CCE speeds

[Fmazzanti]

Hi people,
I was wondering whether we guys could report here our CCe encoding speed and the machine we use. I n this way people would know better what can one expect from their hardware, and what can one update to get better results.

I have an Athlon 1GHz + 256Mb RAM 133MHz. Encoding speed usually goes around 0.6 and 0.73, depending on the source...

anybody elese with similar results?

[JOJOLINO]

Duron 800@1000 512MB
Speed: 0.72 - 0.81
CCE use many many RAM !

[mrbass]

PIII 450 256MB CCE 0.34
don't think more than 256MB increases speed in 98/2000 but perhaps it does in XP.
regardless this doesn't take into account the various filters, variables of different movies etc. So take this stuff for what it's worth. Just post your average over say 5 or 10 movies perhaps.

[Labersack]

PIII 500 256MB ~0.3
PIII 800 512MB ~0.6
Athlon900 384MB ~0.7

VBR, mostly PAL, no AntiNoiseFilter

[pinkybis]

Athlon900 128MB ~0.6
Athlon900 256MB MaxMinFilesize=500Mb ~0.6(no diference, Why?)

VBR, mostly PAL, Yes AntiNoiseFilter

[badbanker]

Usually around the 0,9 mark.

[jdh9658]

Athlon 1200 @ 1400, 266FSB 512RAM
16:9 ~ 1.08 - 1.1
4:3 ~ 1.2 - 1.3

[kid07]

PIII 700 256MB ~ 0.5
WIN 98SE

[Lisch1]

athlon 1.4 @ 1507Ghz, 512meg ram (133mhz)

1.3

:)

[MrDutchie]

P4 1.5Ghz 512 Mb Rambus

CCE Speed 0.8

[Lisch1]

there you have it... AMD or intel

(i do feel for ya MrDutchie, i used to be pro-intel )

[MixMaker]

Amd Athlon @ 1GHz 512 MB RAM at 100
CCE Speed: 0.76

Holly Sh..!, I'm just about to get a P4 @ 1.5 GHZ. :eek:

[MrDutchie]

I had AMD for 3 weeks, but the CPU burned up twices.
Didn't matter how big my fan was, those CPU's are just getting to hot :(
I am suprised that Intel P4 are having a lower performance.
This really sucks.
UNLESS the speed is not showing correctly!
Cause 90 Minutes movie in CCE took 2 hrs 1st pass and 2nd pass 5 Hrs, so 7 Hours is I think not bad(?)

[DVD2SVCD]

Well, let me say this. P4 does not suck. A friend of mine just bought a P4 1.8 and the speed is quite awesome. Between 1.3 and 1.5 all depending on the source of course. To make this kind of benchmarking you really have to make sure that the source is quite similar. I mean comparing the speed of an Anime (which often needs IVTC) to a normal DVD movie is not right.

[Waqqey]

Speeds between 0.5-0.7

[Lisch1]

hmm.. it doesnt matter what the source is for me.. i consistantly get 1.305 or above... probably system specific

[inspiron2002]

hi...

i have a p3 900mhz laptop. 384 ram.

i have made sure udma is enabled...and i only get speeds of around 0.5 (never any higher)

having a look at some of the speeds people are getting way beyond what i get for specs similar to mine..is there anything that can be done.

[Lisch1]

inf:

i have another system w/ p3 733 and i get about .5 also.

sounds about right.. intel chips have a weaker FPU for crunching numbers..

[sandchar99]

Dell 8100/ P4 1.4GHz/ win2k sr-2/ 512 MB rambus/ 40 GB 7200 rpm ATA 100

CCE 1.3 - 1.4 when doing 4:3
1.0 - 1.1 when doing 16:9

no CCE crashes ever

[Vejitasei]

Tbird 1.2Ghz
512MB PC133
60GB 7200rpm ATA/100 HD

0.915 (low as 0.825, high as 1.117). But looking above I see people with the same CPU and higher speeds. Might be my winME os (don't ask).

[Roveer]

I just put together a P4 1.7ghz system and my first attempt at testing resulted in .5 to .7 which was no better than my PIII 733. It was than that I realized that the source required IVTC which just as advertized slows things down quite a bit. I tested with a different source and found my true numbers to be 1.09 and higher. I'm quite happy with the new figures.

Roveer

[MrDutchie]

Hmmm still got the same speed with Windows ME (0.8 - 0.85)

What OS are you people using?

Win ME, Win 2000, Win XP ?

