FairUse 2.6 is out

[UMP]

Sorry for the delayed answer.

fu2k is the original author, I further develop FU since last summer. The email is available on the download page.

As you can see, I decided to ask for a small fee for the download, as allowed by the GPL.

Last but not least, the source code for FU 0.43c is available. This one fixes minor issues and should be the version you'll build, Wilbert.
Please note that the sources are in .NET 2003 format, and can't be compiled "as is" with VS6 (no offense intended here, only it is a frequently asked question).

[buzzqw]

Hi all

link:
FairUse 0.43c (http://www.cdrinfo.pl/download2kilgor.php?filename=software/video-konwersja dvd/fu043c.exe&id=4009180226&baza=soft)

changelog:
http://fairuse.free.fr/lang_en/history.html

But please support FairUse. UMP does a great job. Donate at last 2$

BHH

P.S.I am not affiliate (and i cannot even understud "polach") with http://www.cdrinfo.pl just found a link someware on internet

edit Wilbert: edited post a bit. Thanks for the link!

[Video Dude]

I see that the link for the source code was removed on the Fair Use page. If you pay the $10, can you download the source code along with the compiled program or was it removed all together? Is the source code is no longer free?

[Wilbert]

The sourcecode should be free. UMP, I would like to have the source code of 0.44. Could you mail it to me?

[UMP]

The source code is available at the right bottom of the french download page : http://fairuse.free.fr/lang_fr/download.html "Code source disponible ICI" or here is a direct link : http://fairuse.free.fr/Release/fu-src.zip

It sould still be on the english page too. I'll correct this as soon as I'm at home.

Regards,

ump

EDIT: Wilbert, keep in mind the source code must be compiled with VS.NET 2003 (or you'll have plenties of linking errors). ;)

[Wilbert]

Thanks very much!

[buzzqw]

is allowed to download fairuse setup (from external site) even if UMP use allopass ?

is allowed to publish fu setup file (as builded from free source) in external site ? (i think yes.., 'cause GPL) :confused:

Thanks
:confused: :confused: :confused:

BHH

[Wilbert]

is allowed to publish fu setup file (as builded from free source) in external site ? (i think yes.., 'cause GPL) ?
Yes, it is allowed. Please, post a link!

[buzzqw]

Direct download link (http://www.64k.it/andres/fu044.exe)

But please support UMP work Donate!!! (http://fairuse.free.fr/lang_en/donate.html)

BHH

[nightrhyme]

Trying to figure out different settings i FairUse ans stumpled on the SET CREDITS START option. Does it work like using Zones in Xvid's codec settings or should I still aplly those manuelly to give credits lower bitrate ?

Thanx in advance

[nightrhyme]

Originally posted by nightrhyme
Trying to figure out different settings i FairUse ans stumpled on the SET CREDITS START option. Does it work like using Zones in Xvid's codec settings or should I still aplly those manuelly to give credits lower bitrate ?

Thanx in advance

I testet it in my own way. Encoded a movie and cut the credits off Checket the bitrate on entire movie and bitrate on credits that I cut off. used gspot. Very starnge. The bitrate on the cut off credits is almost double of the rest of the movie.
Hmm I wonder what the SET CREDITS START option is for then ?

[UMP]

FU uses XviD zones. The last zone if credit start is set automatically gets a constant quantizer of 16.

Regards,

ump

[Wilbert]

v0.91/v0.92 are out. See first post of this thread.

@UMP,
The source on your webpage, is it v0.91 (because that's what is says when you run the program) or is it v0.92 (and you forgot to update the version number)?

[craigpro]

ok stupid question time.

all I need to do is download the FU044.exe from Buzzqw's site, then unRAR Wilbert's FU091.RAR on top of it?

Also something I haven't been able to work out as yet - will FU allow me to encode/resize my MPEG2 DVB-T recordings, or does it ONLY rip/encode from an original DVD?

Thanks,
Craigpro

[Wilbert]

all I need to do is download the FU044.exe from Buzzqw's site, then unRAR Wilbert's FU091.RAR on top of it?
Yup.

Someone else has to answer your second question :) It shouldn't be hard to figure that out.

[sillKotscha]

Originally posted by craigpro

all I need to do is download the FU044.exe from Buzzqw's site, then unRAR Wilbert's FU091.RAR on top of it?

ehrm, where can I find Buzzqw's site - google, no luck... and his/Buzzqw 'www' button is linkin' to mpaa.org :D

[Wilbert]

See his post of 16th June 2004 17:36.

[sillKotscha]

oohh, :D

thanks... and next one: I'm still unable to find FU091.RAR (your site doesn't contain a compile...)

