DivX 6 released!

[Gej]

Not hardcore as in “Ron Jeremy” :-)

[LordRPI]

:goodpost:

[Ice =A=]

Oh well, nobody is perfect! :)
English is not my native language, so have mercy upon me!!! ;)
Here in germany we use that word "Hardcoreuser" all the time! Well, we use the word "hardcore" too, to be honest...

[Hyper Shinchan]

Thanks to DigitAl56K for his reply.
I want to say:
1. I've understood that you make this container file to make it backward compatible with the old player, but I don't think that it's good. Yes, there are a lot of DivX player out there, but won't they change them one them? So wasn't it better to use an ISO patented container like MP4?
2. Of course DivX certification enable to play without problem movies on hardware players (but when you make your back-up it's sufficient that you look some parameters like GMC and QPel and you should able to make an MPEG-4 compatible with your player also with XivD, it seems that yours certifications were created for downloaded movies.....), and it's important, but when you think to change fully the specs. of DivX? In the future will DivX includes AVC? It cannot remain the same forever.....
3. At the moment I use Nero Digital for my DVD back-up, this is the reason cause I've prefered MP4 container...... but they are yours contestants, right?

[12gage]

just a couple of questions, until i get an answer about ht error with v-dub, if i want to encode using DivXConverter using an .avs file, how do i add audio? and assuming i eventually can use the codec externally how do i make a .divx file? thanks in advance to thoses with the answers.

[StriderGT]

I found the DivxEncSettings log in the Video_TS folder of my movie: 97 min animated picture:

bicubic_B 0.000000
bicubic_C 0.750000
bitrate 909000
complexity modulation 0.000000
crop bottom 0
crop left 0
crop right 0
crop top 0
data partitioning 0
deinterlace 0
enable crop 0
enable resize 1
input clock 25000
input frame period 1000
interlace mode 0
internal timescale 0
key frame threshold 50
log file read C:\DOCUME~1\Strider\LOCALS~1\Temp\aax38.tmp\encode.log
log file write C:\DOCUME~1\Strider\LOCALS~1\Temp\aax38.tmp\encode.log
max key interval 300
mv file c:\mvinfo.bin
psychovisual 0
pv strength frame -1.000000
quality 1
quantizer 4.000000
quarter pel 0
resize height 288
resize mode 1
resize width 512
spatial level 0.200000
spatial passes 1
temporal enable 1
temporal level 0.400000
use bidirect 1
use gmc 0
vbr mode 3
vbv bitrate 4854000
vbv occupancy 2359296
vbv size 3145728
temporal enable 1
temporal level -1717986918
spatial passes 1
spatial level -1717986918

I guess similar settings will be used by the DivX 6 Converter for all people doing a DVD > 700MB conversion. Single(=Spatial?) pass explains both the speed and the lack of uber quality.

[DigitAl56K]

@Bathrone and thomaz909

As promised, I wrote up more information about network traffic, etc.

See here:
http://forums.divx.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/201101651/m/593109352

Hope this helps you,

-Al

[hajj_3]

i get the "divx settings manager" in my tray icon every time i play an xvid or divx movie, d "support generic mpeg4 encoding" is enabled, but i cant find an option to stop the program from loading into my tray icon, where is this option and if there isnt an option can you add this to divx 6.0.1 please.

another vote for advanced options in divx converter, its FAR to basic at the moment, so will carry on using auto guardian knot.

[Sergei_Esenin]

Thanks to DigitAl56K for his reply.
I want to say:
1. I've understood that you make this container file to make it backward compatible with the old player, but I don't think that it's good. Yes, there are a lot of DivX player out there, but won't they change them one them? So wasn't it better to use an ISO patented container like MP4?

