SolveigMM MKV DirectShow Demuxer + Muxer Testing

[littleD]

OK, styled subtitles works. I found that ffdshow by default load external str sub and doesnt allow change stream to internal one. When i remove srt file, ffdshow load internal sub, but font is so big...

When i use ffdshow for DXVA and subs, in icon tray i see as no_named subtitle stream "A: ". Weird, It shouldt be "S: "? Bug of splitter or ffdshow?

Concerning forced flag. It can be set for any stream. Is it possible to play simultaneously two subs, or maybe two audio files?

[cge]

Hi,
According to me the rules with default and forced subs flag should be:
1- If at least one track has default flag set then select this track (Highest priority and should override forced flag)
2- If forced flag is set then the splitter should automatically select the subs track with the same language as the current audio track (selected audio track), example if audio track is in French by default then select the forced French subs stream if exists (Else select "No subs"), if English audio stream get selected then automatically switch to the forced English subs stream if exists(Else select "No subs"), and so on.
Regards
Christophe

[robpdotcom]

2- If forced flag is set then the splitter should automatically select the subs track with the same language as the current audio track (selected audio track), example if audio track is in French by default then select the forced French subs stream if exists (Else select "No subs"), if English audio stream get selected then automatically switch to the forced English subs stream if exists(Else select "No subs"), and so on.

That's exactly how I thought it should work too. Then, streams flagged "forced" would always load, and if no "forced" streams are found, then no subs are loaded. Also, the user always would have the option to override the flags, and select any stream.

[SamuriHL]

I could go with that model.

[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

This from matroska spec:
Flag Default - Set if that track (audio, video or subs) SHOULD be used if no language found matches the user preference.
Flag Forced - Set if that track MUST be used during playback. There can be many forced track for a kind (audio, video or subs), the player should select the one which language matches the user preference or the default + forced track. Overlay MAY happen between a forced and non-forced track of the same kind.

Flags Are applied to tracks, not for separate samples.

[SamuriHL]

Alrighty then. :)

[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

When i use ffdshow for DXVA and subs, in icon tray i see as no_named subtitle stream "A: ". Weird, It shouldt be "S: "? Bug of splitter or ffdshow?


If you use mpc-hc menu Play->Filters->SMM MKV Splitter should show right tracks. Can't say anything about ffdshow.

[nevcairiel]

SMM splitter displays stream name which was set while muxing mkv file. If it was empty - nothing displayed. So there needs to add language of the track additionally to stream title. This will be done in next release.

Language will certainly greatly improve it. What i would really love however would be to simply dump a quick format recap in there, like the MPC-HC internal MPEG splitter does.

Just show what codec, for video what resolution, for audio how many channels and possibly bitrate.

I have yet to encounter a file that actually had a track name set in the mkv.

Additionally, all subtitles did show "No Subtitles". For subs the language would be enough, i guess. Showing there if a subs track is "forced" would be good, i guess.

Short of the shortcomings in the dropdowns, it seems to work beautifully now. The "lag" during startup i reported before seems to be gone, good job guys. :)
Now if we just had a proper MPEG-TS splitter to go with this. Anyone have the full (and latest) MPEG-TS spec and wants to share, so i can work on it? :D

[mata7]

stan any new on supporting vob sub?

thanks

[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

stan any new on supporting vob sub?

thanks
About "insert vobsubs filter if available" ? No, it's not done yet. Or is there another problem with it.

[mata7]

yeah about insert vobsubs filter if was available, thanks

[Alex-Kid]

I didn't see this thread before. At the moment, this is the only application I found that let me mux TS files with mixed fields/MBAFF video. Mkvtoonix doesn't have support for TS files and it can't handle this kind of video properly, when it's demuxed to an elementary stream.

Thank you Dmitry. Saludos

By ALEX-KID

[Dmitry Vergheles]

Hi Alex-Kid,

Thank you. If you need it for busines purposes, we are implementing MKV Demuxer / Muxer to our Video Editing SDK -
http://solveigmm.com/?Products&id=EditingSDK

So, don't hesitate to contact us if you have any questions.
http://www.solveigmm.com/?Support&id=Feedback

[rica]

Guys,
we are stil waiting you to finalize or pre-finalize your filters.
Thx.

[jdc0730]

If you use mpc-hc menu Play->Filters->SMM MKV Splitter should show right tracks. Can't say anything about ffdshow.

This is also causing issues with Media Control inside Media Center. The Audio tracks are listed as subtitles and there are no subtitle tracks listed (although it plays the default one). The video track is also identified as an audio track at least in media control. All that being said....

