looking for a cartoon source for the next codec comparison

[iwod]

ARHHH!!.. Always no time when you really need it.!
I am on my finaly year project as well as packing. So i don't know where all my DVDs have gone.

But from my memory GaoGaiGar Final may fit. So if anyone have the DVD or seen it before may want to give your opinion?

[darkavatar1470]

It's worth a try, lots of action and effects....but any one that hasn't seen the TV series won't be able to understand it....anyway, I'd suggest ep 2 & 8, which I remember has the most action...

[yokem55]

For more of a film, I might reccomend the Bambi DVD for a possible source. The background artwork has a lot of detailed and complex textures to it, and there are several scenes with a lot of compex motion (rain, snow, fire, etc), not to mention there is some film grain in there to top it all off. The film is only 70 minutes long, so there isn't much trouble getting it onto one cd, but there is still a lot of room for the codecs to improve in how it handles everything on that flick...

[riggits]

I'm a little surprised that nobody's mentioned Howl's Moving Castle (due in November, looks tricky), Escaflowne, Ninja Scroll (maybe too short?).

[shpitz]

i can upload a dvb sample on an anime for you guys to play with if needed.

[Shinigami-Sama]

ninja scroll has to much nudity for doom9's preferances,

[Mug Funky]

I'm a little surprised that nobody's mentioned Howl's Moving Castle (due in November, looks tricky), Escaflowne, Ninja Scroll (maybe too short?).

it's not on DVD yet.

though it will be a lovely lovely PAL speedup, which is beyond rare for Ghibli. it's out november in the US too? cool. looks like one of those simultaneous worldwide release things. i saw a subbed japanese 35mm version in april :)

as far as complexity, it will be about equal to mononoke in encoder difficulty i reckon. also, the story isn't as nice as mononoke IMHO.

the animation is pretty damn good though.

[Shinigami-Sama]

hmm
what about vampire hunter D:Bloodlust?
I havn't gotten ahold of a dvd yet to check, I forgot when I rented it a while back ><

[ToiletDuck]

My vote is for shrek 2. Brights and darks, individual hairs on the puss, and lots of pores on all the characters.

[Shinigami-Sama]

animated not rendered
shrek is to realistic, the codec can't tell the diff

[Haze_NZ]

My vote goes for Family Guy :P

[CZroe]

I really like Princess Mononoke as a quality comparison choice but I would have to give Steamboy my new "top honors". There is WAY too much detail and stuff going on in the background throughout the movie. Not to mention LOADS of steam for transparancy artifacts to rear their ugly head. Sony already sells the movie in h.264 on PSP UMD.

My vote goes for Family Guy :P

Ha! Family Guy CAN have some encoding quality nightmares (http://www.humanstuffing.com/1/AHA!.avi) though.

[hellfred]

I really like Princess Mononoke as a quality comparison choice but I would have to give Steamboy my new "top honors". There is WAY too much detail and stuff going on in the background throughout the movie. Not to mention LOADS of steam for transparancy artifacts to rear their ugly head. Sony already sells the movie in h.264 on PSP UMD.

Steamboy really should prove to be a hard one. And it is not offensive in any way, so there schould not be any problems for doom9 having to watch it over and over again.

Hellfred

[Episode]

My vote goes to "The Place Promised in Our Early Days". You can read the review of the movie in here http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/reviews/display.php?id=794. Basically it's 1½ hour scifi anime movie that has been fully animated with CGI... by one man and he's Powermac G5.

[Doom9]

Princess Mononokeis way too easy.. didn't I already say that? If XviD has no problem bringing it to one CD then there's really no point in using a source. And I'd very much like a TV series due to the length (which translates to encoding time). Right now I'm down to a 50 minute source which is already a major improvement over the 2h+ I was working with initially, but a 20-25 minute thing would be ideal. And in absence of a DVD (Steamboy) I find it kinda hard to judge how a movie can be compressed ;)

[Sgt_Strider]

Any idea when the next codec comparison will be completed?

[Doom9]

Any idea when the next codec comparison will be completed?Yes: when it's done ;) As a general rule that you should apply on this board: never ask for a deadline for a non commercial endeavor.

[Sgt_Strider]

Yes: when it's done ;) As a general rule that you should apply on this board: never ask for a deadline for a non commercial endeavor.

Okay..

[Shinigami-Sama]

at least he gave you a warning this time mate, I've heard stories of what he did one poor sod a couple comparises ago :P

[johnh123]

So is it harder to get a good encode with animation than with a regular movie?

[Shinigami-Sama]

dependant on the source yes and no

[darkavatar1470]

My vote goes to "The Place Promised in Our Early Days". You can read the review of the movie in here http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/reviews/display.php?id=794. Basically it's 1½ hour scifi anime movie that has been fully animated with CGI... by one man and he's Powermac G5.uhm, that was his last 30min OVA Whisper of the Stars..... (not sure, forgot the Eng name) This movie isn't done all by himself, he is the director and art supervisor.

The whole thing is animated by adobe premium from the booklet in my DVD

Its mostly consisted of stills & slow pans, I guess it won't be too hard on the codec unless we use a larger frame size and/or high audio bitrate=low video bitrate......I'm too busy these days, haven't been able to encode this, Steam Boy & Apple Seed, which I think are all good candidates.

[Smile2]

My vote goes to "The Place Promised in Our Early Days". You can read the review of the movie in here http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/reviews/display.php?id=794. Basically it's 1½ hour scifi anime movie that has been fully animated with CGI... by one man and he's Powermac G5.

I think this might be a good candidate, while the animation is slow paced, it has a lot of sudden light effect, make it hard to maintain the image quality.

[Doom9]

So is it harder to get a good encode with animation than with a regular movie?I have yet to find a source where I'd sign that statement.. I believe the reverse is generally true.

[Doom9]

well, I was going for Dead Leaves until this week-end when I encoded and watched Nausicaa, Steamboy and Blood. All taxed XviD pretty good so in the end I picked Steamboy. That means a lot more encoding time but I changed the comparison a bit to compensate for that..