Why would the MP4 container have been inherently better--just because it's a (far from universal, and severely limited in practice) "standard"? The great thing about standards is, there are so many to choose from. :sly: Seriously, a "standard" is only useful insofar as it meets one's needs. I like the MPEG-4 container and have used it where appropriate; yet, Matroska is more flexible for most of my needs and I use it far more often. Is MP4 better because it's somebody's idea of a standard? Is Matroska better because it's more flexible? Is the new .divx DMF better because it's backwards-compatible? The answers are of course, yes, yes, and yes. :D

Seriously, there are advantages to each of the three approaches, and disadvantages to each. But from a pure business standpoint, given Divx's installed base of existing hardware players which mostly support only AVI yet, it would've been stupid to adopt MP4 if it were possible to add their new features without breaking backwards compatibility. That would've alienated more customers than are alienated by the newly extended container, so it's an easy business choice.

Again, there's nothing inherently superior about MP4--it has advantages, but nothing all-important. Likewise with Matroska, which has become my container of choice. There are advantages to each container, and niches where each can logically be preferred. .MP4, .MKV, .divx, and others all have their places, and will coexist nicely. The fact that you may wish everyone would adopt MP4, and I may wish everyone would adopt Matroska, is irrelevent to the reality that we all have different needs and priorities. :cool:

[namchik]

divx player doesnt play XviD-videos (xvid decoder and even ffdshow are installed)...

[288GTO]

Gej & 12Gage,

I think I made a beginner mistake, though I'm not a beginner. In the GKnot DivX codec settings for "First Pass" (Button) there was a default setting of "Multipass, nth Pass" after installing DivX6. I changed this to "Multipass, 1st Pass" and I got a perfect result.
By the way, I encoded the James Bond movie "The world is not enough" which I recorded from ditial cable TV.

kind regards,

288GTO

[12gage]

thanks alot for the response, i'll give it a try

it worked like a charm, thanks again that was getting frustrating

[Hyper Shinchan]

The fact that you may wish everyone would adopt MP4, and I may wish everyone would adopt Matroska, is irrelevent to the reality that we all have different needs and priorities.
I wish a more large spread of the MP4 container 'coz it's more flexible than avi.
I don't know if there are the old problem of avi with his new DivX, but avi has large problem with MP3 VBR, it doesn't support exactly AAC (also if it's possible to place AAC audio tracks with AVIMux GUI, I've heard, but I haven't ever checked it by myself). I don't think that mkv will become one day a large spread standard (at least for the home video), but MP4 thanks to Nero Digital, Apple's I-Pod, and last but not least Sony's PSP it's becoming to be a widely accepted standard.
Of course, they can make as they wish, they don't want to alienate their old customers, if they are happy in this way.....

[neo_anderson]

i do not know how to write avisynth script! so , i have been using gknot for a long time now for script creation! but, it resizes 16:9 dvd's to like 704x304, but if i remember correctly, dr. divx did 720X304 ! so, can i edit or write avs script myself! can anyone help me in telling me format of avisynth script?

[12gage]

neo: i've found the easiest way to edit a .avs script is to open it in v-dub mod then select script editor and make any changes you need. Hope this helps.

Also i'm wondering if there is a program that helps you take a avi and make a .divx file, with the chapters and subs?

[Fateh2002]

i just wanna know, the new version of Divx will preserve the ratio of the vedio like DVD
or we must resize the video during the encoding process to preserve the original ratio.....

[ricardo.santos]

yes it preserves i tried with both 4:3 and 16:9 and the results i get are 1.33.1 and
1.80.1

i checked this cm's digital video tool.

[Sergei_Esenin]

I wish a more large spread of the MP4 container 'coz it's more flexible than avi.

In theory, MP4 is more flexible than AVI. In practice, AVI is far more flexible because MP4 private stream support is unimplemented in splitters/decoders except for a few special cases like Nero's subs. That limits the usefulness of MP4 to a few specific codecs and formats explicitly in the spec, whereas *almost* anything can be muxed into AVI and easily used by existing splitters/decoders. So, in practice, AVI is by far more flexible--though Matroska is at least as flexible in practice, but with the advantages of better ground-up design without the hacks AVI uses, which is why I put most of my files in the MKV container.