WOW

I have been struggling getting adequate performance from my blu-ray rips with HD Audio bitstream. Your splitter is hands done the best of the bunch. Files that would stutter in MPC-HC's standalone filter or Haali play smooth as silk with yours. If it played nicer with Media Control to allow for audio and subtitle switching, it would be nirvana. I honestly can't believe there is not more discussion about your splitter. I am very pleased to have found it.

[Dmitry Vergheles]

Guys,
we are stil waiting you to finalize or pre-finalize your filters.
Thx.

Could you remind, what features you are waiting to be finalized?:)

[mata7]

insert vobsubs filter if available :)

[rica]

Could you remind, what features you are waiting to be finalized?:)

Hi Dmitry ,

I can see here (page 9) your latest version seems to be 1.0.1008.2.

Or it must have been 1.0.1008.13?

If so why it's absent here?

Dunno what version i gonna test :confused:

Or i've missed something? :)

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[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

Updates splitter version - 1.0.1010.4 / muxer version 1.0.1009.6:

SMM Matroska Splitter/Muxer x86 (http://www.solveigmm.com/files/utils/SMM_Matroska.zip)

SMM Matroska Splitter/Muxer x64 (http://www.solveigmm.com/files/utils/SMM_Matroska_amd64.zip)

Changes/Fixes:

Splitter:
- mkv muxer/splitter chapters support - Navigation
- IAMExtendedSeeking iface for chapter in mpc
- Add to "stream select titles" language, because name can be empty
- bugfix with no subtitles for empty names
- matorska splitter fix for V_MS/VFW/FOURCC codecs params
- KaxVideoPixelWidth KaxVideoDisplayHeight not a mandatory element fix (hangup on some files)

Muxer:
- muxer file blocking not in running state.

[SamuriHL]

Awesome! Thanks for the update!!

[Sebastiii]

Thx :)

[Tacio]

Would someone explain differences/advantages between this splitter and Haali splitter?

[SamuriHL]

It can properly pass DTS-HD MA tracks from an MKV to ffdshow that aren't corrupted? :) Haali has a nasty bug that breaks bitstreaming with MKV/DTS-HD MA tracks that are made with anything other than MakeMKV. SolveigMM does not have this problem.

[Kurtnoise]

1/ Any chance to port these filters into Media Foundation ?

2/ Could you add these audio formats please ?

- A_EAC3
- A_MLP
- A_TRUEHD

edit: haali splitter is able to split matroska files w/ nested chapters, not this one iirc.

[rica]

Guys i can't find a current source filter for muxing with Solveig.

New versions of Gabest splitter:

Either can not link the audio pin to muxer,

Or put MS DTV-DVD Audio decoder between source and muxer (for PCM), or put ffdshow audio decoder (for THD).

DTSHD-MA can be linked directly btw.

Dear developers, what do you suggest?

EDIT: Sorry, that's not the source filter issue; there must have been a problem on my PC: fixed.

The only issue left that i haven't been able to fixed is
to connect the subtitle:

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2645/solveig.png (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/solveig.png/)

Any ideas?


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[cge]

Hi,
I've tried this new build but I can't select streams from ffdshow because video track are listed in audio section and audio tracks are listed in sub section !!!
Other issues are:
1- "No Subtitles" still not selected by default if none of other sub streams have default/forced flag set
2- PGS sub doesn't work, only tested with mks embbeded PGS sub

Christophe

[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

1/ Any chance to port these filters into Media Foundation ?

May be in future. "For some time there will be a co-existence of Media Foundation and DirectShow." WIKI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Foundation) .
Could you explain why do you need this?

2/ Could you add these audio formats please ?

- A_EAC3
- A_MLP
- A_TRUEHD

There are already A_TRUEHD
(with MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_TRUEHD eb27cec4-163e-4ca3-8b74-8e25f91b517e)
and A_EAC3 (with FOURCCMap(0x2000) as for regualar A_AC3)
If you have files which can't be opened please upload it to some hosting we will check that.

Could you say what is A_MLP and how subtype info should be saved (in matroska codecs spec (http://www.matroska.org/technical/specs/codecid/index.html) there is no such format)
Or provide the mkv file with such audio.

[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

The only issue left that i haven't been able to fixed is
to connect the subtitle:
Any ideas?


What is subtype information on property page of subtitle pin graphstudio shows? (right mouse click on pin -> Properties)

[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

Hi,
I've tried this new build but I can't select streams from ffdshow because video track are listed in audio section and audio tracks are listed in sub section !!!

