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zacoz
21st April 2005, 11:46
Originally posted by r0lZ
But don't expect that soon, as I need to take some distance with PgcEdit, at least during the springs and summer.@r0lZ: I'd hate to try and keep up with releases if you weren't taking some distance.........lol ;)

lark
21st April 2005, 14:24
i'm getting this error during trace.


image format "bmp" is not supported
image format "bmp" is not supported
while executing
"image create photo ::menubuttons::black1pixel -format bmp -data "BM:\000\000\000\000\000\000\0006\000\000\000(\000\000\000\001\000\000\000\001\000\00..."
(procedure "display_preview" line 109)
invoked from within
"display_preview $w.video.f $type $vts $lu $pgc $cell $vobid $cellid $numbuts $vobu_direction"
(procedure "display_cell" line 168)
invoked from within
"display_cell $w $type $vts $lu $pgc $cell $cell_program($cell) $vobid $cellid $sprm8 true $mode 0"
(procedure "display_domain_buttons" line 302)
invoked from within
"display_domain_buttons menu $vts $lu $pgc $sprm8 $mode $show_cell"
(procedure "::menubuttons::display_menu_buttons" line 16)
invoked from within
"::menubuttons::display_menu_buttons $cur_vts $cur_lu $cur_pgc $::tr::sprm(8) trace $::tr::current(Cell)"
(procedure "simulate_play" line 234)
invoked from within
"simulate_play"
(procedure "step" line 10)
invoked from within
"step "
(procedure "::tr::dvd_trace" line 326)
invoked from within
"::tr::dvd_trace"
(command bound to event)


i tried also to disable DirectDraw Overlays but w/o luck.

btw view pgc works fine.
and v 0.5.3b2 worked ok.

regards
t :)

r0lZ
21st April 2005, 18:21
Humm, Sorry. I have removed the BMP library (because it is not correctly supported under Linux) and changed all BMPs used internally to PPMs, but I forgot this one.
I will release a new version soon (probably in 2 or 3 days).

This bug occur in the menu editor, when a letterboxed 16:9 video must be displayed in the background. It will not occur in 4:3, or 16:9 full screen and pan&scan.

r0lZ
21st April 2005, 22:31
PgcEdit 0.5.5 released

Thanks to jeanl, PgcEdit is now able to use PgcEditPreview.exe under Linux, through wine (http://www.winehq.org/).

Also, the preview may run under Mac OSX, through darwine (http://darwine.opendarwin.org). However, it has not been tested yet. I'd like to hear if it works...

Of course, both wine (aka "wine hq") and darwine are free.

PREVIEW (and menu backgrounds) available for Linux, and probably also for Mac OSX. You must install wine (for Linux) or darwine (for Mac OSX) to be able to use it.
Added the Preview -> Use Preview option, to allow Linux or Mac users to turn the preview off, in case of problems with wine or darwine. Although not verry useful, this option is available also under Windows.
Fixed a bug in v0.5.4, which caused the display of 16:9 letterboxed menus in the menu viewer to fail.
When saving menu buttons, if you answered NO at the "Backup VOB?" request, PgcEdit offered to backup the VOB again and again. Fixed.

Enjoy!

arsmori
21st April 2005, 23:34
r0lZ's on a roll.
Your work is greatly appreciated (paypaled you some beer money too).

r0lZ
22nd April 2005, 08:36
Thanks.

@Unix and Mac users: I have started a special thread on PgcEdit's Preview under Linux and Mac OSX (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93355).

CoNS
22nd April 2005, 10:13
Originally posted by r0lZ
Anyway, since I burn my DVDs with PgcEdit, mkisofs and DVD Decrypter, I have never experienced that error, and all my burns are recognized by my players.Isn't this process unneccessarily time and space consuming when you're working with a disc in a VIDEO_TS folder on your harddisk? You're creating an image first and then burning, or do I misunderstand?

lark
22nd April 2005, 10:19
you might think so, but it's not that obvious.
which app are you using to burn?

regards
t :)

r0lZ
22nd April 2005, 10:27
Yes, an image is created on disc before the actual burn. If you have 2 physical HDDs, the time it consumes is around 3 minutes to write a full DVD-5 image. And the image may be automatically deleted after the process, if you wish.
I do it that way essentially to ensure 32K gaps between the IFOs and BUPs. Nero is not able to respect your VTS pointers!

blutach
22nd April 2005, 10:40
Speaking of Nero (and perhaps this belongs in DVD Burning), the latest thing I have found is if you burn in using the UDF/ISO bridge mode, selecting UDF 1.02 (like you should), it doesn't work!!! It even warns you it won't work and that you must select DVD-Video high compatibility mode.

