NuMenu4u Scenarist Version

[matus2003]

to Zeul:
again the same problem with Lawrence Disc 2 - error when importing into Scenarist. The last error is the same:
---------------------------------------------
Info Importing VTS_7_
Error Class(Sub-Picture) Tag(Data End Time, 7203) failed to paste
Error Class(Display Start) Tag(Start Time To Video, -255839543) failed to paste
Error Class(Display Start) Tag(Start Time, 7202) failed to paste
Error Class(Display Start) Tag(Duration, 7203) failed to paste
Error Data file() does not exist in VTS_7_
Error Importing failed
---------------------------------------------
Again I can send the script if you are interested. I'll keep testing, because soft and the idea of using Scenarist looks very promissing.

[wmansir]

I watched the program this time and figured out where the program error occured. It actually occcurs after a different error.

The initial error occurs after Scenarist finishes, the ifos are updated and it is at the stage "moving temp files" or something like that. Then a pop up box syas

Runtime Error 13 type mismatch

I then clicked onto another program and when I clicked back on Numenu (on the taskbar) to get the exact error message it generated the program error I reported earlier.

If there are any log files, or any more information you need just ask.

[influenza]

After a false start (two menus not compiling properly) I had two succesfull compiles. Program works just fine and result is good.

I guess I was pushing too hard on my first two (fairly complex menus) :D

[D3s7]

Originally posted by wmansir
The initial error occurs after Scenarist finishes, the ifos are updated and it is at the stage "moving temp files" or something like that. Then a pop up box syas

Runtime Error 13 type mismatch

If there are any log files, or any more information you need just ask.

At this point your reauthored menu is actually complete.... instead of deleting the temp files when done this version renames so if your working dir ia MYMOVIE it will move the numenu temp files to MYMOVIE_TMP

however, if you look in MYMOVIE\VIDEO_TS, you should have your new menu file. You may need to manually copy in the remainder of the ifo's/menu files though

[wmansir]

You are right D3s7. I checked out the results and they are almost 100% perfect. There were only 2 small problems.

1. During one of the short transition videos there appeared to be a large black, barely transparent subpicture covering almost the entire screen for part of the playback. If I compare the two menus in MenuEdit, the original is

VOBID 5:
Cell ID: 1 (1 buttons)

The Numenu is

VOBID 5:
Cell ID: 1 (1 buttons)
Cell ID: 1 (0 buttons)


The first Cell ID 1 has the obstructing subpicture (I guess, couldn't confirm it in Scenarist because I'm not familiar with enough with the menu building aspect).

2. Some menus would "loose" there buttons (and subpictures) after 3-4 seconds. This only happened on two specific menus. One of these would sometimes keep it's buttons, depending on how I got there.

The DVD I'm testing is This is Spinal Tap: Special Edition. Again, if you need any more info just ask.


Wes

[jel]

@ wmansir,

the first issue sounds like an incorrect transperancy on the subpicture settings. ie the background colour is set to black and probably a contrast of 90% plus.

the second issue sounds very much like the '(with Stop)' issue that RB pointed out on the first page of this thread. it also does not surprise me that their 'activation' time appears to change depending on how you access that menu - i have noticed this also on BOV titles.

if you were up for it, you could probably fix both of these issues in scenarist by setting numenu to import the script for you, make the required changes, then run the ifoupdate .bat file following compiling.

1. locate vobid_05 in the track editor and check the subpicture settings in the simulation window, and see if the background etc are incorrectly set. change as required.

2. find the menu that is not displaying the buttons correctly in the track editor, and set all of the subpictures to (no Stop) in the property browser

rock on
j

ps btw FANTASTIC movie! required viewing for all wannabee rock muso's everywhere :D

[hendrix]

Originally posted by jel
ps btw FANTASTIC movie! required viewing for all wannabee rock muso's everywhere :D
my amp goes up to 11...hhahahaha

[boombastic]

I found this problem:if i use doitfast4u which launch automatically NuMenu4U scenaist version,this app. seems to crash while it's creating the scenarist script:it creates a file .scp but of only 15kb and doesn't close unless i close it manuallt even if i checked the close automatically box.

[vtwin0001]

Well... this is cool

And if all of you knew the pain it is to demux all the menus, take the .ac3 and the subpicture (for the buttons) to Scenarist manually...

I have been converting PAL DVDs to NTSC DVD (menus and all) this is a great app to get started :D

[marpada]

Hi all

Is there any mirror for downloading NuMenu4U? I can't download more than a few kb from the site without dropping the conexion.

