BENCOS - Windows and Linux batch encoder GUI

[Sirber]

Bencos is an easy to use Graphical User Interface (GUI) for Windows and Linux to convert big video files into smaller files using standard codecs. It's mainly aimed for japanese animated content (anime) but it can encode general files too.

http://www.detritus.qc.ca
http://code.google.com/p/bencos

[killerhex]

does this software can encode to asp without any sync problems

avc to mpeg4 asp

[Sirber]

sure. It doesn't have the delay problem RA4 and bellow had.
Be sure to set the right FPS in the Settings tab. *

* now automatic

[killerhex]

thanx

one bug

coudn't open input audio.wav using FAAC

[Kayser]

Cool, I'll try it and post feedback tomorrow :)... Thanks for the work Sirber, Damrod and Sharktooth.

[Sirber]

coudn't open input audio.wav using FAACSource?

please post more infos when you report bugs. Just saying that doesn't help.

[killerhex]

source

mkv[AVC]720x480 16/9 anamorphic
[dual audio]audio vorbis 2ch 48hz
english
japanese

im encoding to mpeg4 asp+AAC LC 128kbps preferred audio :english

and why does bencos has both

enhAacPlusEnc
faac

[Sirber]

Where can I get your source? And what was your settings?

enhaacplusenc = AAC HE+PS
faac = AAC LC

[Sirber]

found bugs regarding to subtitles.

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=17#p17

[mael]

my version: 2006-12-26

i get the error "Couldn't open input file audio.wav" on encoding a .mov file when AAC LC is selected with uncompressed audio. from the logfile:
Opening audio decoder: [pcm] Uncompressed PCM audio decoder
AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16be, 1411.2 kbit/100.00% (ratio: 176400->176400)
Selected audio codec: [pcm] afm: pcm (Uncompressed PCM)

AAC HS+PS works fine, but 32kbit/s is not enough

also, the "about" tab is empty

it would be very nice, if bencos would find out the FPS itsself

what about support for audio with more than 2 channels?

[Sirber]

my version: 2006-12-26

i get the error "Couldn't open input file audio.wav" on encoding a .mov file when AAC LC is selected with uncompressed audio. from the logfile:
Opening audio decoder: [pcm] Uncompressed PCM audio decoder
AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16be, 1411.2 kbit/100.00% (ratio: 176400->176400)
Selected audio codec: [pcm] afm: pcm (Uncompressed PCM)

AAC HS+PS works fine, but 32kbit/s is not enoughI'll look about LC problem.

also, the "about" tab is emptyLater :)

it would be very nice, if bencos would find out the FPS itsselfLater :) This is a preview release.

what about support for audio with more than 2 channels?Nope. I don't have any encoder for that.

[mael]

thanks for the support

maybe take a look at the nero digital aac encoder, it's free:
http://www.nero.com/nerodigital/eng/Nero_Digital_Audio.html

[Sirber]

free to use, not free to bundle and doesn't work on linux.

[mael]

okay, you win ;)

[Sirber]

okay, you win ;)
and linux ;)

[Sirber]

I'm gonna have to remove MPEG4 ASP and AAC LC for compatibility reasons.

mencoder outputs PCM, not wave, and faac.exe don't handle PCM like enhaacplusenc does.
mencoder using lavf crash in access violation.

:(

[killerhex]

what no more
MPEG4 ASP

[Sirber]

no more xvid and aac lc due to incompatibility with encoders.
I did not manage to get the encoding chain working with faac.exe, and xvid + he-aac+ps don't make much sense...

[killerhex]

how about adding xvid+vorbis

[Sirber]

nope. I'm sticking with standards.

[Kayser]

I ran a test with a 23.97 source, normal profile + aac he+ps 32kbps and the encoding process itself went great. The problem was that the output was totally out of sync. The output fps was set with 23.976. Any ideas of what could've gone wrong?

[Sharktooth]

@sirber: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/e392339f21c51e6a

[Sirber]

I ran a test with a 23.97 source, normal profile + aac he+ps 32kbps and the encoding process itself went great. The problem was that the output was totally out of sync. The output fps was set with 23.976. Any ideas of what could've gone wrong?

Was your source 48kHz?

@Sharktooth

I cannot compile. Also, I think it's a great oportunity to drop old codecs :)

[Sirber]

new test release out

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=26#p26

[Kayser]

Yes, the source is 48KHz, and I was reading in your forums that BENCOS has trouble with those so don't mind :)... I'll try the new build.
And sorry for the delay... For some reason it timed out every time I tried to post yesterday.

[Sirber]

last version didn't have the code for 44khz. I'll post a new one tomorrow.

[Sirber]

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=31#p31

should be good now :)

[Amnon82]

When will be a first linux build ready?

[Sirber]

I need to mod it to be able to specify mencoder path. Then it should work. Sharktooth may have time to compile and play with it after the new year.

[Sirber]

another update, tries to fix the audio delay again...

download same place as usual :p

[Sharktooth]

When will be a first linux build ready?
Soon.
I'll try to make .deb and .rpm packages and maybe ebuilds... (at least i hope...)
In the meanwhile i committed the source type management code to the SVN.

[Sirber]

Made a build

Infos:
http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=40#p40

Download:
http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10

[Sirber]

New release.

- Settings / FPS
+ Getting FPS from mencoder's logs (inc IVTC fix)
+ Added 48 kbps option (audio)
* Tweaked Source type profiles
* Fixed some minor GUI glitches

Infos:
http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=45#p45

Download:
http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10

[Kurtnoise]

Didn't tried yet but

1°/ Did you use the HE-AAC encoder with the pipeline function ?
2°/ Why there are MediaInfo.exe *and* MediaInfo.dll in the same package ?
3°/ Why faac.exe is still there ?
4°/ Just by curiosity, the sources are available somewhere ?

[Sirber]

1. No, mplayer --> wav --> enhaacplusenc
2. GUI calls the EXE, which uses the DLL, to display the output
3. Oups :)
4. svn://svn.detritus.qc.ca/detritus/bencos

[Kurtnoise]

ok...thanks.

For the 1/ :: I can patch the encoder if you want. I should have it somewhere coz I use it with mplayer & mkfifo directly...

[Sirber]

no temp file? could be cool :D

email me when you want to commit, so I make you an account.

[edit]

would that work on linux and windows?

[Sirber]

seems mkfifo is linux only :)

[Weltall]

Hey, this BENCOS is interesting! I'm very curious about it.
I wanted to ask you some things:

About audio:
1- Why did you change nerodigital to aacplus again and if you are using latest version of it (aacplus 8.0.0 I think)? I was using RA Alpha 2 since now cause I don't like nero digital, since I saw its inferiority. aacplus got even better now, with this version. Plus, I don't know how that "enhAacPlusEnc.exe" works. Is it a substitute for Winamp's "enhAacPlusEnc.dll"? I was wondering about that cause I never saw that lib on RA folder, so if a new version is out I can't update. My doubt is where that exe came from and if it's not updated you could do that.

About video:
2- So you will use mencoder now. I would like to know if I could use ffdshow filters, like "levels", since I always have some very wrong levels inputs to deal with. I don't know how to use that properly, so I'm confused about changes. And I saw this on log: Selected video codec: [ffh264] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264), and couldn't find x264.exe on BENCOS folder. So is it using x264 vfw, is that? How can I know where is the encoder and how to update that?

Help me, Sir Sirber!!!

Btw, I've noticed you changed your avatar (obviously). It's just like me, but with the animes (very sad with naruto, very impressed with Luffy). Just saying :D

[Kurtnoise]

seems mkfifo is linux only :)
Yep...doesn't work on Windows plateform.

Here is the HE-AAC encoder (http://kurtnoise.free.fr/index.php?dir=mp4tools/&file=FloatFR_aacPlusenc.zip) (sources included) with some tweakings:


Usage:
enhAacPlusEnc.exe <wav_file> <bitstream_file> [options]
Options:
--cbr <bitrate> - Set bitrate (CBR) to <bitrate> bps. Default is 64000
--force-mono - Force mono encoding for stereo material
--disable-ps - Disable Parametric Stereo encoding
--no-progress - Disable progress display
Example:
enhAacPlusEnc.exe input.wav out.m4a --cbr 56000

WARNING: this encoder can read and encode RAW PCM data from stdin:
use - as input filename
Use additional options:
--samplerate <rate> - Default is 48000
--channel-count <cnt> - Default is 2
--bits-per-sample <bp> - Default is 16
Example:
enhAacPlusEnc.exe - out.m4a --cbr 56000 --samplerate 44100 --channel-count 1


Target bitrates have been also tweaked to go up to 72kbps...

[Kurtnoise]

I was using RA Alpha 2 since now cause I don't like nero digital, since I saw its inferiority.
hey, you have seen its "inferiority" in a crystal ball ?

Come on, don't speak about something without proofs...

[Weltall]

hey, you have seen its "inferiority" in a crystal ball ?

Come on, don't speak about something without proofs...Oh... sorry, I didn't want to generalize, I was just saying what is true for me, not for everyone. Sorry if you got me wrong. Personally, I'd exchanged aacplus for nero, because of vbr in PS, so I tought it's better. So, in some of my music conversions, I've noticed something. You were talking about proofs. Well, I have one.

Here http://www.mytempdir.com/1146896 or
here http://www.sendspace.com/file/sdl4t1
there's some conversions of an original mp3 at 192kbps Stereo.

Nero Digital (nd): ABR32kbps, VBR16,32,45kbps
aacplus (ap): CBR16,24,32,40kbps.

First, compare low bitrates. Sound in nd at 16kbps is awful, I could clearly perceive higher quality in ap, see what you think. Even ap 24kbps sound looks better than nd's VBR32kbps. At ~45kbps, nd didn't get ap32kbps sound quality (I could say ap24kbps is better). What you think?

I know I couldn't think something like that just for one test only, but I prefer don't risk.

[Kurtnoise]

You mean that you've transcoded a mp3 file to aac and compared them, right ?

Please, use a lossless source first. Then, we can discuss about that.

[Sirber]

@Weltall

1: I'm using enhaacplusenc, the reference encoder, coz it works under windows and linux. Regarding quality, it's pretty good! About the updates, I do it myself and release new versions of the GUI installer.

2: mencoder has libx264 built in, so no x264.exe needed. Also, mencoder doesn't use ffdshow, but has a similar processing power:

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/man/en/mplayer.1.html#VIDEO%20FILTERS

If you find interresting filters you'd like in BENCOS tell me, and we may add them :)

@Kurtnoise13

Gonna update the GUI for HE+PS and HE, and maby later LC too. Thanks!

[Weltall]

You mean that you've transcoded a mp3 file to aac and compared them, right ?

Please, use a lossless source first. Then, we can discuss about that.It's here http://www.mytempdir.com/1156884 or http://up-file.com/download/ca976936690/Music-test.rar.html
Results are almost same as before (even more noticeable for me, I'd say). Btw, I really don't know why this, since I always use the codecs to encode previously encoded sound (mp3 in my animes and tvshows/movies). Well, wherever.

@Weltall

1: I'm using enhaacplusenc, the reference encoder, coz it works under windows and linux. Regarding quality, it's pretty good! About the updates, I do it myself and release new versions of the GUI installer.

2: mencoder has libx264 built in, so no x264.exe needed. Also, mencoder doesn't use ffdshow, but has a similar processing power:

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/man/en/mplayer.1.html#VIDEO%20FILTERS

If you find interresting filters you'd like in BENCOS tell me, and we may add them :)

@Kurtnoise13

Gonna update the GUI for HE+PS and HE, and maby later LC too. Thanks!I didn't know about that reference encoder. Will you add Kurtnoise's tweaked version of it?

I understood about libx264, but, which x264 version it's using? I mean, it's x264, so there is a way to know that? when mencoder updates, it updates that libx264 along? Just to know.

The only filter I would really enjoy is one that works like level filter in ffdshow, with the following levels:
http://xs411.xs.to/xs411/07016/levels3.png
Corrects gray tone of badly ripped/encoded inputs (almost like tv-->pc avisynth filter), also Didee's YlevelsS don't affect dark areas too much as "original mode" (don't make them more darker). That would be very useful to me, cause I'm dealing with files like this everytime.

Btw, I've encoded a tvshow episode and sound gets very unsynchronized. I suppose cause it's 48khz and encoder waits 44khz, but I'm not so sure. Some animes I've encoded are very nice! What do you think?

One more thing, that profiles are just like megui's? I can use "movies" profile for tvshows and I will have same quality results?? It'd make my life so easy, that wouldn't have fun lol.

Thank you very much for your support Sirber!

[Sharktooth]

Profiles are different from the one you find in megui but x264 settings are set by both Quality and Source options.
Source option will affect the deblocking settings and the number of B and Reference frames while the Quality option will affect the ME algorithm, partitions and subpixel refinement.
For what concerns the desync is something we're still working on... but there's no easy way out...

[Sirber]

For what concerns the desync is something we're still working on... but there's no easy way out...That makes old Sirber cry :(

[Sharktooth]

There's no EASY way out...

[Sirber]

There's no EASY way out...Sirber cries.

[Weltall]

Thanks!

What about that filter, Sirber? Is there something like it on mencoder that could be added in BENCOS?

[Sirber]

I'm not sure I can do that with presets :(

We would have to make a level editor, but it might be more complex than BENCOS itself. We'll see after we fix the random delays.

[Weltall]

Don't need to be completely like that, just a filter that corrects gray tone of badly ripped files is more than fine, something like avisynth tv->pc. I think mencoder have that.

Btw, I've tried that 3GPP encoder with another gui that has it, same thing, desync was present. But when I used it with ct aac+ or nerodigital that was gone! With nero digital, delay was 160ms, with newer ct aac+ was 16ms (saw in foobar2000).

[Sirber]

the delay is not caused by the encoder (in our problem), but by mencoder on video stream.

[Weltall]

I've compared conversions with mp3 demuxed file (my foobar doesn't play avi files). 3GPP encoded file had aprox 3 minutes more than the orignal mp3 (what I called desync). It seems sound is played more slowly o.O. So it's different of BENCOS' matter? Ok then, I thought the problem could be that.

What about that?

Don't need to be completely like that, just a filter that corrects gray tone of badly ripped files is more than fine, something like avisynth tv->pc. I think mencoder have that.

[DarkZell666]

for levels correcting, mencoder provides "-vf pp=al:f" (al=autolevels, f=full range), but it doesn't always work (if any single pixel is above the tv max value, the stretching doesn't occur at all, it seems).

[Sirber]

gonna add a checkbox!

[Eretria-chan]

So, what is the "hidden" function in this one, Sirber? ;) The one that is something never seen before!
I just checked out the program and noticed the following...

- No drag & drop (I assume it's on your todo list?)
- No add folders (I assume it's on your todo list?)
- Add files dialog title isn't english.
- A lot of jibberish that is gotten from Mencoder is displayed in the status. Wouldn't is actually be better if you extracted progress, speed and time left instead?
- Currently testing a source that failed in RA. Just to see how it goes...

Again with the quality... what's the difference between them? Is it worth slower speed for a higher Quality profile or is it just better to up the bitrate?

Still doesn't seem to like the audio. Rest of the log was deleted (or isn't showing when pressing the log button):

C:\x86 Apps\Bencos\enhAacPlusEnc.exe "audio.wav" "C:\DOCUME~1\Shizuka\LOKALA~1\Temp/bencos/audio.mp4" --cbr 32000


*************************************************************
* Enhanced aacPlus 3GPP Floating Point Reference Encoder
*
* Source timestamp Wed Jan 3 10:01:12 2007
* Build Jan 3 2007, 10:01:18
*************************************************************

No valid SBR configuration found

[Sirber]

So, what is the "hidden" function in this one, Sirber? ;) The one that is something never seen before!Works on linux? ;)

- No drag & drop (I assume it's on your todo list?)Haven't find a working way with FreePascal yet.

- No add folders (I assume it's on your todo list?)Not on my todo, but could be added.
- Add files dialog title isn't english.In French?
- A lot of jibberish that is gotten from Mencoder is displayed in the status. Wouldn't is actually be better if you extracted progress, speed and time left instead?Way more infos in mencoder output than fancy progressbar ;)

Again with the quality... what's the difference between them? Is it worth slower speed for a higher Quality profile or is it just better to up the bitrate?Should be similar

Still doesn't seem to like the audio. Rest of the log was deleted (or isn't showing when pressing the log button):

C:\x86 Apps\Bencos\enhAacPlusEnc.exe "audio.wav" "C:\DOCUME~1\Shizuka\LOKALA~1\Temp/bencos/audio.mp4" --cbr 32000


*************************************************************
* Enhanced aacPlus 3GPP Floating Point Reference Encoder
*
* Source timestamp Wed Jan 3 10:01:12 2007
* Build Jan 3 2007, 10:01:18
*************************************************************

No valid SBR configuration found

[/quote]Old release maybe?

[Eretria-chan]

Works on linux? ;)
That's all? :p

In French?
Yes, I believe so.

Way more infos in mencoder output than fancy progressbar ;)
But hard to interpet. I couldn't find a way to tell progress in the extracting audio part.

Should be similar
Ummm, you mean the profiles Low vs Normal vs High, or something like Low @ 300, Normal @ 280 and High @ 260?

Old release maybe?
Well, it's the latest release on your site! :scared:
I guess it just loathes that audio that is in that source. Remember, RA hates it too :D

Btw, I still believe audio should be done before video in case audio fails. Then it takes less time if the encoding fails.

[Sirber]

I'm using mencoder logs to see of audio or not, while encoding the video part. It's very hard to have a working encoding chain that works on linu and windows, still we have many problems to get fixed, like the crap delay from AVI. :(

[Eretria-chan]

Hmm... well, doesn't it just work to convert it to mkv/mp4 first and then encode it?
Anyhow, good luck. I'll definitely be waiting for an update! :D

[Sharktooth]

Open file dialog is now in english...

[Sirber]

must be coz of my lazarus french version no?

[Sharktooth]

Probably. However the changelog is on detritus.

[Eretria-chan]

Any chance of mkv this time around?

[Sirber]

input or output?

[Eretria-chan]

Output and input, of course. Does it support mkv input?
A few more things:
- Select output dialog has french text (I assume it is anyway, "una directory").
- Use new XP-style dialog for "Add Files" instead of old, ugly file dialog?
- Recovery for possible I/O error. Select another output location? I just ran into an I/O error at the merging process because I forgot to change output dir and have set no permissions to C:\ to keep apps from saving junk there.
- Maybe change default output directory from C:\ to something else? C:\, at least for me, can be a dangerous directory.
- Recovery, the process of moving on to the next file in the queue if the encoding process fails (can I take it that it's planned?).

EDIT:
Error:
Cannot open destination file F:\Downloads\Temp\[#YuGiOh!]Yu-Gi-Oh!_-_001_-_The_Bloodcurdling_Blue-Eyes_White_Dragon(3696EC70).mp4: I/O Error
I'll tell you, however, that I can perfectly well copy and create files in that directory.

EDIT2: Is the video somehow raw? Mkvmerge can't mux it because it doesn't recognize it.

[Sirber]

@Eretria-chan

Gonna do a write checkup in output folder. The next file should be encoded in case of error. GOnna recheck the code.

Video is RAW indeed.

[Sirber]

new build online. changelog and download on my site.

[Eretria-chan]

I'll have a look and do more tests tomorrow then. I'll let you know the results.
Things I noticed right away is that the select output directory still isn't english and version says "Bencos v2007-01-06 loaded," which clearly isn't the case.
More testing tomorrow ^_^

Test 1 - Encode to C: Failed. Reason: Cannot open destination file c:\[#YuGiOh!]Yu-Gi-Oh!_-_001_-_The_Bloodcurdling_Blue-Eyes_White_Dragon(3696EC70).mp4: I/O Error
Test 2 - Encode to F:\Downloads\Temp: Failed. Reason: Cannot open destination file F:\Downloads\Temp\[#YuGiOh!]Yu-Gi-Oh!_-_001_-_The_Bloodcurdling_Blue-Eyes_White_Dragon(3696EC70).mp4: I/O Error

It looks like nothing has changed with this build...

[Sirber]

@Eretria-chan

You can the changelog on my site. Your issues haven't been checked yet. We are focusing our efforts to get rid of the MoFu delay problem:

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?id=29

[Amnon82]

@Siber: when do you think you guys have the first linux version ready?

[Sirber]

Someone just needs to compile one using Lazarus, but with the audio delay problem, currently encoding with bencos is a bit useless... :(

compile bencos, in the installation path, soft-link all the needed encoders and bencos should work.

[Sirber]

I think I found and fixed the audio delay problem. More infos here:

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=110#p110

[Eretria-chan]

Nice work! Now if the program would just merge the encoded sources together, I could actually test the newly encoded file...

[Sirber]

Nice work! Now if the program would just merge the encoded sources together, I could actually test the newly encoded file...what do you mean, merge encoded sources? Past source which had delay problem will still have it using older bencos version. You will need to recode them using bencos 2007-02-02.

[Eretria-chan]

The problems I have reported already. It fails to merge on the end.
Cannot open destination file F:\Downloads\Temp\[#YuGiOh!]Yu-Gi-Oh!_-_001_-_The_Bloodcurdling_Blue-Eyes_White_Dragon(3696EC70).mp4: I/O Error
And yes, there is write permission in F:\Downloads\Temp and no, it's not an invalid filename, as I can rename and copy a file with that filename just fine.

[Sirber]

What if you do the merge manually?

[Eretria-chan]

Well, mkvmerge fails because the video is raw. I haven't tested with whatever you're doing. I don't have the command line, and I suppose I'll have to do another encode to see if I can figure it out...

[Sirber]

mp4box -add video.264 -fps 23.976 -add audio.mp4 -new out.mp4

[Eretria-chan]

Well, seeing as it stores files in the temp folder and it's regularly cleaned, there's nothing there now, so I'll do a new encode tomorrow and see what the results are.

[Sirber]

try another output folder. Are you running on vista again?

[Eretria-chan]

Nope, regular XP Prof.
"C:\x86 Apps\Bencos\MP4Box.exe" -add C:\DOCUME~1\Shizuka\LOKALA~1\Temp/bencos/video.264 -fps 29.970 -new "F:\Downloads\Temp\[#YuGiOh!]Yu-Gi-Oh!_-_001_-_The_Bloodcurdling_Blue-Eyes_White_Dragon(3696EC70).mp4 " -add "C:\DOCUME~1\Shizuka\LOKALA~1\Temp/bencos/audio.mp4"
Cannot open destination file F:\Downloads\Temp\[#YuGiOh!]Yu-Gi-Oh!_-_001_-_The_Bloodcurdling_Blue-Eyes_White_Dragon(3696EC70).mp4: I/O Error

"C:\x86 Apps\Bencos\MP4Box.exe" -add C:\DOCUME~1\Shizuka\LOKALA~1\Temp/bencos/video.264 -fps 23.976 -new "F:\Downloads\Temp\SonicX 01.mp4" -add "C:\DOCUME~1\Shizuka\LOKALA~1\Temp/bencos/audio.mp4"
Cannot open destination file F:\Downloads\Temp\SonicX 01.mp4: I/O Error

[Sirber]

something's wrong. :p

try other folder or shorther filenames.

[Eretria-chan]

It doesn't matter where I put it. The same thing happens.

"C:\x86 Apps\Bencos\MP4Box.exe" -add C:\DOCUME~1\Shizuka\LOKALA~1\Temp/bencos/video.264 -fps 23.976 -new "F:\SonicX 01.mp4" -add "C:\DOCUME~1\Shizuka\LOKALA~1\Temp/bencos/audio.mp4"
Cannot open destination file F:\SonicX 01.mp4: I/O Error

[Sirber]

how about not using F:?

[Sharktooth]

try also removing the space in the output filename

[Sirber]

writing to C: works, but it seems that using F: doesn't work so well.

[Sharktooth]

uhm, write permissions?

[Eretria-chan]

Does not work:

C:\Documents and Settings\Shizuka>"C:\x86 Apps\Bencos\MP4Box.exe" -add C:\DOCUME~1\Shizuka\LOKALA~1\Temp/bencos/video.264 -fps 23.976 -new "C:\test\SonicX 01.mp4" -add "C:\DOCUME~1\Shizuka\LOKALA~1\Temp/bencos/audio.mp4"
Cannot open destination file C:\test\SonicX 01.mp4: I/O Error

C:\Documents and Settings\Shizuka>"C:\x86 Apps\Bencos\MP4Box.exe" -add C:\DOCUME~1\Shizuka\LOKALA~1\Temp/bencos/video.264 -fps 23.976 -new "C:\test\SonicX01.mp4" -add "C:\DOCUME~1\Shizuka\LOKALA~1\Temp/bencos/audio.mp4"
Cannot open destination file C:\test\SonicX01.mp4: I/O Error

Does work:

C:\Documents and Settings\Shizuka>"C:\x86 Apps\Bencos\MP4Box.exe" -add C:\DOCUME~1\Shizuka\LOKALA~1\Temp/bencos/video.264 -fps 23.976 -new "C:\SonicX01.mp4" -add "C:\DOCUME~1\Shizuka\LOKALA~1\Temp/bencos/audio.mp4"
C:\Documents and Settings\Shizuka>"C:\x86 Apps\Bencos\MP4Box.exe" -add C:\DOCUME~1\Shizuka\LOKALA~1\Temp/bencos/video.264 -fps 23.976 -new "C:\SonicX 01.mp4" -add "C:\DOCUME~1\Shizuka\LOKALA~1\Temp/bencos/audio.mp4"

Now that's just stupid. I don't want to output to C:\. C:\ is write protected anyway. File permissions are correct (using NTFS).

[Sirber]

Seems to be a file permission problem. Nothing we can fix on our side :)

[Eretria-chan]

File permissions? There's nothing wrong on my side. It's the software that screws up.
I can, for example, merge with mkvmerge to F:\Downloads\Temp. Bencos cannot, so it's on your side...

[Sirber]

Bencos cannot, so it's on your side...Bencos only launch mp4box, and mp4box fails on your system. File a bug report to gpac team, since it has issues only for you on your machine. Nothing we can do.

