The 'Wish List' [merged]

[FredThompson]

Scrolls bars and no word wrap in the AVS editing window would be nice.

[Edsel]

Unless I'm missing something, a way to automatically handle dvd rom stuff would be good.

Currently, you have to hope the dvd rom files are smaller than the space the disk undersizes to at the end of processing. Which works fine for many disks, but I had a disk recently that had 100megs of dvd rom files, and so had to play trial and error adjusting the sector count in the ini file trying to find the right amount to reduce it by.

I copied the dvd rom files into the directory before processing with Rebuilder, but it didn't take that into account. Doing it that way would be my first choice. Optionally, you could have some sort of menu choice, where you filled in an amount of space in megs to leave on the disk.

[FredThompson]

@Edsel, use RB-Opt after phase I to set your target size. I do this all the time because I put scans of the disc, cover and booklet on there. A lot of the ROM files included on discs are pretty worthless, though. That Actual player and a handful of web pages that are fairly common just waste space.

[jdobbs]

Unless I'm missing something, a way to automatically handle dvd rom stuff would be good.

Currently, you have to hope the dvd rom files are smaller than the space the disk undersizes to at the end of processing. Which works fine for many disks, but I had a disk recently that had 100megs of dvd rom files, and so had to play trial and error adjusting the sector count in the ini file trying to find the right amount to reduce it by.

I copied the dvd rom files into the directory before processing with Rebuilder, but it didn't take that into account. Doing it that way would be my first choice. Optionally, you could have some sort of menu choice, where you filled in an amount of space in megs to leave on the disk. I'll look at a way of reserving space for the "other stuff". Most of the time there is enough space left because the default target size leaves a little head room. I hate to automatically take it into consideration, though, because I think most people would rather use that space for video. Maybe I'll add a "keep other stuff" option?

[feedback]

Right now DVD-RB leaves menus intact. So if you compressed them with Shrink beforehand there is no danger of DVD-RB compressing them again. Just just a forewarning... menu compression will be implemented in the DVD-RB Pro package in the not too distant future, so plan for it.
I was just wondering if the Menu compression option was still on the table, so to speak?

You can read the original post Here. (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=622849&postcount=5)

Regards,:)

[SpazzHH]

And I was wondering about the status of multiple encoders for the same project. You know like CCE for all progressive material and HC or Procoder for all interlaced?

[jdobbs]

@feedback

yes

@SpazzHH

yes

[spyhawk]

@jdobbs,

Sorry if this has not been mentioned already, would you mind add the capability to convert to still for the menu segment beside compression?

And add ability to select certain VTS for reencoding, and ignore the rest.

Thanks. :)

[DK]

@feedback

yes

@SpazzHH

yes

a possbile YES on this, too? :D

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=723575#post723575

[TuRiSOft]

What about Audio Re-Encoding (i.e. LPCM-->AC3 2.0,LPCM-->MPegAudio,AC3 5.1-->AC3 2.0 or MpegAudio and so on .... ) ?

[thewonderer]

I'd like to see the option to change the target size of the output, handy if you're gradually putting a dvd together.

Also, a option to change the process priority of the encoder (cce etc) would be great as in normal priority, cce hogs resources a lot.

[TuRiSOft]

....Also, a option to change the process priority of the encoder (cce etc) would be great as in normal priority, cce hogs resources a lot.

You can simply create a .bat file with this line into it :Start /LOW rebuilder.exe and all depending apps will have IDLE Priority !!!

[Video Dude]

I'd like to see the option to change the target size of the output, handy if you're gradually putting a dvd together.
You can do that already by adding a line to the ini file. Read the sticky thread to find out about the hidden settings.

[thewonderer]

I looked in the hidden settings thread but could not see a option to lower the process priority for cce... please advise on this setting and it's options.

I still think it would be good to have this as an option in the GUI as I'm sure quite a few people would like to lower the priority of the encoder....

Thanx

[SpazzHH]

@ thewonderer
You can simply create a .bat file with this line into it :Start /LOW rebuilder.exe and all depending apps will have IDLE Priority !!!

This is quoted from 2 posts above yours. There is no setting in the .ini file. You must create a .bat file.

[apfraats]

Full Automatic ArrCOSS protection removal would be nice too :D


Nope without joking, a review of the MA (Multiple-Angle) processing would be nice, as I'm still having problem with this.......

After a run through DVD-RB, the switching from 1 to another angle is still not in sync, resulting in audio hickups/skips and sometimes picture disortion at switchpoint..... On the Original DVD the switching is perfectly in sync and there is no audio skip/hickup and/or picture interruption.....

[wfn1]

*** EDIT: Please disregard this request, it's already there in hidden settings. Yes I am an idiot.

Not really a necessary feature but if possible I'd like to have an option to get the size of the output closer to 4.38GB in non-OPV mode.

I.e. in DIF4U there's an option for that which gets the output to 4,695,xxx,xxx - 4,698,xxx,xxx bytes. I think it's pretty safe because most of the + and - media I encountered is 4,704 to 4,707 decimal MB in size. In RB my most consistent figure is around 4,635,xxx,xxx bytes, give or take 5MB.

