FairUse 2.6 is out

[~bT~]

I', just searching for a guide to FU. Is there any guide available somewhere? *I would highly appreciate it! :)*

Thanks...
FairUse Guide (http://www.dvd-guides.com/content/view/34/59/)

[rack04]

I just tried to encode a 4.32 GB ISO using external XVID codec, highest quality setting, AC3 audio, with 750mb target size, except the output size ended up being 400mb. Is there something I'm not doing right because of the large undersize?

[celtic_druid]

As I said, there could be complications using an external XviD build due to profiles. Older builds use "DXN HT" instead of "Home Theatre", which would break the official build. It would break the ESS mode with my build and the lack of MTK profiles would break the quality/speed mode. Basically you would end up with SP@L3 video.

[rack04]

As I said, there could be complications using an external XviD build due to profiles. Older builds use "DXN HT" instead of "Home Theatre", which would break the official build. It would break the ESS mode with my build and the lack of MTK profiles would break the quality/speed mode. Basically you would end up with SP@L3 video.

I will try the internal XVID codec and report back. Thanks for your help.

[jjwerrett]

well been trying fairuse for ages and got to say the custom matrix i saved from one the forums on this site does seem work a little not that much but hey all is better than nothing, on the whole though i still would like a 2GB file to be better quality but apparently to a older version of fairuse divx 3 version. that a to high a file size leads to waste in video quality!!! is this true as i stick to 2GB on all my vids and the odd short film does look worse than a 2hr film encoded :(

i wish druid could do a build with the lastest xvid build or that which is built into fairuse so it dont break the profiles and settings when using the external codec. Has anyone tried the HD resolutions on DVD's and if have what they think of the resizer to a large image?

I have stuck to 192k mp3 audio as i cant get use to this container and dont no how u do chapters in the video if someone could link to a guide to do them be great like my mate can do on his apple pc using 3ivx codec on his for quicktime

[celtic_druid]

I don't think the XviD CVS has been updated since my last FU package so it does contain the latest XviD.

[jjwerrett]

Druid can you put the link to your lastest build again please as i have done a fresh reinstall on Laptop and not installed any external xvid codec so gona use your fresh build on it to try out so everything be at its default.

can you upload a custom matrix that will work well for encoded of 2GB in size as any film i do of any length will be set to 192K audio and 2GB filesize overall.

Unless you recommend just using the default xvid you have implemented in your fairuse build with no custom matrix :)

will wait on your reply

[spectra]

Druid can you put the link to your lastest build again
try to read 10 posts up. there are the links. :rolleyes:

[Yo]

Can someone please explain to me what is the difference in using external and internal codecs? I use fairuse to convert my DVD movies to xvid avi for use on my WM5 PocketPC with TCPMP. Thanks.

Hello Rack

What settings do you use to get decent quality with low file size PPC videos (320x240) using FairUse Wizard?

Does the celtic_druid version work better than the official one for that purpose?

I've usually used AutoGK (XVID) for that purpose, setting the quality setting to between 20-30, setting the resolution width to 320, and often reducing the audio quality below the default 128kbps, sometimes encoding mono audio.

When I tried FU before, I didn't have as good results, but I don't know if I found good settings for it. So, I wonder how you usually set it for PPC videos, and whether you have got decent results (with small file size) that way.

One suggestion for the developers--it would be nice if FU could open a DVD directory on the HD, not only open a disc or an .iso file. For instance, one might have already ripped a disc to make a copy of it, but also want to make an .avi file for PPC. In doing the latter, it would be quicker to open the already-ripped DVD folder on the HD, rather than having FU rip and decrypt the disk again, wasting time re-doing what's already been done. Any possibility that could be added?

[Yo]

What kind of settings does the Ipod profile use?

[stevodude]

One suggestion for the developers--it would be nice if FU could open a DVD directory on the HD, not only open a disc or an .iso file. For instance, one might have already ripped a disc to make a copy of it, but also want to make an .avi file for PPC. In doing the latter, it would be quicker to open the already-ripped DVD folder on the HD, rather than having FU rip and decrypt the disk again, wasting time re-doing what's already been done. Any possibility that could be added?

you can mount a video_ts folder as a 'virtual DVD' using several freeware apps from the net, then you FU to access that 'virtual drive'

I've done that in the past, but not sure what app I used as I nuked my PC recently.

maybe something like mountvd (http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Hard-Disk-Utils/MountVD.shtml), will work?... It's freeware, probably other freeware apps that'd do that.