[Sharktooth]

as sirber said the error comes from mp4box, so it has nothing to do with bencos code.
theres no way we cant fix it.

[Eretria-chan]

Mp4box, huh?
OK, so I have no idea where to report that error, but maybe you do?
Oh and, I think I need to know what version you're using also? It might help. Maybe.

[Sirber]

http://gpac.sourceforge.net/home_support.php

Google is your friend ;)

[Sirber]

posted a new version

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=11#p11

MKV output on it's way.

[Sirber]

new version again. Celtic Druid made some discoveries on drop duplicate frames.
So, I posted a new build reflecting this new approach. Please test and feedback!

[Sharktooth]

Just a warning. The Debug profile is very fast but has a VERY LOW quality.
Dont use it unless for debugging...

[Sirber]

Just a warning. The Debug profile is very fast but has a VERY LOW quality.
Dont use it unless for debugging...I think I'll put it down the list, so we can put it and remove if whitout too much code change.

On my todo list:
* Add MPEG4 ASP
* Add AAC HE
* Add AAC LC
* Add MP3
* Add AVI, if MP3 is selected

[Eretria-chan]

This is what the GPAC team says about the issue:

This is likely a temp file creation issue, this bug has been reported by Win2K and XP users. Unfortunately there is no automatic workaround for this bug, you will hav to specify a temporary directory for file creation:

MP4Box ... -tmp Path/To/My/Dir


Hope this helps

jean

Maybe this helps...?

[Sirber]

thanks! gonna be fixed in next release.

[Mgz]

is it possible to encode the video file only ? I usually need to encode FRAPS content (with no audio) to XviD

[Eretria-chan]

But I don't think Bencos will do xvid, or will it? Why not do x264?

[Sirber]

xvid is on the way.

If your source don't have audio, output won't have audio either.
To not have audio, bot usre if it works, but set an audio track number that doesn't exist, like 42.

[Eretria-chan]

Bencos also fails if there's no video in the file. RA5 works like a charm, though.
Though RA5 used Nero's AAC encoder it seems, and bencos uses enhAacPlusEnc.exe, and I think the later is better?
Well, I'd like to be able to encode even if there's no video stream in the container.

[Sirber]

Bencos don't verify the source like RA5 did. It only check if there's audio while performing the video first pass encoding.

Bencos requires you to have a video stream, but audio stream is optional. Use another tool for audio-only recoding, there are plenty out there.

[Eretria-chan]

Yeah, lots and lots and lots of time finding plus lots of commercial non-free non-AAC encoding software. Feh.
But, at this time, I guess there's no choice.

[Sirber]

@Eretria-chan

this might interrest you:
http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=154#p154

[killerhex]

@sirber

what made you change your mind a nd re-add mpeg4 ASP into the app

[Sharktooth]

Bencos on the contrary of RA is a generic batch encoder )which means it has different profiles for movies, animes, etc...). MPEG-4 ASP is necessary for standalones compatibility and it is still the most used standard on the internet. MPEG-4 ASP is also lightweight and (optimal for low end computers) and it's more appetible for a wider range of users, so it's necessary for a general encoding app to have it.

[Eretria-chan]

This seems like RA4/RA5 all over again under a new name, using mencoder. Well, not that I'm complaining. They were good, so this one should be too.

[killerhex]

isnt this app a lot better than the RA

[Eretria-chan]

Why would it be? Currently, it's inferior to RA because most things haven't been added yet. And what does BENCOS have that RA does not? The only thing I can think of right now is dvd input and movie profiles. And linux support, of course. Very neat features, and I do hope there's more to come.
But RA had so much more, so BENCOS isn't better just yet...

[Sirber]

Now that the biggest problem is fixed, the massive framedrops and gray frames, we can add more stuff to bencos and make it the best GUI ever :)

Currently bencos handle more inputs than RA5 and is more stable, it also have more profiles than RA4/5.

[Eretria-chan]

...we can add more stuff to bencos and make it the best GUI ever :)
Looking forward to it :D

[Amnon82]

Any news about a linux build?

[Eretria-chan]

I snatched the latest build on the site and, aside from the whole can't encode to any other dir than C:\, it looks like it worked. The sound quality was what I tested and there seems to be no delays and good quality @ 24 kbps. Artifacts appeared when using 16, but that's to be expected.
Good work!

[Sirber]

@Eretria-chan

Output to F: still fails?

@Amnon82

I'll make the nessessary mod during the week for linux use. Then you'll need someone to compile it.

[Sirber]

Some thoughts about mkv and subtitles:

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=157#p157

[Eretria-chan]

Latest release can encode to F:\ with both MP4 & MKV. Select output dir dialog is still not english, though.

[Sirber]

Latest release can encode to F:\ with both MP4 & MKV.Good :)

Select output dir dialog is still not english, though.Maybe Sharktooth can fix that one like the other one, I have no clue on how he did.

[Sirber]

I talked with Sharktooth. As soon as we get DVD input and bencos.ini, he'll compile and post linux bins.

[Sharktooth]

I'm cursed... my NEW hard drive is ugly clicking... and the PC crashes and reboots continuously...
Time to get a new one... :(
It's like the 7th hard drive (even of different brands) with the same problem in less than 3 years.
I think there's some sort of huge electromagnetic filed or something that's killing my HDDs. Tried even different PSUs... :(
Luckily there are linux livecd/dvds...

[celtic_druid]

You could use 2.5" drives. That way you get a 5 year warranty. SATA ones use a regular SATA connection to. Only ~120GB's though.

[Sharktooth]

Well, the drive is still covered by guarantee. However, as usual, it's difficult to recover data... :(
Last time i had some success with HDD Regenerator... but this time it's taking 2 days for 3Gb (247Gb left...)
Also im very lazy and my winxp installation is ubercustomized, so ill have a heart attack if i just think ill have to reinstall the OS...
So, i think i will stick completely with linux until i can recover most of the data.

[Eretria-chan]

It's a crying shame. I do hope it works out well.

[Sirber]

@Shark

The good side of that, linux build of Bencos will have more support ;)

[Eretria-chan]

Bug / Not implememted: When selecting multiple files in list and selecting remove from the menu, only the last selected files is removed.

Successfully encoded 6 files so far. Haven't checked them yet, though.
I'd like to see Bencos save its settings and encoding list soon, if possible and if you have time... as well as RA's Award-Winning Intelligent Encoding(TM) (Go to next file in list if error).
Also, as a suggestion, when aborting encode, wouldn't it make more sense to mark the file as "aborted" and that the file will re-encode automatically next time I hit start? Currently, you have to reset status for the aborted file for it to work again. Also, clear status could work completed files, so I won't have to re-add them again. Useful for debugging (and testing).

[Sirber]

Bug / Not implememted: When selecting multiple files in list and selecting remove from the menu, only the last selected files is removed.I tried to make it work, but I failed :) I'll try again later.

I'd like to see Bencos save its settings and encoding list soon, if possible and if you have time... as well as RA's Award-Winning Intelligent Encoding(TM) (Go to next file in list if error).It's supposed to do that since the last revision. I changed the "break;" for "continue;" :)

Also, as a suggestion, when aborting encode, wouldn't it make more sense to mark the file as "aborted" and that the file will re-encode automatically next time I hit start? Currently, you have to reset status for the aborted file for it to work again. Yes! I note that.

Also, clear status could work completed files, so I won't have to re-add them again. Useful for debugging (and testing).It does. I recoded the same file that way.

[Eretria-chan]

It does. I recoded the same file that way.

Not in my revision anyway.

Another thing: When you hit Stop, it stops the current encoding file and goes on to the next. The Stop button is also disabled, which means you can't stop the process, by any other means than terminating the process.

[Sirber]

Another thing: When you hit Stop, it stops the current encoding file and goes on to the next. The Stop button is also disabled, which means you can't stop the process, by any other means than terminating the process.oups :o
"Stop" is considered as an error, so it goes on the next file ;)

[Sharktooth]

Good :)

Maybe Sharktooth can fix that one like the other one, I have no clue on how he did.
Done.

[Eretria-chan]

I'm still waiting for a new build, though, to test the new implementations. The latest is 02-11.

[Sirber]

We have day life you know... this is a free time project.

[Eretria-chan]

Hey. I wasn't saying you SHOULD release one. Just saying I'm waiting 'til you do. In other words, take your time.

[Sirber]

oups :o
"Stop" is considered as an error, so it goes on the next file ;)

fixed and released

[Eretria-chan]

Just a quick browse through the program and I see the browse for folder is english! That's good. It still says it's version 02-11. A small miss, though not important.
IF you don't mind me asking, are you planning on adding the ability to save the encoding list and settings on exit anytime soon?

[Sirber]

I'm adding more audio codecs, build date will be fixed then :)

IF you don't mind me asking, are you planning on adding the ability to save the encoding list and settings on exit anytime soon?Save settings planned, save list not planned yet. Will be in the nexts weeks.

So much to do... so not enough devs and time :)

[Eretria-chan]

Well, it will be done eventually, and that's what matters I guess...

[Mgz]

@sirber

what made you change your mind a nd re-add mpeg4 ASP into the app

sweet, there is a huge community of AMV/MAD style video maker of FRAP content from video game, and most of the video editing software doesn't like H.264/MP4 alot x.x (such as Sony Vegas, even the 2007 version :/ )

[Sirber]

@Mgz

I don't understant the link between killerhez post, your reply and bencos :confused:

[Eretria-chan]

sweet, there is a huge community of AMV/MAD style video maker of FRAP content from video game, and most of the video editing software doesn't like H.264/MP4 alot x.x (such as Sony Vegas, even the 2007 version :/ )

Lossy video shouldn't be edited, you know? Best use lossless, so just re-encode with a lossless solution, edit your heart away and then encode to H264.

[Sirber]

a user found a mencoder build that doesn't crash on P4. you can get it here:

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10

[nfm]

Where's the link for Linux version?

[Sirber]

there's currently no linux release. Sharktooth will post one once the DVD input code and the settings saving code is done.

[Eretria-chan]

I have a feeling this isn't good output from whatever Bencos is doing:

C:\x86 Apps\Bencos\mencoder.exe "..." -mc 0 -of rawvideo -ovc x264 -oac pcm -o C:\DOCUME~1\Shizuka\LOKALA~1\Temp/bencos/video.264 -x264encopts deblock=0,0:bframes=2:frameref=2:threads=auto:b_pyramid:nofast_pskip:nopsnr:bitrate=312:pass=1:turbo=2 -vf harddup

MEncoder Sherpya-r22220-MinGW-4.1.1 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ (Family: 15, Model: 43, Stepping: 1)
SSE2 supported but disabled
3DNow supported but disabled
3DNowExt supported but disabled
CPUflags: Type: 15 MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 0
Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 SSE

success: format: 0 data: 0x0 - 0xe871bb2
Matroska file format detected.
VIDEO: [DX50] 696x520 24bpp 29.970 fps 0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [faad] AAC (MPEG2/4 Advanced Audio Coding)
FAAD: compressed input bitrate missing, assuming 128kbit/s!
AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/9.07% (ratio: 16000->176400)
Selected audio codec: [faad] afm: faad (FAAD AAC (MPEG-2/MPEG-4 Audio) decoder)
==========================================================================
Opening video filter: [expand osd=1]
Expand: -1 x -1, -1 ; -1, osd: 1, aspect: 0.000000, round: 1
Opening video filter: [harddup]
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffodivx] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-4)
==========================================================================
VDec: vo config request - 696 x 520 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12)
VDec: using Planar I420 as output csp (no 1)
Movie-Aspect is 1.34:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
x264 [warning]: width or height not divisible by 16 (696x520), compression will suffer.
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 3DNow!
New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong.
Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).
subtitle font: load_sub_face failed.

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

1 duplicate frame(s)!

It would appear there's something it doesn't like...

[Sirber]

"-vf harddup"

keeps the duplicates, else they are dropped and you would get delays. Everything is fine.

If you see "Error decoding...", now you can panic :)

[edit]

What's your tipical recoding FPS on both pass with 640x480@24FPS anime with your X2, at quality medium? I get 30-40/8-12 on my 3000+.

[Eretria-chan]

Alright, let's just hope these files don't come out corrupt...
First pass speed is about 45 - 50 fps. Second pass is 10 - 13 FPS.
I believe RA was faster than Bencos on the second pass, though? Although, so then again, this source is 696x520@29.970 fps, so I would say it's only natural it's a little slower.

The settings I tend to use with Bencos:
http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/7/2/21/t_BencosConfim_2e057e3.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?srv=img02&img=/7/2/21/f_BencosConfim_2e057e3.jpg)

EDIT: With multiple audio containing containers (ie matroska), Bencos seemed to encode only the first audio, which was english in this case... and it did not take any subtitles. So, how to fix this? Bug or a setting?

[killerhex]

is it dvd ready

[Eretria-chan]

The worst fears have now come to pass...
Bencos failed on audio encoding. Why? No idea. Since it doesn't keep logs of past events, that information is now lost to me. Further, it doesn't help that the audio encoding comes AFTER the video encoding. The video encoding pass was now wasted because audio failed.
Now that's why I always wanted audio encoding first....

[Sirber]

@Eretria-chan

Due to mencoder design and other limitation, the only way to know if there's audio in the source is from mencoder logs from video first pass. Also, mencoder will use the first audio track unless you set the audio track number (aid).

[Eretria-chan]

Due to mencoder design and other limitation, the only way to know if there's audio in the source is from mencoder logs from video first pass.
There is audio in the file, but it doesn't want to encode it...

Also, mencoder will use the first audio track unless you set the audio track number (aid).

But I have NO idea whatsoever to specify what track to use, or if it's possible to select a certain LANGUAGE track and subtitle track to keep. If not, then I would say mencoder is inherently flawed.

Concerning abovementioned problem...
I don't know where Bencos places the audio file that it extracts, but it isn't in the temp directory and the error "No valid SBR configuration found" is what enhAacPlusEnc.exe returns.

[Sirber]

I don't know where Bencos places the audio file that it extracts, but it isn't in the temp directory and the error "No valid SBR configuration found" is what enhAacPlusEnc.exe returns.

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?id=36

enhaacplusenc only supports 44khz audio and 48khz.

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10

Features:
# Doesn't use VFW or DirectShow codecs
# Doesn't modify your system
- Video codec: MPEG4 AVC (x264)
- Audio codec: AAC HE+PS, AAC HE, AAC LC
- Input: AVI, MKV, MP4, OGM, AVS*
- Input audio: 44kHz or 48kHz
- Output: MP4, MKV
* deprends on your mencoder build

But I have NO idea whatsoever to specify what track to use, or if it's possible to select a certain LANGUAGE track and subtitle track to keep. If not, then I would say mencoder is inherently flawed.

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?id=11
http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=159#p159
http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=168#p168

Best go read over my forum, since it's the main development site.

[Eretria-chan]

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?id=36

enhaacplusenc only supports 44khz audio and 48khz.

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10

Features:
# Doesn't use VFW or DirectShow codecs
# Doesn't modify your system
- Video codec: MPEG4 AVC (x264)
- Audio codec: AAC HE+PS, AAC HE, AAC LC
- Input: AVI, MKV, MP4, OGM, AVS*
- Input audio: 44kHz or 48kHz
- Output: MP4, MKV
* deprends on your mencoder build

That error is misleading. There would be no way I knew the sampling rate it had. It doesn't make it easier when Bencos puts the audio temp file in bencos\codecs. That's not Vista compatible in the least either.

As for bencos 20061223, track selection is only by Track ID:

MPEG: 0−31
AVI/OGM: 1−99
ASF/RM: 0−127
VOB(AC3): 128−159
VOB(LPCM): 160−191
MPEG-TS: 17−8190
from mplayer manpages

MKV/MP4: 0−99
from testing
That makes no sense.

...And subtitles were removed at the moment? That means testing of such sources would have to wait I guess?

[Sirber]

That error is misleading. There would be no way I knew the sampling rate it had. It doesn't make it easier when Bencos puts the audio temp file in bencos\codecs.I have to extract the audio with mplayer, and it doesn't support paths. So it just to anywhere. Also, in bencos, you can right click on your file in the list and select Info.

That's not Vista compatible in the least either.Couldn't care less...

...And subtitles were removed at the moment? That means testing of such sources would have to wait I guess?It's work in progress. You can see everything that change here:

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=32#p32

[Eretria-chan]

Couldn't care less...
Plus it's very unfriendly with limited user accounts, plus it's wasted space. Plus some will eventually get Vista and you will maybe get some complaints...
But mencoder, such a big thing, it doesn't support audio extraction? Using mplayer to do it seems stupid. Mplayer seems to be even more flawed as it cannot even output the audio to a certain path.
Well, I'm sure a way will open up sometime in the future...

[Sirber]

I tested plenny and the best way is mplayer. My job is to workaround all that crap and get something working.

If you have a better solution to the encoding process I'm listening. Complaining won't get us anywhere.

[Eretria-chan]

I agree - but if you don't plan on using non-Windows tech, like DirectShow, then I have no further ideas, then maybe, find some library floating around out there to decode the audio to wav and maybe sample it to 44 khz.
Well, that's all. For now anyway I guess...

[Sirber]

I'll add a filter for audio sampling, but I cannot force it.
I'll ask Celtic Druid if he can make a patch for mplayer to be able to specify a path.

[celtic_druid]

You can specify a path. Just can't contain a ":". So basically you need to use something like msys or use "%n%string_of_length_n" to escape it. Don't think it works for all options where you can specify paths. Definitely should work for -ao pcm though.

[Eretria-chan]

Just a thought, but Bencos allows you to change settings while its encoding, but it won't honor those new settings unless you stop and restart the encoding process.

[Sirber]

@CD
Could you give me an exemple please?

@Eretria-chan
Like all my GUI ;) Should be better in yours I assume.

[Eretria-chan]

@Eretria-chan
Like all my GUI ;) Should be better in yours I assume.

If I actually can find motivation to finish it -_-
Relying on your GUI is so easy! :D

[Eretria-chan]

Hey, this thing can even encode files streamed through Network! Awesome!
Is that supposed to happen? Mencoder suffered from a access violation, but Bencos continued as if nothing happened. I have yet to see if it was the Network streaming that caused the problem.

[Sirber]

What do you mean by network streaming?

[buzzqw]

i think capture the internet/network (mms/rtps...) video stream and encode on the fly

BHH

[Eretria-chan]

What do you mean by network streaming?

I encode files by selecting them from network (ie, the file is on another computer).
Further update on the problem suggests that it's related to the Intel Core Duo processor since the problem seems to appear even if the files are stored locally.
Yes, the test was conducted with Vista and UAC disabled, but I'm still learning towards the processor. Tested with latest Bencos build. I'll try the P4 package, if I can...

UPDATE: It seems the Debug profile doesn't crash, just as the P4 crash thread suggestion. It would appear it's the same problem. I've applied the P4 patch. Now let's see if it crashes again...
UPDATE2: It works!

Well, you'll be thrilled to hear that it works to encode files through Network.
Hey, what revision of x264 is mencoder using?
Sneaky... Bencos is saving settings somewhere I don't know... I wonder where? I'm too lazy to find out right now.

[DarkZell666]

"Streaming over network ...", lol this is simply via shared directories from what I understand, as in "\\192.168.1.2\mysharedanime\narutosux101.avi".

Streaming would have been mms/rtsp indeed (though that should work too btw ;)).

[Eretria-chan]

Yes, it's via shared directories, but it's streaming over the network. It isn't stored locally--it's sent over the network - hence, streaming. Streaming over network, not internet.

[Sirber]

your file has to be "C:\blabla.avi", aka real files readable via cmdline. Why playing with fire?

[Eretria-chan]

Because it works. It works very well. Why transfer files and fill the relatively small HD with a lot of duplicate material when I don't need to?

Z:\Program Files\Bencos\mencoder.exe "\\IRIA-PC\...\Movies\Anime\Tsubasa Chronicle\Tsubasa Chronicle - 06.avi" -mc 0 -of rawvideo -ovc x264 -oac pcm -o Z:\Users\Selune\AppData\Local\Temp/bencos/video.264 -x264encopts deblock=1,1:bframes=5:frameref=5:threads=auto:b_pyramid:nofast_pskip:nopsnr:bitrate=326:pass=2:8x8dct:weight_b:mixed_refs:me=umh:bime:partitions=all:subq=6:brdo:trellis=1 -nosound -vf harddup

The encoded files are perfectly watchable! So far I've encoded 5 files this way and encoding the 6th file and what can I say? It works very well.
Maybe I should experiment putting the output directory on the network drive as well!

So you see, the files does not need to be "C:\blabla.avi". They don't need to be local at all.
And btw, Bencos works perfectly under Vista with UAC disabled. Dunno 'bout it enabled, though.

Hmm, seems that it doesn't work the other way around. OH well.
Ah! Map a network drive and it works! YES!

[Sirber]

just map a network drive...

[Eretria-chan]

I just did. It works.

[Eretria-chan]

Sirber, can't you just encode audio before video? It makes it easier when the program fails to encode the audio. Saves a lot of time.

[Sirber]

Sirber, can't you just encode audio before video? It makes it easier when the program fails to encode the audio. Saves a lot of time.

no, no and no. already explained that matters a lot, and the last time was 3 days ago, to you.

:search:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=959129#post959129 :sly:

[Eretria-chan]

Don't yell at me! :/ I fear you!
Did I miss it? Or just not remember it? Hmmm. Oh well.
But... can you not simply try to extract the audio with mplayer and see if it fails? I guess not...
I know I mentioned it before, but there's no progress on encoding non-44 KHz sources, is there?

[Eretria-chan]

Hmm, are there any plans for "skip if exists" option in the future? I also see that Bencos writes to the user profile (eg C:\Documents and Settings\User\bencos.ini), but I would think it's better fit in %appdata%.
How is the filelist coming? I'd like to add lots of files, but since drag & drop doesn't work and add directory doesn't exist, it tends to become somewhat of a drag...
The ini file doesn't support files either to my knowledge...
How's work coming along? Taking a break or just busy tampering with the source? :)

[Sirber]

Linux users please read:

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=235#p235

[Eretria-chan]

First bugreport in a while...
I don't know if it's Mencoder related, but... anyway, here's the deal. The following source:

General #0
Complete name :
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Format/Family : RIFF
File size : 175 MiB
PlayTime : 24mn 5s
Bit rate : 1010 Kbps
Writing library : VirtualDub build 13870/release
Video #0
Codec : XviD
Codec/Family : MPEG-4
Codec/Info : XviD project
Codec settings/BVOP : No
Codec settings/QPel : No
Codec settings/GMC : 0
Codec settings/Matri : Default
PlayTime : 24mn 5s
Bit rate : 869 Kbps
Width : 640 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.118
Audio #0
Codec : MPEG-1 Audio layer 3
Codec profile : Joint stereo
PlayTime : 24mn 5s
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits

Original length: 24:05. Encoded length: 45:50! When seeking past the 24:05, I get a crash in libavcodec. The filesize is 110 mb, too big for a 24:05 movie. I'm going to try to fetch a log from the encoding passes and see if anything else turns up...

First pass:
C:\x86 Apps\Bencos\mencoder.exe "(...).avi" -mc 0 -of rawvideo -ovc x264 -oac pcm -o C:\DOCUME~1\Shizuka\LOKALA~1\Temp/bencos/video.264 -x264encopts deblock=1,1:bframes=5:frameref=5:threads=auto:b_pyramid:nofast_pskip:nopsnr:bitrate=318:pass=1:turbo=2 -vf harddup

MEncoder Sherpya-SVN-r22351-4.1.2 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ (Family: 15, Model: 43, Stepping: 1)
SSE supported but disabled
SSE2 supported but disabled
CPUflags: Type: 15 MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 0 SSE2: 0
Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 3DNow 3DNowEx

success: format: 0 data: 0x0 - 0xaf2a800
AVI file format detected.
VIDEO: [XVID] 640x480 24bpp 23.976 fps 878.8 kbps (107.3 kbyte/s)
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/8.33% (ratio: 16000->192000)
Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3)
==========================================================================
Opening video filter: [expand osd=1]
Expand: -1 x -1, -1 ; -1, osd: 1, aspect: 0.000000, round: 1
Opening video filter: [harddup]
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffodivx] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-4)
==========================================================================
VDec: vo config request - 640 x 480 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12)
VDec: using Planar I420 as output csp (no 1)
Movie-Aspect is 1.33:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 3DNow!
New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong.
Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).
subtitle font: load_sub_face failed.

[Sirber]

I had that problem a few times.

close bencos, clean "%TEMP%\bencos\*.*" then retry it.

[Eretria-chan]

Doesn't work.

[Sirber]

send me your source I'll see what I can do.

[Eretria-chan]

I believe you have One Piece, yes? It happens all the time on all those sources and no other.

[Sirber]

I am currently recoding one piece and I have no problems what so ever. I'm at ep 083.

[Eretria-chan]

Maybe the "no other" part was wrong. It seems it's doing to every source now...
Or at least other sources. Some old ones are unaffected, some old ones are affected.
If I had to guess, this seems to be mencoder's problem. All these problems with mencoder and RA5 doesn't work... great.

[Sirber]

If you find why it's doing that I'll fix in bencos, else I can't do much...

[Eretria-chan]

I'll just have to make sure to find a source it does not affect... and one it does affect.

[Eretria-chan]

Testing newest build. Failing that, I'll test the P4 build, since the other computer does not seem affected.

[Sirber]

Testing newest build. Failing that, I'll test the P4 build, since the other computer does not seem affected.

So you get Access Violation from mencoder on second pass? You are so unclear sometimes...

[weaver4]

Will BENCOS take a Vob file as input?

[Sirber]

Sharktooth is working on DVD input, but I think currently you can add VOB files directly, but it will output one mp4 per vob file.

[Eretria-chan]

So you get Access Violation from mencoder on second pass? You are so unclear sometimes...