For a real-world case of how MP4 falls far short and becomes too limited, I compress a lot of TV shows to MPEG-4 ASP or AVC. Perfect for MP4 since those codecs are native to the MP4 container. *But*, many TV show DVDs use stereo AC3 sound @ 192, a low enough bitrate for the inefficient AC3 codec that a good sound system already exposes some artifacting. I can either recompress to AAC, which would be silly since it would only save a few MB and degrade the already not-great sound quality a little more, or I can keep the AC3--which makes the most sense snce it's only a few MB more and retains 100% original quality. But the MP4 container/system doesn't currently support this; even as a private stream, no current playback support exists. So, Matroska or even AVI are quite superior in terms of flexibility.

Granted, that's a very specific case and not a problem everyone will encounter or be bothered by. But it proves that MP4 is *less* flexible than even AVI, not more so. And a quick search for the term AC3 on the common networks shows that keeping the original AC3 sound is something many people want to do--AVI and MKV allow it; MP4 doesn't, at least not in a presently useful way.

I don't think that mkv will become one day a large spread standard (at least for the home video)

I agree. Matroska will probably never become an extremely widespread standard. But it doesn't need to, because it's open source, well used in tech-savvy circles, and supported by so many great tools that if a problem ever happens with future support the streams can be easily demuxed and put into whatever's popular at the time. That's the beauty of it. Even if MP4 ever becomes the de facto new standard to replace AVI, right now MP4 is too crippled and inflexible. For creating new content in ASP or AVC with AAC or MP3 audio (or a few other less-used codecs), it's great and I give it points for being a uniform standard. But for dealing with existing content and much potential upcoming content (HD-DVD and Blu-ray allow more video and audio codecs than MP4 allows), it's too limited by being too closely tied to its small number of native codecs. Maybe a variety of codecs will get filter and player support as private streams in future, but right now MP4 is too restricted. Whatever it is, MP4 is not "more flexible than avi"--it's very inflexible. Matroska brings far more to the table if flexibility and modern design are one's priorities. AVI has flexibility advantages too, but with hacks to a cruftier, less modern architecture.

MP4 thanks to Nero Digital, Apple's I-Pod, and last but not least Sony's PSP it's becoming to be a widely accepted standard.

It's still not nearly as common as AVI or (shudder) WMV. I have my doubts that it will ever be, since AVI and WMV are entrenched and "good enough" for most uses and the MP4 implementations you just listed are all partly or largely incompatible. If you could download an MP4 file from Apple to play on your PSP, and create an MP4 with Nero that will play on as many STBs as AVI can, then you'd have a great contender. But the implementations don't all "talk" to each other and aren't all mutually compatible. In theory the MP4 container could be a unifying framework; in practice, it's being pushed by only a few parties and not in a unified 100% interoperable way. This gets complicated by DRM--WMV allows for a more-or-less unified DRM framework for content providers who want it; MP4 doesn't have uniform DRM in practice so content providers will be grafting their own protection on like Apple did with iTMS, and different implementations will cause consumer confusion. Don't get me wrong, I dislike DRM--but it's a reality which will impact the coming MP4 vs WMV fight in the online content industry.

The MP4 container may be a standard, but it has an uphill battle against the ubiquity of WMV and AVI before it becomes *the* standard. Especially in online content distribution, WM9 in the WMV container (popular on all kinds of sites) and MPEG-4 ASP in the AVI container (popular on pr0n sites) has a hold MP4 is going to have a hard time loosening. Yes, I *hope* it eventually wins against those formats. No, I'm not certain it will.

For personal file creation, MP4 faces a similar uphill battle. Which brings us back on topic to the "extended AVI" DMF which Divx went with. Maintaining backwards compatibility while grafting on modern features is perhaps the smartest thing Divx Networks has ever done. While MP4 is fighting the uphill battle against AVI and WMV armed with superior technology under the hood but few if any *practical* advantages to the container, DMF already has the largest installed base on both the PC and STB thanks to its riff structure. Again, smart business move.