[pacohaas]

i think the best thing to do is download the new demo version(0.92) from the official site (http://fairuse.free.fr/), then copy the non-demo FU.exe (http://www.geocities.com/wilbertdijkhof/FU091.rar) over the demo version. I will update the non-demo compile to 0.92 once the 0.92 source is posted.

[sillKotscha]

oh wonderbra... thanks :)

[Wilbert]

v0.93 is out! Link can be found on the first page of this thread.

[PatchWorKs]

(already proposed but NOT accepted in the FU forum)

Well, AFAIK FairUse is a standalone-player oriented backup tool. :rolleyes:
I can't understand why it can't do (K)VCD/SVCD by using QuEnc/FreeEnc. :cool:
I hope to see a theora-only based version (that means REALLY free backup) too. :D

Anyway good app.

[UMP]

Originally posted by PatchWorKs
(already proposed but NOT accepted in the FU forum)

Well, AFAIK FairUse is a standalone-player oriented backup tool. :rolleyes:
I can't understand why it can't do (K)VCD/SVCD by using QuEnc/FreeEnc. :cool:
I hope to see a theora-only based version (that means REALLY free backup) too. :D

Anyway good app.

Maybe you should ask Wilbert to add these features, he seems to be very active lately on the FairUse project... :rolleyes:

[Wilbert]

Maybe you should ask Wilbert to add these features, he seems to be very active lately on the FairUse project... :rolleyes:
;) You can always ask me, but I'm not a coder :) If the FU folks don't add it, it won't be added in the near future.

[buzzqw]

FairUse 1.0 is OUT !

changelog




History

1.0
added:
- subpicture description (director's comment, children, etc.)
- HD (High Definition) encoding mode

fixed:
- forced subtitles were not added correctly for some movies
- non-forced subtitles were sometimes added while not needed
- better audio tracks handling with some poorly authored discs
- fixed a hang that occured with some poorly authored discs
- Lanczos resize mode state is now correctly saved
- default OggVorbis bitrate is applied as intended
- fixed the undersize when encoding in IVTC mode with the DivX codec

changed:
- tweaked the way Field Align mode is handled
- XviD zones settings are now forced to prevent misuse of the zones
- XviD now always encodes in target size mode
- encodings can now be ran if there is no ASPI layer and no DVD drive
- chapter numbers in file names are written with two digits
- better resolution/Lanczos suggestion handling


Here the link to Light version (encode upt to 700mb)
http://www.fairusewizard.com/Release/FU-Setup_LE.exe

Here the link to sourcecode http://www.fairusewizard.com/Release/fu-src.zip

Thanks UMP !

BHH

PS. Someone would compile a free version ?

[Wilbert]

PS. Someone would compile a free version ?
Done! See first post. Btw, we didn't have to test it yet.

[bourtzovlakas]

The free version doesn't seem to work....
Followed the instructions in the first post,without success...

[buzzqw]

@bourtzovlakas

what's the problem ? I run a short test encoding with success.
Rar archive will put out a FU.exe.

I suggest you to launch first fu_le.exe just one time and then exit. Next time launch fu.exe and all is ok.

best regards

BHH

[bourtzovlakas]

I suggest you to launch first fu_le.exe just one time and then exit. Next time launch fu.exe and all is ok.

Tried that also.....no luck....(after uninstalling,re-installing of course).
I get the error message about light edition not being able to produce files larger than 700 Mb.....
I must be doing something wrong,but i can understand what....

[buzzqw]

OK, I got the problem.
And i had the same message.

I think Wilber must do a research in code and fix something


Thanks

BHH

[Wilbert]

I think that check is done in main.cpp (#ifndef FAIRUSE_PRO ...). We will look at it tomorrow ...

[bluestar]

please check the code again... fu.exe still showing le

[Wilbert]

please check the code again... fu.exe still showing le
Ok, I replaced it a few minutes ago (see first post of this thread).

Could you check it whether it really produces encodings > 700 Mb.

[UMP]

There is no "trick" in the code. If FU allows you to set higher than 700 MB file size, then it's ok. ;)

Please note there is a bug that will produce really small file sizes if you ask for a size over 3.5-4GB. This will be fixed in the next release.

[Wilbert]

There is no "trick" in the code. If FU allows you to set higher than 700 MB file size, then it's ok.
I didn't allow you to. Perhaps you forgot the remove the restriction in the code (that you uploaded to the website)?

UMP, are the original authors (fu2k) mentioned somewhere in the documentation?

[UMP]

Perhaps you forgot the remove the restriction in the code (that you uploaded to the website)?
The available source code is the one used to build the publicly available release, as required by the GPL. But you already know this, osn't it ?

