what is the difference between ffdshow-20050822.exe and ffdshow-20050822MSVC71.exe

Yama4050242 · 23rd August 2005, 02:00

thanx

Sirber · 23rd August 2005, 02:12

GCC compîled vs MS Visual Studio 7.1 compiled?

Guest · 23rd August 2005, 02:19

@Yama4050242

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Yama4050242 · 23rd August 2005, 05:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirber

GCC compîled vs MS Visual Studio 7.1 compiled?

so any difference when i run 2 version? speed? or compatibility? i am not a programer, and i have nothing on the 2 difference compiler

Shirokuu · 23rd August 2005, 06:09

The MSVC project files from the older FFDSHOW sources don't have NASM enabled so it could be the reason the GCC compiled binary is slightly faster. I haven't done a compile for months now so I don't know what the current situation is though

ExtraEye · 23rd August 2005, 07:22

I'd like to know too...

celtic_druid · 23rd August 2005, 07:24

ffdshow-20050822 uses ICL9.
ffdshow-20050822MSVC71 uses MSVC 7.1.
We are talking just ffdshow.ax here.
ICL9 from all reports so far is faster, it however crashes on one particular sample. There could also be other issues.

gcc last time I tried produced a binary that just crashes.

Yama4050242 · 23rd August 2005, 12:20

@celtic_druid
thank you for your reply:P

Shirokuu · 23rd August 2005, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yama4050242

@celtic_druid
thank you for your reply:P

Milan's Tikiwike site is borked, but i remember he was awaiting GCC 4.0 to be released before adjusting FFDSHOW to be compatible with GCC. ( ? )

hellfred · 23rd August 2005, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shirokuu

Milan's Tikiwike site is borked, but i remember he was awaiting GCC 4.0 to be released before adjusting FFDSHOW to be compatible with GCC. ( ? )

That is correct. I am wondering, why there is still no official MinGW gcc-4.0. When googling, you will find many reports of building gcc-4.0 successfully under MinGW and even binaries.

Hellfred

EDIT: Read here
about problems with gcc.4.0 under MinGW

celtic_druid · 24th August 2005, 04:09

There were also some cvs updates some time back in regards to getting gcc to work.

"ffdshow can be compiled by GCC: image filters are unoptimized, crashes immediatelly at start support for cross-compilation by Gianluigi Tiesi"

Shirokuu · 24th August 2005, 13:42

I finally had a chance to play around with both new binaries, both the ICL and MSVC compile. The ICL version chokes on a very regular 900 kbit XVID encode with SPP enabled on notch 2. The MSVC version ran it smoothly without any problems. CPU load spiked on the ICL compile every few frames to 100%, the MSVC compile didn't have this problem.
So on top of celtic_druid's mentioned one-case-crash I would recommend the MSVC build.

Sharktooth · 24th August 2005, 14:06

I confirm SPP on the ICL build is unuseable on athlon CPUs.

Shirokuu · 24th August 2005, 15:09

@Sharktooth, i have an Intel Pentium IV HT. ( ? )

clsid · 24th August 2005, 16:33

That one clip that crashes is a special case. It only crashes with the combo Haali + ffdshow ICL9. Weird thing is though that the clip doesn't crash if I first play some other file. It only crashes if it is the first thing that is played after opening the player.

ExtraEye · 24th August 2005, 20:23

doesn't happen to me and i use halli splitter for avi's too

Shirokuu · 24th August 2005, 21:35

For what it's worth i use the Haali splitter (latest version) too. (Sorry if this post is a bit redundant.)

midiboy · 10th September 2005, 12:26

Hi!

I have opened a new thread for this here but my experience on an Intel P4 system is different. At least for the 20050909 version, the MSVC71 compile crashes on 2 files which the ICL build plays fine ...

Maybe I am the only Inteluser here

Bye,
Alex

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Shirokuu god of broken compiles Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 43	Nasm The MSVC project files from the older FFDSHOW sources don't have NASM enabled so it could be the reason the GCC compiled binary is slightly faster. I haven't done a compile for months now so I don't know what the current situation is though

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celtic_druid Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,171	ffdshow-20050822 uses ICL9. ffdshow-20050822MSVC71 uses MSVC 7.1. We are talking just ffdshow.ax here. ICL9 from all reports so far is faster, it however crashes on one particular sample. There could also be other issues. gcc last time I tried produced a binary that just crashes.

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Yama4050242 DeadFat Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 80	@celtic_druid thank you for your reply:P

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celtic_druid Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,171	There were also some cvs updates some time back in regards to getting gcc to work. "ffdshow can be compiled by GCC: image filters are unoptimized, crashes immediatelly at start support for cross-compilation by Gianluigi Tiesi"

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Shirokuu god of broken compiles Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 43	I finally had a chance to play around with both new binaries, both the ICL and MSVC compile. The ICL version chokes on a very regular 900 kbit XVID encode with SPP enabled on notch 2. The MSVC version ran it smoothly without any problems. CPU load spiked on the ICL compile every few frames to 100%, the MSVC compile didn't have this problem. So on top of celtic_druid's mentioned one-case-crash I would recommend the MSVC build.

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Shirokuu god of broken compiles Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 43	@Sharktooth, i have an Intel Pentium IV HT. ( ? )

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clsid ***** Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,815	That one clip that crashes is a special case. It only crashes with the combo Haali + ffdshow ICL9. Weird thing is though that the clip doesn't crash if I first play some other file. It only crashes if it is the first thing that is played after opening the player.

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ExtraEye Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 166	doesn't happen to me and i use halli splitter for avi's too

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Shirokuu god of broken compiles Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 43	For what it's worth i use the Haali splitter (latest version) too. (Sorry if this post is a bit redundant.)

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midiboy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 37	Hi! I have opened a new thread for this here but my experience on an Intel P4 system is different. At least for the 20050909 version, the MSVC71 compile crashes on 2 files which the ICL build plays fine ... Maybe I am the only Inteluser here Bye, Alex