Hehehe... no, it made the output files 44 minutes in length, though the source was 24 minutes. Anyhow, with the new build, the problem is gone, so that's one less thing to worry about!
Looking forward to testing subtitles and troublesome sound sources in your next build when it's ready!
Take your time!

[Sirber]

Take your time!

Will do! :cool:

[Eretria-chan]

Unfortunately, it doesn't solve the infamous Core Duo crashing problem. Meh.
Well, it isn't all that bad - just have to use the special version of mencoder and it will work.

[Sirber]

Can you provide me a build that works on CoreDuo? I'll add it to the sticky.

[Eretria-chan]

The P4 one in the sticky works perfectly fine.

[Sirber]

The P4 one in the sticky works perfectly fine.

Not sure this build uses pthread (multiple CPU)...

[Eretria-chan]

Well, I get identical speed on both versions of Mencoder, so it's all good and well. The Core Duo is clocked at 1.83 GHz and the Athlon 64 X2 is clocked at 2.01 GHz, so unless I should be getting more speed out of the Core Duo, this build works...
Of course, if there are any other builds, I'd be happy to test.

[Sirber]

look in task manager to see if both core are used.

[Eretria-chan]

They are indeed. 100% CPU use.

[Sirber]

Cool! Maybe I could use that build in default setup...
It seems to use SSE/SSE2 too even in "cpu detection mode".

[Weltall]

Hi Sirber! I'm amazed with no delay conversion of Bencos, now I really trust on outputs and don't open them to see if they're delayed, thank you for that. Btw, why?? Is there something to do with new enhAacPlusEnc?

Lastly, I've noticed you added "Fix levels" to your GUI, how it works, compared with ffdshow? Is it something like Levels(16,1,240,0,255) (avisynth tv->pc)?

I get many tv levels encodings in my country, so It's my only big worrying when encoding (I've posted some screenshots in my topic about this here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=856867)).

I'm very curious about many functions BENCOS has (and could come to have). Maybe it's asking too much, but I have the excuse of user feedback:) then it would be great if you write a readme (maybe hints too!) explaining its functions and what the filters you added do with the configs you used when adding, so we could really understand them. Yeah... very great!

[Eretria-chan]

Btw, my latest findings!

- Add a lot of files to the playlist in Vista and no file will get added. Works fine in XP.
- You can remove the currently encoding file from the playlist. It doesn't screw up anythng, but it's weird.
- Sometimes files fail to encode when both height and width is not multiple of 16. x264 fails if I'm not mistaken. But using resizing to fix that works.
- Sometimes it says corrupt source. I haven't investigated those files yet, though.

[Sirber]

Hi Sirber! I'm amazed with no delay conversion of Bencos, now I really trust on outputs and don't open them to see if they're delayed, thank you for that. Btw, why?? Is there something to do with new enhAacPlusEnc?
New encoding chain. Bencos doesn't use DirectShow or VFW decoders, everything is done with mencoder and mplayer. With the help of many people now it's working relativly well :)

Lastly, I've noticed you added "Fix levels" to your GUI, how it works, compared with ffdshow? Is it something like Levels(16,1,240,0,255) (avisynth tv->pc)?
if (chkFLevel.Checked) then
sOptTmp := sOptTmp + ' -vf pp=al:f ';
from manpages:
al/autolevels[:f/fullyrange]

automatic brightness / contrast correction

f/fullyrange: Stretch luminance to (0−255).

I'm very curious about many functions BENCOS has (and could come to have). Maybe it's asking too much, but I have the excuse of user feedback:) then it would be great if you write a readme (maybe hints too!) explaining its functions and what the filters you added do with the configs you used when adding, so we could really understand them. Yeah... very great!
I'll make a readme someday, when bencos gets more stable. I'm still not finished with all the features I want / need.

- Add a lot of files to the playlist in Vista and no file will get added. Works fine in XP.
Try to remove the .manifest from bencos folder. Could be UI problems.

- You can remove the currently encoding file from the playlist. It doesn't screw up anythng, but it's weird.
Yes. GUI and encoding chain are separated.

- Sometimes files fail to encode when both height and width is not multiple of 16. x264 fails if I'm not mistaken. But using resizing to fix that works.
Yes, but x264 should warn not fail. Look in the logs panel.

- Sometimes it says corrupt source. I haven't investigated those files yet, though.
When mencoder gives me "Error decoding frame" I cancel the recoding. Too much decoding errors will produce audio / video delay.

[Eretria-chan]

Try to remove the .manifest from bencos folder. Could be UI problems.
It doesn't work. Maybe there's a bug somewhere :)

Yes, but x264 should warn not fail. Look in the logs panel.
If width or height is not dividizable by 16 (only one), it spits out a warning. If both are not dividizable by 16, it fails. So I've noticed. The logs confirms this.

When mencoder gives me "Error decoding frame" I cancel the recoding. Too much decoding errors will produce audio / video delay.

So I take it, when it says "Source Corrupt," it means there are undecodable frames, ie a damaged source file?

[Sirber]

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=253#p253

In case you wanna play with bad sources :)

So I take it, when it says "Source Corrupt," it means there are undecodable frames, ie a damaged source file?

Yes. You can try to fix or use the newer bencos build. Be sure to check your output for audio / delay or other issues.

[Eretria-chan]

I have to say wow...
Bencos gives such perfect quality to high-quality sources at even such a low bitrate I'm impressed!
Now how about that DVD input and subtitles? ^_^
Looking forward to a release with any new features. Take your time!

[Sirber]

I didn,t have news about Sharktooth in a while. Code for subtuitles is half done :)

[Eretria-chan]

Question!
When encoding, does Bencos downsample 5.1 sound to stereo? If not, then 32 kbps would be far too little!
I also wondered about the profiles. Sharktooth made the non-anime profiles, right? I just wondered how they were aimed - for high bitrate or low bitrate encodes? I was testing at encoding a DVD movie, and found pretty sweet around 1000 kbps with few artifacts and no artifacts I could see at 2000. That's just initial testing, though.

enhAacPlusEnc.exe supports higher channel count from what I judged from its command line, but that would require higher bitrate. 16 knps per channel is the sweetspot, I think, since 32 kbps for stereo is good.

[Sirber]

IIRC I downsample to 2.0 :) Not sure about the quality though.
you can see what I do when I extract audio, in the logs panel.

[Eretria-chan]

I haven't looked at those logs, but it should be easy to add a feature for compressing multi-channel audio, would it not?

[Sirber]

I haven't looked at those logs, but it should be easy to add a feature for compressing multi-channel audio, would it not?
maybe I could look in mencoder logs for channel count and set enhaacplusenc... but it would be far in the todo list.
Proper subtitles support and DVD input would be more needed :)

[Eretria-chan]

If not otherwise, we could manually set the channel count, since this is just an argument passed to the encoder, no? Maybe you could add such a small thing for now until proper support can be added?

[killerhex]

hey does the audio encoder downmix automaticly 5.1->2.0chs

[Sirber]

hey does the audio encoder downmix automaticly 5.1->2.0chs
no, it doesn't

[Eretria-chan]

A manual channel count and higher bitrate for sound might be a good idea when encoding 5.1 or higher sound? For special encodes, so to speak.
It should be farily easy to add. No needing to log in logs for channel count and things like that (though that would be cool).

[Sirber]

so 2.0 source will be upgraded to 5.1? Best solution is by using source info no?

[killerhex]

has anyone ever needed to encode 7.1 to 2.0

[Eretria-chan]

so 2.0 source will be upgraded to 5.1? Best solution is by using source info no?

Sure it is, but as you don't have high priority on it right now, then a small workaround would be good, hm? Just an option among everything else, so my 5.1 source can be encoded properly.

...Terrific. Guess I'll have to encode the audio separately. Guess we'll see if Bencos can handle sources without audio.

[Sirber]

Do you have 5.1 samples I could test on?

[edit]

Since I convert to WAVE, not sure the encoders can handle files larger than 4GB...

[Eretria-chan]

Maybe... maybe not. Requires NTFS too, or there's a 4 GB limit. But if you want a sample I still have one.

[Sirber]

a sample would be great, then I'll make the encoder match the source for 5.1, 2.0 and 1.0

[Eretria-chan]

Sure, it's only 3 mins, but the whole file is 400 MB.
http://www.eluni.net/temp/PiratesoftheCaribbean2%20Track%201%20English%20DELAY%200ms.ac3
AC3, Dolby Digital, 5.1

[Sirber]

I could make a dropdown with: Auto, Mono, Stereo, 5.1

@Eretria-chan

Do you have a sample, like in mkv, with audio (5.1) and video. Bencos isn't great with audio-only sources. 10 sec would be good. Thanks! :D

[Eretria-chan]

Hmmm. It's in AVI. But I'll mux the audio and cut a 10 sec sample.
http://www.eluni.net/temp/Pirates%202%20Sample.avi
22 MB. 11 seconds.

[Sirber]

AVI is fine too. Thanks!

[Eretria-chan]

Sample uploaded. Go ahead, grab it.

[Sirber]

Thanks, I'll grab it when I get home.

[Eretria-chan]

Say, how about actual profiles for different sources that sets "Source" and bitrate, eventually 5.1, audio, etc?
For Anime sources, it would typically be Bitrate 318, 32 kbps sound, stereo and Source Anime / Toons.
Then there could be Movie at 500 kbps for video, 32 kbps for audio and source Movie.
And maybe DVD Rip which would set bitrate to about 1500 kbps, 32 kbps for audio and source Movie / Anime or something. 1500 should be about good for almost flawless DVD quality encodes.

Right now I'm testing to see what bitrate I could use for a typical movie source (non-DVD). Which means poor quality usually. 500 kbps seems good, going to try 400 and lower too.
1000 kbps for DVD quality is pretty good, but not entirely DVD quality, but still very close.

[Sirber]

I think I'll let the channel count a user setting, no auto. If the user set 5.1 and a 128kbps, and in the filelist I hit a stereo file, I don't think it'S right that bencos chose the new bitrate to use.

I think it's a good idea to link Source and video bitrate. Isn't anime set to 268? ;)

[Eretria-chan]

But if 5.1 is selected, Bencos must allow higher bitrates at least.
Yes. Yes, anime was originally 268, but I found that it sometimes smoothes out the intro of some movies a little too much. 318 produces almost perfect quality encodes, so... Well, I guess it's up to each and every one.

[Sirber]

Yes, 5.1 will have higher bitrates selection :)

[Eretria-chan]

Btw, maybe different levels of the profiles would be a good idea? Like, high, medium or low for anime content. Only, it would control the bitrate this time.
Obviously, when encoding DVDs, you need a lot more bitrate rather than encoding non-DVD sources, so I thought that might also be a good idea. Though a movie is a movie, depending on the quality of the source, different amounts of bitrate can be used to encode it, since all that bitrate would be a waste if the source is bad quality.

[Weltall]

I would like to know if its possible to add a funcfion to BENCOS that calculates the hh:mm:ss total of episodes dragged to it. I use windows media player 10 to get the total time and megui's bitrate calculator to bitrate. If BENCOS could at least give me this total time, I could install windows media player 11 (which didn't give me the time in seconds :P). I don't know if it's possible to add a calculator, but that would be great. Something like: add 12 episodes, total time 4 hours, 39 minutes and 36 seconds; desired final size (I would give this): 596.4MB (49.7MBx12). Bitrate that should be used: XXX. :'( :'( Wonderful!!!

It's very hard to implement this, like in megui? I just think that would help a lot!!!

How do you do Stéphane, use a standard bitrate for every anime?

[Sirber]

@Eretria-chan

The "Source" menu will already mod the bitrate, once done.

@Weltall

I could add a bitrate calculator (as in RA4/5). I think to create the thing you'd like would require more time than what's been already spent on bencos.

As for me I always use standard bitrates. I have no problem with some filesize differences.

[Weltall]

@Eretria-chan

The "Source" menu will already mod the bitrate, once done.

@Weltall

I could add a bitrate calculator (as in RA4/5). I think to create the thing you'd like would require more time than what's been already spent on bencos.

As for me I always use standard bitrates. I have no problem with some filesize differences.:eek:
RA5 calculator didn't give me right bitrate, thanks anyway. I think I'll stick with this process I'm familiar to :)

I have this size problems cause I always want to use a full dvd, I thought you could just do the same thing but you had a better solution to calculate.

I think the only thing missing now is an encode list recording after closing (maybe a save list like in RA5) and drag and drop :D

OK then, I'm just happy with it.

[Sirber]

wouldn't be hard to save the list.
will be hard for drag drop :)

[Weltall]

If I could save a list, I shouldn't need to drag and drop so much. The pain is have to select everything again after a system pane.

[Sirber]

If I could save a list, I shouldn't need to drag and drop so much. The pain is have to select everything again after a system pane.

Get a UPS and beer ;)

List save / load should take more than 10 lines. I'll try to make it this weekend.

[Eretria-chan]

I would like to know if its possible to add a funcfion to BENCOS that calculates the hh:mm:ss total of episodes dragged to it. I use windows media player 10 to get the total time and megui's bitrate calculator to bitrate. If BENCOS could at least give me this total time, I could install windows media player 11 (which didn't give me the time in seconds :P). I don't know if it's possible to add a calculator, but that would be great. Something like: add 12 episodes, total time 4 hours, 39 minutes and 36 seconds; desired final size (I would give this): 596.4MB (49.7MBx12). Bitrate that should be used: XXX. :'( :'( Wonderful!!!

It's very hard to implement this, like in megui? I just think that would help a lot!!!

How do you do Stéphane, use a standard bitrate for every anime?
Bitrate is easy to calculate, and aren't there lots of bitrate calc tools out there? Video bitrate / 8 * length (in seconds) + Audio bitrate / 8 * length (in seconds) = size of the final file (in KB).

:eek:
RA5 calculator didn't give me right bitrate, thanks anyway. I think I'll stick with this process I'm familiar to :)

I have this size problems cause I always want to use a full dvd, I thought you could just do the same thing but you had a better solution to calculate.

I think the only thing missing now is an encode list recording after closing (maybe a save list like in RA5) and drag and drop :D

OK then, I'm just happy with it.

Then why not just encode files until you have enough to fill a DVD?

@Sirber:
Maybe this is a silly question, but why use this FreePascal or whatever the name of the langauge was? You're moving from a weird language to another weirder.
C/C++ is standard for most apps, then VB and maybe Delphi, but why this new language? Wouldn't it be easier to use another, like the good old Delphi?

[Sirber]

FreePascal can compile and run on all major operating system, with no fancy coding. It's as easy as Delphi to code, since as Delphi, it is Pascal. Currently Bencos gets more successful encodes than RealAnime.

Also, before trying Lazarus, I tried C# (xAnime), mono (unsuccessful) and RealBasic.

Also, like all my project, whatever the language I use, I always end up being the only one coding it.

[Eretria-chan]

I sense the problem you see is that C/C++ may be cross-platform, but with a lot of it would require a lot of seperate coding for GUI on different platforms? And maybe it's just too complicated for you? / Or you just don't think it's easy enough to be worth the time?
But maybe and just maybe you might get more to join in? Don't know.
So where's Sharktooth? Hiding in the shadows?

What I'd really like right now is to save the encoding list (which you mentioned could be fixed easily? Terrific!) and less problems with those sources that aren't haven't the right Audio Frequency (< 44 HKz?).

It may just be me, but it seems you've just started over with new versions of your GUI from ground up with little changes.
Ah well, Bencos is doing its job, so I guess that's good. You're still doing a good job and there are those who like your software.

[Sirber]

I sense the problem you see is that C/C++ may be cross-platform, but with a lot of it would require a lot of seperate coding for GUI on different platforms? And maybe it's just too complicated for you? / Or you just don't think it's easy enough to be worth the time?
But maybe and just maybe you might get more to join in? Don't know.Tell me more about your GUI... Mine's been working after 5h of work. What about yours? Is C++ that worth? Did it run on linux?

So where's Sharktooth? Hiding in the shadows?Busy with RL?

http://www.getafirstlife.com/

What I'd really like right now is to save the encoding list (which you mentioned could be fixed easily? Terrific!) and less problems with those sources that aren't haven't the right Audio Frequency (< 44 HKz?).
Those will be fixed. When? When I get time.

It may just be me, but it seems you've just started over with new versions of your GUI from ground up with little changes.
Well, I think that no audio sync problems is the most wanted new feature, which sickened me in RA4/5. Since the project is not dead, more features will come.

I think you are ranting because I don't release builds fast enough. Better stop coz it is going nowhere but on my nerves.

[Eretria-chan]

Tell me more about your GUI... Mine's been working after 5h of work. What about yours? Is C++ that worth? Did it run on linux?
The sweetness lies in the code, not the workings of the program. To make advanced code and connect it together into a wonderful GUI is what's best for what I like.
5 hours? Probably takes longer since I do a lot of advanced stuff. Sure, I could get a working GUI in 5 hours if I wanted to.
And I don't have Linux and I don't use it, so I can't really comment on whether it'd work there. And I don't do builds for Linux either. I use Windows. But doesn't there exist... say, Wine?

Busy with RL?
Sharktooth joined your project, no? I was hinting at that - that's all. If everything turns out okay, I guess he'll be back when he gets the time.

Those will be fixed. When? When I get time.
Of course it will. Take your time.

Well, I think that no audio sync problems is the most wanted new feature, which sickened me in RA4/5. Since the project is not dead, more features will come.
I never had such issues... to my knowledge anyway.

I think you are ranting because I don't release builds fast enough. Better stop coz it is going nowhere but on my nerves.

No, not ranting. As I mentioned, BENCOS is working. Sure, fixing the audio could help me the encode the sources that fails to encode now, but there are always OTHER sources that can be encoded in the meantime.
Sure, to save the encoding list would be nice so you don't have to re-add everything all the time would be nice, but the program still works even without it.

Hey, prioritize and take your time to code the thing. Releases are exciting. That's all.

[Sirber]

Thanks for explaining, I guess I mis-interpreted your posts :)

[Eretria-chan]

No problem.
Remember that news about dev is also interesting, so that's another thing to keep one interested rather than a release :)
Real life is import, and so is being able to do other things, so you should do well to take your time. I know this lesson well, and I respect it.
I respect authors of programs. You will release when you think it's time :)

[Sirber]

I post dev news and stuff in my own forum, as well as bugs and problem I and users encounter.

[Eretria-chan]

You do indeed (and it's very interesting!), and I usually keep an eye on the board, but usually post stuff here.

[Weltall]

Bitrate is easy to calculate, and aren't there lots of bitrate calc tools out there? Video bitrate / 8 * length (in seconds) + Audio bitrate / 8 * length (in seconds) = size of the final file (in KB).Silly answer. The only bitrate calculator that worked fine for me was Megui's, wich always give some more kbps than I get manually (4-5), and it's always precisely right. And if I had to calculate manually, the purpose of batch and faster encoding would be lost, for me.

I want a calculator that I could drop 1.000.000.000 episodes to it, insert the total size I wanted and it'd give me the bitrate I had to use for every episodes, not for a single file and I don't want to calculate manually (45500GB*1024*1024*8)/lenght (in seconds, more stuff to calculate) - 32kbps for audio to know the video bitrate I have to use for 45500GB...


Then why not just encode files until you have enough to fill a DVD?Because it could be lasting 48MB of space in a DVD, and the last episode I wanted to put in it was 48.1MB... Btw, I want 90 episodes for each DVD (if I use the same bitrate for every single file, I didn't know how many I could burn), so I get the total bitrate of files and share bitrate properly, for each episodes, accordingly with its length.

Some animes have the same length for every episodes, some have very different durations. If there is 90 episodes of ~23-24 minutes, the quality will be better than 90 of ~24-25:30min. For ~30 minutes series, 55.8-9MB each - 80/DVD. The same for series, 149.1MB for 30 episodes.

That's my point: if I calculate bitrate for each file separately, long eps would be worst than short eps; if I use the same bitrate, I could lose a significant space in a DVD. I like to use every single byte in mines, I like to have full seasons of series/animes on them, I'm very precise with all this, and I had no problem until now...

[Eretria-chan]

Using constant bitrate will make sure you get good quality across all episodes. But if you really want to fit 90 eps on one DVD...

[Weltall]

Get a UPS and beer ;)

List save / load should take more than 10 lines. I'll try to make it this weekend.Well, I have an UPS, but I hate beer, it tastes disguting for me, I prefer wine and vodka :)
Using constant bitrate will make sure you get good quality across all episodes. But if you really want to fit 90 eps on one DVD...I do use constant bitrate. Like I said before, the only thing I do is to calculate bitrate for various episodes at once, assuring that 90 eps will fit in 4.37GB. The same bitrate is used for them, something between 268-255kbps, depending on the total length (if I mix some small episodes with big ones, bitrate will be balanced :)). In the end, some episodes are 51MB, some 47.6MB. The quality is always good.

[Eretria-chan]

Ah, I mis-understood! You're trying to mix long and short episodes so there will be 90 episodes on a DVD... pretty clever!
And you need a calc to know that X episodes of Y bitrate and Z episodes of A bitrate, etc, etc you must use to make sure you get 90 episodes and they take up just enough space to fill a DVD...

[Sirber]

for those not going on my forum, there's a new version out

www.detritus.qc.ca

[Spilt_milk]

does bencos work with vista 64

[Sirber]

yes, be sure to run as administrator though. Else try RealAnime 6 (nothing special to do).
They will run in 32bit though.

[sillKotscha]

diggin' out this thread :)

I'm playing around with flash for a while now. As it is the de facto webvideo standard at the moment I'm always looking around for some good encoding tools.

with AutoMen it is very easy to create flash videos even for novices but there is one disadvantage of AutoMen. It does rely on MEncoder and don't uses vfw. Even though the result is really impressive as MEncoder is only able to encode to FLV1 (Flash 6).

Than your RealAnime 6 came back into my mind and I remember you saying that maybe RealAnime will be the first free FLV batch encoder as you could integrate On2's VP6 VFW Codec - which is FLV4 (Flash 8) and uses VP62 Heightened Sharpness Profile.

I guess the last free (for personal use) version floating around is "VP6 vfw Codec 6.4.2.0". As sh0dan (http://forum.doom9.org/member.php?u=1701) said no one knows why it is no longer offerered at On2's website, it is still possible to find it :)

Speaking of sh0dan brings up his interesting blog articel (http://sh0dan.blogspot.com/2006/09/command-line-flash-8-flv-encoding.html). He's showing how to encode Flash 8 FLV via Command Line.

Well, that works very, very well quality wise as I have tried it out here (http://kotscha.de/VEncoding.html). But it is a bit tedious if you ask me... even though better than nothing, as it works.

As developement of RealAnime 6 is dead (?) do you think you could nonetheless spend some time integrating FLV4 (Flash 8) via On2's VP6 VFW Codec into BENCOS? If not you in person maybe one of the other developers of BENCOS?

I guess I would not be the only one looking forward seeing a FLV4 (Flash 8) encoder suite ;) all others cost $$ (Flix Pro for example)...

thanks in advance

/ sill

[Sharktooth]

VP6 VFW is not properly easy to configure since it stores the codec configuration in binary format into the registry.

[Sirber]

@sillKotscha

No one devs bencos or ra6 beside me. Sharktooth left long ago whitout news.
About VP6, I tried to find a way to modify the settings in the registry, but I don't have the struct and it's hard for nothing.

[Sharktooth]

yup. i got some troubles and im sorry i didnt post any news on your forum coz i lost the svn and forum accounts info. im also no longer on MSN... so...

[Sirber]

It's not like you can't reach me by email or PM here.
anyway. I'm almost out of the dev business...

[sillKotscha]

hey, jey, jey... no need for excuses or arguments... I just wanted to ask :)

in other words you don't think you will look forther into that issue, don't you?

too bad... but thanks for your answers

[Sirber]

bencos is most likely dead. The IDE works badly under vista and compiled bins don't even run (under vista).
ra6 I dev it once each 3 months, and I don't plan adding more codecs. x264 and AAC is enough for most tasks.

[sillKotscha]

x264 and AAC is enough for most tasks.

no, for most users ;)

[and-y]

@sirber's quote
"bencos is most likely dead..."
"ra6 I dev it once each 3 months"

>_<

lil bit sad to hear it T_T
but i appreciate all of what you give for us...
(thanx a lot, really help me to rip more smaller.)

and maybe I just can say just do what you really pleasant to do ^_^
(cause I think what you made from the bottom of your heart is more important.....)

[Veterinar]

bencos is most likely dead. The IDE works badly under vista and compiled bins don't even run (under vista).
ra6 I dev it once each 3 months, and I don't plan adding more codecs. x264 and AAC is enough for most tasks.
Then why don't you rip off the core with all the logic and without interface, wrap it up in nice package (able to compile) and publish it for download? Somebody might add different interface to it, maybe even commandline.

[JLe2k]

hey does anyone know what settings the anime profile on this had or even what settings on real anime 5/6 i think they're the same profile throughout the versions

[Mgz]

bencos is most likely dead. The IDE works badly under vista and compiled bins don't even run (under vista).
ra6 I dev it once each 3 months, and I don't plan adding more codecs. x264 and AAC is enough for most tasks.

I still use RA5 for batch transcoding FRAPS video into XVID

x264/AAC is out of question because I have an old version of Sony Vegas 4.0 :D (the new version is 500$ or something >.< )

[IceManZ]

Hi Sirber,

I give a try to RA 6 and I applied the update but RA crashed when MP4Box merged video / audio (=file not found).

If I keep the old version of MP4Box I get a "out of bounds" error.

Is it possible, when you got a few minutes, to check this.

Thanks a lot for all your hard work.

OS : Win XP.

[Sirber]

1) This is bencos thread
2) I'm not developing anything anymore.

for your issue, look if all files are there, add the missing ones and retry.

[Sirber]

Quick update:

* New mencoder, mplayer and mp4box bins
* Recompiled bencos against Lazarus 0.9.24 beta and QT4 framework
* Works under Vista with UAC deactivated (Didn't try with UAC)

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/files/bencos/BENCOS_20080324-QT4.exe

[DarkZell666]

I had to download libqt4intf.dll before the latest version you just posted could start :

http://svn.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/binaries/i386-win32/qt/libqt4intf.dll?revision=13686&root=lazarus&pathrev=13686

[Sirber]

@DarkZell666

Thanks!!, maybe I had it via Lazarus. Adding it to the setup!