[~bT~]

It doesnt take very long to make an iso file with DVD Shrink from the video_ts folder on the HD. 3 to 5 mins max for me.

[evil ryu]

Yesterday, when I tried to encode a movie, FairUse gave me an error: xvid.dll not found and then crashed.

I'm watching another XviD when I launched this encode. Is this the matter? :confused:

I'm using the embedded XviD encoder.


Thanks.

Bye.

[celtic_druid]

xvid.dll is devapi3. The embeded version doesn't have an xvid.dll, just xvidcore and xvidvfw.

Only time FU should give that error is if you have it set to external and you don't have XviD installed. First it checks for xvidvfw, then if it doesn't find that it checks for xvid.dll. Definatly shouldn't happen when set to use the internal build.

[evil ryu]

I hope there will be a new build of FairUse with updated xvid embedded and mp3 lame updated to 3.97 version.

The XviD cvs of july crash on my Intel Core 2 Duo. :(

Now I'm forced to use DivX that works without glitches.

[celtic_druid]

You can use an external build of XviD. Could probably replace the internal one with a resource hacker to and lame is as simple as copying over a new exe.

[Pinch]

Okay, I've been reading most of this thread, and now it's just beginning to be too much!

I have a few simple questions (at least I think so)... In the 2.1 release it was easy to figure out when external codec was on or not, but I can't find the option in the 2.5 release, well, it's not obvious imo :p

I'm guessing it's somewhere around the initial drop down-menu:
Encoding Speed
Encoding Speed (ESS)
Codec Settings
iPod Video

To me these options just seem pretty random!
I chose "Codec Settings" and pressing next, yes, I was able to change the settings (but I have no idea if I'm using the external or internal codec). So should I assume that if I chose Encoding Speed with or without ESS (whatever that is), I will only be able to change the codec settings from within FUW (i.e. I won't be able to press "Codec Settings")?
Apart from that, I was still able to set the end result size to whatever I wanted in FWU, but I was also able to set the size/bitrate in the codec settings - so which of these settings is FWU actually encoding from? :s
On top of that, before FWU even got to analyze the disc (hadn't even specified what DVD to encode from) 7 zones were defined in the codec settings... Why?

I'm so confused!

[celtic_druid]

You have to tick use expert mode to deselect internal Xvid.
In my build ESS uses a HT profile and regular encoding speed uses MTK.

You think too much. I would suggest thinking less and you will be less confused.

[malpijerk]

okay guys I am having problem opening Fairuse WIzard 2.5. I recently formatted my harddrive and ever since that I am having this problem. I don't know what is causing this problem. As soon as I hit next (the option in FU wizard: 2nd step) I receive an error saying "Fu.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." How shall I proceed now? I need you all's great help.

[Pinch]

You have to tick use expert mode to deselect internal Xvid.
In my build ESS uses a HT profile and regular encoding speed uses MTK.

You think too much. I would suggest thinking less and you will be less confused.

Okay, then, but I still don't understand why I'm able to set the bitrate (size) from within FUW and in the XviD Codec Setting. Which one of those is FUW actually listening to?
Another werid thing is, when using the internal codec, aboslutely nothing happens when I press "Codec Settings" (it's not blanked out, and I have chosen "Codec Settings" in the drop down-menu).

Oh, and on top of that there's something specific to the DVD I don't understand: on the back of the DVD cover, it says the video is NTSC, but ChapterXtractor says it's PAL. And as far as I understand PAL content can't be interlaced, but I'm fairly sure it actually is... So is this PAL or NTSC?

[audioman]

Hi forumers

Can someone post a guide on How to use Celtic druid built and the settings to use to encode a movie ?
Do I have to select a special matrix ?

Thanks to give me explanations

[lantern]

A new version of Fairuse Wizard has been posted:

2.6
Fixed:
- much better handling of some new discs
- fixed the end-of-movie-is-missing bug occuring with homemade discs
- fixed the iPod encoding final muxing error

Added:
- Windows Vista compatibility under standard user account
- new cell commands interpreter for enhanced playback flow handling

Changed:
- updated the internal XviD codec
- updated the internal x264 codec
- better handling of DivX codec

Sourcecode available from FairuseWizard (http://www.fairusewizard.com)website here (http://www.fairusewizard.com/Release/fu-src.zip).

