BENCOS - Windows and Linux batch encoder GUI

[Eretria-chan]

Using constant bitrate will make sure you get good quality across all episodes. But if you really want to fit 90 eps on one DVD...

[Weltall]

Get a UPS and beer ;)

List save / load should take more than 10 lines. I'll try to make it this weekend.Well, I have an UPS, but I hate beer, it tastes disguting for me, I prefer wine and vodka :)
Using constant bitrate will make sure you get good quality across all episodes. But if you really want to fit 90 eps on one DVD...I do use constant bitrate. Like I said before, the only thing I do is to calculate bitrate for various episodes at once, assuring that 90 eps will fit in 4.37GB. The same bitrate is used for them, something between 268-255kbps, depending on the total length (if I mix some small episodes with big ones, bitrate will be balanced :)). In the end, some episodes are 51MB, some 47.6MB. The quality is always good.

[Eretria-chan]

Ah, I mis-understood! You're trying to mix long and short episodes so there will be 90 episodes on a DVD... pretty clever!
And you need a calc to know that X episodes of Y bitrate and Z episodes of A bitrate, etc, etc you must use to make sure you get 90 episodes and they take up just enough space to fill a DVD...

[Sirber]

for those not going on my forum, there's a new version out

www.detritus.qc.ca

[Spilt_milk]

does bencos work with vista 64

[Sirber]

yes, be sure to run as administrator though. Else try RealAnime 6 (nothing special to do).
They will run in 32bit though.

[sillKotscha]

diggin' out this thread :)

I'm playing around with flash for a while now. As it is the de facto webvideo standard at the moment I'm always looking around for some good encoding tools.

with AutoMen it is very easy to create flash videos even for novices but there is one disadvantage of AutoMen. It does rely on MEncoder and don't uses vfw. Even though the result is really impressive as MEncoder is only able to encode to FLV1 (Flash 6).

Than your RealAnime 6 came back into my mind and I remember you saying that maybe RealAnime will be the first free FLV batch encoder as you could integrate On2's VP6 VFW Codec - which is FLV4 (Flash 8) and uses VP62 Heightened Sharpness Profile.

I guess the last free (for personal use) version floating around is "VP6 vfw Codec 6.4.2.0". As sh0dan (http://forum.doom9.org/member.php?u=1701) said no one knows why it is no longer offerered at On2's website, it is still possible to find it :)

Speaking of sh0dan brings up his interesting blog articel (http://sh0dan.blogspot.com/2006/09/command-line-flash-8-flv-encoding.html). He's showing how to encode Flash 8 FLV via Command Line.

Well, that works very, very well quality wise as I have tried it out here (http://kotscha.de/VEncoding.html). But it is a bit tedious if you ask me... even though better than nothing, as it works.

As developement of RealAnime 6 is dead (?) do you think you could nonetheless spend some time integrating FLV4 (Flash 8) via On2's VP6 VFW Codec into BENCOS? If not you in person maybe one of the other developers of BENCOS?

I guess I would not be the only one looking forward seeing a FLV4 (Flash 8) encoder suite ;) all others cost $$ (Flix Pro for example)...

thanks in advance

/ sill

[Sharktooth]

VP6 VFW is not properly easy to configure since it stores the codec configuration in binary format into the registry.

[Sirber]

@sillKotscha

No one devs bencos or ra6 beside me. Sharktooth left long ago whitout news.
About VP6, I tried to find a way to modify the settings in the registry, but I don't have the struct and it's hard for nothing.

[Sharktooth]

yup. i got some troubles and im sorry i didnt post any news on your forum coz i lost the svn and forum accounts info. im also no longer on MSN... so...

[Sirber]

It's not like you can't reach me by email or PM here.
anyway. I'm almost out of the dev business...

[sillKotscha]

hey, jey, jey... no need for excuses or arguments... I just wanted to ask :)

in other words you don't think you will look forther into that issue, don't you?

too bad... but thanks for your answers

[Sirber]

bencos is most likely dead. The IDE works badly under vista and compiled bins don't even run (under vista).
ra6 I dev it once each 3 months, and I don't plan adding more codecs. x264 and AAC is enough for most tasks.

