The 'Wish List' [merged]

[magic144]

@jdobbs

don't know if this has ever been discussed before,

just wondering if it is easy/possible to select a default audio stream if encoding/retaining more than 1 - e.g. in a foreign language film, perhaps you might choose to make a movie-only backup with a default playback option of the original language soundtrack with English subtitles chosen and enabled???
(or another combination of your choosing, depending on your nationality/languages-of-choice!)

just a thought - don't know how straightforward it would be - it certainly only applies to a small number of films I watch, but being able to define a default setup would be good

[blutach]

You might wish to explore PgcEdit's macro Jump to PGC On DVD Insert (Guide on site). What you do is trace through the DVD but in this case you go to the audio menu first, select the track you want, and return to the main menu before telling the macro to do its stuff.

Nothing happens to the VOBs - it's all in the commands of the IFOs.

Regards

[magic144]

cheers blutach

can you give me a link to the specific guide to which you are referring?

does this technique work even if you are not including/keeping menus (i.e. doing a movie-only build?)

m

[magic144]

Blutach,

I had a quick look at this link

http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/third_party/blutach/How_to_use_PgcEdit_new_macro.htm

and had a run through it,
but I can't quite see how to set the default audio stream/sub stream on insert, without having an audio menu in-place (which I don't have on my movie-only backups)

can you give me some more specific instructions?

cheers

m

[fogelsong]

Magic,

I don't have the answer to your question, but you probably be better off asking in the IFO/VOB Editors forum.

http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=50

[DK]

i have posted some aspects here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=723575#post723575

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

don't know if this has ever been discussed before,

just wondering if it is easy/possible to select a default audio stream if encoding/retaining more than 1 - e.g. in a foreign language film, perhaps you might choose to make a movie-only backup with a default playback option of the original language soundtrack with English subtitles chosen and enabled???
(or another combination of your choosing, depending on your nationality/languages-of-choice!)

just a thought - don't know how straightforward it would be - it certainly only applies to a small number of films I watch, but being able to define a default setup would be goodRemapping audio is already on the list for v1.10 -- not positive which of the (fairly substantial) list will make it in...

[jptheripper]

hmm.. i would love to see that list

hope pal 2 ntsc is at the top!

[Video Dude]

hope pal 2 ntsc is at the top!

Thats the feature I'm hoping for the most, even if its just movie only at first.

[dannyv]

Remapping audio is already on the list for v1.10 -- not positive which of the (fairly substantial) list will make it in...

I hope its at the top of the list. I would love that feature. It would be nice to be able to map a DTS stream as the default stream instead of having to select it on the set top player every time I play it. I know its not DVD spec and people that can't decode DTS would usually get white noice or no sound at all but for my own use it would be nice to be able to do.

[magic144]

as long as the source was progressive, pal2ntsc or vice-versa should be 'reasonably' straightforward (in a movie-only mode) now that DGPulldown is on the scene, no?

[blutach]

Blutach,

I had a quick look at this link

http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/third_party/blutach/How_to_use_PgcEdit_new_macro.htm

and had a run through it,
but I can't quite see how to set the default audio stream/sub stream on insert, without having an audio menu in-place (which I don't have on my movie-only backups)

can you give me some more specific instructions?

cheers

mSee this 2COOL guide - works just as well for audio streams (and you can do it without menus).

http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/third_party/2cool/subtitles/subtitles_on_default_pgcedit.htm

Regards

[blutach]

Speaking of wishlists - I think jdobbs knows my only wish - the ability to easily do a selected title (eg main movie) without compression, and only re-encoding the others (extras, say).

Regards

[DrShrinker]

Support for closed captioning would be awesome

[jdobbs]

CC will is also on the list.

[feedback]

A 2x fast forward in the video segment editor would be nice.

Regards,:)

[Carpo]

I dont know if dvd-rb can already do this - so sorry for posting if it can - but could you add the ability to remove the warning screens (copyright - and the views on this dvd blah blah blah) i know you can blank out most things through the segmant editor - but sometimes these screens are in the video_ts.vob and not sure if dvd-rb looks at this.

This is the only reason i need to run any of my backups thru vob blanker before i let rip with dvd-rb.

[Mr. Monte]

Carpo..have you tried DVDRemakePro?

