avi.NET v3.1.0.0 (27th February 2010)

[avdw]

Just one more Q, why does avi.NET add so much junk to the avi file ?
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[The Scientist]

It doesn't.... DivXNetworks DivXMux does.

[avdw]

Thanks Scientist, just three more questions ;) ...

1) How come none of my encoded (to Xvid .AVI) DVD's play on my standalone ?
They all show weird coloured contours.

Is there an option I have to (un)check to make the encoded AVI compatible with standalone players ?

2) Also, how come converted movies show bigger black borders on TV than original ?

3) GSpot shows a min quantizer of "1" for every encoding, is it possible to change this into "2" which would allow much better overall quality per compression ?

Thanks a lot in advance !

[J-Wo]

Scientist:

Is there a way to select which quantization matrix is used for either XviD or DivX?

[The Scientist]

Thanks Scientist, just three more questions ;) ...

1) How come none of my encoded (to Xvid .AVI) DVD's play on my standalone ?
They all show weird coloured contours.

Is there an option I have to (un)check to make the encoded AVI compatible with standalone players ?

2) Also, how come converted movies show bigger black borders on TV than original ?

3) GSpot shows a min quantizer of "1" for every encoding, is it possible to change this into "2" which would allow much better overall quality per compression ?

Thanks a lot in advance !Try it without "HQ" selected and as for problem number 2 it's most probably because you have a crap standalone, check your settings, if it's a dodgy ESS based player they have a habit of playing in extra-skinney vision.

[avdw]

Thanks the scientist,

I pretty much gave up on Auto Gording Knot, since whatever Xvid codec was installed, it keeps on spewing out completely undersized encodings and it aint even able to remember default advanced settings I always choose. On the other hand, your tool really looks promising, is there any option to encode the audio in 112kb/s instead of 128kb/s ? I didn't find it in the current version.

Just to add, I'm currently in an episode of filling my free days encoding DVD's using multiple tools (AGK, AutoMKV, FairUse Wizard 2 & Avi.net) and whatever options I choose, or even out of the box encoding, I can only conclude something that sounds impossible, but it seems even true : avi.NET not only is the fastest of them all, it also produces the best results. That can only be done by a truly great author who actually KNOWS what he is doing.

Once again, thanks a lot !

[avdw]

Sorry, can I just ask a few more questions ?
Your answers can make a lot clear and hopefully get more people to use this tool since, however you do it, it's great !

Q1) Is there any option to encode the audio in 112kb/s instead of 128kb/s ? I didn't find it in the current version.

Q2) I have a DVD movie which starts with some text displayed on a black background, I guess this is the reason why avi.NET thinks the upper&lower black borders are bigger than they actually are.
When converting to Xvid (700MB) with a chosen with of 480, it resized to 480 x 208, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the height of 208 is too low, hence the poor quality of the encoded AVI.
So, Is there any change to make avi.NET guess by looking for borders not from the start of the movie, but say for a certain frame-range ?

Thanks in advance for this nice tool !

[avdw]

The avi.NET project is abandoned, disregard previous posts.

[digidragon]

Do you mean that your project is abandoned, or the avi.NET project?

[s3rious]

can anybody confirm whether the avi.NET project is abandoned or not ?

[weaver4]

Will avi.net work with the new 6.8 divx codec?

[The Scientist]

try it and see ;-)

[weaver4]

So that means you have not tested it to see if it does everything properly. I will give it a quick look.

[The Scientist]

lol, no, I was being sarcastic. Like I have said before, DIVX will always work after an upgrade (well, unless they do something drastic).

[weaver4]

Thanks, I remember seeing that, but when divx 6.8 came out the DivX people had to change their own converter and Dr. Divx but you did not need to change anything. You must be really good.

[s3rious]

ok thank god that avi.NET is still alive and kicking
Its my favourite tool

[gt13013]

Hello
Many thanks for your avi.NET software that I use for some time and that I find excellent.

I have a serious problem: it does not install on my new computer with Vista. It gives the following error:
Fatal Error. Installation ended prematurely because of an error.

I spend some time on it, but I did not find any solution.
I have made a detailed report with screen captures and the listing of errors reported during installation. You will find it here: http://ct13.free.fr/forumstuff/avi.NET_installation_error.pdf
Perhaps it can help to diagnose...
If you have an idea...
Thanks,
Gerard

[The Scientist]

I'll re-compile using a different install program, you're not the only one who's mentioned this.