[celtic_druid]

http://mirror.brokenlogic.net/fu2.6-setup.exe
Needs testing.

[lantern]

Thanks CD, I hosed my install of VC++ 2005EE and am having trouble getting it reinstalled. I appreciate it!

[LoRd_MuldeR]

http://mirror.brokenlogic.net/fu2.6-setup.exe
Needs testing.

The EXE crahes immediately:

Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.6.0007.5
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

CommandLine: "D:\FairUse Wizard 2\FU.exe"
Symbol search path is: *** Invalid ***
****************************************************************************
* Symbol loading may be unreliable without a symbol search path. *
* Use .symfix to have the debugger choose a symbol path. *
* After setting your symbol path, use .reload to refresh symbol locations. *
****************************************************************************
Executable search path is:
ModLoad: 00400000 00728000 image00400000
ModLoad: 7c910000 7c9c7000 ntdll.dll
ModLoad: 7c800000 7c906000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll
ModLoad: 5d450000 5d4e7000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\COMCTL32.dll
ModLoad: 77da0000 77e4a000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
ModLoad: 77e50000 77ee1000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll
ModLoad: 77ef0000 77f36000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll
ModLoad: 77d10000 77da0000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
ModLoad: 77f40000 77fd7000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll
ModLoad: 77be0000 77c38000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll
ModLoad: 75ec0000 75ee1000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVFW32.dll
ModLoad: 76af0000 76b1e000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINMM.dll
ModLoad: 7c9d0000 7e798000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHELL32.dll
ModLoad: 76350000 7639a000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\COMDLG32.dll
ModLoad: 774b0000 775ec000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll
ModLoad: 770f0000 7717c000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\OLEAUT32.dll
(13cc.1224): Break instruction exception - code 80000003 (first chance)
eax=00351eb4 ebx=7ffdd000 ecx=00000001 edx=00000002 esi=00351f48 edi=00351eb4
eip=7c911230 esp=0022fb20 ebp=0022fc94 iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na po nc
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00000202
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export symbols for ntdll.dll -
ntdll!DbgBreakPoint:
7c911230 cc int 3
0:000> g
ModLoad: 773a0000 774a2000 C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.2180_x-ww_a84f1ff9\comctl32.dll
(13cc.1224): Access violation - code c0000005 (first chance)
First chance exceptions are reported before any exception handling.
This exception may be expected and handled.
eax=00000000 ebx=00000001 ecx=0000000a edx=004dd804 esi=00000002 edi=00000a28
eip=0045fd5e esp=001b8f9c ebp=001b8fe8 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na pe nc
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00010246
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for image00400000
image00400000+0x5fd5e:
0045fd5e f30f7e05acd84a00 movq xmm0,mmword ptr [image00400000+0xad8ac (004ad8ac)] ds:0023:004ad8ac=566e776f6e6b6e55
0:000> g
(13cc.1224): Access violation - code c0000005 (!!! second chance !!!)
eax=00000000 ebx=00000001 ecx=0000000a edx=004dd804 esi=00000002 edi=00000a28
eip=0045fd5e esp=001b8f9c ebp=001b8fe8 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na pe nc
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00000246
image00400000+0x5fd5e:
0045fd5e f30f7e05acd84a00 movq xmm0,mmword ptr [image00400000+0xad8ac (004ad8ac)] ds:0023:004ad8ac=566e776f6e6b6e55

[celtic_druid]

No crash here. Never let it finish encoding though.

[tony62]

Looks like 2.6 has been removed from Fairuse website and not even mentioned in the history anymore: http://www.fairusewizard.com/lang_en/fairuse_wizard_dvd_divx_xvid_backup_tool_news.html

[lantern]

Did not crash for me.

[weaver4]

I bought version 2.4. When version 2.5 came out I got email from Fairuse with a link for "donator download". I have not received a email regarding version 2.6. Will I? Where do I get the full version?

[tony62]

Did not crash for me either. I have encoded The Bourne Supremacy successfully, although the size was almost 100MB less than the 700MB target.