Not exactly catch that, could you provide the screenshot of the problem? The Stream Selection managed by the Splitter itself not by ffdshow.


Other issues are:
1- "No Subtitles" still not selected by default if none of other sub streams have default/forced flag set
2- PGS sub doesn't work, only tested with mks embbeded PGS sub

Christophe

1. Yes, The first issue was missing. Will fix it on next update.

2. PGS subs was tested only once (with only one file), so could you provide your file by uploading to some hosting? I'll check that.

[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

Would someone explain differences/advantages between this splitter and Haali splitter?
It can dump playable ANNEXB VES for AVC video.

[Kurtnoise]

May be in future. "For some time there will be a co-existence of Media Foundation and DirectShow." WIKI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Foundation) .
Could you explain why do you need this?
For my own tool, based on MF...

There are already A_TRUEHD
(with MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_TRUEHD eb27cec4-163e-4ca3-8b74-8e25f91b517e)
and A_EAC3 (with FOURCCMap(0x2000) as for regualar A_AC3)
This is wrong...I've got some files with this subtype : {0xAF,0x87,0xFB,0xA7,0x02,0x2D,0xFB,0x42,0xA4,0xD4,0x05,0xCD,0x93,0x84,0x3B,0xDD}. I'll upload a sample tonight.

Could you say what is A_MLP and how subtype info should be saved (in matroska codecs spec (http://www.matroska.org/technical/specs/codecid/index.html) there is no such format)
Or provide the mkv file with such audio.
This page is outdated...this is clearly mentioned. You should read mkvtoolnix's code to be up-to-date. :)

I'll upload several samples tonight.

[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

For my own tool, based on MF...


This is wrong...I've got some files with this subtype : {0xAF,0x87,0xFB,0xA7,0x02,0x2D,0xFB,0x42,0xA4,0xD4,0x05,0xCD,0x93,0x84,0x3B,0xDD}. I'll upload a sample tonight.


This page is outdated...this is clearly mentioned. You should read mkvtoolnix's code to be up-to-date. :)

I'll upload several samples tonight.

Thanks for samples,

If your tool is commercial you can directly contact us (http://solveigmm.com/?Support&id=Feedback) to discuss this.

[rica]

What is subtype information on property page of subtitle pin graphstudio shows? (right mouse click on pin -> Properties)


http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5439/subk.png (http://img221.imageshack.us/i/subk.png/)

{04EBA53E-9330-436C-9133-553EC87031DC}

Thanks.

[cge]

2. PGS subs was tested only once (with only one file), so could you provide your file by uploading to some hosting? I'll check that.

Hi,
Here (http://dl.free.fr/ukl93cvMI) a mkv sample with embedded PGS, note that it works fine using Haali.
Regards
Christophe

[cge]

Not exactly catch that, could you provide the screenshot of the problem? The Stream Selection managed by the Splitter itself not by ffdshow.

Hi Stan,

Here the requested screendump, splitter stream selection pop up menu is ok but it's not the case through ffdshow.
Regards
Christophe

http://dl.free.fr/r2dIVlAmQ
http://dl.free.fr/pSM4HiiNk
http://dl.free.fr/dq5kbYxFC

[Kurtnoise]

There are already A_TRUEHD
(with MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_TRUEHD eb27cec4-163e-4ca3-8b74-8e25f91b517e)
and A_EAC3 (with FOURCCMap(0x2000) as for regualar A_AC3)
If you have files which can't be opened please upload it to some hosting we will check that.
ok...trueHD is working but EAC-3 doesn't. Here is a sample (http://www.mediafire.com/?xgef19v5i4n9vag).

[QUOTE=Stanislav Mikhailenko;1449681Could you say what is A_MLP and how subtype info should be saved (in matroska codecs spec (http://www.matroska.org/technical/specs/codecid/index.html) there is no such format)
Or provide the mkv file with such audio.[/QUOTE]
http://www.mediafire.com/?lwgacj3bwtau1yl

[nevcairiel]

MLP is the format that TrueHD uses, well, or based on, anyway. TrueHD is an "enhanced" MLP. I don't know of any subtype for MLP itself, so maybe going with the TrueHD subtype is the best choice there.

[SamuriHL]

Take a look at the source code for ffdshow. I'm pretty sure it has some of the types in there. I can't remember if MLP was there or not.

[robpdotcom]

If it's any help, I have an mlp track; ffdshow shows it as TrueHD, and so does my AVR.