Will post a link here when done, just gonna have a quick check of it all.

[gt13013]

OK. Thanks

[Poopoo]

Can we expect some improvement in the comming months or is this tool really laid to rest ?

[The Scientist]

Did "I" ever say it was 'laid to rest'?

[s3rious]

hi clone,
i found your excellent for making backups of movies at high quality
i have small request if you could please add resizing at intervals of 16
i.e there are no resizing options between 640 and 560

[The Scientist]

It gives the following error:
Fatal Error. Installation ended prematurely because of an error.OK I've altered the setup/install program, please download and re-try (see first post).

[ricardo.santos]

Thanks for the new version!

[ricardo.santos]

Hi

I was testing avi.net on Vista PC of a friend and for some reason it stops at the muxing stage displaying a warning about not being able to acess videopass or video.pass file....

the video and audio (V,A) are there so i guess i can manually mux them.

Just letting you know

[The Scientist]

Was it a x64 PC? or did they have any SYMANTEC (Norton) programs running?

[ricardo.santos]

yes, her laptop has norton installed, i'll disable it during the conversion and let you know the outcome.

i have Kaspersky at the moment on mine, but i've tried avg and avast in the past and never had a problem.

Thanks for the quick response

[ricardo.santos]

it wasnt norton, it was avast but the error is still showing up, its a 32 bit system

i couldnt get "printscreen" to work on vista, so there might be a typo somewhere :)

System.unauthorizedAcessException: Acesso negado ao caminho 'C:\program Files\avi.net\video.pass'.
em System.IO._Error.WinIOError(int32 error Code, string maybeFullPath)
em System.IO.File.Delete(String path)
em avi.Net.Form1.Conversion()

[Honeyko]

BUG (or missing ability)

...Decomb/Deinterlacing isn't properly converting 29.97 hybrid interlaced/progressive video to 23.976.

REQUEST 1:

...a Play button (which toggles) to stop/start the video clip playing.

REQUEST 2:

...ability to manually enter crop values in increments of 2 from each side, and top/bottom and right/left aren't "locked" together in a single "horizontal" or "vertical" set each. (DVDs usually have top and bottom black-bar padding of differing heights, and left sides that are scummy while right edge is flush.)

REQUEST 3:

...ability to manually enter output file height/width in increments of 2. (Right now width is constrained to increments of 80, meaning that popular values such as 704, 624, 576 and 512 aren't supported) ...if the user enters values which will result in source-DAR not equaling output-DAR after cropping is accounted for, a pop-up warns them of that (but permits them to continue...and produce anamorphic output whose DAR they will later correct with MPEG4Modifier).

Example of all of this put together: NTSC DVD 29.97fps "partly film" hybrid video cartoon episode of which I wish to capture at near its original resolution. Crop values are 8 left, 6 right, 1 bottom (rounded to 2). Desired output width/height is 704x480 (adjusted to 704x528 in MPEG4modifier for vertical anamorphic stretching just as would occur if the DVD itself were being played) -- this reduces encoder resizing to the bare minimum. Progressive frames are removed, and light decimation occurs if de-progression alone does not yield 23.976fps.

[Bradskey]

it wasnt norton, it was avast but the error is still showing up, its a 32 bit system

i couldnt get "printscreen" to work on vista, so there might be a typo somewhere :)

System.unauthorizedAcessException: Acesso negado ao caminho 'C:\program Files\avi.net\video.pass'.
em System.IO._Error.WinIOError(int32 error Code, string maybeFullPath)
em System.IO.File.Delete(String path)
em avi.Net.Form1.Conversion()

My brother had this problem when I installed avi.NET on his 32-bit Vista Basic notebook. I believe the file is used to store statistics for the first pass in Xvid, but he was trying to do DivX. The problem was file permissions ( I don't know why they didn't get set properly, even after multiple re-installs). I granted Everyone full control on the file, although you may not have to be that extreme. That appeared to resolve the issue.

[ricardo.santos]

Hi Bradskey and welcome to the Doom9 forum!

Thanks for the info, i dont have the laptop anymore, i was testing it out as i want to buy a dual core pc/laptop and wanted to see how much time a typical conversion would take.

On my pc i normally get 25fps but on that laptop i got 90fps, wow, that was fast using divx.