[RB]

Originally posted by wmansir

1. During one of the short transition videos there appeared to be a large black, barely transparent subpicture covering almost the entire screen for part of the playback.
I have the same problem with Donnie Darko PAL R2. The menu intro (which is also used as a transistion between submenus) is covered by a solid blue subpicture with a small "hole" for an invisible button in the lower left corner. This is in VobId 1 in VTS_01_0.VOB. Also the button highlight colors are wrong. In the original they are light-blue (almost white), in the reauthored menu they are brownish/greenish.

Another problem is with VTS_03_0.VOB menu on this DVD. The original menu VOB has 82 VobIds, but in track editor, I see only 22 tracks for VTS_3. In the reauthored menu, it seems some menus are missing. For instance selecting Extras - DVD Credits displays a still menu with a "< Extras >" selection at the lower right. Clicking any of the '<' or '>' buttons causes the player to stop whereas in the original menu it loops through several pages of DVD credits.

[Zeul]

@RB

Please send script and relevant ifo's, plus the relevant bmp's and sst. I believe this is the first time the actual highlight colours have been incorrect, the contrast I know about.
Either there are a lot of fake vobid's in VTS_3_0.VOB or a major error has occured; this may well be an error in the script in which case scenarist often 'jumps' forward to the next 'object'. in this case the layout, hence a lot of tracks will be missed.
Mail address as per our previous pm.
It has been suggested that the highlight & sub times should be extended to the end of scene for all cells and therefore remove all stops. The problem with this is not every menu runs to the end of the scene, therefore a stop is needed. So at present i have to be guided by the sst file (If the sub is to be displayed until the end of the cell, and the timing falls within the last cell of the current vobid, then by default it seems that the sst always shows a duration of 3secs - if this occurs then the sub duration is extended to the cell end.)

Zeul

[RB]

I sent email, thanks for all your support!

Originally posted by Zeul
It has been suggested that the highlight & sub times should be extended to the end of scene for all cells and therefore remove all stops. The problem with this is not every menu runs to the end of the scene, therefore a stop is needed. So at present i have to be guided by the sst file (If the sub is to be displayed until the end of the cell, and the timing falls within the last cell of the current vobid, then by default it seems that the sst always shows a duration of 3secs - if this occurs then the sub duration is extended to the cell end.)
I see, no easy way out ... probably write your own subtitle parsing/extraction routines?

[AlanPartridge]

Aha!

I've been using this 'ruddy great piece of software to look at the menu structure in scenarist of Alan Partridge Series 2 Disc 1 (R2 PAL) but everytime it gets to Processing SST Subpicture Files it just 'ruddy sits there doing nothing.

Any ideas why it is doing this (I have tried it about 5 times up to now)? I have the log file if you want it.

Alan

[Zeul]

very strange, i know a couple of ppl have noted a mismatch error, but not the program hanging. Do no error messages show up at all. Check pm

[Master Yoda]

I was wondering if it would be possible if under quality settings you could add a use template option, as the 3 that are there all use those filters which i would prefer not to use.

Just wondered.

[Zeul]

@Master Yoda
don't see why not, i will look into that for you

[Chubmeister]

Hi Alan!

I have also done the very same disk, quite some time ago, infact it was THE disk that prompted me to start using Numenu4u due to the size of the menu, what a cool menu it is too, very clever!

I don't recall any problems with it but it was a while back, probably DOIF4U pre 1.4.0 and Numenu 1.02 perhaps. CCE 2.5 and avisynth 2.53.

Have you tried the non-scenarist version of Numenu4u?

I'll give mine a run tomorrow night and let you know if I get the same error.

Chubs

[AlanPartridge]

Chubs

It's my favourite menu on all the DVDs I have - cashback!

Zeul - what a fantastic application you have given us, what more can I say!!

Looking at what gets created it does actually appear to process all of the subpictures as they are in the folders ok. The last three lines of the log file are below:

15/04/2004 20:18:54 dvd2avi check started for DEMUXED_CELLID
15/04/2004 20:18:54 Dvd2avi search started
15/04/2004 20:18:58 3s display time noted, 00:00:00:00 , 00:00:03:00 , 1

Hope this means something to you.

Alan

[Lex55]

Hi

I have a training disk on my pc that i want to load to scenarist without saving existing menus.

tried to use NUMenu4u but have to problems

Prog load option only from disk and not from HD.

Need an option that probably only merge the files without re encode them.

Please advice a newbie

[D3s7]

In theory, if you select rejig as your encoder but set the compression size (or shrink size forget which it is) to 0% compression or 100% size I'd think it just copy the files....

[Lex55]

Thanks

How can i work around the reading from HD instead of DVD Drive.