[sillKotscha]

x264 and AAC is enough for most tasks.

no, for most users ;)

[and-y]

@sirber's quote
"bencos is most likely dead..."
"ra6 I dev it once each 3 months"

>_<

lil bit sad to hear it T_T
but i appreciate all of what you give for us...
(thanx a lot, really help me to rip more smaller.)

and maybe I just can say just do what you really pleasant to do ^_^
(cause I think what you made from the bottom of your heart is more important.....)

[Veterinar]

bencos is most likely dead. The IDE works badly under vista and compiled bins don't even run (under vista).
ra6 I dev it once each 3 months, and I don't plan adding more codecs. x264 and AAC is enough for most tasks.
Then why don't you rip off the core with all the logic and without interface, wrap it up in nice package (able to compile) and publish it for download? Somebody might add different interface to it, maybe even commandline.

[JLe2k]

hey does anyone know what settings the anime profile on this had or even what settings on real anime 5/6 i think they're the same profile throughout the versions

[Mgz]

bencos is most likely dead. The IDE works badly under vista and compiled bins don't even run (under vista).
ra6 I dev it once each 3 months, and I don't plan adding more codecs. x264 and AAC is enough for most tasks.

I still use RA5 for batch transcoding FRAPS video into XVID

x264/AAC is out of question because I have an old version of Sony Vegas 4.0 :D (the new version is 500$ or something >.< )

[IceManZ]

Hi Sirber,

I give a try to RA 6 and I applied the update but RA crashed when MP4Box merged video / audio (=file not found).

If I keep the old version of MP4Box I get a "out of bounds" error.

Is it possible, when you got a few minutes, to check this.

Thanks a lot for all your hard work.

OS : Win XP.

[Sirber]

1) This is bencos thread
2) I'm not developing anything anymore.

for your issue, look if all files are there, add the missing ones and retry.

[Sirber]

Quick update:

* New mencoder, mplayer and mp4box bins
* Recompiled bencos against Lazarus 0.9.24 beta and QT4 framework
* Works under Vista with UAC deactivated (Didn't try with UAC)

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/files/bencos/BENCOS_20080324-QT4.exe

[DarkZell666]

I had to download libqt4intf.dll before the latest version you just posted could start :

http://svn.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/binaries/i386-win32/qt/libqt4intf.dll?revision=13686&root=lazarus&pathrev=13686

[Sirber]

@DarkZell666

Thanks!!, maybe I had it via Lazarus. Adding it to the setup!

[edit]

Added. Please redownload if needed :)

[krusty999]

I have a question can BENCOS suport constant quality encode (crf) like MEGUI??

Good work.

[Sirber]

I have a question can BENCOS suport constant quality encode (crf) like MEGUI??

Good work.

It could, but it doesn't. It only provide variable bitrate based encoding.

[krusty999]

Can add Constant Quality Encode? or tell me how can calculate the bitrate to do something like crf(quality 24) encoding.

Thanks.

[Sirber]

Can add Constant Quality Encode? or tell me how can calculate the bitrate to do something like crf(quality 24) encoding.

Thanks.

Sorry, I'm not adding features that I'm not using.
I can get you a copy of the sources if you want to patch it in.

[killerhex]

hey sirber are all your programs development dead

[Sirber]

hey sirber are all your programs development dead

yes! all of them!

[Mgz]

<-- still faithful user of RealAnime 5.0 @_@, I fraps a lot and RealAnime 1 click 2-pass XVID enconding no-bs approach saves me a lot of time and HD space :D. But still I want to upgrade to xvid 1.1.2 :-/ but development is dead, oh well.

so what GUI/program do Bencos/RA users use/move to anyway ?

[talz13]

<-- still faithful user of RealAnime 5.0 @_@, I fraps a lot and RealAnime 1 click 2-pass XVID enconding no-bs approach saves me a lot of time and HD space :D. But still I want to upgrade to xvid 1.1.2 :-/ but development is dead, oh well.

so what GUI/program do Bencos/RA users use/move to anyway ?