Once again thanks for the tip

[The Scientist]

BUG (or missing ability)
...Decomb/Deinterlacing isn't properly converting 29.97 hybrid interlaced/progressive video to 23.976.

REQUEST 1:
...a Play button (which toggles) to stop/start the video clip playing.
I would need further information..... can you explain more, sample of source maybe so I can see the problem you encounter?

There is a 'PLAY' button, well sort of, right-click the movie whilst playing/previewing, you will see PLAY/PAUSE.

[avdw]

This program is so seriously abandoned, there really is no more need to ask for fixes or requests, it's dead, yes : DEAD !

[jeffy]

@avdw: If you don't like it, then don't use it.

[The Scientist]

This program is so seriously abandoned, there really is no more need to ask for fixes or requests, it's dead, yes : DEAD !You've said this before, why do you keep saying that? It is NOT abandoned, grow up.

[weaver4]

This program is so seriously abandoned, there really is no more need to ask for fixes or requests, it's dead, yes : DEAD !

Hey buddy; did you even look at the latest release date??? It was less than a month ago.

[gt13013]

Sorry to have not replied before. I thought that I had subscribed to this thread, but the subscription failed.

This post is just to say that version 2.5.7.0 of avi.NET solves my installation problem on Vista (see my post from Jan. 10th).

Thanks !

[Fraschetti]

First off, let me say "thank you so much!" for all of your hard work on avi.NET and pgc.NET .. I use them so much that I have shortcuts to them on my quick launch menu.

My only thoughts:
1. A fair number of the DVDs I rip/encode end up having a serious audio sync issue (I think one movie was 2.5 seconds off). While it's certainly not something I'd stop using avi.NET over, it certainly makes things a pain (by pain I mean using yet another app to sync things up). Earlier in this thread, someone mentioned the root cause of this sync issue. Is there anything I can do on my end to help prevent this sync issue?

2. I'm running Vista 32-bit and while I don't remember the exact behavior (it's been a while), so I know I have to run avi.NET as the administator (Compatability Mode --> Run as Administrator) otherwise UAC screws things up a bit. This one I don't even really care about all that much (this is just one of many apps I have to grant admin permissions to).. but it is something I thought was worth mentioning (forgive me if it's already been mentioned in this thread).

[weaver4]

Fraschetti: Many times Audio Sync problems are caused by the way the content is ripped. Can you give us some details on what tools you are using? If you are using pgc.Net you might want to try DVDFab Decrypter and see if that helps.

[The Scientist]

Earlier in this thread, someone mentioned the root cause of this sync issue. Is there anything I can do on my end to help prevent this sync issue?Yes, 'weaver4' has a good suggestion. pgc.NET cannot really deal 'directly' with modern dvd's, always use DVDFab first to make sure everything is ripped correctly to the hard drive. You can always use pgc.NET to extract required PGC once DVDFab has done it's thing.

....otherwise UAC screws things up a bit.Didn't know about this, don't use UAC, it's the first thing I get rid of, I find it bizarre. I noticed in the new Visual Studio 2008 there are now some UAC options so hopefully a new build of avi.NET will help.

[Bradskey]

1. A fair number of the DVDs I rip/encode end up having a serious audio sync issue (I think one movie was 2.5 seconds off). While it's certainly not something I'd stop using avi.NET over, it certainly makes things a pain (by pain I mean using yet another app to sync things up). Earlier in this thread, someone mentioned the root cause of this sync issue. Is there anything I can do on my end to help prevent this sync issue?


:helpful:
Hi. Even using DVDFab (which you should be) you will occasionally have ripped disks that still present audio sync problems when encoded. My limited understanding is that this is caused by errors in the MPEG stream, which MPEG format is able to compensate for, but AVI cannot. I generally encountered these particular types of problem disks from one notoriously paranoid big studio in particular, but occasionally from others. I think maybe they are introducing deliberate errors into the MPEG streams as part of some kind of content protection, and the errors remain after DVDFab rips the disk.

My solution (and it has worked very well) is to use the commercial VideoRedo application. It has a tool called QuickStream Fix, which corrects missing sync frames in the MPEG stream and outputs a file that will encode with audio in sync. If I have a problem disk or if I suspect it will give me problems, I extract all the program chains with pgc.NET and run them through this process to fix them, then encode the output mpg files. Haven't found anything I couldn't fix this way yet. I don't know if there is a similar tool available elsewhere or for free, but VideoRedo works like a champ and has other uses too.