How bad is that?

Regards

CoNS
22nd April 2005, 10:45
Originally posted by r0lZ
I do it that way essentially to ensure 32K gaps between the IFOs and BUPs.I remember when you initially added this feature in PgcEdit that you said that it shouldn't be neccessary to use in all "normal" situations?

blutach
22nd April 2005, 10:56
@CoNS

Read this (http://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?link=735) for an explanation of why this is a good thing. The ISOs stick around for a few minutes only, till your disk is burned and tested.

Regards

blutach
22nd April 2005, 14:48
@r0lZ

Are you sick? No new version out today???? :D :D :D

Regards

lark
22nd April 2005, 14:54
c'mon...
Originally posted by r0lZ:
I need to take some distance with PgcEdit, at least during the springs and summer

i think man deserves some free time (to back up his DVDs) ;) :p :D
or maybe he just got the darn spring flu :confused:

regards
t :)

CoNS
22nd April 2005, 15:17
I bet it's the family (read: The missus!) demanding some attention. It's a classic, and there's NO workaround in the end :p

lark
22nd April 2005, 15:17
and if r0lZ really wants to give us a new relese, here are some of my wishes ;-)

now that almost everything is possible (after i learned from the other thread that i can delete a pgc), would it be possible to create a cell into a pgc? i know it's easy to remove one, but how can i create one?
i can also make a pgc dummy, but how do i convert a dummy pgc to be one that contains some video (& audio)? obviously "new play all title" can do something similar for VTSTs, but how about VTSMs?

another nice feature would be replace pgc or copy pgc over an existing pgc. clone almost does it, but it adds the pgc always to the end.

we already have the delete all commands in the edit menu and in the popup menu that comes from the commands window. would it possible to have it also in the popup menu that comes from the pgc (leftmost) window?

and finally, what i perhaps miss the most is mapping of enter to the ok button in many dialogs (e.g. remove cell).

regards
t :)

r0lZ
22nd April 2005, 15:20
Originally posted by blutach
@r0lZ

Are you sick? No new version out today???? :D :D :D Although released yesterday around midnight, the last version is dated April 22, 2005. It's today! :D

Surf
22nd April 2005, 15:29
whoopie I know this one!

@Lark:

"i can also make a pgc dummy, but how do i convert a dummy pgc to be one that contains some video (& audio)?"

Create that lucky dummy #7 in PgcEdit, exit and go to VobBlanker and replace the dummy with your "I'll be back, hasta whatever" clip. :D

Yes?

lark
22nd April 2005, 16:11
yep, i know that one, but i'd like to do 'everything' in pgcedit.

regards
t :)

r0lZ
22nd April 2005, 17:03
You may use Clone PGC or Play All PGC, and remove the unwanted cells and chapters. However, as you said, it's always created at the end of the titleset. That's needed to avoid the necessity to edit all commands pointing to the follownig PGCs (because the PGC number will be increaded).

Create cell: Not now. I want to rewrite the whole PgcEditor, or at least the cell list. Things will much more easier for me later.

Delete All Commands popup menu in PGC Selector. Yes, it's easy. But I don't like to put potentially dangerous commands everywhere.

OK buttons and Enter key. Difficult. I may add an option to automatically select the OK button with the space bar, but it is not possible to automate this task for all requesters. I need some time...

r0lZ
23rd April 2005, 00:10
PgcEdit 0.5.6 beta 1 available. Added the command "Delete All Commands in PGC" in the PGC Selector popup menu.
Added the utility "Delete All Commands in Domain", also available in the PGC Selector popup menu.
Added the function "Delete All Commands in DVD", available only by right-clicking on an empty line in the PGC Selector.
Added the utility "Blank out all Title PGCs in DVD", that calls the "Blank Out All PGCs in Domain" utility in sequence for all title domains.
Added an option to change the default colors of the GUI, requested by a Linux user.

@blutach: Version date is April, 23, 2005. Still one version per day! :p

jeanl
23rd April 2005, 00:26
r0lZ,
What's the use of " Added the utility "Blank out all Title PGCs in DVD", that calls the "Blank Out All PGCs in Domain" utility in sequence for all title domains." ?
jeanl
EDIT: Ooops! I just saw that you answered my question in the other thread! GREAT! Answer is: you have to confirm for each VTS, so you can skip any VTS you don't want to blank... Just what I needed!

jeanl
23rd April 2005, 01:18
Originally posted by r0lZ
PgcEdit 0.5.6 beta 1 available. Added the command "Delete All Commands in PGC" in the PGC Selector popup menu.
Added the utility "Delete All Commands in Domain", also available in the PGC Selector popup menu.
Added the function "Delete All Commands in DVD", available only by right-clicking on an empty line in the PGC Selector.
Added the utility "Blank out all Title PGCs in DVD", that calls the "Blank Out All PGCs in Domain" utility in sequence for all title domains.
Added an option to change the default colors of the GUI, requested by a Linux user.