I know that 60MB slack is not a lot bitrate-wise, but if I could squeeze every last bit out of a DVD-R it would stop my OCD from flaring. ;)

[TuRiSOft]

*** EDIT: Please disregard this request, it's already there in hidden settings. Yes I am an idiot.

Not really a necessary feature but if possible I'd like to have an option to get the size of the output closer to 4.38GB in non-OPV mode.

I.e. in DIF4U there's an option for that which gets the output to 4,695,xxx,xxx - 4,698,xxx,xxx bytes. I think it's pretty safe because most of the + and - media I encountered is 4,704 to 4,707 decimal MB in size. In RB my most consistent figure is around 4,635,xxx,xxx bytes, give or take 5MB.

I know that 60MB slack is not a lot bitrate-wise, but if I could squeeze every last bit out of a DVD-R it would stop my OCD from flaring. ;)

IMHO you have to try and search for diff values of targetsector. For my own I finally found it , it makes me end up with 5~15 Mb of unused space whatever encoder and option I use (I extensively tested it with CCE {2.50 - 2.66 - 2.67 - 2.70.01.05 - 2.70.02.00} HC , QuEnc and Procoder on more than 100 Titles even same result) . I had oversize only 4~5 times , everytime it was a DVD with great Number of VTSs . I don't know if this apply either in NTSC land , 'cause I've never done one NTSC title (PAL Land) but I'll give you the value I found : 2257000 . Put it in the [Options] section of rebuilder.ini as TargetSectors=2257000 and try it. I would also reccomend to use it together with vts_min_size=3000 even under [Options] section .


I would advice that the "farest_from_the_center" :D Aaargh , what a crap English I'm using :-; circle of DVDs is the less reliable , no matter what brand you are using . If you're not sure about quality of your support , stick with default values , you'd better leave the outer part of the disk blank instead of having a disk full filled but unreadable near the end.

Another tip : use PgcEdit to Remap TitleSets in order to have the most relevant one(s) near the center of the disk , same reasons as above . You can get PGCEdit searching into the "IFO/VOB Editors" Sub-Forum , the option to ReMap TitleSets is under the DVD Menù!!!

[wfn1]

Thanks, TuRiSOft. I'll check out that re-mapping thing. As far as my burns go I use a Benq dw1640 w/ TYG02 media and I can consistently get 99 scans with it so I'm not worried about the quality.

[Pasqui]

@jdobbs

For Episodic DVDs, give the ability with "matrix for extras" to apply the same matrix choice as main movie (ie main feature matrix when >3Mbps, low bitrate matrix when >2Mbps, very low bitrate matrix below). As far as I understand, the "same as main feature" checkbox in "matrix for extras" category will apply the same matrix as segments with bitrates > 3Mbps.

[raquete]

You can simply create a .bat file with this line into it :Start /LOW rebuilder.exe and all depending apps will have IDLE Priority !!!oh my gzzzzz.simple like that? :eek:
excuse my stup question but it's a cool big surprise.(dvd-rb newby here)
means that cce will run in low priority too?
:thanks:

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

For Episodic DVDs, give the ability with "matrix for extras" to apply the same matrix choice as main movie (ie main feature matrix when >3Mbps, low bitrate matrix when >2Mbps, very low bitrate matrix below). As far as I understand, the "same as main feature" checkbox in "matrix for extras" category will apply the same matrix as segments with bitrates > 3Mbps. If you select "Same as for Feature" as the selection for "Matrix for Extras" -- it will follow that instruction literally... which means it will use the "Low" and "Very Low" matrices selected (just like in the feature) if the bitrates meet the correct criteria.

Of course that assumes you have something set for "Low" and "Very Low".

[jarthel]

for episodic DVDs, the ability to select what VTSes are main.

for batch processing, the ability to start where from where it stopped.

[Boulder]

for episodic DVDs, the ability to select what VTSes are main.

I second this.

[Pasqui]

If you select "Same as for Feature" as the selection for "Matrix for Extras" -- it will follow that instruction literally... which means it will use the "Low" and "Very Low" matrices selected (just like in the feature) if the bitrates meet the correct criteria.

Of course that assumes you have something set for "Low" and "Very Low".

Thanks for the clarification. :) I feel dumb now...

[jdobbs]

I certainly wouldn't feel dumb... I wrote the damn thing and still had to go back into the code and look to see for sure. :p

[jarthel]

1 wish I really really hope that dvdrb would support, ability to assign bitrates to individual VTSes. only for pro and must be enabled in the expert section

[jdobbs]

How should it work? If you change the bitrate for a VTS, where should the extra bits come from or go? The other VTS's? That's where I have a problem, because if I don't control it, it will oversize/undersize. I've also heard the suggestion on a per segment basis... same question.

[jarthel]

How should it work? If you change the bitrate for a VTS, where should the extra bits come from or go? The other VTS's? That's where I have a problem, because if I don't control it, it will oversize/undersize. I've also heard the suggestion on a per segment basis... same question.

that why I suggested it is under the "expert" options and must have to enabled either thru a tickbox on the window or a hidden setting in rebuilder.ini

if a user fiddled around with an expert setting and they don't know what they doing, it'll be stupid to blame the program.