[Fmazzanti]

Hi again,
well after starting this thread, I see what more than one previously said: comparing figures without specifying the precess done is meaningless, since I see for example that in the Athlon case, I usually get around 0.65 (in average) while other people say Athlon 1.33GHz can give as high as 1.3, which is exactly a factor of 2 higher! Of course this is completely meaningless.
Why don't we try to set up a benchmark test that everybody can
repeat under the same conditions?
I for example usually do 5 pass VBR. I guess this has nothing to do (in speed) with CBR, for example... Am I right?

[marks430]

Using a dual P3 1GHz with 256MB RAM I have been getting about a 0.76.

[mrbass]

a rig of my friends just put together yesterday consists of: XP 1600+ 1.4GHz, 512MB DDR Crucial set to CAS2, 7200RPM 40GB, Shuttle KT266A mobo, and getting CCE RT of 1.37 ...sweet gotta get one soon. My 0.34 is pathetic compared to this.

Edit: forgot to say this is on Windows XP ..doubt it makes a difference compared with Win2000 though.

[beagz]

athlon 1.4, 512mb ram, windows xp

speed = 1.040 (most movies 24fps, 16:9 format)

for those wondering win98/me is 1/2 the speed usually around 0.5 - 0.7 range.

[Mozart]

Weird. My speed is 0.5 with a P3 600 MHz 128Mb Ram. Win98 user.

[Tobi]

Machine is:

AMD 1.4 Ghz @ FSB266, 256MB Ram
Elitegroup K7S5A Board
Win 2k

CCE: 09 - 1.1 all filters on

try to switch to 512 MB RAM

CIAO Tobi

[Mozart]

what do you mean "all filters on"? Avisyth filters? ivtc? cce's filters?

[svcd freak]

This is crazy.....I am encoding mainly PAL movies and am selecting the "seperate fields/select every PAL" deinterlace method.

Why is it that I am only getting a maximum encoding speed of .56x on my PIII 1ghz with Windows 98SE and with 512mb 133 RAM???

Some people here are encoding PAL movies with their pIII 733's and are getting .7x?!?! What is going on? This has been a major dilemma for me since I started using DVD2SVCD. I have always felt that for some reason I am not getting justifyable speeds with my P111 1ghz.


So here are my specs and speeds again:

PIII 1ghz
512 mb PC133 Ram
Windows 98SE
DMA enabled for all drives
PAL
Speed: < .56x

SVCDFREAK

[ForeverDuke]

Originally posted by svcd freak
This is crazy.....I am encoding mainly PAL movies and am selecting the "seperate fields/select every PAL" deinterlace method.

Why is it that I am only getting a maximum encoding speed of .56x on my PIII 1ghz with Windows 98SE and with 512mb 133 RAM???

Some people here are encoding PAL movies with their pIII 733's and are getting .7x?!?! What is going on? This has been a major dilemma for me since I started using DVD2SVCD. I have always felt that for some reason I am not getting justifyable speeds with my P111 1ghz.


So here are my specs and speeds again:

PIII 1ghz
512 mb PC133 Ram
Windows 98SE
DMA enabled for all drives
PAL
Speed: < .56x

SVCDFREAK
If what beagz says is right, you should gain some speed if you change to Win2000/XP :). I'm using Win XP and are getting 0.8+ with my Ahtlon 1.33, 512 Mb RAM.

Cheers - ForeverDuke.

[Tobi]

Originally posted by Mozart
what do you mean "all filters on"? Avisyth filters? ivtc? cce's filters?

I meant: No change at any parameters in the CCE-Dialogue-Window of DVD2SVCD ("zigzag" etc.)

BTW, actually coding on two PC's , the second is an HP Pavilion A749 (German product of HP). Athlon 1.1, 256 MP PC133, but FSB100 (crappy MSI 6340A-Board).
Win2K SR-1, AMD-Patch for WIN2k, VIA4in1-Driver 4.34

CCE-Speed 0.5-0.6

CIAO, Tobi

[Fmazzanti]

Hi,
has anybody else checked what Beagz says, mainly that the same computer with different operating systems leads to significant differences in encoding speed? I use Win98SE and would like to know if moving to W2K or XP would certainly improve the encoding process. I could check it myself, but I'm not very confident in getting drivers, etc... for all the devices I have, and so I'd like to do it ONLY if I know I'll get a real improvement...:D

[Shiwa]

I am using Win XP with a AMD 850 and 512 MB Ram 133 and only got .37 or something... Encoded single pass VBR

I must admitt, that I only encoded one movie so far, but I think this is realy slow for this machine... Don't you think?