BTW Get Error 13 When task is finished

[influenza]

create an iso from your files on the HD and mount this image

[Master Yoda]

@Zeul
Nice one.

[Zeul]

@AlanPartridge
have all the bmp's been created or is the subtitles folder full of idx and sub files only?

[AlanPartridge]

Zeul

All of the bmps have been created.

[Lex55]

Trying to copy DVD to scenarist to re Author

Disk is about 4.2 GB and don't need any compression

select Compile Options "Complete Scenarist control / Instruct Scenarist .."

Encoder Tested Either CCE & Rejig

In Menu language select all VOB's (Size 0 MB???)

Assign save directory and Start

Prog get error 13 and close. Sometimes creates the Scenarist file but no other prog are running (DoItFast4U).

Sometimes No Error 13 but no Scenarist Script...

Please Advice

BTW Tested few DVD's both Pal & NTSC

[D3s7]

Lex : you sure your using latest version? you should get a little error window w/ latest version that has some detail

[fourtyfour]

servus...

Just wanna know if somebody else get a "runtime error 13" while running NuMenu4U?

It´s happen to different times with different movies.

F.E: Bad Boys 2 menu; runtime error pops up while "processing subpicture SSTfile..."
If I´m trying Analyze that, NuMenu4U stops after "Scenarist started with chosen option"

I don´t know exactly what´s gong wrong. Do I have old software or why does this type mismatch comes up?


BTW: Newest version of NuMenu4U

[gizmau]

same for me - runtime error 13.

pulp fiction pal rc2

[Chubmeister]

Lots of runtime error 13, mods seem to have got over these, am getting this also on LotR extended versions, fellowship and two towers.

Can someone post how they managed to fix this pls or what versions of other software you are using/changed to using?

cheers ears

[Zeul]

i have located and fixed most of the runtime errors. The one that happens when 'processing sst files', has been particulary difficult to fix and has resulted in a complete re-write of that function. When finished I will advise.

[fourtyfour]

servus...

If you need any help in testing or log files, screenshots ... let me know.

Thanks fpr this amaizing tool. :)


Regards

[Lex55]

Thanks Zeul

Please let us know when you finish so we can in testing

[Sn8kbordin]

Originally posted by Lex55


Disk is about 4.2 GB and don't need any compression

select Compile Options "Complete Scenarist control / Instruct Scenarist .."

Just make an Image of the DVD and record it w/ DVD Decrypter. You don't have to do anything more if you just want to copy DVD.

[Lex55]

The reson i wan't to load the dvd into Scenarist is that i need to change some nevigation commands and menu.

[timekills]

...but I really appreciated the old IfoUpdate-like integration into NuMenu4u. When I was done with Scenarist, being able to just click a few buttons in NM4U and have it automagically merge and update my files to create the finalized VIDEO_TS folder was nice.


Please bring that back! :D

[Ripe73]

Is the bug with dvddecrypter making a first pass then nothing more fixed??...:) ...

[fourtyfour]

servus...

A couple of things:

- is it possible to make more than one menu mit NuMenu4U?
Sometimes, I wanna have german and englisch menus but I don´t want spanish

- stop NuMenu4U; is it possible to stop all processes with one click?
If you make an mistake and want to stop, NuMenu4U continues with dvddecrypter or CCE

- small Menus. I just made K19 with DIF4U and Numenu4U. NuMenu4U opens correct, but after opening it want to close immediately (do you want to close; are you sure?... ) After pressing yes, it doesn´t remember that I have a (small 30mb) menu. So I have an movie with 4.37 GB plus x (the menu files), which isn´t writeable.

[Zeul]

@fourtyfour
you can always select ALL for the menu languages, then in scenarist just remove the Spanish language folder.

[Zeul]

Latest Build now available:

Bug Fixes:
Correction to the GPRM figure (this was causing a mismatch error);
Drop-frame is now correctly reported in the script;
Compensation for 0.4s Scenarist error;
Rewritten sst analysis routines - each cell is now analysed, so
vsrip is now run multiple times;
Fixed extra PGC's being created in the script;
Additional check is now performed on the sst, a comparison is made
to the original VOB, to check that there is no sst error;
Correction on NTSC titles where the sub display was being set
before the scene time - this gave a import crash when linking
buttons;
Removed one of the dummy detection routines - it was flawed;
Aspect Ratio now correctly determined;
Updated the ifoupdating routine for Video_TS.ifo

Enhancements
Assets in Scenarist are now imported into folders for better
clarity;
A large amount of data has been stripped from the script - better
import speed;
Alteration to conversion rule in scenarist - better clarity of
button edges, and highlight contrast and colours now seem almost
perfect;
AC3 files now checked for corruption and fixed prior to import;
Each bitmap is now analysed, and if no image is present (ie a full
blue screen) then this sub is removed from the script;
Setting a menu threshold value of 0 will now process every VOB
(if it exists) - This is the start of format conversion routines
Auxillary Files upgraded to latest versions.
Small improvement to the GUI

NB For the moment it is undetermined how good the new ac3enc.dll
is.It is reported as being more compatible than the previous
version, but nevertheless the option of AC3 re-encode has been
removed. If the menu has PCM audio this will still be processed.