And now I'll shut up about containers, because I've gotten off topic. :) I'll just reiterate that each format has its advantages, and the advantage of DMF in combining modern features with backwards compatibility cannot be underestimated. The average end user doesn't care about format architecture--he just cares about having the cool new features, but still keeping use of his old hardware. DMF does that, making it a potential success.

[ckjnigel]

Gee, that was great, Sergei! I almost understood it all and now have a better idea of how the big corporations are arrayed to control us.
...but I'm wondering why Yahoo is going with MS formats...

[tommy_vercetti]

Why does VirtualDub crash on even trying to see the About box for DivX 6YV12 codec in the compression settings.


P.S. Would have put up a screenshot but somehow this firefox is not letting me attach it.

[namchik]

tommy_vercetti
maybe 4CC "YV12" belongs to more than 1 codec (e.g. when XviD is installed)...
I unchecked the UV12 when installing DivX 6

[neo_anderson]

hey divx team, when will those docs and tools for creating .divx files be available?

[tommy_vercetti]

The crash log file for any one interested

[DoctorRad]

>>> Firmware update to support the DivX Media Format <<<

Does this mean that if we use AVI as a container, that existing DivX certified players will playback DivX 6 material? Or will that require a firmware update too??

Dr. Matt...

[stephanV]

DivX certified devices always have supported AVI...

[Sagittaire]

For metric DivX6 is the best ... MPEG4 ASP codec. Good work DXN ...

PS: in my test N Pass (3 and more) is impossible. Problem with stat file with more than 2 pass ...


|--------------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
| Codec | PProc | Bitrate | Size | OPSNR | SSIM 0 | SSIM 2 |
|--------------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
| DivX6 ASP | PP4 | 446 | 6757 | 39.85 | 70.17 | 65.02 |
| XviD ASP | PP4 | 446 | 6756 | 39.66 | 69.55 | 64.33 |
| LAVC ASP | PP4 | 447 | 6775 | 39.71 | 69.51 | 63.82 |
| Nero AVC HP | PP0 | 446 | 6747 | 40.96 | 76.20 | 71.63 |
| x264 AVC HP | PP0 | 446 | 6747 | 40.85 | 74.82 | 70.40 |
| Nero AVC MP | PP0 | 446 | 6747 | 40.61 | 74.69 | 69.93 |
| x264 AVC MP | PP0 | 446 | 6750 | 40.64 | 73.83 | 69.23 |
| VP7 | PP2 | 446 | 6760 | 40.84 | 74.42 | 70.05 |
| VP6 | PP4 | 446 | 6769 | 40.28 | 71.86 | 66.89 |
| WMV9 | PP1 | 446 | 6746 | 39.51 | 69.58 | 64.07 |
| RV10 | HF2 | 446 | 6743 | 39.84 | 69.86 | 64.60 |
| DivX3 | PP4 | 447 | 6771 | 38.70 | 65.11 | 58.56 |
|--------------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
| DivX6 ASP | PP4 | 896 | 13493 | 42.78 | 81.14 | 77.99 |
| XviD ASP | PP4 | 896 | 13489 | 42.66 | 80.99 | 77.96 |
| LAVC ASP | PP4 | 897 | 13528 | 42.77 | 80.95 | 77.77 |
| Nero AVC HP | PP0 | 896 | 13490 | 43.63 | 84.39 | 81.60 |
| x264 AVC HP | PP0 | 896 | 13491 | 43.46 | 83.27 | 80.50 |
| Nero AVC MP | PP0 | 896 | 13491 | 43.37 | 83.65 | 80.71 |
| x264 AVC MP | PP0 | 896 | 13498 | 43.26 | 82.66 | 79.75 |
| VP7 | PP2 | 897 | 13534 | 43.34 | 82.75 | 80.02 |
| VP6 | PP4 | 896 | 13481 | 42.99 | 81.39 | 78.41 |
| WMV9 | PP1 | 896 | 13510 | 42.52 | 79.88 | 76.73 |
| RV10 | HF2 | 896 | 13493 | 42.77 | 80.82 | 77.72 |
| DivX3 | PP4 | 896 | 13508 | 41.84 | 78.27 | 74.40 |
|--------------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
SSIM 0: Lumimask Off
SSIM 1: Lumimask On (Original Lumimask)
SSIM 2: Lumimask On (One2Tech Patch)

[code65536]

A feature request for DivX 6...