UMP, are the original authors (fu2k) mentioned somewhere in the documentation?
I always had the feeling that fu2k doesn't like "advertising" around his name. I have the feeling I should't name him unless he explicitly asks to be.

I didn't allow you to.
If my presence on this forum is no longed desired, please feel free to shutdown my account.


@Wilbert:

Obviously you don't like the way things have gone with FU, but you should remember what happened after the source code was released : nothing.

It appeared that no one was willing to bring the FU project back to life. I then did my best to update FU and bring it where it is today. Had you rather the project to stay in an idle state forever ?

Here is a quote of a discussion I had with fu2k :
fu2k: As long as you stick to the GPL (ie. keeping source code available), then you can decide whether you want to charge or not, I don't mind either way.

However, if you decide to charge a fee, I expect that one of the following will happen:

(a) The fee will discourage people from using the software, and the userbase will shrink substantially, or

(b) Someone else will get the source, build it and host the downloads themself without charging.

You need to think about this and do what is right for you. As long as the GPL is respected, I am not too worried about what happens.

fu2k

ump: To be honest, I really hope to see (b) happen, which would allow for wide distribution while some people will get it from the FU website. Of course, the source code will still be available.

Of course, if I had to definitely stop working on the project, I would make the latest source code and build available for free download.

Now the point is, I'm still having lot of pleasure to work on FU. Unlike the author of AutoGK, lack of motivation is not the reason why I decided to charge for the download. I decided to charge because I had and still don't have no other choice ATM.

This said, think what you want to, it does no longer much matter to me, I'm getting used to see past FU enthusiasts spit on me and my current position.

Regards,

ump

[spectra]

well i used FU since those old divx 3.11 days and still using it. i think it went a good way since then especially the mkv support is great.

please ump keep on the good work with fu and wilbert your compilation work is also appreciated.

[bluestar]

another appreciated user... there are a number of softwares around..DVD shrink, DVDx, Gordian etc. I still like FU........ great little UI. Your works always be noticed.....

thanks

[shevegen]

I like to have options.

GK ... FU
the world is a good place (well for at least 20 more years hehehehhe but wondering what will be in 20 years... hopefully not Sony :P )

[Wilbert]

Fairuse 1.1 is out (see first post). Please check it doesn't add the logo to your encoding.

[buzzqw]

it's ok.
i had encoded a small sample movie and it hasn't the logo

thanks Wilbert !

BHH

[OlDer]

Originally posted by Wilbert
Fairuse 1.1 is out (see first post)
There is 1.2 (http://www.fairusewizard.com/lang_en/history.html) already :)

[Wilbert]

Fairuse 1.2 is out!

[kythorn]

I've been using this today for the first time since the fu2k days, and it seems pretty slick.

One thing that crops up is how episodic television discs, or a DVD with two movies on it is handled in automatic or semi automatic modes.

It works exactly the way I'd want (checking each chain seperately for cropping/IVTC), but seems to think that I want ALL of them together to fit into the target file size, judging on the tiny resolutions it comes up with.

At first I thought about just increasing the target file size by 4x, but that won't work for me because sometimes there's only two or three episodes on a given disc.

Another idea that grew out of this is some way to automatically deal with having one program chain actually be two episodes for a two-parter (some manufacturers do do this). Could there be a way to set the target size with a time threshhold? 50 minutes and under do 350, over 50 minutes do 700, etc?

Granted, I can compensate for all of these things manually, and I have no idea how hard these ideas would be to incorporate, but I think they they would improve FU quite a bit if they got added (at least from my subjective point of view).

[UMP]

Multi episode discs can be handled two ways on the chain selection screen :

a) cache selected chains (multisession)
Select several chains, configure one, and all the others get the same settings. This makes sense since several episodes are likely to share the same cropping/field mode settings.

b) cache selected chains (semi-auto)
Specify a global size on the options screen, select several chains, and FU will individually crop and determine field mode for each chain, then it will dispatch the specified size among the chains based on their duration.

i.e. if there is one 60' movie and a 30' bonus for a desired size of 600 MB, the 60' chain will get 400 MB and the 30' chain will get 200 MB. Very useful to backup discs containing a lot of clips not sharing the same encoding properties.

[air74]

objectless. i've found.

[djh]

FairUse 2.0 has just been released...

[Wilbert]

Check out first post!

Please test it, and report whether there are no restrictions anymore (700 MB limit, logo).

[shevegen]

Fair Use rocks!

[280zx]

Check out first post!

Please test it, and report whether there are no restrictions anymore (700 MB limit, logo).


It won't let me select a range to encode. I can select it, but fairuse just encodes the whole dvd and ignores the range I selected. Yes, I installed the light edition and replaced the .exe with the one provided in the first post. Could you fix that? :(