[Carpo]

ye - but i dont want to use to many progs ;) if i have to learn how to use one prog i forget how to use the other :D

[blutach]

Understood Carpo and hopefully jdobbs will add your request in to round off the package. However, in the short term, you might like to use VobBlanker, which does this very easily.

Regards

[ljpp]

Compressed menus, with adjustments for quality/saving bits...

Optimized, better documented, perhaps automated matrix selection.

[blutach]

ljpp - I am not sniping here, but I feel that, in your request for additional documentation, perhaps you may have overlooked rockas' wonderful help files and indeed the threads here on RME.

If you haven't done so already, do have a good look at them - they are very very informative.

Regards

[2COOL]

See this 2COOL guide - works just as well for audio streams (and you can do it without menus).

http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/third_party/2cool/subtitles/subtitles_on_default_pgcedit.htm
Yes, this guide works perfectly for backups without menus.

For ones that have, I would use the "Jump to PGC upon DVD insert" macro in PgcEdit for setting the streams.

[magic144]

Can I just say thanks for all the references to the guides for using external tools for doing various functions like trimming/cutting intro scenes or setting DVD params like default audio streams or subs

my hope is that one day these functions that can be done by these other programs will one day be available in DVD-RB - as somebody recently said, we don't want to have to learn too many tools, coz we'll forget how to use the other ones! - it would just be nice to have everything under one umbrella

it IS good to know how to do things with the other stuff out there right now - it is my hope (and hopefully one shared by jdobbs) that eventually it won't be necessary

thanks for all your considered input - this community rocks

m

[Carpo]

Understood Carpo and hopefully jdobbs will add your request in to round off the package. However, in the short term, you might like to use VobBlanker, which does this very easily.

Regards

from an earlier post of mine

This is the only reason i need to run any of my backups thru vob blanker before i let rip with dvd-rb.

:D

[ljpp]

Blutach,

I am not thinking about myself, as I don't need them - I am thinking about the Joe Average.

[blutach]

Well, I would hope Joe Average can read rockas's files too. Yes, DVD concepts take a bit of learning, but rockas's help is, IMHO, a very practical guide to DVDRB.

Regards

[laserfan]

I just did a Movie-only "Convert 4:3 Letterbox to 16:9 Anamorphic" on a DVD-5 disc and it worked great. I got the warning "This disc doesn't need to be compressed, do you know what the heck you are doing?" or whatever that dialog says.

This is a small thing, but if DVD-RB could recognize that there was something being done w/Avisynth relative to the conversion (even though that's all that is being done, ie. no shrinkage), and avoid that dialog, it would be less disconcerting, at least for newbies to the program.

BTW I've "discovered" that using DVD43 w/RB turns RB into truly a one-click solution for some discs!

[FredThompson]

I can think of 4 things which would be nice:

1) A user-defined global destination size prior to phase 1 to allow one-button processing to a specified size.

2) User-defined auto-shelling to a support app after phase 1. This would allow running RB-Opt (or a similar helper) automatically.

3) Combined phase 2 and 3. Maybe I missed this in the menus but the only way I see to do it is during batch creation.

4) Updated DGDecode. Given Nan's release this isn't so important any more. Verison 1.1.0 puked on some portions of a PAL disc I have and it's not so friendly with streaming MPEG2.

Why streaming MPEG2? Imagine various DVR sources. Home-made episode collections sometimes need a little reduction or maybe re-encoding to make them "play nice" with hardware DVD players. This would also be a way to make a DVD structure with HD content but fit to a custom size.

Similarly, RB-Opt, or an similar support ap would be nice if it had:

1) DVDShrink-like display with preview and before/after display for each entry. This is incredibly helpful with episodic streaming MPEG2 source. Smaller streams might be set for no re-encoding. Episodes might be set to autofit (a la DVDShrink) or a grouped auto-fit setting based on run length, not original size.

2) Support for sync adjustment.

Why a support ap like RB-Opt? It keeps the DVD-RB code base clean and doesn't necessarily put all the burder on jdobbs.

[FredThompson]

and another...

5) some kind of "I'm still alive" report on complex source. I'm stress testing against LOTR ROTK EE disc 3 with the Nan DGDecode, ProCoder (mixed format source) and AviSynth 2.5.6. It looked like DVD-RB Pro 1.01 died so I killed it. Well, it wasn't dead, there were more than 4,500 items in the working directory. I realize this is not the common nature of a disc. These LOTR and the enhanced Disney discs are the most complex I've ever seen. Still, it would be nice if there was some kind of visible report which shows progress during phase I.