[The Scientist]

I extract all the program chains with pgc.NETAbout a year ago I made a new pgc.NET where you are able to select multiple PGC's at a time and add them to a batch, like avi.NET, and even have the option to index the file after ripping....... I never finished it, you think it's worth me having another look at it and finishing it? or maybe release a beta or something?

[Bradskey]

About a year ago I made a new pgc.NET where you are able to select multiple PGC's at a time and add them to a batch, like avi.NET, and even have the option to index the file after ripping....... I never finished it, you think it's worth me having another look at it and finishing it? or maybe release a beta or something?

Absolutely! :) I've wanted that for quite some time. I've even considered writing it myself just to have that feature, but I just don't have time right now. But with episodic discs it can take forever to extract everything because you have to attend the machine and wait for one program chain to finish so you can start the next.

[weaver4]

Once you select the correct chain (Title) you now can use a MPlayer statement like this to Rip the chain to a *.vob or *.mpg file. This even works on "modern" dvds.

mplayer dvd://1 -dumpstream -dumpfile dvd.mpg

This is the command for Linux, not sure what it should use for dvd://1 in Windows but the "1" is for the Title.

This effectively plays the DVD to the hard drive, so if mplayer can play the movie it can be ripped.

This might help you with the next version of pgc.Net.

BTW: It must be MPlayer version MPlayer 2:1.0~rc1 or later.

[miklg21]

When I have the Xvid codec selected the movie ends up coming out as a Divx. Is there a way I can make sure it comes out as a Xvid?

thanks

[The Scientist]

It *IS* an XVID - this has been done to death!

[miklg21]

Thanks !!

[jgawera]

Yay to batch processing.
And this reminds me of some batch suggestions I made some months back which i'll quote here just as a reminder ;)

Thanks for avi.NET it's brilliant.

As for audio sync issues. It doesn't happen to me very often, but when it does, I just use Media Player Classic to figure out the required delay, then virtualdubmod to fix it.

Also a vague bug report.
These are from memory, and next time they happen i'll try and record more details. First one is pgc.NET sometimes won't rip an entire pgc. As it is ripping I see the xxxxx of yyyyy bytes ripped progress meter. Sometimes it just stops and goes back to the stream selection window before reaching the end. If you're not watching, then you have no idea it didn't rip the entire thing until you've encoded your video (unless you try and play the vob). The only way i've found to fix this is to use nero recode to recode the dvd, then do the rip and that usually works. pgc.NET shoud be able to tell if it didn't reach the end for whatever reason and pop up a dialog warning the user.

Thanks again
J



Excellent, can't wait for the batch processing. I've been waiting for this before I attempt to encode my TV episode DVDs

I'd also like to remind you of a couple of ideas I had which would speed up the process for people that are encoding a lot. My ideas basically don't require the user to keep coming back to the PC after each stage.

pgc.net should allow a batch facility to rip multiple pgcs from multiple DVDs (or DVD folders on the hard drive). For example, I copy all 6 DVDs of the Sopranos series 1 to my hard drive, I then want to add all 13 episodes to the pgc.net list and hit go. Leave it for a while and let it do it's thing.

Index.net should have the option to also index subtitles. That way I can add all 13 episodes of sopranos to index.net, leave it to do it's thing and then the process of adding to avi.net is much quicker. I don't have to wait 13x3 mins for each episode to index the subs.

And then the obvious next step to these is to combine pgc.net and index.net so that I select the 13 pgcs from the 6 dvds on my hard drive. For each pgc, it rips, indexes, and indexes subs. So now I create my list, hit go, and when I come back, everything is ready for a quick avi.net session and then hit go again.

Thanks for the great app, keep it up.

J

[ricardo.santos]

i must be lucky, cant remember the last time i had problems with avi/index/pgc.net...for episodic dvds i use dvdfab decrypter to rip each episode to its own folder, even without using pgc.net never had any problems.

i have a request, since the hddvd-bluray "war is over" have you thought of upgrading avi.net to convert to bluray standalone players very much linke divx standalone players now?

[Guest]

4. Updated DGIndex. Are you distributing DGIndex? If so, you need to follow GPL. Please advise where one gets the DGIndex source code via your distribution.