[edit]

Added. Please redownload if needed :)

[krusty999]

I have a question can BENCOS suport constant quality encode (crf) like MEGUI??

Good work.

[Sirber]

I have a question can BENCOS suport constant quality encode (crf) like MEGUI??

Good work.

It could, but it doesn't. It only provide variable bitrate based encoding.

[krusty999]

Can add Constant Quality Encode? or tell me how can calculate the bitrate to do something like crf(quality 24) encoding.

Thanks.

[Sirber]

Can add Constant Quality Encode? or tell me how can calculate the bitrate to do something like crf(quality 24) encoding.

Thanks.

Sorry, I'm not adding features that I'm not using.
I can get you a copy of the sources if you want to patch it in.

[killerhex]

hey sirber are all your programs development dead

[Sirber]

hey sirber are all your programs development dead

yes! all of them!

[Mgz]

<-- still faithful user of RealAnime 5.0 @_@, I fraps a lot and RealAnime 1 click 2-pass XVID enconding no-bs approach saves me a lot of time and HD space :D. But still I want to upgrade to xvid 1.1.2 :-/ but development is dead, oh well.

so what GUI/program do Bencos/RA users use/move to anyway ?

[talz13]

<-- still faithful user of RealAnime 5.0 @_@, I fraps a lot and RealAnime 1 click 2-pass XVID enconding no-bs approach saves me a lot of time and HD space :D. But still I want to upgrade to xvid 1.1.2 :-/ but development is dead, oh well.

so what GUI/program do Bencos/RA users use/move to anyway ?

That's what I want to know! I still haven't found anything as easy to use as realanime for quick batch jobs. I've tried megui, straight up ffmpeg, and others, but realanime is still the best (when it doesn't bomb on audio, that is)

[Sirber]

BENCOS 2008-10-01

no major updates, code same as 2008-03-24.
just a codec update and a new mirror.


compiled with Lazarus 1.9.27 beta, FPC 2.2.3, win32
mplayer/mencoder svn-27323


Download:
Installer (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KE12QU2T) (exe, 10MB)
Sources (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MBGZ2DT4) (7z, 27MB)

[Veterinar]

Good day Sirber, you made very useful tool. Thank you.

I'm using RealAnime 6 from 25.09.07 with encoders update. It works very well, and still is unmatched by rival tools. I'm not saying it's bug free, mind you, but I did encode much files with it.

I hope your effort will not just get lost, and RA or Bencos will get their well deserved development. Or, if you decide to resign, at least knowledge will reincarnate in some successor program.

In the meantime, I put here some feedback.

Videos at 120 fps I'd prefer to downsample to 24 or 30 fps, but with RA6 I can't. Also there are videos at what seems to be variable fps 24/30, which are encoded by RA6 as 120 fps result.

Sometimes RA6 crashes at various points. I've noticed this is GUI crash. Encoders continue to work till the end of current job and next job does not start. The crash occurs when showing the window from system tray or when switching tabs. It seems like various actions in GUI "accumulate" chance to crash. The less I medde with it, the less it crashes. Keeping the most active first tab in background also helps.

That was some feedback. One more time, thank you for your tool.

[Sirber]

Hi Veterinar!

I'm glad you like the tools! Unfortunatly I haven't played with them for more than a year now. If you want to play with the code I'd suggest you grab bencos and lazarus (free pascal IDE) since bencos is more complete than RA6. I can help you a bit to get started but I won't code on those projects anymore.

Regards,

Sirber

[killerhex]

i can't use the mirror for the exe the source in the other hand i can access

[Sharktooth]

try those (BENCOS 2008-10-01):
installer (http://mirror05.x264.nl/Sharktooth/bencos/BENCOS_20081001.exe)
sources (http://mirror05.x264.nl/Sharktooth/bencos/bencos-dev.7z)

[Sirber]

Thanks Sharktooth! :D

[Sirber]

even with the latest Lazarus, bencos fails on Vista and Windows 7. I did a search installing older version and from the first one (BENCOS_20061223.exe) to BENCOS_20070430.exe, they all run perfectly. Starting BENCOS_20070505.exe, I get a popup "A reference was returned from the server." and it fails. I'll try to make a new project file and copy / paste the code. I think my project file is corrupt or have bad settings, but they look good to me. I compiled an empty project and it ran perfectly.

in the meantime you can grab the latest binaries here: http://sites.google.com/a/detritus.qc.ca/realanime/

stay tuned! :)

[Eretria-chan]

Just a maintenance update or a revival of the project, Sirber?

[Sirber]

Just a maintenance update or a revival of the project, Sirber?

for now just an update (and codec updates) so it can work on vista and w7 while I slowly code RealAnime 7. :)

[Eretria-chan]

Ah, RealAnime 7. I wonder what this version will contain then?
Nice to see RA back on track again. It has been far too long without it.
Btw, what will RA7 be coded in? Good ol' delphi?

[Sirber]

Nice to see RA back on track again. It has been far too long without it.

Indeed... it's been a long while :).. well if you don't count Bencos as a realanime ;)

Ah, RealAnime 7. I wonder what this version will contain then?

It is based on a new toolchain, using direct264 (directshow enabled x264), a directshow-enabled aac encoder and mp4box. ffshow is recommended to be used as a decoder and for filtering. The firsts release will be 32bit, but I'll make a 64bit version as soon as direct264 64bit builds will be avalible. The interface should be simpler and look like:

http://6862951801603747047-a-detritus-qc-ca-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/detritus.qc.ca/realanime/Home/ra7_20091001.jpg?attachauth=ANoY7crjaIz_giKYeTi3Z5ismxmAw8Prae5d_WTMuQHH9Sw6Fcsv4AK8MVfW_zhGjhvZ2DbCFrd9HSFsOeAiXUx78wZ9E1susWVCXKQW2m1r0c0guyrdxNPOMsP-8duwApuyBw63R0SuMnnxarRSh3TP4o6BuGrZ_J5zEZx4NBk-WlC3ez5bD8CzdqZOsPR8-JbR5XDELMSJUcqiqLYpJaEpo0Bnd-n3Qg%3D%3D&attredirects=0


Btw, what will RA7 be coded in? Good ol' delphi?

I'm regiving a try with csharp (.NET 3.5). In 2005-6 I tryed with xAnime, to learn the language, but I didn't like it and launhcing process and managing them was hellish.

[Eretria-chan]

It is based on a new toolchain, using direct264 (directshow enabled x264), a directshow-enabled aac encoder and mp4box. ffshow is recommended to be used as a decoder and for filtering. The firsts release will be 32bit, but I'll make a 64bit version as soon as direct264 64bit builds will be avalible. The interface should be simpler and look like:
Sounds very nice.
Also very nice to see HD settings. HD is getting common these days, and I will admit - I always download the 720p encodes. They always look better.

I'm regiving a try with csharp (.NET 3.5). In 2005-6 I tryed with xAnime, to learn the language, but I didn't like it and launhcing process and managing them was hellish.
Ah, Microsoft's devil language again. Cannot say I like it, but meh. But as long as it works...
Still, it should be interesting to see if you can find some settings to further compress downloaded HD encodes today...

[Sirber]

Ah, Microsoft's devil language again. Cannot say I like it, but meh. But as long as it works...

New language to learn, always good :)
Delphi 7 and later versions are a pain to use on W7 (or vista) because they are too old.

Still, it should be interesting to see if you can find some settings to further compress downloaded HD encodes today...

I'll have to ask help for the settings, I'm really rusty with those, even for SD :)

[anj]

I got error # 1

Writing of 3GPP file failed.
What's solution??

[Sirber]

I got error # 1

Writing of 3GPP file failed.
What's solution??

Everything you need to know is right here: link (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html)

[PatlaborForce]

Ah, Microsoft's devil language again. Cannot say I like it, but meh. But as long as it works...

And yet the two languages had their design lead by the same person. Why is his work now a "devil language" just cause he works for Microsoft? Secondly, many parts of the ECMA standard were designed by people who didn't even work for Microsoft (HP, Intel, etc).

[Eretria-chan]

New language to learn, always good :)
I would not call it that...

Delphi 7 and later versions are a pain to use on W7 (or vista) because they are too old.
Boo to Delphi, yay to modern programming languages ^_^

I'll have to ask help for the settings, I'm really rusty with those, even for SD :)
Ah, then hopefully Sharktooth's settings will work well, then.

And yet the two languages were designed by the same person. Why is his work now a "devil language" just cause he works for Microsoft? Secondly, many parts of the ECMA standard were designed by people who didn't even work for Microsoft (HP, Intel, etc).
Who?
I know it is a standardized language, too, but I call it Microsoft's devil language because it is pretty much what Microsoft wants everyone to use and it is what you hear and see all about today. Always C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#.
And besides, it is all about the language, and the creators. IOW, I would not care even if Bjarne himself was involved in C#. It would still be a devil language in my eyes.

[Sirber]

And yet the two languages had their design lead by the same person. Why is his work now a "devil language" just cause he works for Microsoft? Secondly, many parts of the ECMA standard were designed by people who didn't even work for Microsoft (HP, Intel, etc).

no flamewar please :)


Boo to Delphi, yay to modern programming languages ^_^


like c#? ;p

I know it is a standardized language, too, but I call it Microsoft's devil language because it is pretty much what Microsoft wants everyone to use and it is what you hear and see all about today. Always C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#, C#.
And besides, it is all about the language, and the creators. IOW, I would not care even if Bjarne himself was involved in C#. It would still be a devil language in my eyes.

At least I'm not trying Java ;)

[Eretria-chan]

like c#? ;p
More like C++ :D

At least I'm not trying Java ;)
And I applaud you for that. Another devil language me thinks :D

[Sirber]

More like C++ :D
Isn't that older than VB6? ;)

[Eretria-chan]

You speak of the past. It has received revisions, with the newest one just around the corner.
Besides, it works just fine and great on Windows 7 ;)

[Atak_Snajpera]

Delphi 7 and later versions are a pain to use on W7 (or vista) because they are too old.
not true! I have been using delphi 7 on Windows 7 without any problems! Good advice. Do not install delphi in protected folders (Program Files) instead use Roaming folder.

[Eretria-chan]

Is that related to UAC? If so, then turn it off? I always do.

[DarkZell666]

More like C++ :D


And I applaud you for that. Another devil language me thinks :D

lol, being a Java/J2EE coder myself after having done some .NET for a while, I wouldn't say that. It's just as flexible and readable as .NET or Delphi or any object-orientated language for that matter. Java uses a VM, .NET uses assemblies, but it's the same result : you install xxx Mb of runtime stuff and use N APIs that saves you ZZ days of coding. Unmaintainable code and poor performance is most likely a PEBCAK issue, and isn't related to the platform itself.

One exception to this is the garbage collector, which I don't like. It saves ZZZ hours coding all the "free(<insert_object_here>)" lines in the right places (which doesn't exist at all in java), but tends to hide the memory allocation problems to novice developers.

[Eretria-chan]

Ah, but I am not discussing the library and wealth of functionality available for you. The only thing about it that I do not like is that it is too slow. Other than that, it is great.
However, I am discussing the language itself. This is where the dislike for any dotNet and Java comes in. What do they all have in common? They are slow as heck. Plus they are sort of languages that tries to baby-sit you, which I do not like.

[DarkZell666]

Ah, but I am not discussing the library and wealth of functionality available for you. The only thing about it that I do not like is that it is too slow. Other than that, it is great.
However, I am discussing the language itself. This is where the dislike for any dotNet and Java comes in. What do they all have in common? They are slow as heck. Plus they are sort of languages that tries to baby-sit you, which I do not like.

You don't need millisecond reactivity for a UI or simple business apps, which makes Java or .NET perfectly useable candidates for those tasks. However, if by slow as heck you mean "unusable for writing a h.264 encoder that actually takes less than a day to encode 10 frames" then yeah, you're probably right ;)

[Eretria-chan]

Keep in mind that this is subjective, but almost all dotNet apps I see are slow.
Slow to start.
Even slow when you push a button.
I do most certainly not approve.
So well... yes, it is subjective, as I have said, but I have no love for such languages. They are always slow in my opinion, whatever they do.

[Sirber]

Keep in mind that this is subjective, but almost all dotNet apps I see are slow.
Slow to start.
Even slow when you push a button.
I do most certainly not approve.
So well... yes, it is subjective, as I have said, but I have no love for such languages. They are always slow in my opinion, whatever they do.

So far RealAnime 7 (.NET 3.5, x64) starts in less than 2 sec and runs realtime, but yet is does nothing except some small UI functions :).

[PatlaborForce]

More like C++ :D

Oh, you mean the language that something bloated and slow like OOo is written in? Secondly, it's funny that people now going on and on about how C++ is so awesome and fast and sleek and yet in the early 90s the same criticisms lodged against Java and now .NET were also lodged against C++. It was so slow, so bloated, etc etc.

Keep in mind that this is subjective, but almost all dotNet apps I see are slow.
Slow to start.
Even slow when you push a button.
I do most certainly not approve.

Then someone did something majorly wrong when writing it. Any of the .NET apps we have written where I work or the ones I've written myself have never had this issue.

So well... yes, it is subjective, as I have said, but I have no love for such languages. They are always slow in my opinion, whatever they do.

It's called observer bias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_bias). Your mind has already decided that the .NET app is slow so no matter what the actual speed is, you always see it as slow.

[Eretria-chan]

So far RealAnime 7 (.NET 3.5, x64) starts in less than 2 sec and runs realtime, but yet is does nothing except some small UI functions :).
Ah, good news, so far. Let us hope it stays that way when it is functional.

Oh, you mean the language that something bloated and slow like OOo is written in?
Slow? Hardly. You need really good proof to back that point up.
Bloated? I do not think so. Most of the language features exist for a reason. Is there a lot of stuff? Yes. Do they have a use? Yes. So you tell me. Is it bloated? I like to see it as it has a lot of features for different purposes. Hardly bloated.

It's called observer bias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_bias). Your mind has already decided that the .NET app is slow so no matter what the actual speed is, you always see it as slow.
I have both programmed in dotNet and used a-many dotNet apps, so you can hardly say I am not fit to judge due to no experience.

[PatlaborForce]

Slow? Hardly. You need really good proof to back that point up.

Yep, it's both slower on cold start and warm start then almost every version of office. If you want benchmarks see here (http://www.oooninja.com/2008/07/benchmarking-microsoft-word-95-2007.html) for Office startup times and here (http://www.oooninja.com/2009/03/multiplatform-benchmark-30.html) for OOo startup times. It is also notorious for being slower to open files then Office. In fact for either 3.0 or 3.1 one of the major bugs related to opening files was fixed.

Bloated? I do not think so.

So that's why it's bigger than my Office 2003 install? Because it's not bloated?

Most of the language features exist for a reason. Is there a lot of stuff? Yes. Do they have a use? Yes. So you tell me. Is it bloated? I like to see it as it has a lot of features for different purposes. Hardly bloated.

Considering that Office has more features and has a smaller install size then my current OOo 3.1 install I'd say yes it is bloated.

[PatlaborForce]

I have both programmed in dotNet and used a-many dotNet apps, so you can hardly say I am not fit to judge due to no experience.

No, but your opinion is tainted by a clear bias. If your .NET apps are lagging just by hitting a button then you are doing something clearly wrong.

[Eretria-chan]

Seriously, you are comparing Office to dotNet? What kind of comparison is that?!
Office is bloated. Pretty much all of Microsoft's applications are.
Seriously. You need to compare the languages directly, not via some applications.

And if dotNet is truly faster than C++, then I dare you to write x264 in it.
But perhaps we should stop for a moment. I would love to argue with your further, but as not to pollute the thread, I would stop until it gets split or simply start a new topic.

[PatlaborForce]

Seriously, you are comparing Office to dotNet? What kind of comparison is that?!

No, I was comparing Office to that bloated, slow pig OOo.

Office is bloated. Pretty much all of Microsoft's applications are.

And OOo is even more bloated!

Seriously. You need to compare the languages directly, not via some applications.

I wasn't doing any sort of language comparison. You claimed OOo wasn't slow and yet I provided benchmarks that show on startup times and load document times it is slower than any version of Office dating back to at least Word 95.

And if dotNet is truly faster than C++, then I dare you to write x264 in it.

Never made that claim. So I don't need or want to do such a thing. On the other hand, the speed difference between a .NET GUI and something written say in MFC is going to be marginally different to the point that it's imperceptable. If you're seeing huge lags in a .NET GUI then someone is doing it wrong.

[Eretria-chan]

I will not argue with you further until such time that this is split from this topic, or if this does not happen, then never.

[Sirber]

yeah back on topic guys :)

[Sirber]

Great news everybody! I successfully compiled a version that runs on Vista and Windows 7 (32bit and 64bit). Expect a release in 48h. Still have some cleaning to do and external binaries to update. :D

[edit]

I cannot test this since I'm at work, but here's a test build: [broken, removed]

[Sirber]

erm... I get some kind of errors..

C:\Program Files (x86)\Bencos\mencoder.exe "**********************.avi"
-mc 0 -of rawvideo -ovc x264 -oac pcm -o C:\Users\sirber\AppData\Local\Temp/bencos/video.264 -x264encopts
deblock=1,1:bframes=5:frameref=5:threads=auto:b_pyramid:nofast_pskip:nopsnr:bitrate=268:pass=1:turbo=2 -vf harddup

MEncoder Sherpya-SVN-r30075-4.2.5 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
Option x264encopts: Bad argument b_pyramid=(null)
success: format: 0 data: 0x0 - 0xaa00000
AVI file format detected.
AVI: ODML: Building ODML index (2 superindexchunks).
VIDEO: [H264] 848x480 24bpp 29.970 fps 820.0 kbps (100.1 kbyte/s)
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/8.33% (ratio: 16000->192000)
Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3)
==========================================================================
Opening video filter: [expand osd=1]
Expand: -1 x -1, -1 ; -1, osd: 1, aspect: 0.000000, round: 1
Opening video filter: [harddup]
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Unsupported PixelFormat -1
Selected video codec: [ffh264] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264)
==========================================================================
Movie-Aspect is 1.77:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver.

Exiting...

[edit]

b_pyramid
b_pyramid has changed in recent x264 versions and it now accepts
options so you can choose between b_pyramid=none, b_pyramid=strict and
b_pyramid=normal

gonan fix that...

Cannot initialize video driver

anyone has an idea?

[Sirber]

fixed the "b_pyramid=normal", works now. gonnna post a new build later tonight!

[edit]

Option x264encopts: Unknown suboption bime
Option x264encopts: Unknown suboption brdo

:(

[Eretria-chan]

Sweet and not so sweet :)
But I know you'll fix it at some point in time :p I have faith in you.

[Sirber]

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1357514#post1357514

settings are fixed. I'm gonna make a successful encode before posting anything new :P
so far so good... 60 FPS at first pass, 9fps at second pass on my old AMD64 3800+ X2. :)

[Sirber]

looks good! :D
gonna make a NSIS tomorrow :)

[Sirber]

the whole process works fine. download link on first post! :)

[edit]

added x86 build and sources

[Eretria-chan]

So... considered adding options for compressing HD anime videos? They are getting pretty common, after all.
And another thought - why are you putting the installer inside a 7z archive when the compression gained is negligible?

[Sirber]

So... considered adding options for compressing HD anime videos? They are getting pretty common, after all.

I considered it for RealAnime 7, but I can update the UI of Bencos for it too. I read too that there are "settings presets" builtin in x264, I might switch for them too. For HD stuff I might just add 100kbps. I'm open to settings suggestions too :)

And another thought - why are you putting the installer inside a 7z archive when the compression gained is negligible?

Google Sites don't allow .exe uploads :(

[Sirber]

Todo:

* Test DVD input (or remove it, if it doesn't work) (Sharktooth old code)
* Add HD settings
* Revalidate x264 settings (use x264 builtin presets and source type?)
* Simplify settings selection (UI)
* Smoother SysTray events, if possible
* Tooltip on settings and options
* Use NeroEnc instead of old enhAacPlusEnc (2007)
* Bitrate Calculator

Done:
* Remove from the UI unworking elements (aka subtitles)
* Make Linux build

any ideas / comments?

[Eretria-chan]

Maybe some more tooltips on settings or a guide? What does PP and Fix Levels do?
I assume Frame is deinterlacing?

Also, though I don't have anything to encode right now, I will definitely have in the future, and when I do, having the ability to change fps would be handy.
I honestly don't know much about the settings. I would go with whatever MeGUI / Sharktooth uses, since that's usually optimal settings.
Is preview possible too?

Otherwise, the program starts quickly, looks okay. Good job I think.

[Sirber]

Maybe some more tooltips on settings or a guide? What does PP and Fix Levels do?
I assume Frame is deinterlacing?

Great idea! I'll relook at the documentation and add tooltips.

having the ability to change fps would be handy.

convert or force?

I honestly don't know much about the settings. I would go with whatever MeGUI / Sharktooth uses, since that's usually optimal settings.

ok

Is preview possible too?

like settings on a small cut of the source?

Otherwise, the program starts quickly, looks okay. Good job I think.

:)

[Eretria-chan]

convert or force?
Convert, I think. I have some captured movies which looks totally smooth at around 10 fps, so by changing the fps to 10 without destroying the actual capture contents or animation, I can lower the bitrate substantially. So that's what I'm after... yeah.
I don't know which of those it is exactly, but I know there's an option in the megui's avisynth creator that I always use to get perfect results :p

like settings on a small cut of the source?
Perhaps there are two previews? One live preview with all the filters and stuff, and one preview where it encodes a small portion of the file and then plays it?
I think both could be useful.

[nakTT]

sure. It doesn't have the delay problem RA4 and bellow had.
Be sure to set the right FPS in the Settings tab.
Forgive me for asking this. I have yet to use this software but i really like to know whether or not I can use nero aac with this software? And how do I install it on linux e.g: Ubuntu or Mint.

:thanks:

[Sirber]

but i really like to know whether or not I can use nero aac with this software?

It currently uses :
Enhanced aacPlus 3GPP Floating Point Reference Encoder

Source timestamp Wed Jan 3 10:01:12 2007
Build Jan 3 2007, 10:01:18

wici is old indeed. Next build will have nero acc (latest).

And how do I install it on linux e.g: Ubuntu or Mint.

Currently there is no Linux build. It is possible to compile it using Lazarus (linux version) then set the correct path to the different encoders. I don't have linux currently installed, but I'll add this to the todo list.

[nakTT]

wici is old indeed. Next build will have nero acc (latest).
Very glad to hear that. And thanks for your fast reply.

Currently there is no Linux build. It is possible to compile it using Lazarus (linux version) then set the correct path to the different encoders. I don't have linux currently installed, but I'll add this to the todo list.
Looking forward to try the linux version to see if the speed increase for x264 (plus nero for audio) encoding for my video worth the migration to linux (from Vista Business 64bit).

:thanks:

[Sirber]

Looking forward to try the linux version to see if the speed increase for x264 (plus nero for audio) encoding for my video worth the migration to linux (from Vista Business 64bit).

Does nero encoder works under linux?
All you need is mencoder, mplayer, neroenc, mp4box and faac.

[nakTT]

Does nero encoder works under linux?
All you need is mencoder, mplayer, neroenc, mp4box and faac.
Forgive me for my english. What I meant is "neroAacEnc.exe". Can it be somehow made working on linux too? Or "neroenc" is the same thing as "neroAacEnc.exe"? Thanks.

:thanks:

[Sirber]

Forgive me for my english. What I meant is "neroAacEnc.exe". Can it be somehow made working on linux too? Or "neroenc" is the same thing as "neroAacEnc.exe"? Thanks.

Sorry I didn't have the right filename (I'm at work), yeah it's the same "neroAacEnc.exe".

[nurbs]

Does nero encoder works under linux?
Yes, they distribute linux and windows versions of their encoder and other tools in the same zip file.

[Sirber]

Yes, they distribute linux and windows versions of their encoder and other tools in the same zip file.

Excellent! I'll modify the code to be able to use encoders outside the path of bencos.exe so it can work better on linux... or poeple can "ln -s" the required software inside bencos's folder.

bencos also need mkvmerge :)

[Sirber]

anyone would be interrested in Theora/Vorbis support?

[nakTT]

That would be good to have.

:thanks:

[ckmox]

hi i got audio problems
this is the source file im trying to encode with the new bencos (2009-12-29)
http://ifile.it/vj8kfw1

if i set the audio codec to AAC LC it will finish the encode until muxing but no sound at all when i play it the audio bitrate i choose is 64 kbps
here is the log for it


C:\Program Files\Bencos\mkv\mkvmerge.exe "C:\DOCUME~1\ios\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/tempout.mp4" -o "c:\[Mendoi-Conclave]_Mobile_Suit_Gundam_00_S2_-_Trailer_2_[F0AA976D].mkv"

mkvmerge v2.0.2 ('You're My Flame') built on Feb 21 2007 23:40:43
'C:\DOCUME~1\ios\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/tempout.mp4': Using the Quicktime/MP4 demultiplexer.
Track 1 of 'C:\DOCUME~1\ios\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/tempout.mp4': Extracted the aspect ratio information from the MPEG-4 layer 10 (AVC) video data and set the display dimensions to 597/336.
'C:\DOCUME~1\ios\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/tempout.mp4' track 1: Using the MPEG-4 part 10 (AVC) video output module.
'C:\DOCUME~1\ios\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/tempout.mp4' track 2: Using the AAC output module.
The file 'c:\[Mendoi-Conclave]_Mobile_Suit_Gundam_00_S2_-_Trailer_2_[F0AA976D].mkv' has been opened for writing.
progress: 0%
progress: 100%

The cue entries (the index) are being written...
Muxing took 0 seconds.


but if i set it to AAC HE or AAC HE+PS it will say "Writing of 3GPP file failed." the audio bitrate i choose is 32 kbps
and here is the log

C:\Program Files\Bencos\enhAacPlusEnc.exe "C:\DOCUME~1\ios\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/audio.wav" "C:\DOCUME~1\ios\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/audio.mp4" --cbr 48000 --disable-ps


*************************************************************
* Enhanced aacPlus 3GPP Floating Point Reference Encoder
*
* Source timestamp Wed Jan 3 10:01:12 2007
* Build Jan 3 2007, 10:01:18
*************************************************************

input file C:\DOCUME~1\ios\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/audio.wav:
sr = 48000, nc = 2

output file C:\DOCUME~1\ios\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/audio.mp4:
br = 48000 sr-OUT = 48000 nc-OUT = 2


Writing of 3GPP file failed.


and can you set the Psy RDO to 0.4 but not 0 because value 1.0 outputs a little grainy video quality imo the value 0.4 i think is enough for removing blocks and gives a little sharp picture

and yeah i hope to see vorbis support for audio too that will be great with lowest value setting of 40 kbps if possible

and thanks for reviving BENCOS its a great tool more power to you

[Eretria-chan]

So, what are your plans for BENCOS? What are you aiming for it to be?
An all-in-one purpose tool for batch encoding?
A simple batch encoding tool?