[Carpo]

dvd-rb gives no errors with new avisyth ?

[blutach]

@FredThompson - re (3): I thought this 2 click mode had been implemented by virtue of pressing "rebuild" and not "encode". This takes care of both steps, AFAIK. Or at least this was mentioned.

Very much agree with (2). That way, DVDRB can be used as a master calling prog, putting itself away for the cool peripheral progs. This is a feature I particularly like in PgcEdit.

And agree strongly for (1), although not just for one button.

Regards

[FredThompson]

@Carpo,

No errors with AviSynth 2.5.6 so far. I'm testing vs. LOTR ROTK EE disc 3 right now. 2.5.6 is bugfixes and some new commands. If there's a problem, it would probably be due to unintentional changes in other parts of the build.

Some kind of "proper" support for encoder farms of unlimited size would be nice. The current support app for farms doesn't work with all encoders. Is this really that impertant? No. It just seems a natural function to have in the "core" application.

[jptheripper]

dvdrb farm doesnt work with ilvu atm either

[feedback]

@FredThompson - re (3): I thought this 2 click mode had been implemented by virtue of pressing "rebuild" and not "encode". This takes care of both steps, AFAIK. Or at least this was mentioned.


Regards
blutach is correct. That is the way it works for me.

Hit Rebuild instead of encode and it works like a charm.

RB becomes, in effect, a two click .

Regards,:)

[k2002rahmani]

i may be the only one that cares about this, but I would love to have a TitleWriter implemenation so that the discs can be named from within DVD-RB. Also, DVD Decrypter's actual decryption would be a nice hackable add-on.

[Carpo]

you can name discs if you select the make iso option in dvdrb

[FredThompson]

Compressed menus, with adjustments for quality/saving bits...

Optimized, better documented, perhaps automated matrix selection.This should be easy enough. Wilbert's reply when I asked about folding ColorMatrix into DGDecode:

It's not only possible, but it is already implemented. You have two options:

1) use hints=true. The matrix can change in a clip and hints=true can handle that.

2) specify d2v file. d2v = ... It will read out the d2v for the coefficients.

(1) is slower than (2).

[k2002rahmani]

Naming the disc is not the same as making a title using TitleWriter. That makes it so that the title appears on compatible DVD players, namely the Sony Multidisc Players.

[johnnyquid]

Nothing to important since you can use the segment editor to do it manually but it would be nice to have another mode "menu and extras". Better yet would be to have a mode that made two iso images: one that was "menus and movie" and one that was "menus and extras" in one shot.

[Video Dude]

you can name discs if you select the make iso option in dvdrbI think he was referring to DVD TEXT.

[writersblock29]

@johnnyquid

I had to do Saharra that way within DVD Shrink (Inserting "Video has been removed" frame for the movie on one disk, the extras on the next), so I guess I could second your suggestion; I've found myself creating backups this way more than once.

I'd like the option to insert a frame such as the "Video has been removed" within Rebuilder. I like having such a frame present itself when you select an option which you've removed... keeps you from thinking there's a burning or playback issue months down the line when you actually find enough time to watch your backup. Not a BIG deal, no. But still adds a nice, finished, touch.

That, menu reduction, and perhaps a running time on each VTS (like Shrink uses). I may be repeating others... but those are my votes!

[HKT3020_1]

@johnnyquidI'd like the option to insert a frame such as the "Video has been removed" within Rebuilder. I like having such a frame present itself when you select an option which you've removed... keeps you from thinking there's a burning or playback issue months down the line when you actually find enough time to watch your backup. Not a BIG deal, no. But still adds a nice, finished, touch.

That, menu reduction, and perhaps a running time on each VTS (like Shrink uses). I may be repeating others... but those are my votes!

I don't know if I'm alone but I really don't see the need to insert a frame stating "video has been removed" because in most cases if it is blanked with DVD-RB then if you select a portion that has been blanked the the menu button will move right along avoiding the need to display the frame completely. As for the wish list, I do remember Jdobbs mentioning menu reduction being introduced somwhere along the time of V1.10, but what would be really nice to have is a start from main menu option when blanking extras. :sly:

I'm very pleased with the progress of this program, just last week I ran a great looking backup of Batman Begins and watched it on my 52" HDTV. Long story short, thanks a ton Jdobbs for all your efforts. Like many here, I look forward to whatever added features you include in the future. :thanks:

[FredThompson]

You can use other toolds (DVDShrink, VobBlanker, PGCEdit, etc.) to change the nature of your source before running it through DVD Rebuilder. That's how I, personally, would do a "video removed" static display.