Could you add an option to disable the tray icon when not using the DivX container? Call me a control-freak, but I like to keep a tidy tray without many icons in it. I understand the purpose of the icon when playing back files encased in the new-fangled DivX container, but it's not necessary for old vanilla .avi files, except to access the decoder configuration. And while on that topic, when I tried to access the decoder configuration during playback by going to DivX codec properties as listed by my playback software, it just gives me an about tab (screenshot attached, though I think you know what I mean). Could the decoder controls be put back there (at least, could it be put there if the user has disabled the tray icon, assuming that my first feature request is granted? ;))

[Hyper Shinchan]

Sergei, the yurs is a good (and long) reply.
Maybe a variety of codecs will get filter and player support as private streams in future, but right now MP4 is too restricted
MP4 isn't properly not flexible" for the few format that it can handle, but there aren't many tools to mux other format. With MP4Box you can mux Vorbis, with Nero Recode Vobsubs, with I-Tunes Apple Lossless format, but they are private streams, they aren't compatible between them.
MP4 was made to support MPEG-4, there aren't reasons to include other format, it's the same that you say that vob doesn't support a lot of streams, and it was made to be a "standard" kike mpg and other industrial file containers, it's different from mkv.
When I convert from AC3 2.0 192 kbps to AAC LC 2.0 80 kbps I free a lot of space for the video, and coz I don't have this "great" audio system" I don't hear the difference; when I convert fromAC3 5.1 448 kbps to AAC-HE 5.1 128 Kbps I free a LOT of space for the video, of course if you don't like AAC compression I don't see why you should use ASP for the video, also the video is afflicted by compression, maybe it's more afflicted than the audio.
It's still not nearly as common as AVI or (shudder) WMV. I have my doubts that it will ever be, since AVI and WMV are entrenched and "good enough" for most uses and the MP4 implementations you just listed are all partly or largely incompatible. If you could download an MP4 file from Apple to play on your PSP, and create an MP4 with Nero that will play on as many STBs as AVI can, then you'd have a great contender. But the implementations don't all "talk" to each other and aren't all mutually compatible.
At the moment there aren't a lot of these devices, I know, nut maybe in the future they will become more and more spread (on some websites you can already found clips in MP4 PSP compatible, I-Pod is the most spread portable audio devices, and I hope that there will be more and more MP4 compatible DVD players).
WMV has many problems coz is a private standard, it's spread on internet, but when you talk about hardware devices it's very different.
And now I'll shut up about containers, because I've gotten off topic. I'll just reiterate that each format has its advantages, and the advantage of DMF in combining modern features with backwards compatibility cannot be underestimated. The average end user doesn't care about format architecture--he just cares about having the cool new features, but still keeping use of his old hardware. DMF does that, making it a potential success.
It's a smart business move, as you said before, right?
P.S.: I'm sorry if I'm off topic from a long time, should I open a new thread?

[DoctorRad]

DivX certified devices always have supported AVI...
That doesn't answer my question, so I'll rephrase it:

Will existing DivX Certified players playback a DivX 6 bitstream in an AVI container?

Dr. Matt...

[stephanV]

Why not? MPEG4 is MPEG4, its not like they invented a new bit stream...the whole point about DivX6 is that it is still compatible with DivX 5.

[SeeMoreDigital]

That doesn't answer my question, so I'll rephrase it:

Will existing DivX Certified players playback a DivX 6 bitstream in an AVI container?

Dr. Matt...Short answer... yes!