@blutach: Version date is April, 23, 2005. Still one version per day! :p
r0lZ, I don't see 0.5.6 beta 1 on
http://home.tiscali.be/debie.roland/pgcedit/versions/

:(
Is it just me?
jeanl

blutach
23rd April 2005, 01:28
Originally posted by jeanl
r0lZ,
What's the use of " Added the utility "Blank out all Title PGCs in DVD", that calls the "Blank Out All PGCs in Domain" utility in sequence for all title domains." ?
jeanl
EDIT: Ooops! I just saw that you answered my question in the other thread! GREAT! Answer is: you have to confirm for each VTS, so you can skip any VTS you don't want to blank... Just what I needed! Just what I need too jean!

And the betas are only on the videohelp mirror - the tiscali site should be replaced by the videohelp one in your favourites.

@r0lZ - thanks for implementing blank out all titles and the new beta - looking forward to B2 tomorrow. :)

Regards

jeanl
23rd April 2005, 01:32
Thanks blutach! no smily for embarrassed, but I am! ;)
Jeanl

lark
23rd April 2005, 05:04
this b1 is too good to be true
t :)

r0lZ
23rd April 2005, 09:15
Originally posted by blutach
And the betas are only on the videohelp mirror - the tiscali site should be replaced by the videohelp one in your favourites. Yes, the homepage at tiscali.be is limitted in size, and is not verry reliable, especially since Tiscali has been sold to Scarlet. Furthermore, the Tiscali URL may change in the future.
I have just swapped the Tiscali and VideoHelp links order in my signature. I consider now that VideoHelp is the main site, and Tiscali the mirror.
Please update your bookmarks!

jeanl
23rd April 2005, 17:50
OK great, I"ll update my link on the MenuShrink home page! :)
jeanl

Video Dude
25th April 2005, 18:08
I have been stripping VOB-ID's using IfoEdit for years. Recently, I used PgcEdit to blank menus and have been very impressed. This got me wondering if I could blank portions of titlesets with PgcEdit.


Example: Say you have 3 episodes (VOB-ID 1, VOB-ID 2, VOB-ID 3) in the following files:
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB
VTS_01_3.VOB
VTS_01_4.VOB
VTS_01_5.VOB
VTS_01_6.VOB

Can I use PgcEdit to blank VOB-ID 2, thus reducing the files to:
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB
VTS_01_3.VOB
VTS_01_4.VOB

jeanl
25th April 2005, 18:10
You can probably kill the playback of that episode, but that won't free any space on the DVD. That's a job for vobblanker...

jeanl

blutach
26th April 2005, 00:52
You can replace the cells containing the episode in the PGC Editor screen (just click on the Vob/Cell ID next tpo the right pointing arrow on the right and assign a new cell ID to it), but that results in the original cells still being present and needing to be removed with IfoEdit or VobBlanker. Since you need to do this anyway, you may as well blank with VobBlanker.

Regards

Doom9
26th April 2005, 19:56
I have a question.. as my title says I'm clueless but I need to write some news. The changelog is kind of ambiguous.. it doesn't say of those options/utilities/etc are new, or if they are just exposed via yet another way that is listed in the changelog.

e.g. Added the utility "Delete All Commands in Domain", also available in the PGC Selector popup menu.does that mean that "delete all commands in domain" is a new utility, or an existing utility that is now alsoexposed in the PGC Selector popup menu. Considering how many features PgcEdit has, I gather that even existing PgcEdit users might not always be able to place the changelog if they've not used/noticed a function before.

lark
26th April 2005, 20:03
it's a new one ;-)
regards
t :)

r0lZ
26th April 2005, 20:10
The ASCII changelog (available in PgcEdit's help menu or on my homepage) distinguish if the feature is a new one, or simply something changed:

A. = Added feature
R. = Removed
E. = Enhancement
F. = Fixed bug

The changelog posted here in the forum don't have this precision. I'll leave it in the future.

BTW, Thanks for your news, Doom9.