However, why bother? All that will do is take up space and look tacky. You can use PGCEdit to remove buttons and mark segments for removal then purge them with VobBlanker. That's how I get rid of previews and other junk.

jdobbs doesn't want to discuss altered source because mis-use of other tools opens a real can of worms for him. That makes sense.

Still, you might find it helpful to run PGCEdit on each source. Many commercial discs have bad control structures.

--

If encoder-generic farming is introduced, how about a way to set program priority on the farm machines? Maybe a default priority of very low, assigned to the DVD-RB client as well as the encoder to help prevent interferring with other programs which might run on interrupts. (I'm thinking about voice, fax, email, etc. - client programs which wake up and want machine cycles. Sometimes they can't be starved or they get all screwed up.)

[writersblock29]

@FredThompson

I already own and use DVD Remake Pro, which will allow me to remove buttons, strip things, blah-blah-blah. And I already run projects through DVD Shrink for the "Video has been removed" stills. I added the request for being able to add a "Video has been removed" still via DVD Rebuilder because I find it more practical -- and time-saving -- to use 1 program to do everything I need to do; set 'er up, and let 'er go. If Jdobbs doesn't feel that enough people want this feature, that's all fine and good (hell, if he simply doesn't FEEL like adding this feature, more power to him)... I'm not the type of person who complains endlessly about not getting my way. No sleep lost on either side whether this feature's added or not. I, personally, just thought it'd be useful.

Also, the "Video has been removed" stills DON'T use much space; in fact, they usually only occupy the same amount of disk space as an animated menu segment, which Rebuilder currently doesn't touch.

[FredThompson]

Try using a still image in DVD Shrink to replace something big like some of those hideously large preview segments and you'll see it's not just one frame. That's never made any sense to me.

If you already have a way to remove buttons and paths, why would you want a "removed" screen? If you kill the path and content, you won't end up there.

[writersblock29]

@Fred Thompson

[Qouted] "Try using a still image in DVD Shrink to replace something big like some of those hideously large preview segments and you'll see it's not just one frame."

Yeah, it's several. Most of the time, these "Video has been removed" segments are still small enough to ignore, and allow me to process as usual with Rebuilder. In the event that the "removed" segment is still objectionably large, I'll import it into DVD Remake and convert those areas to still (which normally turns it into a TRUE still of around .25MB or so). It's funny how DVD Shrink's author had intended to use stills (and Remake proves that it can, indeed, be done)... but it doesn't work out that way.

[Qouted] "If you already have a way to remove buttons and paths, why would you want a "removed" screen?"

Once again, FredThompson, personal taste. Period, and end of story. Call me anal, but having buttons that you CAN select -- but don't do anything -- bothers me. It's nice to have an explaination when you do select something that you've removed, rather than thinking there's some kind of playback or burning error. (Most of the time, several months have gone by since DOING the backup, to when I finally get to WATCH the backup.) I personally feel that it gives the backup a polished, professional, feel. Having buttons that don't do anything -- to ME -- gives it a half-assed, butchered, feel. Likewise being able to SEE a button that's no longer there and unselectable. I'll let it go when it comes to audio streams that I've removed (I give those the DVD Remake treatment) since that's rarely a menu screen that I'll see; it bugs me, but I'll let it go, since the only other option is reauthoring... and how often would I try selecting a language I don't speak? But -- one more time for effect -- the whole thing is JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION, and something that I, MYSELF, would find useful. You never know if others feel the same if you don't speak out yourself, and apparently you (and HKT3020_1) don't. If Jdobbs doesn't either... cool: You can't please all the people all the time. And if I stand alone in wanting a feature like this, I totally see why it wouldn't be added. Again, it's cool. This thread is about requesting features, and I've made my voice heard. Next subject, please.

[jdobbs]

It's pretty simple to implement so I've added it for the next version as a hidden INI setting. The default will be blanking without text.

The great thing about options is that you can use them if you like them -- and don't if you don't...

[writersblock29]

@Jdobbs

Sweet! Thank you very much!

[FredThompson]

@writersblock29 ,

Chill, dude.