All "DivX Certified" players should indeed be able to play DivX6 streams placed within the .AVI container.

With regard to the .DIVX container, all "DivX Certified" players should be able to play (at the very minimum) the audio and video elements of an DivX6 encode.

However, until manufacturers provide firmware upgrades for their players, you will not gain full access to DivX6's (.divx), menus, chapters and maybe even the subtitles.


Cheers

[neo_anderson]

hey, which is recommended for a 2-cd rip in divx 6 of a dvd movie, h.263, h.263 optimized or mpeg-2?

[ripper64]

hey, which is recommended for a 2-cd rip in divx 6 of a dvd movie, h.263, h.263 optimized or mpeg-2?I would go for MPEG-2.

Great, DivX6. I especially like the new interface. Much better without popup dialogs!

[Sharktooth]

MPEG-2 in divx is buggy (it got never fixed).
Just use "h.263 optimized".

[Gej]

I you have time always use "h263 optimzed" it is really good !

[SeeMoreDigital]

As a matter of interest, does the latest version of "DivX Player" support Mpeg4+MP3 files in .MP4... like previous versions?


Cheers

[Buggle]

I am having problems playing back Div3 content with the new DivX6.
First I tried to play back an incomplete (but fixed) stream. It did not give me picture, there was only sound. After switching off postprocessing image appeared, after re-enabling postprocessing it stayed that way, luckily.

Then I tried to encode a different Div3 stream to VCD to watch it on my other tv, and it didn't work. TMPG kept on giving me errors, and told me the file consistet of about 488.000 frames while it is only 114926 big.

Then another movie (also in Div3 format) played back incorrectly, with only smeared out colors ed, regardless of the point in the movie. This movie worked before installing DivX6, I am absolutely sure about that.

I am installing 5.2.1 now because of this. Not that all of my movies are encoded in Div3, but these problems are not giving me much confidence in this versions decoder. I'll be waiting for the minor revs...

[Ice =A=]

Concerning playback problems with older (DivX3) files I can confirm that! I had exactly the same problem as Buggle (including the "solution" by switching off overlay). Till now I thought that would be some problem with my system only, but as it looks like it's not.

[xelagot]

All avis encoded with XVid are now being decoded by the DivX 6 codec (I see this because the DivX logo shows overlayed). This means I can not use or test the XVid decoder at all now since I upgraded. I see no option in the DivX decoder to stop this behaviour.

The XVid decoder also has the ability to decode DivX, but they have the decency to allow you to chose this option, they do not force you to use it. Can the DivX decoder have the same respect for other codecs?

I hope this was a glitch, but plagued now by constant warnings of my firewall about DivX trying to contact internet and highjacking other applications to do so without my consent, I'm in doubt.

I think a professional codec has NO BUSINESS contacting remote hosts (for whatever reason) or decoding other codecs without prior consent. Or installing toolbars. A codec is there to COde and DECode. I hope this gets fixed soon.

X

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi xelagot,

Try clicking on the "DivX Configuration" option (available via: Start/Programs/DivX etc).

Once their, deselect "Support Decoding of Generic MPEG-4 Video".


Cheers

[ChronoCross]

All avis encoded with XVid are now being decoded by the DivX 6 codec (I see this because the DivX logo shows overlayed). This means I can not use or test the XVid decoder at all now since I upgraded. I see no option in the DivX decoder to stop this behaviour.

The XVid decoder also has the ability to decode DivX, but they have the decency to allow you to chose this option, they do not force you to use it. Can the DivX decoder have the same respect for other codecs?

I hope this was a glitch, but plagued now by constant warnings of my firewall about DivX trying to contact internet and highjacking other applications to do so without my consent, I'm in doubt.

I think a codec has NO BUSINESS contacting remote hosts (for whatever reason) or decoding other codecs without prior consent. A codec is there to COde and DECode. I hope this gets fixed soon.

X

I have to agree with you on that one. The fact that everytime I open the encoder window in vdubmod rundll32.dll tries to contact divx is getting on my nerves.

