Hardware discussion/analysis relating to software playback

[SamuriHL]

I take issue with your comment that most of us said AMD wouldn't beat the 3070. That's nonsense. I speculated (because that's ALL any of it was) that they would come in between the 3070 and the 3080. They manage to beat the 3080 in some areas and not in others. It's a competitive card. To say I'm unhappy about that is ludicrous. I want them to succeed as do everyone else. That's because it'll put pressure on nVidia to lower prices, bring out better cards, and be competitive. This benefits everyone. But this idea you have that AMD just killed nVidia, um, ok. If you say so. There's still a lot of unknowns that'll get cleared up once reviewers get their hands on these cards.

[chros]

The good things: amd is back (rasterization), 16gb vram
The bad: price, power consumption (on a better node), and who knows what else (raytracing performance?)

I guess we won't see big nvidia refresh this year...
I'm not impressed by any of these new gen cards, neither from amd nor nvidia. Next time hopefully will be more interesting.

[Cineaste]

Also worth pointing out that currently AMD have got no response to DLSS 2.0 which is a game changer. Let's hope they are working on something similar.

[chros]

I didn't mention it, because personally I think it's cheating in gaming graphics :)

[videoh]

DLSS 2.0 which is a game changer Just curious, why do you see it as a game changer?

[Cineaste]

Just curious, why do you see it as a game changer?

Compared to gen 1 DLSS 2.0 offers an image quality that is near indistinguishable to native 4K whilst providing a massive performance uplift.

It's pretty much required if you intend to play demanding games such as Cyberpunk with ray tracing and high quality settings on a 4K display.

[ryrynz]

Just curious, why do you see it as a game changer?

Because of the resolution it provides at the performance level it offers.

AMD Smart Access Memory looks quite nice, free extra performance out of the box with a Ryzen 5000 CPU and B550/X570 motherboard. Have been expecting something like this for a while.

Many months of software developments and analysis to go yet but what I've seen looks encouraging, at the very least there's proper competition again but it's certainly no home run.

[ryrynz]

AMD wins in ALL cases 3080 and trade blows 3090 using 6900 XT


That remains to be seen, there is a lot of things to test and real world benchmarking to be done.. Calm yourself.

[huhn]

DLSS is pretty irrelevant how can a feature be a game changer when it is barely support by anything.

[Cineaste]

DLSS is pretty irrelevant how can a feature be a game changer when it is barely support by anything.

The technology is a game changer, adoption rate will come. Give it time.

Plus, we only really need it for the more demanding titles such as Cyberpunk.

[huhn]

where and what you need is unrelated to this the majority of user have mid range cards not high end and DLSS doesn't even work with 16 series cards where it would be a far better feature.

the recommended system requirements is a 1060 for cyberpunk...

[Cineaste]

What GPU the majority of users have is irrelevant. These are enthusiast forums where people happily spend a couple grand to boost madVR performance.

For these people DLSS is an important tool to gain more frames.

As for Cyberpunk, that's not the 4K ray tracing specs obviously.

[SamuriHL]

Woa. Hold the fort there. DLSS is not useful to madvr. Maybe some day madshi looks at it and determines whether an algorithm could be made to use it and if that's even desired but right now... Completely useless for the htpc crowd.

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[Cineaste]

I was alluding to people buying a 3090 purely for madVR.

DLSS is a nice bonus for gaming.

[ryrynz]

Some will do that.

Around 40-50% of AMD's uplift is due to their big f off 128MB cache. Wonder what nvidia will do at 5nm with Hopper and if they can get similar improvements upgrading their cache from 40MB to 128, we'll find out next year.

[Manni]

Just got a shipping confirmation for my Zotac 3090 Trinity, so it looks like it's happening. :)

I'll update the thread as soon as I can confirm what's working and what's not and which driver works best, especially for madVR / video use.

I plan to upgrade just the GPU in my existing rig first, then I'll upgrade the rest of the build when I get my 5950X (new build), hopefully in the next couple of weeks (I managed to get a pre-order on launch day).

Yes, when I found out that Rocket Lake will be limited to 8 cores and that new MBs might not be here right away, I decided to give AMD a try, as Zen 3 looks like it's going to be significantly ahead for a while, especially for my video editing / converting needs, which is the main reason why I went for the 3090 as well.

I found a mobo with TB3 (ASRock X570 Creator), which will do for now. The main benefits from TB4 for my use are more PCI lanes dedicated to the GPU (I think four instead of 2 but I could be wrong), the ability to daisy chain host (for example you could connect an e-GPU to a dock) and WOL from USB (ie mouse or KB connected to a dock will wake up the laptop/PC), so I can live without that for now as I'm not going to use the e-gpu that much. I guess I'll wait for PCI 5.0 to get this and decide if I stay with AMD or go back to Intel.

My laptop (MBP 13 2018) used to be my main rig, but I'm making my desktop my main rig as I'm not travelling as much due to COVID.

Not much time right now but I'll update the thread when I have more data.

[videoh]

Just got a shipping confirmation for my Zotac 3090 Trinity, so it looks like it's happening. I hate you with a purple passion. :p

[chros]

:) I wish you a problem free config, enjoy!