That's what I want to know! I still haven't found anything as easy to use as realanime for quick batch jobs. I've tried megui, straight up ffmpeg, and others, but realanime is still the best (when it doesn't bomb on audio, that is)

[Sirber]

BENCOS 2008-10-01

no major updates, code same as 2008-03-24.
just a codec update and a new mirror.


compiled with Lazarus 1.9.27 beta, FPC 2.2.3, win32
mplayer/mencoder svn-27323


Download:
Installer (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KE12QU2T) (exe, 10MB)
Sources (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MBGZ2DT4) (7z, 27MB)

[Veterinar]

Good day Sirber, you made very useful tool. Thank you.

I'm using RealAnime 6 from 25.09.07 with encoders update. It works very well, and still is unmatched by rival tools. I'm not saying it's bug free, mind you, but I did encode much files with it.

I hope your effort will not just get lost, and RA or Bencos will get their well deserved development. Or, if you decide to resign, at least knowledge will reincarnate in some successor program.

In the meantime, I put here some feedback.

Videos at 120 fps I'd prefer to downsample to 24 or 30 fps, but with RA6 I can't. Also there are videos at what seems to be variable fps 24/30, which are encoded by RA6 as 120 fps result.

Sometimes RA6 crashes at various points. I've noticed this is GUI crash. Encoders continue to work till the end of current job and next job does not start. The crash occurs when showing the window from system tray or when switching tabs. It seems like various actions in GUI "accumulate" chance to crash. The less I medde with it, the less it crashes. Keeping the most active first tab in background also helps.

That was some feedback. One more time, thank you for your tool.

[Sirber]

Hi Veterinar!

I'm glad you like the tools! Unfortunatly I haven't played with them for more than a year now. If you want to play with the code I'd suggest you grab bencos and lazarus (free pascal IDE) since bencos is more complete than RA6. I can help you a bit to get started but I won't code on those projects anymore.

Regards,

Sirber

[killerhex]

i can't use the mirror for the exe the source in the other hand i can access

[Sharktooth]

try those (BENCOS 2008-10-01):
installer (http://mirror05.x264.nl/Sharktooth/bencos/BENCOS_20081001.exe)
sources (http://mirror05.x264.nl/Sharktooth/bencos/bencos-dev.7z)

[Sirber]

Thanks Sharktooth! :D

[Sirber]

even with the latest Lazarus, bencos fails on Vista and Windows 7. I did a search installing older version and from the first one (BENCOS_20061223.exe) to BENCOS_20070430.exe, they all run perfectly. Starting BENCOS_20070505.exe, I get a popup "A reference was returned from the server." and it fails. I'll try to make a new project file and copy / paste the code. I think my project file is corrupt or have bad settings, but they look good to me. I compiled an empty project and it ran perfectly.

in the meantime you can grab the latest binaries here: http://sites.google.com/a/detritus.qc.ca/realanime/

stay tuned! :)

[Eretria-chan]

Just a maintenance update or a revival of the project, Sirber?

[Sirber]

Just a maintenance update or a revival of the project, Sirber?

for now just an update (and codec updates) so it can work on vista and w7 while I slowly code RealAnime 7. :)

[Eretria-chan]

Ah, RealAnime 7. I wonder what this version will contain then?
Nice to see RA back on track again. It has been far too long without it.
Btw, what will RA7 be coded in? Good ol' delphi?

[Sirber]

Nice to see RA back on track again. It has been far too long without it.

Indeed... it's been a long while :).. well if you don't count Bencos as a realanime ;)

Ah, RealAnime 7. I wonder what this version will contain then?

It is based on a new toolchain, using direct264 (directshow enabled x264), a directshow-enabled aac encoder and mp4box. ffshow is recommended to be used as a decoder and for filtering. The firsts release will be 32bit, but I'll make a 64bit version as soon as direct264 64bit builds will be avalible. The interface should be simpler and look like:

http://6862951801603747047-a-detritus-qc-ca-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/detritus.qc.ca/realanime/Home/ra7_20091001.jpg?attachauth=ANoY7crjaIz_giKYeTi3Z5ismxmAw8Prae5d_WTMuQHH9Sw6Fcsv4AK8MVfW_zhGjhvZ2DbCFrd9HSFsOeAiXUx78wZ9E1susWVCXKQW2m1r0c0guyrdxNPOMsP-8duwApuyBw63R0SuMnnxarRSh3TP4o6BuGrZ_J5zEZx4NBk-WlC3ez5bD8CzdqZOsPR8-JbR5XDELMSJUcqiqLYpJaEpo0Bnd-n3Qg%3D%3D&attredirects=0


Btw, what will RA7 be coded in? Good ol' delphi?