[celtic_druid]

Well I tested Alien here and it came out at 1397MB from a target of 1400MB's. Used encoding speed mode.

iPod mode is broken. Fails with muxing. Needs updating anyway.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

It crashes here on my AMD AthlonXP system right after I run the EXE file. Maybe SSE2 is required for this build?
(My system is stable, I encode 10 hours non-stop with x264 and nothing goes wrong ^^)

[celtic_druid]

Yep, just checked and the project file is set to SSE2. Doubt it would make any difference speed wise and I don't remember setting it (must have downloaded that way).

Will change and do a new build later.

[jawgee]

Was a newer 2.6 build ever released? Just curious...

Thanks!
jawgee

[celtic_druid]

The build linked earlier (I did post a link right?) was updated (some weeks ago) to support non SSE2 CPU's and with working mp4 output. Other than that I haven't done anything. Been otherwise busy and uninterested.

Any feedback on Vista support, undersizing, oversizing, etc. with my build is still welcome though.

[labtroll]

Any feedback on Vista support, undersizing, oversizing, etc. with my build is still welcome though.

Hey, my first post, so before anything, I'd like to thank Celtic_druid for making this build of FUW2.5. :thanks: The one from the FUW site was giving me codec errors in vista that I couldn't fix. (haven't tried 2.6 yet) Your build worked "right out of the box".

To start off, here are my finds in Vista Ultimate (without lots of tweaking) with FUW2.5 (yes... i know i'm kinda late in the game.. I'll be testing out 2.6 soon.. but 2.5 is stable and get's the job done now for me)


Install fine, but have to run as admin (going to program folder, not just the shortcut and right-click run as admin)

For XviD: I had to install the xvid codec (i used the one from your site) in order to not get a codec error for xvid.

For x.264: I had to drop the contents of the rar file (the x264 codec from you site) into the FUW program folder to also not get codec err for x.264 (not sure if that's suppose to be done that way.. but it worked for me :p )


I have found no problem with size. As it always comes out perfect. (after dozens of retries to get that "perfect" setting)
Settings I've used.

action and non action movies.
700MB or 1400MB
~1000Kb/s and under 700MB (for short videos)
XviD (both speed settings) and H.264
I don't use the quantizer
encoding quality from med-high
dual pass (of course hehe)
over 24hours in a row with 3-4 dvd enqueued up


ISSUES:
MKV: when i choose that option and choose external subs, the subs are not put into MKV container automatically... is that right?

One weird issue. Using folder2iso to make working dvd's from VIDEO_TS folders. But I get the follow errors with FUW:
unable to read anchor point, unable to read dvd data (using an iso made from folder2iso or even re-ripping using dvd decrypter from burned dvd:)

unable to read partition descriptor, invalid lba (using a burned DVD5or9 made from folder2iso)


Not a big deal... I'll have to find a better dvd builder from folders. (actually, I also tried nero 7.x with same results) :o

that wraps it up for now. It would be cool if FUW could be modded to do folders directly (ya.. i know.. it's been said b4). :D

^peeeace^

[celtic_druid]

The internal encoders are embedded resources that are unpacked and used. I guess there is a problem with this and Vista (at least with 2.5). Manually placing the files in the FU dir would allow it to find them where it expects them after it fails to unpack.

[labtroll]

The internal encoders are embedded resources that are unpacked and used. I guess there is a problem with this and Vista (at least with 2.5). Manually placing the files in the FU dir would allow it to find them where it expects them after it fails to unpack.

Ok, thanks. At least I know it wasn't just "random luck" since I reproduced the results a bunch of times.

For the folder2iso problem... solved with dvdshrink. :)

[labtroll]

Version 2.6 build test update.

Build location: http://mirror.brokenlogic.net/fu2.6-setup.exe
OS: Vista Ult.
HW: P4 3.0 (northwood)


-Did over 3 continuous days of coding of 8 films queued up @ various bitrates and size but highest quality setting on x264 codec not a hiccup.
-Needs external x.264 codec (recommended anyway to use the latest) Used vfw x264, latest (r654 by Deaththesheep United) (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=98247)
-more accurate file size. for example: movie i asked for 1400mb came out 1450mb. This build, size came out 1399mb.


NOTE:
-r654 has good visual improvement over the build included in FUW2.5 (film quality better while at almost 5-10% less bitrate)
-That x264 (r654) codec build works with FUW2.5 (celtic_druid)Build, in case you want to stick with the ver.2.5


loookin good :cool:

[Cucamonga]

I have a problem here. FU 2.6 is writing the output file very slowly. It writes a few KB (yes! Kilobytes) per minute! Writting the entire file will take hours! :eek:

Please, anyone knows what is going on? I use KL Mega Codec Pack 2.01 and Windows Vista Home Premium.