[ilpippo80]

maybe using something like percentages... I mean, at the beginning every vts has associated one value, all the values sum to 100 and it is possible to decrease the value for one vts to increase another one. The higher the value given to a vts, the higher the bitrate allocated for it. so the user don't have to deal with bitrates risking to mess up everything...

[Video Dude]

How should it work? If you change the bitrate for a VTS, where should the extra bits come from or go? The other VTS's? That's where I have a problem, because if I don't control it, it will oversize/undersize. I've also heard the suggestion on a per segment basis... same question.RB Opt seems to do this. When you manually adjust the bitrate for a segment, the other segments get adjusted automatically so it meets the specified output size. I used to lower the segment that contains the end credits and I noticed that RB Opt would increase the bitrate of all the other segments.




Since this is the "wish list", I wish for pal to ntsc via pulldown flags. :)

[thewonderer]

How about a field, slider in the options, not hidden, so that we can set the target rate of the completed movie or episode...

[shoarthing]

Builtin support for use of the MT plugin or/and the MT version of Avisynth - snag is this probably means [at last] updating the DGDecode combo.

Enough folks have HT or dualcore PCs [as well as us oldies with SMP boxen] that the considerable speed boost would be very welcome.

[ilpippo80]

while we're talking about MT, what about the (already requested) feature to allow to encode more than one segment at the same time? It would speed up very much the encodings with hc on machines with hyperthreading enabled...

[writersblock29]

@ilpippo80

Hi! That sounds like a pretty good idea... kind of like using RB Farm, only within one computer with dual-core processors, dual processors, or hyperthreading, so long as your encoder *normally* uses a single thread. There is a link, posted below, of an add-on program that might fit your needs in the meantime -- or at least provide insight as to when and if such an feature might be useful.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=97961

[ilpippo80]

@writersblock
mmmh, I must have missed it!
Thanks a lot, I'm going to try it...
Pippo

[FlashBlade]

Hi,
Just a small request...
Would it be possible to have unreferenced audio and subtitles removed by default (or by choosing in the setup).
See example (http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unaudsub4ta.jpg)
Thanks

[Carpo]

how about adding an option that if you select main movie and menu it removes the other menu vobs - i did a film the other day like that and had all the extras menus left on the disc - had to use vob blanker to strip em out

[EddieTH]

I'd really like to have an option in the AVS editor to add different filter chains to progressive and interlaced segments. Either completely separate sections of the editor or just a checkbox to separate fields before and weave after the filters would be great.

[FredThompson]

Temporal filters need a few frames to work properly. DVD-RB currently trims to the exact segments then inserts filters. This means the first few frames don't get properly handled by temporal filters. There is an easy way to fix this.

Current:

trim (x,y)
..filters..
ConvertToYV12()

Suggested:

trim (x-n,y+o)
..filters..
trim (n,y-x-o)
ConvertToYV12()

n and o should be 10 unless the segment is too close to the end of the VOB chain in which case it would need to be a different value.

I'm not sure the second trim command is correct, it's just to illustrate the concept.

[FredThompson]

Scratch what I posted just before this. There is a far easier method to make temporal filtering work properly.

Hey, jdobbs, how about moving the trim command to the last position in the filter chain?

That will let temporal filters work properly throughout an entire segment.

[jdobbs]

But then you'd apply the filter to the entire stream before pulling out just frames for the segment you want... that would be extremely slow, wouldn't it?

[FredThompson]

No, that's not how AviSynth works. It's not a linear program, it's more like a complex function. In this case, it is a benefit. It's a royal bear if you want to do some types of conditional programming.

The current method says:

1. limit the data set to (x,y)
2. define the function
3. return the evaluated results of the data set (x,y)

What I'm suggesting is:

1. no limit to the data set
2. define the function
3. return the evaluated results of the data set (x,y)

There is no speed difference because the function (the AviSynth script) is still only evaluated for the requested frames. If the entire stream were parsed, that would happen for every segment because those are different scripts and different encoding sessions.

Well, OK, there's a slight bit of overhead to jump to a position inside the data file but that's a DOS function and practically invisible to the user.

[Numer0bis]

well something for the wishlish:

It would be really cool if you could reencode the menu's too!
so to save space, atm I am using menu2shrink too shrink the menus too stils. Works like a charme and saves a lot of space !

[ricardo.santos]

well something for the wishlish:

It would be really cool if you could reencode the menu's too!
so to save space, atm I am using menu2shrink too shrink the menus too stils. Works like a charme and saves a lot of space !


I'll second that

[jdobbs]

Menu encoding is at the top of the list already. It'll be there some time soon.

[jptheripper]

is that pal2ntsc still there? man i could use that

[jdobbs]

It's on the list -- but I'm not sure when it might be done.

[jptheripper]

of course.. and would require menu encoding also

as a movie only option it would be simpler, adding a resize filter and changing the flags.

[jdobbs]

Thinking about it, that may be something that would be easier done by just running a utility against a VIDEO_TS folder. All you really have to do is change the settings in the IFOs and do some pulldown magic. I must be missing something, though, it sounds too easy...