[xelagot]

SeeMoreDigital:

thanks, that worked :) Why the heck is this not an option (as far as I could see) in the installer? Or are we supposed to be wizzards?

Cheers.

[xelagot]

I have to agree with you on that one. The fact that everytime I open the encoder window in vdubmod rundll32.dll tries to contact divx is getting on my nerves.

Another wizzard trick: when you configure the codec settings in VDM, click on the "advanced" button (bottom left). Unselect both "rotate artwork..." and "always check for new version at startup".

More mysteries solved :devil:

X

[DigitAl56K]

Ok, here we go:

@squid_80:

A 64-bit version of DivX looks ever more likely as 64-bit CPUs are upon us. The key piece that is missing is a 64-bit OS ready to ship in volume. You may, of course, see releases on DivX Labs before then.

@ricardo.santos:

Are you using DivX Player to view the subtitles? I think there may be an issue with the way it renders them. Have you tried Windows Media Player?

@Hyper Shinchan:
In the future will DivX includes AVC? It cannot remain the same forever.....

Possibly, when it makes sense. AVC is by no means a bad technology, and we certainly don't want to knock it on the head. Right now when we look at the CE space and the system requirements for a good experience with AVC with respect to emerging use cases like HD video we still expect that it will not be immediately useful to most people (although still interesting to the tech enthusiast, of course). When we look at AVC in comparison to DivX 6 we also see that for things like HD video there really isn't too much difference between the two. In fact, the difference is often so small that it will be nigh-on indistinguishable to the majority of people, although DivX 6 will play on lots of certified devices and on lower spec'd pc's. Also remember that with DivX 6 we're launching an entire format, and not simply a video codec. When your video already looks great, the next thing is to enhance the experience with extra features, and the DivX Media Format is designed to let you do that.

@12gage:
If you want to encode with audio in DivX Converter using .avs scripts, you may need the latest version of AVISynth (http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/avisynth2/AviSynth_050505.exe?download). If your audio is stored seperately, you can apply AudioDub() to combine it with the video.

@hajj_3:
You should be able to prevent the DivX Toolbar appearing in the tray area by renaming DivXSM.exe

@namchik:
DivX Player certainly should play XVID video. I'll look into that, thanks for bringing it to my attention.

@neo_anderson:
AVISynth is a lot less difficult to work with than it may first appear. Basically .avs files are just like regular .txt files that you can edit in Notepad. Inside the .avs file you can list a series of functions to be performed on a clip. The idea is that some of the functions are built-in, some can be used after you load a special plugin (using LoadPlugin("filename.dll")), and generally you use a Source filter (like AVISource("filename.avi)) to input a video, apply some filters (like LanczosResize(720,304)), and then return the output video at the end of the script, which is what an app like VirtualDub will see. There are some good sample scripts on the AVISynth website, and it's very easy to pick it up and experiment once you get started.

@Sergei_Esenin:

I'll just reiterate that each format has its advantages, and the advantage of DMF in combining modern features with backwards compatibility cannot be underestimated. The average end user doesn't care about format architecture--he just cares about having the cool new features, but still keeping use of his old hardware. DMF does that, making it a potential success.

Great comment! We'll pay you later... ;)

@namchik:

Lots of drivers and codec packs provide YV12 support to VFW applications. The issue is not so much that many codecs use the YV12 fourcc, but more so that VFW apps need a means to receive YV12 video. DivX provides this means in case you don't have something else that does it. You can, as you pointed out, turn it off during installation.

@neo_anderson:

How long it takes us to release the tools depends on how long we can lock fluffy in the office. So far he's been there 6 days straight. He almost escaped once when we scheduled thekid to watch over him, then released thekid was out of the country for a month, but fortunately the industrial cabling held tight and disaster was averted.

@DoctorRad:

Existing DivX 6 players will play DivX 6 video in a DivX AVI file, and the main title of a DivX media file - optionally with subtitles and alternate audio tracks.