I was wondering if you are aiming to replace MeGUI, and whether I should use BENCOS for all my encoding needs, or just for the simpler ones.

[nakTT]

So, what are your plans for BENCOS? What are you aiming for it to be?
An all-in-one purpose tool for batch encoding?
A simple batch encoding tool?

I was wondering if you are aiming to replace MeGUI, and whether I should use BENCOS for all my encoding needs, or just for the simpler ones.
IMHO it would be great if BENCOS provide extensive x264 option on GUI (like MeGUI) because as of now AFAIK there are no MeGUI for Linux. So it would be great if BENCOS can become some kind of MeGUI for Linux.

:thanks:

[Sirber]

hi i got audio problems
this is the source file im trying to encode with the new bencos (2009-12-29)

"c:\[Mendoi-Conclave]_Mobile_Suit_Gundam_00_S2_-_Trailer_2_[F0AA976D].mkv"

I got similar problems with MKV and AAC. mplayer doesn't extract the audio, so the audio encoder fails (error #-1 with HE-AAC).

most probably a mplayer error :(

So, what are your plans for BENCOS? What are you aiming for it to be?
An all-in-one purpose tool for batch encoding?
A simple batch encoding tool?

I was wondering if you are aiming to replace MeGUI, and whether I should use BENCOS for all my encoding needs, or just for the simpler ones.

I'm aiming for a simple recoding tool, not a DVD solution. There's already many excellent tool for DVD recoding.

[Eretria-chan]

Hmm. Then how about lossless encoding? Always a useful tool when editing video.
An option whether or not to encode video/audio might also be useful.

[Sirber]

Hmm. Then how about lossless encoding? Always a useful tool when editing video.
An option whether or not to encode video/audio might also be useful.

why not edit the source prior encoding?

[ckmox]

I got similar problems with MKV and AAC. mplayer doesn't extract the audio, so the audio encoder fails (error #-1 with HE-AAC).

most probably a mplayer error :(


aw so can you add vorbis audio support i think mencoder vorbis will be a good replacement for AAC in times of audio encoding error occurs

:thanks:

[Eretria-chan]

why not edit the source prior encoding?

Editing is difficult with sources with B-frames, hence the need for lossless encodes before editing.
Especially if you use a front-end such as Avidemux to cut and paste video.

[Sirber]

aw so can you add vorbis audio support i think mencoder vorbis will be a good replacement for AAC in times of audio encoding error occurs

:thanks:

errors happen when audio is decoded from the source, and since there's nothing to encode, encoding fails too ;)

[Sirber]

:D :D :D :D

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/4254942750_7cfdf2d636_o.jpg

running in Ubuntu 9.10 (amd64) with absolutly no code change from the win32 version!

[YouDontKnowMe]

nice thing you are on track again :P

well I have a favour to ask... could you add "encode by filesize" so I dont have to specify a bitrate but rather a filesize and bencos calculates it automatically? would this be to much to ask for?

[Sirber]

well I have a favour to ask... could you add "encode by filesize" so I dont have to specify a bitrate but rather a filesize and bencos calculates it automatically? would this be to much to ask for?

adding on the todo

[ckmox]

@Sirber
are you sure the decoding of audio fails on mplayer or maybe the programming or coding about it has to be updated or checked for glitches because i talked to a casual encoder and a linux user that mplayer(decoder) and mencoder(encoder) successfully encoded the file example i presented to you

and can i suggest to have a slider on resizing the video resolution with rounding to the nearest multiple of 16 just like the slider seen on the "filter -> resize" of avidemux

thanks again

[Sirber]

are you sure the decoding of audio fails on mplayer or maybe the programming or coding about it has to be updated or checked for glitches because i talked to a casual encoder and a linux user that mplayer(decoder) and mencoder(encoder) successfully encoded the file example i presented to you

the mkv sampled that failed on my side failed using the commandline directly too. It seems to play well, but it fails if you instruct mplayer to dump the wave:

mplayer.exe input.mkv -ao pcm:waveheader:fast:file="%7%out.wav" -vo null -vc null -af channels=2


and can i suggest to have a slider on resizing the video resolution with rounding to the nearest multiple of 16 just like the slider seen on the "filter -> resize" of avidemux

since the input list can have multiple resolution, I cannot make something that is calculated from the source.

[ckmox]

the mkv sampled that failed on my side failed using the commandline directly too. It seems to play well, but it fails if you instruct mplayer to dump the wave:

mplayer.exe input.mkv -ao pcm:waveheader:fast:file="%7%out.wav" -vo null -vc null -af channels=2



since the input list can have multiple resolution, I cannot make something that is calculated from the source.

i dont have knowledge about linux command line options but this is what he used and what he thinks is the possible problem


This is what I'm using the $x is variable for input file ...
mplayer -ao pcm:file=audio.wav -vo null -vc none "$x"
Maybe it's the chanels=2 or the :fast option ?

I also add the filter
mplayer -af resample=48000:0:0 -ao pcm:waveheader:file=blank2.wav -vo null -vc none "$x"
When I input the 3 sec pic intro into my command , no problems with it whatsoever...

Maybe the channel=2 fails when input is a 1 channel audio ? Dunno about your sample but I had nor problems with encoding any files, beside some old OGMs that had to be first mixed into mkv to make them work. Odd bug that was, but certainly I have no problems with encoding any new mkvs etc. and that's the thing bencos fails on I guess ...

This might also be a windows related problem though I personally doubt it :)


and about the slider resolution yeah your right hehe didnt think about that

:thanks:

[steban1990]

Sry for the nuisance, but im having some trouble with encoding a fille.

this is what the log gives

Movie-Aspect is 1.33:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2 SSE3 Cache64
x264 [error]: MB-tree doesn't support different resolution than 1st pass (640x480 vs 640x360)
x264_encoder_open failed.
FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver. :rolleyes:

Exiting...

what could it be, can you give any advice, thanks in advance.

[Sirber]

(640x480 vs 640x360)

Did you ask for resizing or cropping?

[steban1990]

Did you ask for resizing or cropping?

Sry for my litle knowledge with these issues, since i used to encode with minicoder but seem like every encoder that i have been trying to this date are struggling to encode this file, dunno what you mean with the resizing or cropping sry. ::rolleyes:

Btw here are the file specs.
file size around 600 mb
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4025/asasx.jpg

Hope i´ve been of help.

[Sirber]

Sry for my litle knowledge to these issues, since i used to encode with minicoder but seem like every encoder that i have tried to this date are struggling to encode the file, i would like you to explain that better, sry for the nuisance of this newbie. ::rolleyes:

did you use filtering from the "Settings" tab, "Filtering" section?
Because the video size isn't the same on the first pass and the second pass, could be a Bencos bug.

http://i48.tinypic.com/2zp5loy.jpg

[ckmox]

just a suggestion again about the resize resolution option can you do something like this
http://i47.tinypic.com/21n1wtx.jpg
its from MeGUI a checkbox for suggest resolution is available so you just have to input a width

[Fidelix]

Man, this is the BEST PROJECT i have ever seen here or anywhere else, that is related to encoding GUI's.

Please, for the world's sake, keep going with your project, there aint decent UI's like Realanime/Bencos out there!

[Sirber]

Thank you! :D

[Fidelix]

Hey Sirber, i'm getting the same error with all files being encoded by bencos.
I'm sorry if its the wrong way of reporting this, i didnt know where else to post. Anyway, if this doesnt help i'll delete my message.

This is my bencos config/status screen.
http://www.anbient.net/i/img/bencosbug.jpg

This is Benco's log:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Bencos\enhAacPlusEnc.exe "C:\Users\Fidelix\AppData\Local\Temp/bencos/audio.wav" "C:\Users\Fidelix\AppData\Local\Temp/bencos/audio.mp4" --cbr 48000 --disable-ps


*************************************************************
* Enhanced aacPlus 3GPP Floating Point Reference Encoder
*
* Source timestamp Wed Jan 3 10:01:12 2007
* Build Jan 3 2007, 10:01:18
*************************************************************

input file C:\Users\Fidelix\AppData\Local\Temp/bencos/audio.wav:
sr = 48000, nc = 2

output file C:\Users\Fidelix\AppData\Local\Temp/bencos/audio.mp4:
br = 48000 sr-OUT = 48000 nc-OUT = 2


Writing of 3GPP file failed.


This is the source file info:
K:\Downz\[Kuroi Raws] Spice and Wolf II OVA (DVD 1280x720 H264 AAC 2ch) [A53B4F8E].mkv
General
Complete name : K:\Downz\[Kuroi Raws] Spice and Wolf II OVA (DVD 1280x720 H264 AAC 2ch) [A53B4F8E].mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 295 MiB
Duration : 22mn 20s
Overall bit rate : 1 845 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2009-07-16 06:05:37
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.1.0 ('Another Place To Fall') built on Aug 19 2007 13:40:07
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1
Video #1
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 10 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@4.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 22mn 19s
Nominal bit rate : 1 600 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.072
Writing library : x264 core 68 r1179M 96e2229
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=10 / deblock=1:1:1 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy_rd=0.6:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=6 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=1600 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=17500 / vbv_bufsize=14000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=0
Language : Japanese
Audio #2
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : No
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 22mn 20s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Language : Japanese

I'm using Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
Processor = Intel Q8200 Woodstock

This seems to be some adaptability problem in the aac encoder with different file formats...

Anyway, for now i'll do my things with Realanime, but i'm really eager to use bencos ^^

[Sirber]

Format : AAC

the current build of mplayer used in bencos has issues with MKV/AAC. You can try to upgrade mplayer:


MPlayer for Win32 by sherpya (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mplayer-win32/files/MPlayer%20and%20MEncoder/revision%2030369)

I'd suggest de "rtm" build. Just extract into Bencos installation folder, overwriting the existing files, then retry the encoding. Please tell me if it fixes the issue. Thanks!

[edit]

I made a release (for testing): download (https://sites.google.com/a/detritus.qc.ca/software/projects/bencos/BENCOS_20100130.7z?attredirects=0&d=1)
Updated mencoder/mplayer to revision 30369. The UI has changed a bit too to display better
on linux.

[Sirber]

nah it still fails :(

[edit]

mplayer.exe -ao pcm:file=out.wav -vo null test.mp4
seems to work, but is much more slower

mplayer.exe -ao pcm:file=out.wav -vo null -vc null test.mp4"
the code that bencos currently use. fails with:
"Too many audio packets in the buffer"

[Sirber]

made an update to the code named "Slow audio extraction". Only enable if the source is using AAC audio, because it's terribly slower.

download (https://sites.google.com/a/detritus.qc.ca/software/projects/bencos/BENCOS_20100130.7z?attredirects=0&d=1)

[Sirber]

@Fidelix

Your first video (1280x720.mkv) failed the "video encoding". Can you post the mencoder logs?

[Fidelix]

@Fidelix

Your first video (1280x720.mkv) failed the "video encoding". Can you post the mencoder logs?

The error happened because i canceled the process.
I tried it again (1280x720) and it only failed on the audio. Same thing.

Well, i realized the UI "feels" a little different from realanime, i guess thats because your programming approach regarding the interface has changed, so i cant tell if it would be difficult to add a really nice feature RealAnime had, which is Drag n' Drop.

Anyway, i'll try ur new build for aac right now.

Edit: Oops, u said before: "Haven't find a working way with FreePascal yet."
Too bad. I really dont know if this helps, and i realize not all delphi components works on lazarus, but anything is worth a try hehhe:

http://www.chami.com/tips/delphi/111196D.html
http://delphi.about.com/od/vclusing/a/dragdrop.htm
http://www.delphidabbler.com/software/dropfiles?mid=3.1
I found also this:
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/LCL_Drag_Drop#Drag_Drop

[Fidelix]

Sirber, which enhAacPlusEnc build is Bencos using?

Wouldn't it be a good idea to use Nero's aac encoder? I heard it is better, although i have no base for stating this for sure, but i believe you do.

About the aac problem: The process failed with audio encoding, i dont get how mplayer is responsible for it.

Edit: I looked at some of the early posts, and it seems that licensing is a problem for neroaac.
I've got a suggestion. What about something like this?
if FileExists(neroaacenc.exe) or FileExists(neroaacenc.so) then
somebooleanvariable = true;


Or maybe a "NeroAAC" option in Audio Codec dropdown. I dont know the complexity needed to achieve something like this, because it would certainly involve a lot of ifs and elses regarding other options like bitrate, mplayer and etc, but i'm just brainstorming ^^

[Sirber]

Well, i realized the UI "feels" a little different from realanime, i guess thats because your programming approach regarding the interface has changed, so i cant tell if it would be difficult to add a really nice feature RealAnime had, which is Drag n' Drop.

I'll have a look at it, last time I tryed (drag drop) was in 2006 :)
Realanime 6 was a stripdown version of Bencos made in Turbo Delphi, mainly because Bencos wasn't working on Vista at that time.

Sirber, which enhAacPlusEnc build is Bencos using?An old one? :D

Wouldn't it be a good idea to use Nero's aac encoder? I heard it is better, although i have no base for stating this for sure, but i believe you do.

It is better but I cannot bundle it due to it's licence. I will add code to detect and support it though.

[Sirber]

v2010-01-30 with "slow audio extraction" enabled works with AAC source.
For a 24 minutes clip, audio extraction took 9 minutes... :(

[Fidelix]

"For a 24 minutes clip, audio extraction took 9 minutes..."

Thats due to Mplayer right? Ur using mplayer to extract audio?

What about mkvmerge cli?

[Sirber]

I'm using mplayer to convert the source audio track into an uncompressed WAV file, then I launch the audio encoder on that file (faac or enhaacplus, soon nero aac too).

[Fidelix]

Then i guess demuxing files with aac through mp4box or mkvmerge-cli isnt an option?

I believe this would solve the problem, am i right?

[Sirber]

I need to demux and decompress to feed the encoders

[Fidelix]

Well then... thanks for the answers, i guess currently "slow aac encoding" is the only option for me.

Good luck Sirber. And if there is anything i can do to help, i'll gladly do it.
good bye.

[Sirber]

bencos is not really responsive while encoding from HD sources..

[edit]

I'm getting lots of: "Too many video packet in the buffer" and the encoding is realllly slow. :(

[edit]

I'll gonna try with "-nosound -noskip". I read somewhere that mencoder does that when it fails to keep the sinc with video and audio. I hope the sound keeps sync..

[Sirber]

I'll gonna try with "-nosound -noskip". I read somewhere that mencoder does that when it fails to keep the sinc with video and audio. I hope the sound keeps sync..

No more video buffer packets errors, but audio did not encode since I look in mencoder logs to see if there's an audio track lol. I think I'll launch mplayer to extract the audio, and if there's an extracted file, proceed to the audio encoding, else proceed to the final merge.

[Sirber]

I'm gonna remove XviD and add profiles for 720p and 1080p.

[edit]

I think I'm gonna change the toolchain to:

* handbrake CLI for H264 and AAC LC encoding
* mplayer for audio extraction
* enhAacPlus for AAC HE and HE+PS encoding
* optional: Nero AAC for AAC HE and HE+PS encoding

[Fidelix]

I'm gonna remove XviD and add profiles for 720p and 1080p.

[edit]

I think I'm gonna change the toolchain to:

* handbrake CLI for H264 and AAC LC encoding
* mplayer for audio extraction
* enhAacPlus for AAC HE and HE+PS encoding
* optional: Nero AAC for AAC HE and HE+PS encoding

That seems to be getting really good.
good luck man, and keep up the progress!

[Sirber]

I think I'm gonna start a new project to leave this codebase untouched. Too much stuff need to be changed.

"Bencos 2" ;)

[Eretria-chan]

I figure that's a bad idea since that's what you always keep doing! You keep reinventing the same stuff over and over!
You will do what you feel is best, of course, but my advice is that you continue on the current code.

[Sirber]

I figure that's a bad idea since that's what you always keep doing! You keep reinventing the same stuff over and over!
You will do what you feel is best, of course, but my advice is that you continue on the current code.

I have to remove most of the code to implement handbrake and I want to keep the old code working in case of. Anyway it won't affect the user nor the interface layout. There'll be more video profiles and presets for HD content, less filtering, Theora and Vorbis support in mkv. MKV output will be optional and as an addon.

[Eretria-chan]

Then I demand you write it in C++! :D

[Sirber]

Then I demand you write it in C++! :D

not that again.. :scared:

[Fidelix]

You'll write in Free Pascal again?
It seems a better idea since you are already familiarized with the needed code.

And plus, c++ wont have ANY advantage in writing a GUI.

Just please dont stop it Sirber, please! I want so bad to see this done!

[Eretria-chan]

And plus, c++ wont have ANY advantage in writing a GUI.

Didn't say it did ;)
I was kidding.

[Sirber]

Yeah it's in FreePascal (GTK2). I still want a Linux build for Bencos :)

[jofori89]

When will bencos support drag and droping fuction and Shutdown/Hibernate when done?

[Sirber]

When will bencos support drag and droping fuction and Shutdown/Hibernate when done?

dunno

[jofori89]

Because it support batch so i love it, love mencoder too, this is excellent program to make mini-size anime, so good quality. But how can i set it auto shutdown after finish encoding a a lot of episode (upper 5 -10 episodes) ?

[jofori89]

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6180/hatsuyukikobato17.jpg

When i try encode some softsub mkv anime, why output video change to hardsub like that pic (both in mkv or mp4)? I want to it only encode video + audio source, dont hardsub or copy font + ASS subttiles?

[Sirber]

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6180/hatsuyukikobato17.jpg

When i try encode some softsub mkv anime, why output video change to hardsub like that pic (both in mkv or mp4)? I want to it only encode video + audio source, dont hardsub or copy font + ASS subttiles?

Is your sub file external or inside the source (.ass vs .mkv) ?
Subtitles never worked in Bencos (and probably never will).

[Sirber]

Screenshot of BENCOS 2 settings tab (work in progress)

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/5763/bencos220100222.png

[Sirber]

Basic 2-pass (video) encoding works with x264 (HandbrakeCLI) and Theora (ffmpeg2theora).
ffmpeg2theora completly jam the GUI, I'll have to implement AsyncProcess...

[Sirber]

from http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/
Theora video and Vorbis audio in Matroska container

<source src='video.mkv' type='video/x-matroska; codecs="theora, vorbis"'>

I think I'll drop ffmpeg2theora and keep only HandbrakeCLI and output theora to matroska.

[Alex_080]

Hi Sirber can i convert both audio tracks of a dual audio file at same time by BENCOS 2 please tell me because i always face problem when re-encoding a dual audio file.

[Sirber]

Hi Sirber can i convert both audio tracks of a dual audio file at same time by BENCOS 2 please tell me because i always face problem when re-encoding a dual audio file.

That can be done, Handbrake CLI supports it. :cool:

[jofori89]

Is your sub file external or inside the source (.ass vs .mkv) ?
Subtitles never worked in Bencos (and probably never will).

ASS subtitle file and fonts attached to mkv file, it's anime mkv softsub, and output file no has audio too. I retested other mkv file, nothing change. What is wrong with audio and video, i don't enable "Autoload VSFitler" in Haali Media Splitter, my OS is Win XP sp3 and decoder is CoreAVC 2.0


Complete name : E:\My documents\AVS\Maria+Holic - 02 [gg].mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 54.4 MiB
Duration : 23mn 38s
Overall bit rate : 322 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-02-22 12:45:49
Tagged date : UTC 2010-02-22 12:45:49

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 23mn 38s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 320 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 3 378 Kbps
Width : 848 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.033
Stream size : 54.1 MiB (99%)
Writing library : x264 core 83 r1391 3d0f110
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:1:1 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 /
psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 /
fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 /
constrained_intra=0 / bframes=5 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / wpredp=2 /
keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=320
/ ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date : UTC 2010-02-22 12:45:49
Tagged date : UTC 2010-02-22 12:45:54

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : No
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 394ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 3 944 bps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Stream size : 195 Bytes (0%)
Encoded date : UTC 2010-02-22 12:45:54
Tagged date : UTC 2010-02-22 12:45:54


And one request, can you add gaining audio fuction?

[Sirber]

what is a "graining audio function" ?

maybe mencoder did hardsub the subtitles. I'll have to try.

[jofori89]

what is a "graining audio function" ?


Sorry i wrong, regain audio, like amplydb() filter in avisynth

[Sirber]

Sorry i wrong, regain audio, like amplydb() filter in avisynth

There is a "DRC" filter in HandBrake:

Apply extra dynamic range compression to the audio, making soft sounds louder.

Would that do it? I didn't try it yet.

[exorcistas]

Hi Sirber and was the only way to talk to the forum ticle is my first time and I'm dizatualizado about the information just to tell I wonder when will tar ready the new version of the Realanime Realanime7 that version 6 ja ta giving problem in almost all the videos from which fansub by ta dizatulizado when you will launch your website Detritus Software? And a site I used google to translate from Portuguese into English so that ja ta in English only to warn

[Sirber]

ok... I barely understood but I'm not currently working actively on bencos and realanime.
best to post here what issues you're having as it may not be the softwares but the sources themselves or your system.

[exorcistas]

The Sirber ta so is not having problem when I encode with realanime6 softsub videos with subtitles and I think so entrenched with hardsub videos in not getting so right ends encode encode video and leave all bad sound out of sync with the video and other problems and the size is also 50 mb out there is not why the fansub of them have updated their programs and realanime6 dizatualizado ta? one of the fansub that I can not encode the right is just to Anime no Sekai and before you know it was one that did not give me any trouble and realanime6 know when I encode the bar is like the% purcentos is get down on all issues 2, 3 sec every hour until the end of the encoder and I can only encode those videos with realanime6 now so after a time in the MeGUI encode! These are my problems. and I used the program to translate on google and you will not make a version of realanime7 not know when it will be ready?

[Sirber]

please, the translation through google is barely readable and gives me headaches. :(

this thread is about bencos, not realanime 6. you aren't supposed to get delays using the old realanime 6 or bencos. what is your source? in Bencos 20100130, load the problematic source in the "Files" tab, right click on it, select "Info", then paste here the content of the Info popup.

[exorcistas]

General
Complete name : F:\Videos de Fansubb\[#AnimeNSK]_Kiss_X_Sis_TV_-_05_[848x480_H264+AAC]_(03142E54).mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 134 MiB
Duration : 24mn 27s
Overall bit rate : 765 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-05-10 18:59:06
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.9.8 ('C'est le bon') built on Aug 13 2009 12:49:06
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 8 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@3.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 24mn 25s
Width : 848 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Writing library : x264 core 94 r1583 7608d73
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=8 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=8 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=8 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / weightp=2 / keyint=300 / keyint_min=30 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=80 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=19.0 / qcomp=0.80 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:0.00
Language : English
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : Yes
Format settings, PS : No
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 24mn 27s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Menu
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[exorcistas]

It was this source that you always tava contends that the error in audio with Benco else cool comes out and I'll tell you how I clean the configuration of Benco audio, 32 + sterio | Full Flitering, resize 848x480, IVTC and everything High, 44kHz, | Qualiti Video: High, bitrate 380,
General: anime / toons, Container MPEG-4 Video Codec MPEG4 AVC Audio Codec AAC HE + PS
And it also happens with videos softsub and scored once encode law so that it had no sound and I do not use Track ID: Benco's got a problem and sorry for using the google translator it should not cause trouble and thanks for helping me e ai mostra como foi o video quando deu erro

C:\Arquivos de programas\Bencos\mplayer.exe "F:\Videos de Fansubb\[#AnimeNSK]_Kiss_X_Sis_TV_-_05_[848x480_H264+AAC]_(03142E54).mkv" -ass -font "C:\Arquivos de programas\Bencos\Arial.ttf" -subfont-text-scale 5

MPlayer Sherpya-SVN-r30075-4.2.5 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
getch2: 6 can't get number of input events [disabling console input]

Playing F:\Videos de Fansubb\[#AnimeNSK]_Kiss_X_Sis_TV_-_05_[848x480_H264+AAC]_(03142E54).mkv.
Matroska file format detected.
VIDEO: [avc1] 848x480 24bpp 23.976 fps 0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file
Unsupported PixelFormat -1
Selected video codec: [ffh264] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264)
==========================================================================
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [faad] AAC (MPEG2/4 Advanced Audio Coding)
FAAD: compressed input bitrate missing, assuming 128kbit/s!
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/8.33% (ratio: 16000->192000)
Selected audio codec: [faad] afm: faad (FAAD AAC (MPEG-2/MPEG-4 Audio))
==========================================================================
AO: [dsound] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
Starting playback...
Movie-Aspect is 1.77:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
VO: [directx] 848x480 => 848x480 Planar YV12
Fontconfig failed to select a font. Trying without fontconfig...
New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong.
Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).
subtitle font: load_sub_face failed.
Fontconfig failed to select a font. Trying without fontconfig...
New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong.
Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).
subtitle font: load_sub_face failed.