Doom9
26th April 2005, 21:03
but the history on your homepage only mentions the official builds.. no betas :(

r0lZ
26th April 2005, 22:25
Yes. Betas are semi-private. I announce them here, because there are some good beta testers around, but I don't want to spread them in the whole world, because they are... betas! This is why I summarize all changes from the last official release in the history.

Anyway, in the future, I will leave the A/R/E/F initials in the changelog, including for betas.

FredThompson
27th April 2005, 00:14
Originally posted by blutach
@CoNS

Read this (http://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?link=735) for an explanation of why this is a good thing. The ISOs stick around for a few minutes only, till your disk is burned and tested.

Regards So....how is this enforced on mixed-format discs?

As an example, I frequently put scans or support websites on the disc with the content and burn as a regular ISO data disc with Nero 6. The method mentioned above work only for the AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS directories, right? IOW, you can't have other content and enforce the gap, yes?

r0lZ
27th April 2005, 00:29
I think that the DVD-ROM files are stored after the DVD-Video files, and therefore won't interfere with them. Anyway, the 32K gaps are honoured also if you add DVD-ROM files, at least in the DVD-Video part.

Take care! I wonder if you may burn DVD-Video files as regular DVD-Rom data! You will probably not be able to play these DVDs on most standalones. You must burn DVD-Video as DVD-Video, or DVD-ROM UDF+ISO. Do not use DVD-ROM ISO only mode! And anyway, it is possible to add DVD-ROM files in a DVD-Video compilation, with Nero as well as PgcEdit.

FredThompson
27th April 2005, 02:08
I haven't had problems with any modern standalone player.

The files I save aren't in the VIDEO_TS directory. Is that what you thought I meant?

r0lZ
27th April 2005, 10:09
A standalone player is supposed to use the UDF filesystem, while a PC player will use the ISO filesystem. This is why a DVD-Video must be burned in the correct mode.
Furthermore, if you burn the VIDEO_TS directory on an ISO only compilation, the BUP files will probably be placed before the IFOs, in alphabetical order. The correct order is IFO VOB BUP.
A (modern) settop player able to play XviD/DivX files, will be able to play your DVD as well, as these players use the ISO filesystem to be able to access the AVI files. But a standard player will probably not.
Anyway, if you use ISO only, your burned DVDs are out of standard.

FredThompson
27th April 2005, 18:38
Ah, ok, that makes a lot of sense. I'll do them as UDF+ISO from now on.

mp3boy
28th April 2005, 09:50
there is one small bug in pgcedit in tracemode.
Which is when you for example select a subtitle number 3 in the menu button and go to playback the movie and there is a short intoduction such as fbi or rate notice in separate VTSM which does not have 3 number and continue its play back to main VTSM it suppose to flash the subtitle selection (means if there is bug in dvd) and usuall player such as powerdvd or any standalone player will do the same means the dvd has bug, but in pgcedit preview mode it will still remember the subtitle even if it passes vtsm without subtitle track or different number of subtitle track.

r0lZ
28th April 2005, 10:26
I'm not sure it is a bug in PgcEdit.
On my Sony standalone, the last SetSTN is always remembered, but used only if the stream exists.
However, I will do some new tests, and change the PgcEdit's behaviour if needed.

mp3boy
28th April 2005, 11:00
is it possible to define prohibited or allowed operation ? there was an option just to enable all , but for example I want to enable all except fast forwaring or nx/prv chapter button over a menu or theatrical trailer.

other than that I don't know why a dvd that I compiled with adobe encore does not allow root/chapter/subtitle/angel/... buttons to work in powerdvd or others... how to fix it? is it possible?

thanks

lark
28th April 2005, 11:06
yes, sure.
double click the pgc and hit the ... after prohibited user operations (or just type the value if you are a wizard).

regards
t :)

mp3boy
28th April 2005, 11:14
is it a joke post or something wizardish I dont' understand? I remember I saw how to edit them in dvdremake but no so sure if pgcedit or ifoedit has it.

lark
28th April 2005, 12:13
take a look at pgcedit GUI and you'll see. it's easy. even i can do it...

regards
t :)

mp3boy
28th April 2005, 12:44
found it under UTILITY menu and FILTER PROHIBITED USER OPERATIONS

thanks

lark
28th April 2005, 12:47
that's a different thing
t :)

r0lZ
28th April 2005, 16:12
lark is right.

The "Filter Prohibited User Ops" is a macro allowing to selectively disable some of the PUOs in selected domains. This tool is only able to disable prohibited user ops.

If you want to set some of them, you must double-click on the PGC to open the PGC editor. Then, click on the "..." button next to the PUOs value (in the upper left corner of the editor window).