@Sagittaire:

Awesome test results! I'll look into that >2-pass problem for you.

@code65536:

We might be able to add an option to turn off the tray icon. I'll talk to the team about it. The decoder controls are available from the tray, or from your start menu.

@Sharktooth:

Yes, the MPEG quantization is still a little iffy ;) I know some of the team have been looking into the problem recently.

@SeeMoreDigital:

DivX Player 6 should support MPEG-4 ASP and MP3 audio in a .mp4 container. If you find a file you have problems with let me know!

@Buggle:

That DivX 3 problem sounds really bizarre. Do you know anything about the files that you're trying to play? I.e. the way that they were encoded? This would help us track down any issue. We do test the decoder against a series of DivX 3 files on every release, but obviously we don't have one which triggers this particular condition. Is there any chance that you could send us a clip if I give you an FTP location to upload to?

@ChronoCross:

To stop the codec making any connections turn off "Rotate product artwork" and "Always check for updates" in the encoder settings.

More information:
http://forums.divx.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/201101651/m/593109352




And that wraps up another gigantic posting orgy for the night. Have fun everyone! :)

[ricardo.santos]

digiatl56k

@ricardo.santos:

"Are you using DivX Player to view the subtitles? I think there may be an issue with the way it renders them. Have you tried Windows Media Player?"


i dont view divx on pc, i bought a divx standalone palyer for that, but answering your question the divxmedia player and wmp display them badly, even my standalone doesnt display them properly( too thin, not well shaped the letteres, bits missing of letters, almost transparent)

i stopped complaining as i found a method to display them properly using srt2bmp,fuse and divx5.2.1(drdivx, gordian)

if u only need subs very ocasionally i guess divxconverter will work for u, but if subs are IMPORTANT for u I RECOMEND :
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=89718

USING that method really improved a lot the subs, they're perfect.
Digital56k if u have time, can u try that method and compare it with the results from divxconverter? not being funny or anything but i guess you wil be surprised with the output quality.
this is my personal opinion.

[Buggle]

Ok, here we go:

@Buggle:

That DivX 3 problem sounds really bizarre. Do you know anything about the files that you're trying to play? I.e. the way that they were encoded? This would help us track down any issue. We do test the decoder against a series of DivX 3 files on every release, but obviously we don't have one which triggers this particular condition. Is there any chance that you could send us a clip if I give you an FTP location to upload to?


Sure, i'd be more than happy to help :) How much data do you need from each file?
By the way, the movie that gave me that colored smearing works fine now again with 5.2.1

[neo_anderson]

thks for the reply digital56k, i am really looking forward to the release of those tools, one more small thing, which resize should i use, lancos or bicubic, as i noticed that many use bicubic, so which one would u prefer? i usually go for 2-cd dvd to divx rips!

[SeeMoreDigital]

@SeeMoreDigital:

DivX Player 6 should support MPEG-4 ASP and MP3 audio in a .mp4 container. If you find a file you have problems with let me know!DivX "video only" streams placed within the MP4 container using MP4Box, play with green flashes!

DivX video with MP3 streams placed within the MP4 container using MP4Box, display the following error message: -

http://img299.echo.cx/img299/454/divxplayererror9lw.png


Cheers

[Buggle]

An update on the problem:
After installing 5.2.1 again I still can't put the one avi directly to TMPG. So I cannot be sure it is DivX6 that caused that problem. I solved it by frameserving it into TMPG with VirtualDub. That works fine (although a little slower).
But as said, the other problem was gone after installing 5.2.1

[Buggle]

@Buggle:

That DivX 3 problem sounds really bizarre. Do you know anything about the files that you're trying to play? I.e. the way that they were encoded? This would help us track down any issue. We do test the decoder against a series of DivX 3 files on every release, but obviously we don't have one which triggers this particular condition. Is there any chance that you could send us a clip if I give you an FTP location to upload to?

Do you still want those clips? I could upload them tuesdayafternoon (GMT+1)