Thanks, folks!

[celtic_druid]

Are we talking ripping the DVD or encoding?

[Cucamonga]

I am talking about converting process. FU rips DVD correctly, I select On2 VP7 (video) and OGG Vorbis (audio) tracks (english and portuguese) and it take hours in the convertion process. At the final, it start the writing output file routine but the process is veeeery slow. Version 2.5 works fine but 2.6 don't. I can't reinstall version 2.5 because I changed my OS to Windows Vista and version 2.5 is incompatible with it.

Any ideas, please?

[celtic_druid]

Right, so we are talking muxing here? For ogm output (same goes for mkv) FU uses VirtualDubMod. Perhaps it has some issues with Vista? Although it is also used for other outputs than mp4. I was meaning to change it over to use a cli ogm muxer, mkvtoolnix and AVI-Mux GUI, but I never got around to it.

[Cucamonga]

Well, last night I installed WinXP again (in a partition test) and FU2.6. I selected 3 series episodes for convertion: first conversion was ok but in the second I had same problem: when I come back from my job I found FU trying to write the second output file. It was running the writing routine by 8 hours! The output file was in 60% or so... I cancelled the process and it started to convert the third movie. I cancelled it too... :(

I really don't know why it happens. I give up to post messages on the "oficial forum" of FU because I'm not lucky enough to get my questions answered. Only a few lucky users get that support. Thank you very much for trying to help me.

[labtroll]

I ran into some audio problem with a DVD. on FUW2.6.

~30 min into film the audio is gone. I encoded twice with no fix. Encoded audio just using mp3 128kps. It was the only DVD of the batches with any issue.

BUT... it worked fine encoding with FUW 2.5.

Also, the latest x264 (r654) does work with FUW2.5... my bad... not sure why it didn't work the first few times I tried :confused:.
(I edited and updated my prev post)


@Cucamonga.... though u use On2 VP7 (video) and OGG Vorbis (audio), xvid/x264 with ac3/mp3 works fine in both 2.5 and 2.6 in xp AND vista. read my prev. post.

Besides personal pref.. do you find the vp7 video codec better?

[Wolfman]

For me 2.6 (celtic_droid) works fine .. goes really fast with divx 6.6 and a core2 duo (2 hours max). Very pleased with the speed and quality.
However I know of one problem on foreign films(all films really) if you select extract subtitles but don't have include subpictures also ticked then you will not get any subtitle files. I am trying to teach myself foreign language, but also prefer to have a subtitle file so that the dvd player can sort out the subtitles. This also saves a lot of bitrate in the film itself.
Or I might just be very confused about subtitles? I was expecting to have an avi file and one or two subtitle files (idx or sub or srt?). This is what autogk gives me? or is there alternative software to rip the subtitles?

[laserfan]

Build location: http://mirror.brokenlogic.net/fu2.6-setup.exe....loookin goodI dunno why FUW is acting so bizarre but I thought I'd post here in case others are having trouble.

I've used FUW for years and with (I think) 2.0 started to have problems where it failed to work with my External Xvid settings. I use celtic_druid's build w/MTK profiles.

Went back/forth w/ump over problems, then celtic_druid's build fixed them, or so I thought. Recently I tried 2.6, but this build was not completing the final re-mux of video & audio. Installed FUW (ump build) over the top and it seemed to work.

Then recently I noticed 2.6 was not respecting my external Xvid again!!??!! Finally I DL'ed the build above and this seems to work perfectly--is this the celtic_druid build?

All I wanted to say is I think there may be some issues with how FUW works with both external Xvid and with VirtualDubMod. I have multiple versions, in different locations (its own Program Files folder, with AutoGK, with FUW, a couple others etc.) and finally the above build, which bundles 1.5.10.2 works fine for me again. :o

[celtic_druid]

brokenlogic = me.

[laserfan]

brokenlogic = me.Thanks for confirming, and Thanks for your FUW build! I had paid ump for FUW years ago, but I suspect he's developed a really bad case of the "shareware blues"... :(

[lantern]

Version 2.8 is posted for FU. I don't know if the source has been updated though.