Exiting... (Quit)

[Alex_080]

Hi Sirber can you tell us when you release Bencos 2 and Realanime 7 ...please

[Guest]

@exorcistas

No fansubbing files allowed here. Read and follow our forum rules or strikes will follow. If you must reply do not do it in this thread; send me a PM.

@all

Do not respond to this issue.

[Sirber]

Hi Sirber can you tell us when you release Bencos 2 and Realanime 7 ...please

I can't say... I haven't played with Bencos2 for months (and longer for RA7). There's a lot going in my personal life and now the summer is here! :)

[exorcistas]

Sirber Hi I am having problem to encode the Benco and you told me to use the latest version of Bence 20100130 I put the version I was using was from 2009 but I switched and am having trouble to encode after analyzing the part of encode the error dis me the settings to encode in 2010 Benco what I have to change to get good quality equal to the realanime6 and you will not launch this year's version realanime to 7?

[exorcistas]

Sirber Hi I was wondering how to do one thing at Benco, I'm not getting that when I encode a video with subtitles softsub entrenched it encode the video and fas vicar in hardsub I wanted him to so encode the video and not also the captions to put together After the video the captions you know how I do it?

[Sirber]

per moderator request, I cannot help you with these issues. sorry.

[exorcistas]

Sirber Hi I was wondering one thing you will continue the program and make Realanime version 7 this year yet??

[Sirber]

Sirber Hi I was wondering one thing you will continue the program and make Realanime version 7 this year yet??

Bencos 2 will be ready before RealAnime 7, but since I'm not actively working on them....

[exorcistas]

and what is this Benco two that will tar ta realanime7 ready before that I'm not very apar this? ...

[exorcistas]

When will tar the ready in two Benco Sirber

[exorcistas]

And I really like the program realanime so I was wondering when the new version comes out in July I found very useful the realanime Benco but I did not like very few have problems with the video in softsub that transforms the caption with the video and changes the shape of encode with subtitles when it will be for video and softsub why my operating systems and Windons in Sirber and it seems that is not the same picture quality when it leaves the video encode compared to realanime or print it so? I use the version of Benco 2010 would not have this problem if I USACE 2009 version of the problem together encode the caption if softsub a video?

[exorcistas]

Sirber Hi I was wondering when the Realanime version will be ready in July will tar tar that will ready this year though I have not got on with the Benco please answer my question of when the program Realanime Version 7 will tar prompt that I found realanime6 very useful to me! Please Respond

[Sirber]

jeez..............

[MajorX]

Yes Realanime 6 Bencos are best encoders so please Sirber .............:)

[Shiznadnaz]

Hey Sirber

I've been using Bencos for a while now but I'm having a strange problem now, it encodes the file but the output file is not there I searched my whole drive and couldnt find the encoded files anywhere, any ideas why this is?

[flebber]

I received an error when muxing to mp4. Video encoding and audio encoding were complete. This is the log, what else could I give to help you figure out error.

C:\Program Files\Bencos\MP4Box.exe -tmp "C:\DOCUME~1\Family\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/" -add C:\DOCUME~1\Family\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/video.264 -fps 3) -new ":\Rip\Produced\dvdout.mp4" -add "C:\DOCUME~1\Family\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/audio.mp4"

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Due to 99% completion there was no final file output either.

[Fidelix]

Well Sirber, i tried sending you an e-mail, but it seems your e-mail at detritus does not exist. Anyway, i'll just paste it here:

Hello Stéphane.

I am Fidelix from doom9 forums.
I would like to give you my complements about Realanime. It is my favorite x264 GUI.

Now the problem: I have a weekly necessity of encoding anime, and realanime uses old versions of available decoders and encoders, and this is generating some problems for some modern files for me.
mencoder and enhAacPlusEnc crashes some times, so i'm trying to create simple batch process for encoding my own files.

Favor:

Please, could you show me the command line settings that RealAnime uses for enhAacPlusEnc, mencoder and mplayer?
To be more specific, i would like to achieve the perfect quality RealAnime delivers, but i was never able using other GUIs, i guess this is my fault, but anyway...

I am sorry for asking you this in this manner, but i found no other way of contacting you.
I thank you already for reading this message, and i will respect if you decide not to show me the mencoder settings.

Regards,
Felipe Fidelix

[exorcistas]

Sirber Hi I was wondering if you'll cast realanime July this year yet? I think the program realanime an encoder to encode very good anime please place this year yet

[Eretria-chan]

It will be out when, and only when, Sirber decides to release it. Your nagging will only serve to annoy.
I think Sirber will tell us if he plans to release a new version. Until then, be patient. Nagging is bad practice on many forums.

[exorcistas]

Sirber Hi I was wondering if you have a forecast for the launch of Realanime7?

[Eretria-chan]

What did I just tell you? If Sirber has any information about a release he wants to divulge, he will do so. You replying here with all these infernal questions about when it will be released will only serve to annoy him.
Cut it out. Sirber will tell you/us when he feels like announcing something.

[flebber]

I can't say... I haven't played with Bencos2 for months (and longer for RA7). There's a lot going in my personal life and now the summer is here! :)

exorcistas! sirber has recently posted the above comment about development and progress, what more do you want?!

[gambit7]

I seem to be not able to encode any kind of video file

C:\DOCUME~1\H\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/video.264 -x264encopts deblock=0,0:bframes=2:frameref=2:threads=auto:b_pyramid=normal:nofast_pskip:nopsnr:bitrate=512:pass=1:turbo=2 -vf harddup

MEncoder dev-SVN-rUNKNOWN-4.1.1 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team
CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2600+ (Family: 15, Model: 44, Stepping: 2)
CPUflags: Type: 15 MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
Compiled with runtime CPU detection.
Option x264encopts: Bad argument b_pyramid=normal
success: format: 0 data: 0x0 - 0xe067676
AVI file format detected.
VIDEO: [xvid] 640x480 24bpp 29.970 fps 1200.7 kbps (146.6 kbyte/s)
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/8.33% (ratio: 16000->192000)
Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3)
==========================================================================
Opening video filter: [expand osd=1]
Expand: -1 x -1, -1 ; -1, osd: 1, aspect: 0.000000, round: 1
Opening video filter: [harddup]
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffodivx] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-4)
==========================================================================
VDec: vo config request - 640 x 480 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12)
VDec: using Planar I420 as output csp (no 1)
Movie-Aspect is 1.33:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver.
VDec: vo config request - 640 x 480 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12)
VDec: using Planar I420 as output csp (no 1)
Movie-Aspect is 1.33:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver.

Exiting...

[exorcistas]

I was wondering when the Realanime7 will tar prompt that version 6 is not working anymore ta ta disatualizada and that can not encode more right? And I do not say is that your life is busy now that I know it must tar busy with life's problems and everything else but fans already almost 1 year that you did not launch the new version that you started doing it not ready divia tar Realanime that is an awesome program to encode anime why I'm insisting

[exorcistas]

Oi Sirber o Realanime6 quase não funciona mais da para tu fazer a versão 7 logo!! Onegaishimasu

[Sirber]

I received an error when muxing to mp4. Video encoding and audio encoding were complete. This is the log, what else could I give to help you figure out error.

Due to 99% completion there was no final file output either.

could be a MP4Box error/crash. What does bencos's log say?

[Sirber]

I seem to be not able to encode any kind of video file

C:\DOCUME~1\H\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/video.264 -x264encopts deblock=0,0:bframes=2:frameref=2:threads=auto:b_pyramid=normal:nofast_pskip:nopsnr:bitrate=512:pass=1:turbo=2 -vf harddup

MEncoder dev-SVN-rUNKNOWN-4.1.1 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team
CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2600+ (Family: 15, Model: 44, Stepping: 2)
CPUflags: Type: 15 MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
Compiled with runtime CPU detection.
Option x264encopts: Bad argument b_pyramid=normal
success: format: 0 data: 0x0 - 0xe067676
AVI file format detected.
VIDEO: [xvid] 640x480 24bpp 29.970 fps 1200.7 kbps (146.6 kbyte/s)
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/8.33% (ratio: 16000->192000)
Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3)
==========================================================================
Opening video filter: [expand osd=1]
Expand: -1 x -1, -1 ; -1, osd: 1, aspect: 0.000000, round: 1
Opening video filter: [harddup]
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffodivx] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-4)
==========================================================================
VDec: vo config request - 640 x 480 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12)
VDec: using Planar I420 as output csp (no 1)
Movie-Aspect is 1.33:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver.
VDec: vo config request - 640 x 480 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12)
VDec: using Planar I420 as output csp (no 1)
Movie-Aspect is 1.33:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver.

Exiting...

MEncoder dev-SVN-rUNKNOWN-4.1.1 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team

are you using the latest version of bencos?

[Sirber]

Hey Sirber

I've been using Bencos for a while now but I'm having a strange problem now, it encodes the file but the output file is not there I searched my whole drive and couldnt find the encoded files anywhere, any ideas why this is?

Was the output folder set correctly?

[Sirber]

jeez..............

and what is this Benco two that will tar ta realanime7 ready before that I'm not very apar this? ...

When will tar the ready in two Benco Sirber

Sirber Hi I was wondering when the Realanime version will be ready in July will tar tar that will ready this year though I have not got on with the Benco please answer my question of when the program Realanime Version 7 will tar prompt that I found realanime6 very useful to me! Please Respond

Sirber Hi I was wondering if you have a forecast for the launch of Realanime7?

I was wondering when the Realanime7 will tar prompt that version 6 is not working anymore ta ta disatualizada and that can not encode more right? And I do not say is that your life is busy now that I know it must tar busy with life's problems and everything else but fans already almost 1 year that you did not launch the new version that you started doing it not ready divia tar Realanime that is an awesome program to encode anime why I'm insisting

Oi Sirber o Realanime6 quase não funciona mais da para tu fazer a versão 7 logo!! Onegaishimasu

I reported you and now I'm blocking you. :mad:

[Sirber]

Well Sirber, i tried sending you an e-mail, but it seems your e-mail at detritus does not exist. Anyway, i'll just paste it here:

it does exists, maybe it got in spam and I didn't notice it.

RealAnime 6 is outdated. Please use the latest bencos.

as seen on http://www.detritus.qc.ca/:
Status:
Latest release is almost 2 years old and probably outdated. Updating mencoder will break RealAnime 6 since x264 flags changed in recent mencoder releases. I strongly suggest you use Bencos instead. The next version, RealAnime 7, is currently in early development.

... make it 3 years :)

you can get the current latest build of bencos here:
http://code.google.com/p/bencos/downloads/detail?name=BENCOS_20100130-2.exe

[ckmox]

@Sirber

will you update bencos? can you make a compress archive (zip/7-zip) only for portability purposes? because dont want much to install software now a days
and if possible please dont use .Net base programming on this because true compiled languages are the real win :)

EDIT:

i downloaded the source file http://code.google.com/p/bencos/downloads/detail?name=bencos_src_20100130.7z
i made a very minor tweak on the settings of bencos on psy-rd and aq-strength i set them both to 0.6
here is where i change the code

// Profiles (slow!)
case cboVQuality.ItemIndex of
0: sV2 := sV + sOptTmp + ':pass=2:8x8dct:weight_b:mixed_refs:me=hex:partitions=all:subq=7:psy_rd=0.6,0.0:aq-strength=0.6 ';
1: sV2 := sV + sOptTmp + ':pass=2:8x8dct:weight_b:mixed_refs:me=umh:partitions=all:subq=8:trellis=1:psy_rd=0.6,0.0:aq-strength=0.6 ';
2: sV2 := sV + sOptTmp + ':pass=2:8x8dct:weight_b:mixed_refs:me=umh:partitions=all:subq=9:trellis=2:psy_rd=0.6,0.0:aq-strength=0.6 ';
end;

also i changed the resolution (Resize) item lists to 512x384 for 4:3 and 640x360 for 16:9 and made the Resize checbox checked property to true

im totally noob in programming and commandline of encoding i just want to atleast tweak this settings for anime intention
but i got a problem on that source file of bencos and that i cant encode audio with it so can i ask you
is their some missing code on the audio section of that source file of bencos?

this is the tweak bencos
http://www.mediafire.com/?kxazdum6hxms95d

[Sirber]

@Sirber

will you update bencos? can you make a compress archive (zip/7-zip) only for portability purposes? because dont want much to install software now a days
and if possible please dont use .Net base programming on this because true compiled languages are the real win :)

it's in FreePascal, using the Lazarus IDE. I'm in the process of creating the v2, changing mencoder to handbrake. I used 7z because google site doesn't like .exe. Bencos is released as an installer. if you don't want to install it, you can extract it with 7zip (the nsis installer).

EDIT:

i downloaded the source file http://code.google.com/p/bencos/downloads/detail?name=bencos_src_20100130.7z
i made a very minor tweak on the settings of bencos on psy-rd and aq-strength i set them both to 0.6
here is where i change the code

// Profiles (slow!)
case cboVQuality.ItemIndex of
0: sV2 := sV + sOptTmp + ':pass=2:8x8dct:weight_b:mixed_refs:me=hex:partitions=all:subq=7:psy_rd=0.6,0.0:aq-strength=0.6 ';
1: sV2 := sV + sOptTmp + ':pass=2:8x8dct:weight_b:mixed_refs:me=umh:partitions=all:subq=8:trellis=1:psy_rd=0.6,0.0:aq-strength=0.6 ';
2: sV2 := sV + sOptTmp + ':pass=2:8x8dct:weight_b:mixed_refs:me=umh:partitions=all:subq=9:trellis=2:psy_rd=0.6,0.0:aq-strength=0.6 ';
end;

also i changed the resolution (Resize) item lists to 512x384 for 4:3 and 640x360 for 16:9 and made the Resize checbox checked property to true

im totally noob in programming and commandline of encoding i just want to atleast tweak this settings for anime intention
but i got a problem on that source file of bencos and that i cant encode audio with it so can i ask you
is their some missing code on the audio section of that source file of bencos?

this is the tweak bencos
http://www.mediafire.com/?kxazdum6hxms95d

try "slow audio extraction". mplayer has difficulties extracting the WAV from the source sometimes.

I'll look at the tweaks and release a new version.

[ckmox]

@Sirber

ok ill try extracting the installer using 7-zip because i find installers now a days bothersome lol

and ye i know its in Lazarus (Freepascal) im just hoping that youll continue to program BENCOS on this and not in .Net

and about the tweaks i made ye do take a look at them and ill test out the "slow audio extraction" option
but audio encoding works in this installer though http://code.google.com/p/bencos/downloads/detail?name=BENCOS_20100130-2.exe
so i guess that the source code have some problem? but anyway ill look into it more and hope my brain will not blow

[Sirber]

the source code is missing all the needed cmdline apps :)

[ckmox]

ye but i compiled it in Lazarus (Ctrl+F9) then replace the bencos.exe that i got from the compilation onto the directory that has all the commandline apps so its working
and i think i found out the error on the source code its about chkASlowExtract

this is the only code i found about this variable

if (chkASlowExtract.Checked = false) then
sA1 := sA1 + ' -vc null'; // fails with AAC audio

but how about when chkSlowExtract.Checked = true where is the code for this?

[Sirber]

i think i found out the error on the source code its about chkASlowExtract

this is the only code i found about this variable

but how about when chkSlowExtract.Checked = true where is the code for this?

the checkbox is only used when it's not checked :)

[ckmox]

ah ok so there maybe something wrong with the source code because i compiled the source code and use it and the video encoding finishes and muxing too but it has no audio

but in the other hand this installer your provide http://code.google.com/p/bencos/downloads/detail?name=BENCOS_20100130-2.exe with "slow audio extraction" checked finishes the encoding with audio too

[Sirber]

mmmm I used that sourcecode for the latest installer.. :scared:

[ckmox]

lol thats odd ok if i dont fix the audio encoding problem with my limited knowledge ill just wait for your own update :)

[Sirber]

I'm testing the new webm codec on anime and it's quite good!.. well a bit less than x264 :)
I'm also testing ffmpeg (win32) to see if it would be good instead of mencoder.

edit

WebM:
ffmpeg.exe -i E002.avi -threads 4 -pass 1 -passlogfile out.webm -b 368k -g 120 -qmax 63 -ab 32 -y out.webm
ffmpeg.exe -i E002.avi -threads 4 -pass 2 -passlogfile out.webm -b 368k -g 120 -qmax 63 -ab 32 -y out.webm

x264:
ffmpeg.exe -i E002.avi -threads 4 -pass 1 -vcodec libx264 -b 368k -passlogfile out.mp4 -fpre presets/libx264-veryslow_firstpass.ffpreset -y out.mp4
ffmpeg.exe -i E002.avi -threads 4 -pass 2 -vcodec libx264 -b 368k -passlogfile out.mp4 -fpre presets/libx264-veryslow.ffpreset -y out.mp4

http://ext.detritus.qc.ca/tmp/webm/

[Sirber]

I found a way to have the softsubs in the output:

ffmpeg.exe -i E01.mkv -threads 4 -vcodec libx264 -scodec copy -slang eng -b 368k -fpre presets/libx264-normal.ffpreset -an -y out_sub.mkv
ffmpeg.exe -i E01.mkv -threads 4 -vn -sn -acodec pcm_s16le -alang jpn -y out_aud.wav
neroAacEnc.exe -2pass -br 32000 -if out_aud.wav -of out_aud.m4a
ffmpeg.exe -i out_sub.mkv -i out_aud.m4a -vcodec copy -acodec copy -scodec copy -y out_sub_aud.mkv

but I cannot convert every source (like malformed avi/bframe sources). container must be mkv (mp4 don't support .ass), video codec could be vp8..

[ckmox]

is ffmpeg reliable on muxing? i encoded a h264 mkv file and encoded the video part using x264 (o1.mkv) and then the audio (o.ogg) through ffmpeg libvorbis but when i mux them with this command line
ffmpeg -i o1.mkv -i o.ogg -vcodec copy -acodec copy -y vid_aud_out.mkv
i got video that stops and suddenly jumps but the audio still running using MPC-HC
but when i mux them through mkvmergeGUI the file is fine when i play it though MPC-HC

[Sirber]

is ffmpeg reliable on muxing?

Try a recent ffmpeg (download (http://ffmpeg.arrozcru.org/autobuilds/)), I did not get problems on my side. Please tell me if it works :)

[ckmox]

Try a recent ffmpeg (download (http://ffmpeg.arrozcru.org/autobuilds/)), I did not get problems on my side. Please tell me if it works :)

still broken for me :( here is what i used


Automated FFmpeg 32-bit Windows builds made by Ramiro Polla.

FFmpeg revision: 25249
SwScale revision: 32401

Build date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 04:05:27 -0300

[Sirber]

still broken for me :( here is what i used

hum... so far I only tested x264 + aac in mkv and mp4, works fine, and vp8 + ogg in webm/mkv and it works fine too.

[Fidelix]

Sirber,
Please, could you show me the command line settings that RealAnime uses for enhAacPlusEnc, mencoder and mplayer when using the "HIGH" quality setting?

[Sirber]

Sirber,
Please, could you show me the command line settings that RealAnime uses for enhAacPlusEnc, mencoder and mplayer when using the "HIGH" quality setting?

you can see them in the sources:
http://code.google.com/p/bencos/downloads/list

[Sirber]

small update: BENCOS_20101105.exe (http://code.google.com/p/bencos/downloads/detail?name=BENCOS_20101105.exe&can=2&q=#makechanges) changelog (http://code.google.com/p/bencos/wiki/changelog)

[Sirber]

Little todo:

* add WebM (ffmpeg: VP8 + vorbis)
* add Nero AAC encoder (as a separate download)

[Alex_080]

Thanks Sirber for small update of Bencos....waiting for ur full new version of Bencos.
Is it true that Realanime gives better results thank Bencos?
From my tests i see RA gives good result than Bencos ...i don't know why but it gives.

[Sirber]

RealAnime 6 was a fork of BENCOS because I had issues running BENCOS in Vista with UAC enabled, and it is now ~4 years old. It used the same encoding settings as BENCOS.

[Sirber]

erm the source code is so ugly.. lol

[Sirber]

new home: http://code.google.com/p/bencos/

[Sirber]

beside "resize", which other filters do you people use?
saving that space I might do a "all in one page" instead of 3 tabs.

[Sirber]

well... looks like I'm in for a lot of code change :)

http://code.google.com/p/bencos/wiki/todo

[Sirber]

new untabbed interface will look like this:

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/382/bencos20101106.png

[Alex_080]

Hi Sirber

In bencos high setting r..reframes and bframes are both 5 is it good? i think increasing reframes gives better result like 8.

what about psy_rd and aq value for anime?

when i encoding some anime with realanime 6 i see the edges are smooth and looks good..but with bencos it not looks good even with higher setting.(without resizing)

Is the new Bencos can encode dual audio file?

[Sirber]

Hi Sirber

In bencos high setting r..reframes and bframes are both 5 is it good? i think increasing reframes gives better result like 8.

what about psy_rd and aq value for anime?

when i encoding some anime with realanime 6 i see the edges are smooth and looks good..but with bencos it not looks good even with higher setting.(without resizing)

I'll doublecheck RA6's settings. Currently the "new" bencos uses the presets files found with ffmpeg. I'll have to look about "psy_rd" and "aq". It's been a while since I played with x264 :)

Is the new Bencos can encode dual audio file?

Currently no. I added a track selector using the input language. I guess I could recode them all too..

adding on todo (http://code.google.com/p/bencos/wiki/todo)

[Alex_080]

Hi Sirber
In new bencos if possible can u add an option by which one can encode only video without audio...means one can disable audio while encoding.

One request Sirber please add some required filters which are good for anime encoding.

[flebber]

Just to clarify are you going to use ffmpeg or ffms2 with bencos?

[Sirber]

Hi Sirber
In new bencos if possible can u add an option by which one can encode only video without audio...means one can disable audio while encoding.

bencos is ment to be a "finalware", not a "middleware". There are other tools for that matter.


One request Sirber please add some required filters which are good for anime encoding.

beside "resize" I'm not sure what would be useful. Since it's not a DVD ripping application, the source should be already filtered.

Just to clarify are you going to use ffmpeg or ffms2 with bencos?

ffmpeg directly.

[Sirber]

the first working dev build! :D

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4797/bencos20101107.png

Download:
http://code.google.com/p/bencos/downloads/detail?name=BENCOS_20101107_dev.exe (sources (http://code.google.com/p/bencos/downloads/detail?name=bencos_src_20101107.7z))

Changelog:
http://code.google.com/p/bencos/wiki/changelog#2010-11-07_dev

Notes:
* only tested with 1 file in queue
* old bencos "High" mode is now ~ "x264/slow"
* it expects a source with video and audio stream.
* stop button doesn't work yet
* ipod profil might work if you select AAC-LC

[Alex_080]

Thanks Sirber for new dev version of bencos.
I will try this today.

[Alex_080]

In audio bitrate i m not found 32kbs. (Codec:AAC-LC)
I face an error.
Error:File for preset 'C:\Program Files\Bencos\presets/libx264-veryslow_firstpass.ffpreset' not found

[Sirber]

In audio bitrate i m not found 32kbs.
(Codec:AAC-LC)

AAC LC doesn't go bellow 64kbps, and at 64kbps it sounds really crappy. Best use AAC HE+PS or Vorbis.


I face an error.
Error:File for preset 'C:\Program Files\Bencos\presets/libx264-veryslow_firstpass.ffpreset' not found

my bad, forgot to add the presets to the installer.. :o

[edit]

please redownload the installer :)

[Sirber]

"slower" takes ~2h30 to encode a ~24m clip on my Phenom II X3, while with old bencos at "High" it would take ~35 minutes.

[Alex_080]

dev version working!:)
New Bencos is slower than both RA and old bencos..i think it is due to use of b_adapt=2 .In RA and old bencos it is 1.
Can u add the RA high setting profile?
In video section are u going add source types like anime, movies etc.

[Sirber]

dev version working!:)
New Bencos is slower than both RA and old bencos..i think it is due to use of b_adapt=2 .In RA and old bencos it is 1.

the slower the better ;)


Can u add the RA high setting profile?


RA6's code:

// Source Type
case cboVSourceType.ItemIndex of
0: sOptSourceType := 'deblock=0,0:bframes=2:frameref=2:'; // Generic
1: sOptSourceType := 'deblock=1,1:bframes=5:frameref=5:'; // Anime and Toons
2: sOptSourceType := 'deblock=-2,-1:bframes=3:frameref=4:'; // Movies
3: sOptSourceType := 'deblock=-3,-1:bframes=3:frameref=3:'; // Sports
4: sOptSourceType := 'deblock=-1,0:bframes=5:frameref=3:'; // DV Captures
end;
sOptTmp := '-of rawvideo -ovc x264 -oac pcm -o ' + sVideoOut + ' -x264encopts ' + sOptSourceType + 'threads=auto:b_pyramid:nofast_pskip:nopsnr:bitrate=' + txtVBitrate.Text;

// First pass (fast!)
sV1 := sV + sOptTmp + ':pass=1:turbo=2';
// Profiles (slow!)
case cboVQuality.ItemIndex of
0: sV2 := sV + sOptTmp + ':pass=2:8x8dct:weight_b:mixed_refs:me=umh:bime:partitions=all:subq=6:brdo:trellis=1 ';
1: sV2 := sV + sOptTmp + ':pass=2:8x8dct:weight_b:mixed_refs:me=umh:bime:partitions=all:subq=7:brdo:trellis=2 ';
end;
sV2 := sV2 + ' -nosound '; // remove sound from seocnd pass
sTempFiles.Add(sVideoOut);


some of the options are deprecated (at least bime IIRC). bencos (old and new) use better settings.

In video section are u going add source types like anime, movies etc.

not sure, currently I only use the presets that comes with ffmpeg. I could add a "custom" preset if a user-made file "libx264-custom.ffpreset" is found.

[Sirber]

nnnice! I have the softsubs in the outputed mkv :D

[Alex_080]

It is nice and easy to use for different source if u add source types like anime, movies.so if possible please add this in future.

[Sirber]

It is nice and easy to use for different source if u add source types like anime, movies.so if possible please add this in future.