Zeul

[Tore]

Hey Cool

I can't wait to try the new version.

[fourtyfour]

servus...

Number: 9
Description: Subscript out of range

EXE Name: NuMenu4U
EXE Path: C:\Programme\DVD\NuMenu4U
EXE Version: Version 1.4.7

Call Stack (lowest level first)

MainForm::NewProcessSST (line 75)


That´s what I get with newest version an BadBoys 2 RC2

LogFile:

24.04.2004 12:18:20 Defaultsettings
24.04.2004 12:18:20 vts_tree_parent= K:\VIDEO_TS
24.04.2004 12:18:21 vts_tree_child_oversize= VIDEO_TS.VOB - 33MBchk1
24.04.2004 12:18:21 vts_tree_child_oversize= VTS_01_0.VOB - 471MBchk2
24.04.2004 12:18:21 vts_tree_child_undersize= VTS_02_0.VOB - 0MBchk3
24.04.2004 12:18:21 vts_tree_child_undersize= VTS_03_0.VOB - 0MBchk4
24.04.2004 12:18:21 vts_tree_child_undersize= VTS_04_0.VOB - 0MBchk5
24.04.2004 12:18:21 vts_tree_child_undersize= VTS_05_0.VOB - 0MBchk6
24.04.2004 12:18:21 vts_tree_child_undersize= VTS_06_0.VOB - 0MBchk7
24.04.2004 12:18:21 vts_tree_child_undersize= VTS_07_0.VOB - 0MBchk8
24.04.2004 12:18:21 vts_tree_child_undersize= VTS_08_0.VOB - 0MBchk9
24.04.2004 12:18:21 vts_tree_child_undersize= VTS_09_0.VOB - 0MBchk10
24.04.2004 12:18:21 vts_tree_child_undersize= VTS_10_0.VOB - 0MBchk11
24.04.2004 12:18:21 2
24.04.2004 12:18:21 avisynth= 2.5.4.0

Maybe it helps

Regards

Edit:

Looks good on my other problem with stopping numenu4u on short menus.
Great job man :)

[Tore]

Tried reencoding the menu of Resident Evil Pal region 2.

I'm getting this error when "processing SST Files & Analyzing bitmapes"

Number: 9
Description: Subscript out of range

EXE Name: NuMenu4U
EXE Path: C:\Program Files\NuMenu4U_newesttt
EXE Version: Version 1.4.7

Call Stack (lowest level first)

MainForm::NewProcessSST (line 75)

I could send you all the "stuff" if you want?
(ifofiles, logfiles and so on..)

[RB]

Originally posted by Zeul
Each bitmap is now analysed, and if no image is present (ie a full
blue screen) then this sub is removed from the script;

Hmm, unconditionally? I mean, even if there is a button depending on the sub? Going to know soon ... :)

[Zeul]

Tore & fourtyfour
interesting you both have the same problem, can you send a dir listing of the subtitle folder please
Zeul

[fourtyfour]

servus...

What I found in D_Video_TS\SUBTITLES
Hope this is what you want.

005_01_-1.sst
005_01_-2.sst
005_01_Normal-0.sst
005_01_Normal-0_0001.bmp
005_01-Normal-0_0002.bmp
006_01.sst
006_01_-1.sst
006_01_-2.sst
006_01_Normal-0.sst
006_01_Normal-0_0001.bmp
006_01_Normal-0_0002.bmp
v5_c1.ifx
v5_c1.sub
v6_c1.idx
v6_c1.sub


I also got an error while using NuMenu4U via DIF4U.
But it only happend once. If I should get this error again, I´ll let you know.

[Zeul]

exactly thanks

[Trahald]

Well.. im happy to report. Matrix 1 (R1) now process without error and loads into scenarist 3.0 perfect and compiled (2.6 wouldnt import the script, although afaik numenu is being developed on 3.0)

[D3s7]

actually 2.7... too many people have noted issues w/ 3.0 and alignment issues w/ subs/buttons/scene locations