[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

ok...trueHD is working but EAC-3 doesn't. Here is a sample (http://www.mediafire.com/?xgef19v5i4n9vag).


http://www.mediafire.com/?lwgacj3bwtau1yl

I've checked this sample it works fine using ffdshow as audio decoder. Which decoder did you use?

about mkvtoolnix i've found only in src code:
strlen(MKV_A_AC3)) || (t->codec_id == MKV_A_EAC3))
t->a_formattag = 0x2000;

and seems it has the same format tag. But which guids of subtypes it needs i didn't find.

If you provide the proof link which subtype needs when A_AC3 is used and when A_EAC3 it will be good. For now it remains as is.

[Kurtnoise]

ok...you're right. It was lavf splitter fault. I patched it and that works fine now.

Thanks again.

[Kurtnoise]

According to this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1414651#post1414651), you're using libmatroska 1.0.0 but the last release still uses libmatroska 0.9.0...


edit: how to specify language name in the muxer ? settings tab seems to be empty...

[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

According to this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1414651#post1414651), you're using libmatroska 1.0.0 but the last release still uses libmatroska 0.9.0...


edit: how to specify language name in the muxer ? settings tab seems to be empty...

how did you find out that?

according to source code it uses 1.1
#define LIBMATROSKA_VERSION 0x010100
static const std::string KaxCodeVersion = "1.1.0";

There is no way to specify language in muxer for now. It will be available in future releases.

[Kurtnoise]

Hi,

Maybe for the splitter but for the muxer, it's still the 0.9.0 matroska library.

mediainfo, avimux-gui, mkvinfo, etc can give you such info :

http://uppix.net/c/c/9/a57ab58cba06af96f49eaec77844c.png

[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

Hi,

Maybe for the splitter but for the muxer, it's still the 0.9.0 matroska library.

mediainfo, avimux-gui, mkvinfo, etc can give you such info :

http://uppix.net/c/c/9/a57ab58cba06af96f49eaec77844c.png

Yes, info string is 0.9.0 (it wasn't updated), but it uses libmatroska 1.1.0.
this info will be updated with next release. Thanks.

[robpdotcom]

Can someone explain (or show me where to find the information) how to create an mkv with SMM Muxer?

[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

Can someone explain (or show me where to find the information) how to create an mkv with SMM Muxer?

1. You need to get Graph Studio or GraphEdit.
2. Register SolveigMM Muxer running "register.bat" in SMM_Matroska.zip (http://www.solveigmm.com/files/utils/SMM_Matroska.zip) (unpack it and don't delete and move unpacked files while use).
3. In Graph Studio Render File which you would like to convert to MKV

http://solveigmm.com/img/mkv_muxer/render_menu.jpg

You will get something like this.

http://solveigmm.com/img/mkv_muxer/render_file.jpg

4. Delete all Decoders and Render Filters to leave only splitter stuff.

http://solveigmm.com/img/mkv_muxer/delete_decoders_and_render_filters.jpg

5. Add to Graph SolveigMM MKV Muxer
http://solveigmm.com/img/mkv_muxer/add_filters.jpg

http://solveigmm.com/img/mkv_muxer/add_mkv_muxer.jpg

6. Add File Writer and Select output

http://solveigmm.com/img/mkv_muxer/add_file_writer.jpg

http://solveigmm.com/img/mkv_muxer/select_output.jpg

7. Connect Filters as shown below and Run Graph


http://solveigmm.com/img/mkv_muxer/construct_graph_run.jpg


There will be more simple way soon - a sample application with SolveigMM Muxer Stuff. i will post in this thread when it will be ready.

[robpdotcom]

Thank you SO much, Stanislav. I had figured it out up until I had to add the File Writer. When the window opened to enter the file name, I thought it was prompting me to browse for the file writer.:confused:

Finally, I can keep thd+ac3 inside mkv.:cool:

[rica]

Any subtitle support yet?

[Stanislav Mikhailenko]

Any subtitle support yet?

Not yet, sorry.

I'm a little confused - your mpeg file
(Could you upload this mpeg sample somewhere?)
has:

subtype for pgs:

// {04EBA53E-9330-436c-9133-553EC87031DC}
DEFINE_GUID(MEDIASUBTYPE_HDMVSUB,
0x4eba53e, 0x9330, 0x436c, 0x91, 0x33, 0x55, 0x3e, 0xc8, 0x70, 0x31, 0xdc);

format_type: GUID_NULL


But the cge provided pgs mkv sample (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1450221#post1450221) with another one throw haali splitter:

subtype : GUID_NULL
format_type{A33D2F7D-96BC-4337-B23B-A8B9FBC295E9}

For now don't know what to do with this.

Could anyone provide refs for pgs and it's meditypes?