Rgds,
Shiwa

[Fmazzanti]

Yes, I agree, that's a little bit too slow. My machine is an AMD K/ 1GHZ with 256Mb RAM and I consistenly get CCe speeds of about .6-0.65... which I think it's also pretty slow! I see people here getting 0.85 and even 1.0-1.2, which far better than what I get. But definitely with this machine, 0.35 is slow...
However we aware of that: I think encoding VBR or CBR or even using multipass changes the encoding speed. I usually do 5 passes VBR. I don't know what would I get with CBR or 1 pass VBR...:confused:

[Shiwa]

I am using Win XP with a AMD 850 and 512 MB Ram 133 and only got .37 or something... Encoded single pass VBR

I must admitt, that I only encoded one movie so far, but I think this is realy slow for this machine... Don't you think?

Rgds,
Shiwa

[Fmazzanti]

Hey, I already understood that the first time! No need to post it twice... just joking :p

[poohy]

amd 1800+ unlocked to 1.63
512 megs of ram
abit kg7 raid
2 wd 100 gig raid 0


2.4 cbr
1.7 with ivtc vbr 3 pass

[mrbass]

sorry for keeping this old thread alive. Anyway I put together a pc for a co-worker today Althon 1700+ and got CCE RT 1.3 for Toy Story 2 16:9 and when encoding the 4:3 source got a whopping 1.6 pretty fast. All with the default values checked using multipass vbr DVD2SVCD 1.0.3 build 5. I'm getting the same setup next week at work except and Althon 1600+. Shhh don't tell my boss what I'll be doing with my new computer everynight before I go home..hehe. Here's a screenshot 13KB. Like to add retail HSF is just fine. Quiet and 41C idle and 45 under load.
http://geocities.com/mrfragger/amd1700.html

[svcdentro]

Atlon 700
384 ram
cce 300-400 sometimes less, why???????

[svcdentro]

Athlon 700
384 ram
win 2k
cce 300-400 sometimes less, why???????

[M1ckey M0use]

Athlon 1.2
Win2000
256 MB
40 gig 7200 rpm fat32
speed 0.8xx for most movies

And indeed, i switched from win98 to win2000 and speeds definitly gone up..
Dunno if it helps to switch to NTFS..

M.

[Fmazzanti]

What are you using in the end? fat32 or NTFS? And in which case does CCE run faster?

[M1ckey M0use]

Sorry, the post wasn't super clear.

I'm using fat32 right now because it's my "temp store" drive and i want to access it from win98 too. Allthough i don't use win98 very often since i know that win2000 is a lot faster.

I'm having a 'nerd' weekend next weekend so i probably convert it to ntfs then. I'll post the results here..

M.

[Stevo77]

CPU: Athlon Thunderbird 1.4
RAM: 256 DDR
Mobo: Abit KG7-Raid
HD: Maxtor 60gig ATA-100
Format: NTFS
OS: Windows XP

Encoding "Driven" as we speak 5 pass VBR at 83% "Speed: 1.123"


:D

[mrbass]

ok I got an RT of 1.62 at my friends who has the exact same setup 512MB 40GB 7200RPm except he has an Althon 1600 rather than a 1700. So I redid the 4:3 source of Toy Story 2 chapter 3. So I said no way this couldn't be 1600 = 1700 speed. So I turned off Motherboard Monitor on the Althon 1700 and got 1.63. Moral of story turn off motherboard monitoring software LOL. I wonder if a XP 1900+ can hit 1.70 or 1.75.

[Dropbear]

Athlon 1.2@1.4
KT7A-RAID
768M SDRAM
2x40G IBM 7200RPM Drives in RAID-0 Array
Windows XP Pro.

Usually get around .77 to .78 towards the end of a 2 hour movie.

Something appears to be rotten in Denmark!

[M1ckey M0use]

Switching to NTFS doesn's speedup the program.

I tested it with a chapter of a movie with Fat32 and NTFS (same disk converted) and i got exactly the same results in CCE. The whole process took 10 minutes on both formats.
So it seems that the Athlon 1.2 is the bottleneck and diskaccess is good enough for both formats.

M.

[Fmazzanti]

@mrbass
so what did you turn down? the software monitoring tool or did you disable system monitoring in the BIOS? If it was the former, then it's ok. Closing as many applications running let's the whole CPU to CCE...

[DDogg]

Mr. Bass, try to flesh out the details a little more if time permits.