I would have to double the entries for movie/slow, anime/slow, etc. :(

[Alex_080]

Is it possible add two tabs likes one tab contains sources like Anime, Movie etc. and other tab contains profiles like slower, slow, normal?so that we can choose what we want.

[Sirber]

Is it possible add two tabs likes one tab contains sources like Anime, Movie etc. and other tab contains profiles like slower, slow, normal?so that we can choose what we want.

would be possible, but no. I think the presets are good as is.

[Sirber]

found a bug:

* merge will fail if the output file already exist. fixed in dev build.

[Alex_080]

Are the values of psy_rd and aq really affect the quality in anime encoding?
I want to know is it ok with psy_rd=1.00:0.00 and aq=1:1.00.

[Sirber]

Are the values of psy_rd and aq really affect the quality in anime encoding?
I want to know is it ok with psy_rd=1.00:0.00 and aq=1:1.00.

I don't know, best ask in AVC forum. :(

[Sirber]

I'm testing the encoding queue. might have a release tomorrow if it works.
changes since the last dev release:

* added subtitle support (soft, to Matroska only)
* added new icon/logo
* added presets: "faster", "fast" and "medium"
* updated container/codec selection:
** x264/PC locks to MKV :
** x264/iPod to MP4 and AAC-LC
** WebM to WebM and Vorbis
** fixed: start / stop button
* fixed: merge fails if output file exists

[Sirber]

from time to time ffmpeg "hang" at 100% CPU merging files and stop responding :S

[Alex_080]

Today i download your new dev version but Avira antivirus detect it as TR/Dropper.Gen

I visit and search some AVS forum and i found that for anime encoding psy_rd= 0.6 and aq= aq=1:0.60 are suitable values.

[Sirber]

a virus in which file? MSSE finds nothing here.

[Alex_080]

Avira Antivirus detects it as Malware.

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8428/virusa.jpg

[Sirber]

... false positive. I only added the ffmpeg presets to the installer...

[Sharktooth]

avira is well known to detect TONS of false positives.
however, false positives apart, is one of the "best" antiviruses (even the free version).

[flebber]

Added an MKV file and hit start. Got this error though.

C:\Program Files\Bencos\ffmpeg.exe -an -y -threads 8 -i "C:\Rip\Source\FAWLTY_TOWERS_PROP2_DISC2\title05.mkv" -vb 268k -vcodec libx264 -passlogfile "C:\DOCUME~1\Family\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/video.mp4" -pass 1 -fpre "C:\Program Files\Bencos\presets/libx264-slower_firstpass.ffpreset" "C:\DOCUME~1\Family\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/video.mp4"

FFmpeg version SVN-r25680, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 the FFmpeg developers
built on Nov 6 2010 04:07:01 with gcc 4.4.2
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --enable-libgsm --enable-pthreads --enable-libvorbis --enable-libtheora --enable-libspeex --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libopencore_amrwb --enable-libopencore_amrnb --enable-libvpx --disable-decoder=libvpx --arch=x86 --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-libxvid --enable-libx264 --extra-libs='-lx264 -lpthread' --enable-librtmp --extra-libs='-lrtmp -lpolarssl -lws2_32 -lwinmm' --target-os=mingw32 --enable-avisynth --cross-prefix=i686-mingw32- --cc='ccache i686-mingw32-gcc' --enable-memalign-hack
libavutil 50.32. 6 / 50.32. 6
libavcore 0.12. 0 / 0.12. 0
libavcodec 52.94. 3 / 52.94. 3
libavformat 52.84. 0 / 52.84. 0
libavdevice 52. 2. 2 / 52. 2. 2
libavfilter 1.56. 0 / 1.56. 0
libswscale 0.12. 0 / 0.12. 0
Unable to find a suitable output format for 'Files\Bencos\ffmpeg.exe'

[Sirber]

Added an MKV file and hit start. Got this error though.

I have no clue.. what OS are you on? Did the old bencos work?

[flebber]

Windows XP sp 3. yeah the old bencos worked.

[Sirber]

new release: download (http://code.google.com/p/bencos/downloads/detail?name=BENCOS_20101108_dev.exe&can=2&q=) changelog (http://code.google.com/p/bencos/wiki/changelog#2010-11-08_dev)

[Sirber]

Windows XP sp 3. yeah the old bencos worked.

just to be sure, would it work if you install it to "C:\bencos"?
mine is at "C:\Users\sirber\Documents\My Dropbox\prog\bencos\out" and works (on w7)

[flebber]

Just installed latest dev release to C:\Bencos and it is now working

[Sirber]

Just installed latest dev release to C:\Bencos and it is now working I'll try to encapsulate the ffmpeg.exe path in " " and give you a special build tonight to test.

[Alex_080]

new dev version working :)
one request Sirber..can u make a profile for anime encoding. I know given profiles are good but i need one special for anime.
I need slow one like these values
ref=8, subme=8, deblock=1:1:1, fast_pskip=0, bframes=3, b_pyramid=2, b_adapt=2, aq=2:0.50, psy_rd=0.60:0.00, rc_lookahead=50

[Sirber]

new dev version working :)

installed in the default folder?


one request Sirber..can u make a profile for anime encoding. I know given profiles are good but i need one special for anime.
I need slow one like these values

like I said earlier, I'll add the possibility to have your own custom ffpreset file, so you'll be able to encode the way you like.

[Alex_080]

installed in the default folder?
yes i installed at C:\Program Files\Bencos
and it works.

[Sirber]

yes i installed at C:\Program Files\Bencos
and it works.

excellent :)
and best of all I did nothing :D

[Sirber]

bug #2 (http://code.google.com/p/bencos/issues/detail?id=2):

in my dev folder it was using neroAACencoder, but when I install it the encoder is not present, and enhAacEnc doesn,t seem to work well (bad commandline maybe). You can use this wiki (http://code.google.com/p/bencos/wiki/Nero_AAC_encoder) to use Nero encoder instead.

[edit]

works fine with Nero AAC. I'm gonna fix it tonight.

[Sirber]

bug #3: http://code.google.com/p/bencos/issues/detail?id=3

ffmpeg related.. :(

[edit]

might have to put mkvtoolnix back..

[Sirber]

new test build: http://bencos.googlecode.com/files/BENCOS_20101109_dev.exe
changelog: http://code.google.com/p/bencos/wiki/changelog#2010-11-09_dev

[Alex_080]

New dev version working fine for me :)

[Sirber]

new bug. a tutorial is included to manualy fix the issue until the next release.
http://code.google.com/p/bencos/issues/detail?id=4

[ckmox]

oh you've resume development thats nice because before this i made a gui using handbrakeCLI for anime too called cyko lying here on the forums and that the source code of bencos help me program it so thanks

as for the topic i downloaded this BENCOS v20101109_dev and the new look is good but is the filtering area will add resizing of resolution too?

[Sirber]

oh you've resume development thats nice because before this i made a gui using handbrakeCLI for anime too called cyko lying here on the forums and that the source code of bencos help me program it so thanks

no problem! best luck with your gui! :)

as for the topic i downloaded this BENCOS v20101109_dev and the new look is good but is the filtering area will add resizing of resolution too?

yes, I'm gonna add at least resize.

[Sirber]

I had 5 minutes:

http://code.google.com/p/bencos/downloads/detail?name=BENCOS_20101112_dev.exe

[ckmox]

I had 5 minutes:

http://code.google.com/p/bencos/downloads/detail?name=BENCOS_20101112_dev.exe

nice resizing is added now

[Sirber]

nice resizing is added now

I did not test it, but it should work. It's basicly just adding a flag to ffmpeg.. :)

[ckmox]

I did not test it, but it should work. It's basicly just adding a flag to ffmpeg.. :)

i can confirm it works on my test

[Sirber]

i can confirm it works on my test

thank you!

[Sirber]

I think I'm gonna add my own presets. FFMPEG's defaults aren't tuned for anime content
I found this guide (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/MeGUI/x264_Settings).

[Sirber]

new dev version working :)
one request Sirber..can u make a profile for anime encoding. I know given profiles are good but i need one special for anime.
I need slow one like these values

"aq" and "psy_rd" settings, if this guide (https://sites.google.com/site/linuxencoding/x264-ffmpeg-mapping) is correct, does not exist in ffmpeg :(

[Sirber]

what you you think about those?

Fast First Pass:
coder=1
flags=+loop
cmp=+chroma
partitions=+parti8x8+parti4x4+partp8x8+partp4x4+partb8x8
me_method=dia
subq=2
me_range=24
g=250
keyint_min=25
sc_threshold=40
i_qfactor=0.71
b_strategy=1
qcomp=0.6
qmin=10
qmax=51
qdiff=4
bf=16
refs=1
directpred=3
trellis=0
flags2=+bpyramid+mixed_refs+wpred+dct8x8-fastpskip
wpredp=2
rc_lookahead=60

Anime / LQ:
coder=1
flags=+loop
cmp=+chroma
partitions=+parti8x8+parti4x4+partp8x8+partp4x4+partb8x8
me_method=umh
subq=8
me_range=16
g=250
keyint_min=25
sc_threshold=40
i_qfactor=0.71
b_strategy=1
qcomp=0.6
qmin=10
qmax=51
qdiff=4
deblockalpha=1
deblockbeta=1
bf=16
refs=16
directpred=3
trellis=0
flags2=+bpyramid+mixed_refs+wpred+dct8x8-fastpskip
wpredp=2
rc_lookahead=60

Anime / MQ:
coder=1
flags=+loop
cmp=+chroma
partitions=+parti8x8+parti4x4+partp8x8+partp4x4+partb8x8
me_method=umh
subq=9
me_range=24
g=250
keyint_min=25
sc_threshold=40
i_qfactor=0.71
b_strategy=2
qcomp=0.6
qmin=10
qmax=51
qdiff=4
deblockalpha=1
deblockbeta=1
bf=16
refs=12
directpred=3
trellis=1
flags2=+bpyramid+mixed_refs+wpred+dct8x8-fastpskip
wpredp=2
rc_lookahead=60

Anime / HQ:
coder=1
flags=+loop
cmp=+chroma
partitions=+parti8x8+parti4x4+partp8x8+partp4x4+partb8x8
me_method=umh
subq=10
me_range=32
g=250
keyint_min=25
sc_threshold=40
i_qfactor=0.71
b_strategy=2
qcomp=0.6
qmin=10
qmax=51
qdiff=4
deblockalpha=1
deblockbeta=1
bf=16
refs=16
directpred=3
trellis=2
flags2=+bpyramid+mixed_refs+wpred+dct8x8-fastpskip
wpredp=2
rc_lookahead=60

[Sirber]

if my test goes well, I'm gonna release another dev build tonight with "anime presets" and "file deag-drop".

[ckmox]

"aq" and "psy_rd" settings, if this guide (https://sites.google.com/site/linuxencoding/x264-ffmpeg-mapping) is correct, does not exist in ffmpeg :(


"aq" and "psy_rd" can be set of ffmpeg
and i think for anime the best for them in general considering your gonna encode in low bitrate too are


psy_rd=0.0
aq_mode=2
aq_strength=0.6


to get all the settings for x264 on ffmpeg just do this on the command prompt
ffmpeg -h > ffmpegHelp.txt
and access ffmpegHelp.txt that is generated

[Sirber]

Thanks for the hint! I'm gonna add them in the next next release!

http://code.google.com/p/bencos/downloads/detail?name=BENCOS_20101114_dev.exe

http://code.google.com/p/bencos/wiki/changelog?ts=1289780259&updated=changelog#2010-11-14_dev

[Alex_080]

Thanks Sirber for anime profiles ...working great.
Waiting for your next release....with u r new release plz update x264 1766 also.

Is it good use more threads in encoding ..new bencos use threads=8 .....old one use threads=3?

@ckmox
psy_rd=0.00

Is it good to use psy_rd =0.0 for anime encoding?actually i see many encoders use value like 0.4 or 0.6?

[ckmox]

Is it good to use psy_rd =0.0 for anime encoding?actually i see many encoders use value like 0.4 or 0.6?

i recommend psy_rd=0.0 because im considering mini-size anime encoding too like if you encountered those 40mb anime rips that has like 250 bitrate only and if you use psy-rd on those kind of rips it will look too noisy so i say psy-rd is just good for video bitrates that is 700 above, and if you notice too psyrd for anime is low at 0.4 or 0.6 instead of 1.0 right? so that means psy-rd is not advisable most of the time in anime atleast imo

[Sirber]

Thanks Sirber for anime profiles ...working great.
Waiting for your next release....with u r new release plz update x264 1766 also.

I'm using ffmpeg, not x264 (directly). I get my build here:
http://ffmpeg.arrozcru.org/autobuilds/

Is it good use more threads in encoding ..new bencos use threads=8 .....old one use threads=3?

in that time there were only dual cores, now it goes up to 8 :)

[Alex_080]

i want to use the level option of x264 in FFmpeg and i tried as level=5.1 but it shows parameter error. So can i use this option?

[Sirber]

i want to use the level option of x264 in FFmpeg and i tried as level=5.1 but it shows parameter error. So can i use this option?

I have no clue, best ask in this forum (http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=77).

[Alex_080]

Thanks Sirber i found..here is the script for anime i m using now.

coder=1
flags=+loop
cmp=+chroma
partitions=+parti8x8+parti4x4+partp8x8+partp4x4+partb8x8
me_method=umh
subq=9
me_range=20
level=51
g=300
keyint_min=25
sc_threshold=40
i_qfactor=0.71
b_strategy=1
psy_rd=0.00
aq_mode=2
aq_strength=0.50
qcomp=0.6
qmin=10
qmax=51
qdiff=4
deblockalpha=1
deblockbeta=1
bf=16
refs=9
directpred=3
trellis=2
flags2=+bpyramid+mixed_refs+wpred+dct8x8-fastpskip
wpredp=2
rc_lookahead=50

[Sirber]

beware that bencos's installer will overwrite the preset you modded next time you update.
I'll add a preset named "custom" what will not be overwritten so you can upgrade safely.

[Alex_080]

beware that bencos's installer will overwrite the preset you modded next time you update.
ok Sirber for now i will make a backup copy of this present.
Are u going to add some filters like denoise,sharpen etc.

[Sirber]

Are u going to add some filters like denoise,sharpen etc.

very unlikely.
the source files are supposed to be already filtered.

[Alex_080]

In some files(*.mkv) (now only 3 files shows like this) the video analysis and encoding done perfectly but when audio extraction start this error shows.
it only happen when audio extracting starts but if i do not click on ok then encoding done successfully.Is this my PC problem?
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5278/88639852.jpg

[Sirber]

could be a bug in ffmpeg, try updating the build: http://ffmpeg.arrozcru.org/autobuilds/
you can right-click on the file in the list, "info" in the menu, then you can see what's inside the mkv (codecs, streams, etc).

[MajorX]

can i use aviscript(.avs) file as input file in new bencos?

[Alex_080]

@MajorX
can i use aviscript(.avs) file as input file in new bencos?

i m not expert in use of avs file but i do some test with new bencos and i think it support avs file with avisynth plugins.
i use this script..


LoadPlugin("C:\tools\avisynth_plugin\FluxSmooth.dll")
DirectShowSource("C:\Sample.mkv", fps=23.976, audio=true, convertfps=true)
FluxSmoothST(temporal_threshold=7, spatial_threshold=7)

Bencos encode it successfully without any error.But it can't keep the same DAR of output file as in input file.Like the input file have DAR 16:9 but output file have DAR 3:2.
Also there no subtitle in output file.

i try this also
LoadPlugin("C:\tools\ffms\ffms2.dll")
FFVideoSource("C:\Sample].mkv")

video analysis and encoding done correctly but it shows error when audio extraction start..i don't how add audio in this.

[Sirber]

there might not be a release in the coming few days, I have to move a lot of code to make the GUI multi-threaded, and keep the single-threaded part working (the current encoding chain).

[Sirber]

I managed to run ffmpeg inside a thread, but when I start it with "poUsePipes" ffmpeg hangs and output no text, nor encode. Also, the loop "while oCli.Running" seems not working, the thread gets terminated and the process is still running.

what a pain..

[edit]

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1458222#post1458222

[edit 2]

@ckmox looks like you've been through that lol:
http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,10922.0.html

[ckmox]

I managed to run ffmpeg inside a thread, but when I start it with "poUsePipes" ffmpeg hangs and output no text, nor encode. Also, the loop "while oCli.Running" seems not working, the thread gets terminated and the process is still running.

what a pain..

@ckmox looks like you've been through that lol:
http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,10922.0.html

ye the horror days, took me like 3 days to run that TThread
just a hint though dont call the main forms TProcess on TThread Execute method/area for example dont do it like this frmMain.oCli.Running instead make a TProcess variable for TThread

one thing i learn is never call frmMain things inside the TThread Execute method/area if you want to call some frmMain parts just make a procedure on TThread and that call Synchronize to it

you can look at the code of cyko on the execute method/area of TThread to know more that i didnt use any frmMain parts on it

if your worried about initializing variables just do it before TThread.Resume command for example the resume command for tthread is part of this procedure (scanThread is the TThread variable in the following)


procedure TfrmMain.btnEnqueueClick(Sender: TObject);
begin
scanThread := TMyThread.Create(True);
scanThread.FreeOnTerminate:=True;
scanThread.venString := '';
scanThread.x264String := '';
scanThread.ii:= 0;
scanThread.strScan := TStringlist.Create;
scanThread.strScan.AddStrings(lstAdd.Items);
scanThread.sPro := TProcess.Create(nil);
scanThread.M := TMemoryStream.Create;
scanThread.BytesRead := 0;
scanThread.audioCount := 0;
scanThread.OnTerminate:=@ScanDone;
scanThread.Resume;
end;


and ye this question thread of mine is the one help me a lot http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,10922.msg54512.html
i recommend to pay attention more on theo's replies there

EDIT:

this could be helpful too -> http://www.mediafire.com/?9e9g3sbhxxmeeqg
its a program where i practice how to code the TThread named ScanThread

[Sirber]

the thread seems to run fine, the only problem I had is ffmpeg hang if I use "poUsePipes" inside the thread.

[Alex_080]

Can i adjust Display aspect ratio(DAR) in new bencos ....like i want to change 4:3 to 16:9.

[Sirber]

Can i adjust Display aspect ratio(DAR) in new bencos ....like i want change 4:3 to 16:9.

not yet, I'll add the setting.

[edit]

looks like it's the "-aspect" flag, aka "-aspect 4:3" or "-aspect 16:9"

[Alex_080]

not yet, I'll add the setting.

ok thanks Sirber i will wait.can i encode a video file that contain no audio track? i do some test and i get some error 'Output file #0 does not contain any stream'.can it mux only video file after encoding video if it not find any audio track?

[Sirber]

ok thanks Sirber i will wait.can i encode a video file that contain no audio track? i do some test and i get some error 'Output file #0 does not contain any stream'.can it mux only video file after encoding video if it not find any audio track?

not yet. the system is hardcoded for video + audio. the "source stream detection" is on the todo.

[Veterinar]

Today I've noticed Bencos PUTS HARDSUBS in video! OMG!

More detailed, when given .mkv with clean video and one or several sub streams, it makes video stream with hard subs in it.

How do I switch this behavior off?

[Sirber]

Today I've noticed Bencos PUTS HARDSUBS in video! OMG!

More detailed, when given .mkv with clean video and one or several sub streams, it makes video stream with hard subs in it.

How do I switch this behavior off?

Last time I tryed it they were softsubs in the output (source: mkv with softsubs). Could you verify again? Di you have VSFilter loaded?

[Veterinar]

More than verify, I just have this pile of .mp4 files with hardsubs and MediaInfo to inspect their insides.

Don't know anything about VSFilter, I just run Bencos and start encoding.

I got a suspect: it happens if subs stream in .mkv source was marked as 'default'.

[Sirber]

More than verify, I just have this pile of .mp4 files with hardsubs and MediaInfo to inspect their insides.

Don't know anything about VSFilter, I just run Bencos and start encoding.

I got a suspect: it happens if subs stream in .mkv source was marked as 'default'.

can you make me a screenshot (whitout files in it) with the settings you used? I'd loved to be able to "hardsub" :)

[Veterinar]

Nothing unusual, I just set 'Keep encoding' and 'Slow audio extr' and that's all.

[Sirber]

Nothing unusual, I just set 'Keep encoding' and 'Slow audio extr' and that's all.

time to upgrade ;)

http://code.google.com/p/bencos/downloads/detail?name=BENCOS_20101114_dev.exe

[edward666]

Hi i have trouble with bencos 20101105 no audio extraction or encoding and when its merging video to mp4 it always says error please help...

[Sirber]

Hi i have trouble with bencos 20101105 no audio extraction or encoding and when its merging video to mp4 it always says error please help...

You need an audio stream in your source file with this dev build.

[edward666]

Hi again do you know why mp4BOX stops working????

It says "error#-1073740791"

Thanks...

[Sirber]

Hi again do you know why mp4BOX stops working????

It says "error#-1073740791"

Thanks...

That's an "Access Violation". You could try another build of MP4Box (http://kurtnoise.free.fr/mp4tools/).

[Veterinar]

Thank you Author, your dev build works just right. Hardsubbing problem solved.

[Sirber]

new build: http://code.google.com/p/bencos/

updated ffmpeg and mp4box, fixed the bitrate for nero (aac lc and he), new "aspect ratio" option.

[Alex_080]

Thanks Sirber for new dev version.

I face some error like this can u tell me why...

No valid SBR configuration found

i use following audio setting(without neroAacEnc)
AAC HE+PS
48

[Sirber]

Thanks Sirber for new dev version.

I face some error like this can u tell me why...



i use following audio setting(without neroAacEnc)
AAC HE+PS
48

is 32 working? gonna try 48..

[Sirber]

48kbps worked (whitout nero) (build 2010-12-22 dev).

[Sirber]

added audio detection :)

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1326/bencosnoaudio.png

currently testing..

[Sirber]

new build:

http://code.google.com/p/bencos/downloads/detail?name=BENCOS_20101229_dev.exe


* Compiled with Lazarus 0.9.31 (FPC 2.4.3 win32)
* added: analyze the source with ffprobe
* fixed: broken cmdline for MP4 output


important: from this build you can encode someting that doesn't have audio.

[Alex_080]

Thanks Sirber for new dev version.
I have the same problem with audio.
without neroAacEnc
No valid SBR configuration found
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4986/errordw.jpg

With neroAacEnc
ERROR: Unsupported encoding configuration
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7531/nerot.jpg

Here is the Sample file:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U8XCI9MS

[Sirber]

seems like the audio fails to extract.. I'm getting your source.

[Sirber]

Stream #0.2(eng): Audio: aac, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16

it's a 5.1 source, and the audio encoder can only do 2.0 with AAC HE and AAC HE+PS. You must use AAC LC for multi-channel audio. I'll try to add a "6to2" downsample in the next release. Also, 128kbps AAC LC 5.1 channel sounds like cr*p :). I'll add 192kbps.

[edit]

ffmpeg cannot downmix (5.1 -> 2.0). You'll have to use AAC LC with a high bitrate.

[edit 2]

faac (1.28) fails to encode 6channels, but it works with nero. I'll remove FAAC and use ffmpeg instead.

[edit 3]

this update will take some time.. I'll update the whole audio part to pipe ffmpeg to the other encoders, so I'll only have 1 step (encoding) instead of extracting then encoding.

[dud]

Using the 101229_dev build batch encoding seems broken, just stops after one file unlike the previous build. I can press start again and it goes to the next file on the list.

[Sirber]

Using the 101229_dev build batch encoding seems broken, just stops after one file unlike the previous build. I can press start again and it goes to the next file on the list.

Using 20101229dev, both files in the queue encoded successfully. Sorry, I cannot reproduce your problem.

[Sirber]

new release:

v 20110104 dev
* Compiled with Lazarus 0.9.31 (FPC 2.4.3 win32)
* added: making place for a 64bit version (ffmpeg)
* added: more bitrate for AAC LC (192kbps, 256kbps) for 5.1 audio
* added: checkbox to force stereo (for 5.1 sources)
* fixed: audio extracting force 2 channels (ffmpeg's -ac 2) (bug #5)
* fixed: vorbis bitrate selection (-b --> -q)
* fixed: uninstaller
* updated: ffmpeg (static --> shared), oggenc2

download (http://code.google.com/p/bencos/downloads/detail?name=BENCOS_20110104_dev.exe)

[edit]

warning: audio seems broken.

[edit2]

fixed and reuploaded.

[johnsonlam]

and linux ;)

How about an option to Windows users?
Nero AAC did perform good!

[Sirber]

How about an option to Windows users?
Nero AAC did perform good!

What do you mean? an option

[Sirber]

audio is OK in the latest release. the log window has a duplicate entry, I'll fix that soon.

[edward666]

Im a noob at this and i have a problem with BENCOS_20101105 skips the audio extraction and encoding... you said i needed an audio stream how do i do that?? need your help Thanks...

http://i52.tinypic.com/2ithe6d.jpg

[flebber]

edward666 what release are you using, there is a new release posted just up the page, have you tried that?

[Sirber]

you are using v2010-01-30, update :)

[edward666]

yeah i tried the dev version above v 20110104 but it runs incredibly slow on my pc in encodes at 3 fps and in the bencos 20101105 in encdes at 30 fps...

[Sirber]

both version doesn't have the same encoding options and won't produce the same quality. Choose "MQ" or "LQ" in the newer release.

[edit]

I'm wondering.. is bencos.exe using CPU while encoding on your PC?

[Alex_080]

i have done some test on 5.1 channel audio file but i face audio problem.....help

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9250/errorjh.jpg

C:\Program Files\Bencos\faac.exe -o "C:\DOCUME~1\Age080\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/audio.mp4""C:\DOCUME~1\Age080\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/audio.wav" -b 128

Freeware Advanced Audio Coder
FAAC 1.28

Usage: C:\Program Files\Bencos\faac.exe [options] [-o outfile] infiles ...

<infiles> and/or <outfile> can be "-", which means stdin/stdout.