I'm regiving a try with csharp (.NET 3.5). In 2005-6 I tryed with xAnime, to learn the language, but I didn't like it and launhcing process and managing them was hellish.

[Eretria-chan]

It is based on a new toolchain, using direct264 (directshow enabled x264), a directshow-enabled aac encoder and mp4box. ffshow is recommended to be used as a decoder and for filtering. The firsts release will be 32bit, but I'll make a 64bit version as soon as direct264 64bit builds will be avalible. The interface should be simpler and look like:
Sounds very nice.
Also very nice to see HD settings. HD is getting common these days, and I will admit - I always download the 720p encodes. They always look better.

I'm regiving a try with csharp (.NET 3.5). In 2005-6 I tryed with xAnime, to learn the language, but I didn't like it and launhcing process and managing them was hellish.
Ah, Microsoft's devil language again. Cannot say I like it, but meh. But as long as it works...
Still, it should be interesting to see if you can find some settings to further compress downloaded HD encodes today...

[Sirber]

Ah, Microsoft's devil language again. Cannot say I like it, but meh. But as long as it works...

New language to learn, always good :)
Delphi 7 and later versions are a pain to use on W7 (or vista) because they are too old.

Still, it should be interesting to see if you can find some settings to further compress downloaded HD encodes today...

I'll have to ask help for the settings, I'm really rusty with those, even for SD :)

[anj]

I got error # 1

Writing of 3GPP file failed.
What's solution??

[Sirber]

I got error # 1

Writing of 3GPP file failed.
What's solution??

Everything you need to know is right here: link (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html)

[PatlaborForce]

Ah, Microsoft's devil language again. Cannot say I like it, but meh. But as long as it works...

And yet the two languages had their design lead by the same person. Why is his work now a "devil language" just cause he works for Microsoft? Secondly, many parts of the ECMA standard were designed by people who didn't even work for Microsoft (HP, Intel, etc).

[Eretria-chan]

New language to learn, always good :)
I would not call it that...

Delphi 7 and later versions are a pain to use on W7 (or vista) because they are too old.
Boo to Delphi, yay to modern programming languages ^_^

I'll have to ask help for the settings, I'm really rusty with those, even for SD :)
Ah, then hopefully Sharktooth's settings will work well, then.

And yet the two languages were designed by the same person. Why is his work now a "devil language" just cause he works for Microsoft? Secondly, many parts of the ECMA standard were designed by people who didn't even work for Microsoft (HP, Intel, etc).
Who?
I know it is a standardized language, too, but I call it Microsoft's devil language because it is pretty much what Microsoft wants everyone to use and it is what you hear and see all about today. Always C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#.
And besides, it is all about the language, and the creators. IOW, I would not care even if Bjarne himself was involved in C#. It would still be a devil language in my eyes.

[Sirber]

And yet the two languages had their design lead by the same person. Why is his work now a "devil language" just cause he works for Microsoft? Secondly, many parts of the ECMA standard were designed by people who didn't even work for Microsoft (HP, Intel, etc).

no flamewar please :)


Boo to Delphi, yay to modern programming languages ^_^


like c#? ;p

I know it is a standardized language, too, but I call it Microsoft's devil language because it is pretty much what Microsoft wants everyone to use and it is what you hear and see all about today. Always C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#.
And besides, it is all about the language, and the creators. IOW, I would not care even if Bjarne himself was involved in C#. It would still be a devil language in my eyes.

At least I'm not trying Java ;)

[Eretria-chan]

like c#? ;p
More like C++ :D

At least I'm not trying Java ;)
And I applaud you for that. Another devil language me thinks :D