLANK]

this gives me speeds in excess of 2.5 and sometimes..3.0!

If you are using 2.66 I assume you are using "Safemode frmeserving". If so this explains your cpu difference, you are using one cpu to frameserve and another to run CCE.


My system

Tyan Tiger-MP
2xAMD MP1600s
512mb DDR
Promise TX2 raid card
2x80gb WD 8mb
2x80gb WD 8mb
Asus V8170 G4
soundblaster 5.1

very similar (Minus one year) I have only one thing to add... After a reformat and fresh install of XPSP1 my machine would only give 1.7s running CCE wide-open (no filters) I don't know what I did to make it work again. I did update the ASPI layer..but I don't think that should have had any effect. After a few encodes it seemed to correct itself.

[aftertaste]

What i don't understand is at times i will be getting 75 - 80% processor usage then all of a sudden the second CPU will drop down to like 15% and i'll only get 45 - 50% usage. What is cce doing different at certain times during the encoding process to make my processors act this way. CPU 1 seems to always stay constent at about 80 - 85%. CPU 2 seems to be the only one affected during the cce process. And it also appears that at the beginning of each pass is when i see the best %. Then after about 10 or so min. CPU 2 drops down for awhile then jumps back up. This is an ongoing issue. Also seems like i have a memory leak. CCE uses 147,840KB out of 512 and under the performance tab in the task manager it shows Physical Memory Total at 523,736 yet Available only shows 49,044. I don't run anything in the background while cce is running. After adding all the other processes like explorer and etc. and what cce uses there seems to be 368,992 lost somewhere?? I have heard of cce sometimes causing memory leaks. Is there a way to check and or fix this issue. I am getting better speeds after tweaking a few things. Only 1.3 though. Still seems alittle slow.

[leber33]

CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1700+ (1466MHZ)
RAM: 512 DDR PC333
Average Speed 1.5 to 1.8

[badbert]

AfterTaste
all of a sudden the second CPU will drop down to like 15%
Is it possible that CPU2 is being "throttled down" due to overheating?

[LordTrace]

CPU - P4 running at 1.9
RAM - 256 Rambus
Speed - 1.5 to 1.9

[JoBob]

2.4 ghz P4 512 Mb rdram 1.3-1.4

[Huckleberry]

Asus MB with I820 chipset (yea I know it has a bug but it OC's a P3 chip like crazy)
PIII 650 @ 923 mhz (yea I know its OC'd to death huh, 3 years and counting)
40 gig WD 7200 rpm 100ATA HD @ 66ATA (its all my MB will do)
256 meg PC 133 mem
geforce4 64meg vid
Most movies I encode at about .600 R/T in CCE
.650 highest speed ive seen, .350 lowest speed ive seen

I think I need an upgrade, Ive squeezed this setup to death :p

[Sparck]

Athlon XP1700@1460 256ram
CCE 0.8 --> 1.5

[Diable]

[Mobo] Abit TH7-II(i850 chipset)
[CPU] 1.8GHz P4 overclocked to 2.35GHz(18x130mhz)
[Memory] 2x128mb of Samsung RDRAM
[Hard Drive] 1x 7200rpm 100GB WD "SPECIAL EDITION" w/8MB's of cache

I get 2.080 R/T when encoding SVCD from 16:9 DVD's.

[Forseti]

P4 1.6a@2.4Ghz, 512MB DDR RAM, GeForce4 Ti4600

4 Pass VBR, standard SVCD settings on CCE = avg. of 1.75

[KinchTheKnifeblade]

Dell optiplex 8100 1.1Ghz with 256 MB RAM (RAMBus RIMM)
CCE 2.50, no filters, mostly PAL

Initial spike of 1.1 averaging out to .97ish

Kinch

[jiM3op]

Hi there....

i have a P4 2.53 MHz on MSI Board (Intel 845E Chipset). I use DVD2SVCD with CCE SP 2.5. When encoding (4 pass VBR) a NTSC movie 19:9 i get speeds like 1.0. So the whole thing takes about 9 hrs for a 105 min. movie.... I use Telecide for deinterlacing.

I know ppl who encode this in less than 7 hrs on nearly the same hardware specs... any idea ?

tia,

jiM3op

[Fmazzanti]

Hello everybody,
after few months of this thread, I've arrived to the conclussion that... comparisons can not be done this way. I see here people with very similar machines with essentially the same amount of RAM etc etc giving figures that range from 1.2 to 2.0 I do believe that the comparison is not neat since some of you encode PAL, other NTSC, some encode 4:3, other anamorphic and so and so forth.
So why don't we try to encode all of us the same thing? WOuldn't it be possible to put somewhere part of a DVD that we all download and encode? Statistics would be much more significant then...

[edekba]

Amd 1.33 Tbird w/768 SDRAM.
@ .9 to 1.1

Dell 1.6 P4M (@ 1.6Ghz) 256 DDR

.6

[tart666]

AXP1600, nforce1, 256MB DDR266, win2k ---- 1.66
P4-2.4/533, 845PE, 256MB DDR333, XP home ---- 2.34

(edit) NTSC film, 4-pass VBR, bilinear resize, 16:9

[telemike]

Sony VAIO Celeron 1200, 256MB , windows XP

CCE: 0.40 - 0.65 480x480 SVCD