See also:
"C:\Program Files\Bencos\faac.exe --help" for short help on using FAAC
"C:\Program Files\Bencos\faac.exe --long-help" for a description of all options for FAAC.
"C:\Program Files\Bencos\faac.exe --license" for the license terms for FAAC.





Sample:http://www.mediafire.com/?plovqp1hm7tgrnz

[Sirber]

sorry, gonna fix it ASAP.

[edit]

try: http://code.google.com/p/bencos/downloads/detail?name=bencos_bin_20100105.7z

[Sirber]

On the todo now:
* Encode by file size
* Multi track (audio)
* Web view (basic, online, to see the main log + realtime status text)

[Alex_080]

With neroAacEnc it work perfectly but without it i got an error like
C:\Program Files\Bencos\faac.exe -b 192-o "C:\DOCUME~1\Age080\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/audio.mp4""C:\DOCUME~1\Age080\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/audio.wav"

C:\DOCUME~1\Age080\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/audio.mp4"C:\DOCUME~1\Age080\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/audio.wav
: Invalid argument
Freeware Advanced Audio Coder
FAAC 1.28

Couldn't open input file C:\DOCUME~1\Age080\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/audio.mp4"C:\DOCUME~1\Age080\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/audio.wav


Source = 6 channel
I use AAC LC 192

Is there no way to downmix 6channel to 2 channel... i want to use AAC HE+PS/64 with normalization for small size encoding.

[Sirber]

http://code.google.com/p/bencos/issues/detail?id=5

5.1 encoding works now with AAC LC and Vorbis. ffmpeg cannot downmix proprely 5.1 to 2.0.
I'm making a release..

[edit]

http://code.google.com/p/bencos/downloads/detail?name=BENCOS_20110106_dev.exe

[Sirber]

Bug: Vorbis quality mapping is wrong.

http://code.google.com/p/bencos/issues/detail?id=7

[ckmox]

just curious since your using ffmpeg for most of the encoding does ffmpeg handles VFR content well like handbrakeCLI is?

and can you add CRF mode of encoding?

[edward666]

Yeah it uses 100% of the cpu, its an old processor it takes like 40 min to convert a 24 min video... i was wonderinf isnt there an mp4 output option instead of matroska in the new dev??

[Sirber]

just curious since your using ffmpeg for most of the encoding does ffmpeg handles VFR content well like handbrakeCLI is?

and can you add CRF mode of encoding?

I don't know, best ask ffmpeg's devs.

Yeah it uses 100% of the cpu, its an old processor it takes like 40 min to convert a 24 min video... i was wonderinf isnt there an mp4 output option instead of matroska in the new dev??

I ment bencos (cpu usage), not ffmpeg.
I currently "force" mkv output for subtitle support. It will change later on.

[Sirber]

there won't be any new build for some time. I'm working on "encode by filesize" and a better subtitle management, and it's breaking my encoding chain.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6396/bencos20110106dev.png

[edward666]

Oh... when i run bencos no there isnt any cpu usage, only when its doing a job...

[Sirber]

Oh... when i run bencos no there isnt any cpu usage, only when its doing a job...

When bencos is running a job, is bencos.exe using any cpu?

[Sirber]

nice!! the "encode by filesize" is working! :D

source: 7 minutes (55sec). (I only calculate HH:MM so far, should add SS)
asked: 20 MB
audio bitrate: 32kbps

calculated video bitrate: 358kbps

[edit]

output MKV: 22.1MB, 10.5% larger

[edit 2]

with the seconds added:
calculated video bitrate: 314kbps

output MKV: 19.6MB

:D

[Sirber]

new release:

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/cms/?p=66

[Alex_080]

Thanks for new dev version .
where is start button!
One thing is it possible to add Source and Quality in different tab like filesize and bitrate.(like old bencos)

[Sirber]

where is start button!

In the File menu :)

One thing is it possible to add Source and Quality in different tab like filesize and bitrate.(like old bencos)

Separate ffmpeg's preset in codec and quality?

[Alex_080]

I mean Source tab contain like Anime, Movies..etc and Quality tab contain like HQ,MQ,LQ. I know current present are best and they must be in bencos. Bencos contain present like x264/HQ/MQ/LQ. I just want to know is it possible sort these present in tab mean when i select HQ it select x264HQ present.Like this if i select source as anime and Quality as HQ it select present x264/anime/HQ. Anime presents are different from Live Action present in some parameters(in deblock,psy_rd,aq). if it is possible then it looks nice and easy to use.

[Sirber]

I mean Source tab contain like Anime, Movies..etc and Quality tab contain like HQ,MQ,LQ. I know current present are best and they must be in bencos ..In bencos contain like x264/HQ/MQ/LQ. I just want to know is it possible sort these present in tab mean when i select HQ it select x264HQ present.Like this if i select source as anime and Quality as HQ it select present x264/anime/HQ. Anime presents are different from Like Action present in some parameters(in deblock,psy_rd,aq). if it is possible then it looks nice and easy to use.

Sure, it's possible. Adding to todo (http://code.google.com/p/bencos/wiki/changelog#todo).

[edward666]

Sorry i couldent reply sooner... the bencos batch encoder is 00 - 01 cpu usage mostly 00

[Alex_080]

i face error at muxing.

http://imageupload.org/?di=112948221121

C:\Program Files\Bencos\mkvtoolnix/mkvmerge.exe -o "c:\Sample.mkv"
"C:\DOCUME~1\Alex\LOCALS~1\Temp\bencos\video.mkv"
"C:\DOCUME~1\Alex\LOCALS~1\Temp\bencos\audio.mp4"
"C:\DOCUME~1\Alex\LOCALS~1\Temp\bencos\subtitle.mkv"

mkvmerge v4.4.0 ('Die Wiederkehr') built on Oct 31 2010 21:52:48


Error: The source file 'C:\DOCUME~1\Alex\LOCALS~1\Temp\bencos\subtitle.mkv' could not be opened successfully, or retrieving its size by seeking to the end did not work.

[Sirber]

Sorry i couldent reply sooner... the bencos batch encoder is 00 - 01 cpu usage mostly 00

ok,no problem. CPU usage is normal :)
maybe your PC isn't fast enough for the new profiles.

i face error at muxing.

http://imageupload.org/?di=112948221121

Same sample with 5.1 audio? what filesize is subtitle.mkv?

[Alex_080]

Info about Sample:
Format : Matroska
File size : 5.02 MiB
Duration : 57s 962ms
Overall bit rate : 726 Kbps
Movie name : Divergence Eve Ep02
Encoded date : UTC 2011-01-14 13:27:15
Writing application : mkvmerge v4.4.0 ('Die Wiederkehr') built on Oct 31 2010 21:52:48
Writing library : libebml v1.0.0 + libmatroska v1.0.0

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L5.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 8 frames
Muxing mode : Header stripping
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 57s 949ms
Width : 704 pixels
Height : 400 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.940 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : HE-AACv2 / HE-AAC / LC
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 57s 962ms
Channel(s) : 2 channels / 1 channel / 1 channel
Channel positions : Front: L R / Front: C / Front: C
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz / 48.0 KHz / 24.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : 20ms
Language : English

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : HE-AACv2 / HE-AAC / LC
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 57s 962ms
Channel(s) : 2 channels / 1 channel / 1 channel
Channel positions : Front: L R / Front: C / Front: C
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz / 48.0 KHz / 24.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : 20ms
Language : Japanese

Text #1
ID : 4
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Title : Song and Sign Subtitles
Language : English

Text #2
ID : 5
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Title : English Subtitles
Language : English

size of subtitle.mkv is 792bytes.

[Sirber]

looks like subs didn't extract correctly (file should be bigger).

[edit]

testing..

[Sirber]

fixed.

http://i51.tinypic.com/s5by1x.png

output:

http://i56.tinypic.com/20p4mtu.png

[Sirber]

New build: 2011-01-17

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/cms/?p=70

[Alex_080]

great it works :). It set the subtitle as default subtitle.
Thanks Sirber.
one request ...can u bring back the Start button?

[Sirber]

great it works :). It set the subtitle as default subtitle.
The language selection works too. The bug was a missing space (" ") in the cmdline.

one request ...can u bring back the Start button?

I thought the "menu bar" would look cleaner, and with it I can add more actions.

[Sirber]

It's not bencos-related but arrozcru won't update ffmpeg win32 builds (http://ffmpeg.arrozcru.org/autobuilds/) anymore. :(

[Sirber]

ZEYsoft proposed a patch: http://www.detritus.qc.ca/cms/?p=72

[Alex_080]

Hi Sirber
Oh....Is this affect bencos development process?

Today i encode a video file which have two english subtitle like 1:English OP/ED/Titles(Default) 2: Main English Subtitles...when i m encoding with bencos it only add first subtitle that is OP/ED not both. Can it possible to add both english subtitle?

Can u find a way how to correctly encode 5.1 channel audio with 32Kbs AAC HE+PS.

[Sirber]

Hi Sirber
Oh....Is this affect bencos development process?

you must be talking about ffmpeg. Well, it shouldn't affect bencos, but ffmpeg will be just updated less frequently.

Today i encode a video file which have two english subtitle like 1:English OP/ED/Titles(Default) 2: Main English Subtitles...when i m encoding with bencos it only add first subtitle that is OP/ED not both. Can it possible to add both english subtitle?

Should work in the next relase with ZEYsoft' improvements.

Can u find a way how to correctly encode 5.1 channel audio with 32Kbs AAC HE+PS.

Impossible whitout downmixing to stereo, and this doesn't work with ffmpeg.

[Sirber]

some errors in multi-audio handling (svn r135):

http://i51.tinypic.com/27y6qe.png

in %temp% I have "audio.ogg" instead of "audio0.ogg" and "audio1.ogg":

http://i52.tinypic.com/ohl9jp.png

[edit]

code should work...
sAudioOut := '"' + sTemp + 'audio' + IntToStr(iCount) + '.ogg"';

[Alex_080]

I found a post on net that contain Downsampling (5.1) into stereo (2 channels) with ffmpeg.... i don't know it's working or not ...so if u have time just check this.

http://muzso.hu/2009/02/25/downsampling-multichannel-audio-5.1-into-stereo-2-channels-with-ffmpeg

Other Links:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=152034&highlight=Audio+up%2Fdownmix+SoX

http://www.howto-pages.org/ffmpeg/
http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2008-May/046633.html
http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2008-August/052480.html
https://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=14084#p68702

[Sirber]

unfortunatly I don't compile ffmpeg myself, so I cannot add patches.

sox
that could work!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoX

[Sirber]

new release: http://www.detritus.qc.ca/cms/?p=77

please have a look at the changelog. changes by ZEYsoft.

still having issues with 5.1 audio.

[Alex_080]

Thanks for new dev version.
Are u try with sox..is it working or not?

Edit:
Excellent work Sirber..the new version work perfectly without any error.Today i test with some file and it encode correctly with all subtitles.

One thing the Shortcut for MKV Merge is not working?
can u fix this.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/655/79788333.jpg

[Sirber]

Thanks for new dev version.
Are u try with sox..is it working or not?

Didn't have time yet. It's in the todo.

http://code.google.com/p/bencos/issues/detail?id=13

Edit:
Excellent work Sirber..the new version work perfectly without any error.Today i test with some file and it encode correctly with all subtitles.

Thanks ZEYSOft ;) he made the changes in the latest buils.

One thing the Shortcut for MKV Merge is not working?
can u fix this.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/655/79788333.jpg

I think it's an old shortcut. It's not in the installer anymore.
You should edit it manually.

[Alex_080]

ok Sirber
5.1 channel issue is not a big problem take u r time to fix this.

[Sirber]

5.1 channel issue is not a big problem take u r time to fix this.

in the next release (probably today) Sample.mkv gets encoded with all audio track downsampled to 2.0 (if 5.1 audio) and normalized. :)

[edit]

5.1 -> 2.0 tracks have a lower audio quality than already stereo ones, at 32kbps..

[Sirber]

new release: http://www.detritus.qc.ca/cms/?p=79

major changes: 5.1 audio gets downmixed to Dolby ProLogic II.

[Alex_080]

Thanks Sirber
I will test it today and tell u how it work.

[Alex_080]

Hi Sirber
5.1 audio issue solved.It Works fine.Thanks
Today i face some error while encoding.
I have a video with two audio track but while encoding with bencos ..it can't detect audio tracks..it shows zero.
Here is the video (Full):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K3QDFVKA

[Sirber]

Hi Sirber
5.1 audio issue solved.It Works fine.Thanks
Today i face some error while encoding.
I have a video with two audio track but while encoding with bencos ..it can't detect audio tracks..it shows zero.
Here is the video (Full):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K3QDFVKA

ffprobe doesn't show all the informations about it, could be a corrupt source or a broken ffmpeg.

[Sirber]

what do you think about this feature idea?

http://code.google.com/p/bencos/issues/detail?id=15

[Sharktooth]

you know, every re-encoding is causing quality drops. also, every encoder produces it's typical artifact no matter how low the quantizer is (unless it's lossless) that will be amplified in a subsequent encode.

[Sirber]

true... bad idea :)

[Alex_080]

Hi Sirber
Bencos works nicely.
Any update to new Bencos or it's components? Can u add an option by which pc can be automatically turn off after finishing encoding.
Any news about combobox?

[Sirber]

Bencos works nicely.
Excellent :)

Any update to new Bencos or it's components?

Any news about combobox?

Not yet... I don't have much free time these days... :(
Probably next winter :)

Can u add an option by which pc can be automatically turn off after finishing encoding.

Please use the feature request page (http://code.google.com/p/bencos/issues/entry?template=Feature%20request%20from%20user).

[ckmox]

@Sirber

ffmpeg has preset and tune options now for x264 options


May 3, 2011
FFmpeg now accesses x264 presets via libx264. This extends functionality by introducing several new libx264 options including -preset, -tune, and -profile. You can read more detailed information about these options with "x264 --fullhelp".

The syntax has changed so be sure to update your commands. Example:
ffmpeg -i input -vcodec libx264 -preset fast -tune film -profile main -crf 22 -threads 0 output

source ffmpeg news area -> http://www.ffmpeg.org/


so just a heads up if you want to code it and remove those text file presets files (.ffpreset text files)

[Sirber]

thank you! gonna update the gui :)

[Sirber]

http://code.google.com/p/bencos/issues/detail?id=21

[Sirber]

new user interface coming: http://www.detritus.qc.ca/cms/?p=104

[Alex_080]

new user interface coming: http://www.detritus.qc.ca/cms/?p=104

Wow! Sirber it looks much better than previous one.I just can't wait for this new version.

[Sirber]

Wow! Sirber it looks much better than previous one.I just can't wait for this new version.

I'm currently testing it, if everything goes well I'll release it tomorrow.

[tuqueque]

Any news on Webm encoding?... I'd like to know if next build will include any of the "Bali" developments.

Thanks for your work!

[fantasmanegro]

well i really like the first interface than this new one, but you are the developer.

good luck!

[Sirber]

Any news on Webm encoding?... I'd like to know if next build will include any of the "Bali" developments.

Thanks for your work!

I use ffmpeg to encode to x264 and vp8. I'm not aware of the development of the libs used by ffmpeg, sorry.

[Sirber]

new release: http://www.detritus.qc.ca/cms/?p=108

[Sirber]

VP8 encoding is broken. Second pass does nothing.
http://code.google.com/p/bencos/issues/detail?id=23

[Alex_080]

Hi Sirber i have some problem with new version pls help...when i click start it shows ffmpeg.exe error.

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h374/Age080/error.jpg

[Sirber]

Sample.mkv is corrupt. Encode something real :)

[Alex_080]

i try with other files but same error occur....also i test that sample file with previous version of bencos and it encode perfectly.

http://www.up.egyup.com/images/42039006286813321296.png

[Sirber]

unsupported codec? what's input stream 8?

[Alex_080]

I have same error with other files too.
Pls check with this sample file: http://demo.ovh.com/download/964362bd821c68ae7a40c15054594bd7/Sample.mkv

It works fine with previous version but shows error in this new version. :(

[nanyatimz]

Hmm, can this bencos show it's preset? does it use 2pass like the old RA6? I think it's better if you just improve RA6.. :p

[Sirber]

I have same error with other files too.
Pls check with this sample file: http://demo.ovh.com/download/964362bd821c68ae7a40c15054594bd7/Sample.mkv

It works fine with previous version but shows error in this new version. :(

newer version ffmpeg might dislike it. run it manually:

cmd.exe
ffmpeg.exe -i sample.mkv -vcodec libx264 -y sample2.mkv

[Sirber]

Hmm, can this bencos show it's preset? does it use 2pass like the old RA6? I think it's better if you just improve RA6.. :p

Every gui I make are using 2pass VBR encoding.
Previous versions of bencos (and realanime) were using hand-made presets (by me). Latest bencos is using x264 built-in presets. More infos here: http://code.google.com/p/bencos/issues/detail?id=21&can=1

BTW RealAnime 6 is a fork of Bencos. In 2007, bencos didn't run well on Vista. Now it's all good, since 2 years. Forget about RA6 :p

[nanyatimz]

Siber-san, hmm I am experiencing error on encoding mkv codec from animetake(original sources around 300mb etc etc) when I encode it, some ffmpeg.exe error appears.. so how to solve this?

[Sirber]

Siber-san, hmm I am experiencing error on encoding mkv codec from animetake(original sources around 300mb etc etc) when I encode it, some ffmpeg.exe error appears.. so how to solve this?

you could try updating ffmpeg:
http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/ under "32-bit Builds (Shared)"
then extract it to: C:\Program Files (x86)\Bencos\ffmpeg_win32

[nanyatimz]

Thanks for the fast response sirber-san.. :p

[nanyatimz]

?? Hmm. still got an error even I did download the latest ffmpeg.. extracted it at bencos folder but still error..

[Sirber]

mmmm sorry man, nothing I can do. You could go to an older version of bencos. Newer ffmpeg versions seems to have troubles with malformed h264 stream.

[Sirber]

new release: http://www.detritus.qc.ca/cms/?p=110

[Alex_080]

i got same error with this new version.....it unable to encode *.mkv files(ffmpeg error)...but it can encode other video file like *.avi, *.flv but it shows audio error :No valid SBR configuration found

[Sirber]

your mkv has a h264 stream?

for audio what was your configuration (asked codec, bitrate) and the source (codec, bitrate)?

[Mr901]

any way to add a text watermark with this program ?

cuz stax is giving me issues right now but this does the job, like so

applyrange(0,250,"Subtitle","my watermark here",5,5,0,99999,"Century",20)

[Sirber]

any way to add a text watermark with this program ?

Nope, bencos isn't using AVISynth. The source is fed to ffmpeg directly.

[Mr901]

Oh okay thanks.

[MajorX]

i got this error pls help,

C:\Program Files\Bencos\sox/sox.exe -S -V "C:\DOCUME~1\MAX\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/audio.wav" "C:\DOCUME~1\MAX\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/audio_sox.wav" remix -m 1v0.3254,3v0.2301,5v0.2818,6v0.1627 2v0.3254,3v0.2301,5v-0.1627,6v-0.2818 norm

C:\Program Files\Bencos\sox/sox.exe: SoX v14.3.1
C:\Program Files\Bencos\sox/sox.exe INFO formats: detected file format type `wav'

Input File : 'C:\DOCUME~1\MAX\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/audio.wav'
Channels : 2
Sample Rate : 48000
Precision : 16-bit
Duration : 00:00:50.18 = 2408448 samples ~ 3763.2 CDDA sectors
File Size : 9.63M
Bit Rate : 1.54M
Sample Encoding: 16-bit Signed Integer PCM
Endian Type : little
Reverse Nibbles: no
Reverse Bits : no

C:\Program Files\Bencos\sox/sox.exe INFO sox: Overwriting `C:\DOCUME~1\MAX\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/audio_sox.wav'

Output File : 'C:\DOCUME~1\MAX\LOCALS~1\Temp/bencos/audio_sox.wav'
Channels : 2
Sample Rate : 48000
Precision : 16-bit
Duration : 00:00:50.18 = 2408448 samples ~ 3763.2 CDDA sectors
Sample Encoding: 16-bit Signed Integer PCM
Endian Type : little
Reverse Nibbles: no
Reverse Bits : no
Comment : 'Processed by SoX'

C:\Program Files\Bencos\sox/sox.exe FAIL remix: too few input channels

[Sirber]

i got this error pls help,

looks like bencos thinks your source is 6 channel, while sox thinks it's 2.

please post your issue here:http://code.google.com/p/bencos/issues/entry

as well as the infos of your source.

[MajorX]

posted.
pls can add an option to use custom settings for encoding?

[Sirber]

posted.
pls can add an option to use custom settings for encoding?

same link, create a new "feature request" :)

[MajorX]

same link, create a new "feature request" :)

request added. Is this version of BENCOS GUI support multi threaded?

[Sirber]

request added. Is this version of BENCOS support multi threaded encoding?

Well, ffmpeg does. :)

[MajorX]

when i m encoding with 2-pass the 1st pass runs too slow than the 2nd pass...why? i use Medium present.

[Sirber]

when i m encoding with 2-pass the 1st pass runs too slow than the 2nd pass...why? i use Medium present.

mmm I'll verify the 1pass settings

http://code.google.com/p/bencos/issues/detail?id=44

[Sirber]

I'm currently upgrading the GUI/encoder to be multi-threaded, so I might not fix bugs or update bencos for a little while.

http://code.google.com/p/bencos/source/browse/trunk/uencoder.pas

[ckmox]

I'm currently upgrading the GUI/encoder to be multi-threaded, so I might not fix bugs or update bencos for a little while.

http://code.google.com/p/bencos/source/browse/trunk/uencoder.pas

nice and hope you succeed in it so that i can rest my little program named cyko

and btw if your taking up request once you finish multi-threading bencos then i suggest CRF encoding to be added and FLAC audio encoding with SoX

i know freepascal TProcess does not accept piping but here is a command line im using to encode FLAC audio to vorbis and downmix the channel to mono
sox input.flac -t wav -c 1 - | ffmpeg -i - -acodec libvorbis -aq -1.0 -y output.ogg

and also can you give an option to always encode audio to mono and quality base instead of bitrate? because the lower the audio channels the lower the file size you can get especially when your using quality base audio encoding

[Sirber]

for vorbis I use quality (-2 to 10 iirc). I display bitrate (equivalent) in the GUI.

[Sirber]

Working on DS Backup (http://www.detritus.qc.ca/cms/?page_id=140) (VB#), it took me 30 minutes having the GUI multi-threaded... thinking of moving bencos to VB#... ;)

[clone83]

Hi Sirber, are you able to add a feature to bencos to add no subs to the encode? and enable .ass and .ssa in to the subs as well?

cheers

[Sirber]

Hi Sirber, are you able to add a feature to bencos to add no subs to the encode? and enable .ass and .ssa in to the subs as well?

cheers

bencos doesn't look around the source file for subs.
This could be done but I'm thinking of moving on another project.

[MajorX]

any update??

[Sirber]

no.....

[clone83]

what project are u moving on to...?

[Sirber]

what project are u moving on to...?

I'm currently working on a backup too, and after that I might rewrite bencos in vb.net (RealAnime 7 ;)). I'm a bit bored of freepascal... :(

I recently learned how to do threading (in .net) and it's almost a joy :)

[Tushkan]

Planned new version BENCOS work without installation (portable version)?

[Sirber]

Planned new version BENCOS work without installation (portable version)?

Yeah. Temp files goes to "%temp%\bencos" while encoding.

[edit]

Extract the content of the installer exe with 7zip and run in.

[Tushkan]

I want to be able to choose the audio track to encode.
Whether this will be implemented?

[Sirber]

I want to be able to choose the audio track to encode.
Whether this will be implemented?

You can choose one by language. Doesn't work otherwise.

You can always make a feature request (http://code.google.com/p/bencos/issues/entry?template=Feature%20request%20from%20user), but I'm not actively working on bencos... :o

[nanyatimz]

high 10 profile? it's product is still in 8bit.. why? does this feature work?

[Sirber]

high 10 profile? it's product is still in 8bit.. why? does this feature work?

I have no clue. BENCOS only set flags on the encoder (ffmpeg/x264).

[Sirber]

Todo for 2012!

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/cms/?p=223

Can't wait to clean bencos's code, it's a big one-file mess :(

[Sirber]

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/cms/?p=230

[alzou]

waiting RA7 release... :D

[Sirber]

might be a long wait ;)
I'm learning C++ and wxWidgets, still not sure if it's going anywhere ;)

[LoRd_MuldeR]

might be a long wait ;)
I'm learning C++ and wxWidgets, still not sure if it's going anywhere ;)

My suggestion: Go for Qt rather than wxWidgets :D

[Sirber]

My suggestion: Go for Qt rather than wxWidgets :D

I had a quick look at it, with it's QML lanquage. Not sure I like it..

[alzou]

I see u make recode now... thanks a lot

[Sirber]

I see u make recode now... thanks a lot

yes and no.. I'm experimenting ;)

[edward666]

Hello, one question i updated the programs (MP4box, mkvtool, ffmpeg, etc) drag, drop and replace, and at the last step when joining a file i get error, can i update the programs without this happening or should i just leave them as they are?. thanks...

[Sirber]

Hello, one question i updated the programs (MP4box, mkvtool, ffmpeg, etc) drag, drop and replace, and at the last step when joining a file i get error, can i update the programs without this happening or should i just leave them as they are?. thanks...

mp4 or mkv? to be safe update only ffmpeg.

[jofori89]

Hello, one question i updated the programs (MP4box, mkvtool, ffmpeg, etc) drag, drop and replace, and at the last step when joining a file i get error, can i update the programs without this happening or should i just leave them as they are?. thanks...

:readguid: what's the error information :\

[edward666]

Error with MKV

Merging files... error #2

and with MP4 the files says finished but in the output folder there is no file, its empty...

[Sirber]

I cannot say, maybe an error with the encoders and the muxer got an empty file. Try Recode from my website, it's a bit more updated with a simpler toolchain.