GordianKnot 0.28 Final is out - see thread in the main forum

[len0x]

Originally posted by mazzo
I find giving sound on old movies higher bitrates than 96 to be overkill, it's better to give as much bitrate as possible to the video, or ....?

I'm doing lots of old movies rips (the most actually). Sound is usually just ac3 stereo or even mono which I just mux without trascoding (although I do 2CD rips... - b&w old movies compress really badly...)

[butterw]

The ability to handle properly (reasonable quality, no sync issues)
96kbps CBR MP3 stereo (from AC3 or wav)
48kbps CBR MP3 mono (from mono wav, for TV caps)
is essential to any encoding application in avi container IMO.

[len0x]

It's not GK problem.
I can't add "--resample 48" automatically coz I don't know input frequency... So you have to that manually (and you can in Custom MP3...) Lame does resampling _automatically_, so no blames to GK...

[stax76]

MP3 CBR does not work anyway, in order to mux it properly VDMod 1.5.1 is required...

[len0x]

Originally posted by Dolemite
MP3 CBR does not work anyway, in order to mux it properly VDMod 1.5.1 is required...

true... bummer for CBR ppl :)

[mazzo]

I mux it with nandub, after vdubmod 1.4.13 has made a try. It's better.

[pixolex]

I try to make a 6th pass encoding with divx and when a choose to start the encoding...GKNOT BLOCKS :confused: i have to close GKNOT and start again, every time it do the same thing, i didn't try with another number of passes...i didn't have time :(

With GKnot 0.28 RC

[len0x]

Originally posted by pixolex
I try to make a 6th pass encoding with divx and when a choose to start the encoding...GKNOT BLOCKS :confused: i have to close GKNOT and start again, every time it do the same thing, i didn't try with another number of passes...i didn't have time :(

With GKnot 0.28 RC

Just tried 6 passes with 5.0.5 - no problem whatsoever...

[pixolex]

i'm not in home, but when i go back, i'll try again!
Just in the end of the day :(

But it's strange becouse all the jobs are in the queue waiting normaly, but Gknot don't start virtualdubmod. I have to shutdown the program to remove the job or change the number of passes.

i try it 2 times and it does the same thing, at the third time i choose 2 passes and it start normali. Maybe i did something roung or miss some option, i don't know, but there are no error messages.

Sorry for my english :(

[Bro]

how much difference between 2pass and 3-6pass?

[len0x]

Someone did research a while ago and conclusion was it's not worth doing more than 4 passes. But 3-passes ussually have some definite improvements over 2...

p.s. it's not mine opinion...

[CaptainCarrot]

Hi lenox,
since DivX 5.04 the CompChecks are by default running at 97% (q=2, which was 100% before). I think that should be changed to 100% (q=1).

Greetings

[len0x]

Originally posted by CaptainCarrot
Hi lenox,
since DivX 5.04 the CompChecks are by default running at 97% (q=2, which was 100% before). I think that should be changed to 100% (q=1).

Greetings

wot about ppl who use 5.0.2 ?

[CaptainCarrot]

wot about ppl who use 5.0.2 ?
hm, first I'd say there's no reason since 5.05 seems to have improved quite a bit compared to 5.02 (at least from my first experiences, haven't done too much testing yet) but since everything depends on ppls point of view I'd suggest that if you still want to stay compatible it would be nice if you added a default tab for comp test (like for 1st, nth and credit-pass) or made the settings-tab in the comp-check-menu remember changes.

[pixolex]

well...i installed the final release of GK and try to encode in 6th passes...BUT there are the same problem with me, the credits don't start to encode..the virtualdubmod doesn't start...but with 2 3 4 or 5 passes every thing go OK...WHY?!?!? ther are any diference between 5 or 6 passes...i have the latest codec pack with divx 5.05 i don't understand :confused:

i attached a print screen...with 6 passes!

Edit - DaveEL: Image deleted as its not useful.

[len0x]

Originally posted by pixolex
ther are any diference between 5 or 6 passes...

Indeed there're not any... Just don't do 6 passes then - you have to be paranoid to go higher than 4 anyway...

[pixolex]

:( if there are no other way...

i'm not paranoid i just have a NEW :P 2500+ barton working in dual channel :) and i think the precessor it's cold... ;)

it's just to experimenting...

BUT if you recomend a max of 4 passes...THE MASTER KNOWS!!:D



Congratulations for the marvelous work you have been doing LENOX! :)

THANKS!

[wserg]

Thanks, LenOx!!

Congratulations to u!:)

[pixolex]

:( there's not a option to delete intermediate files if we encode without credits...

[CaptainCarrot]

there's not a option to delete intermediate files if we encode without credits...

What kind of intermediate files would you want to delete? When doing the credits extra, you get movie_movie.avi and movie_credits.avi as intermediate files which are then merged to movie_avi. If you encode whithout credits, you don't have these intermediate files (i think, am i wrong?).

[pixolex]

but you have the avi without the sound ;)...i think the mp3 file should not be deleted...but the main movie with no sound yes.

[len0x]

about 6 passes problem - it appears to exits only when doing credits as well. If you just select 6 passes without cretits - evrything's fine. (I have no idea how it's related, but I'll have a look when I'm back...)

[pixolex]

Yes i tried it with credits, i forgot to say it :o

And about the delete of intermediate files...with no credits ;)

[pixolex]

:( why when i open a dvd2avi project in gknot it says "File is not a valid dvd2avi project (v1.76), avi or avs file!"

i use the dvd2avi that came with Gknot...there are any option that i miss???!!!:confused: all my previews d2v where maked with 0.27 gknot and i don't have any problem...

Please some one help me!

i attached the proj.

[pixolex]

:( well i solved my problem by downloding other version of dvd2avi 1.76

here http://www.slunecnice.cz/product/DVD2AVI/

but some one can say me what is the problem???

[butterw]

I want to compress avi and avs files + the files audio stream.

- Input : lighty compressed avi with wav audio (or corresponding avs)
- Output : compressed avi with mp3 audio

Currently this feature is not supported in GK ? you can only process
audio from an external file ?

Would it be possible to add a 'demux audio from file' button to generate automatically the audio file to be processed if wanted ?

[mazzo]

Seems like I have to stick to Nandub to mux audio, maybe that is because I often use bitrates like 96 or 112 Kbps mono. VirtualDobMod is ALWAYS out of sync.

VirtualDubMod sync will also provide smaller files than muxing with Nandub.

Anyone who knows anything about this issue?

[AmigaFuture]

Hi. I'm using DivX 5.0.5 Pro, GordianKnot.CodecPack.1.1, GordianKnot.RipPack.0.28.Setup. I rendered Braveheart last night to 3 CDs but even with the Split checked it didn't split. The audio was also a little off sync. I also used 4 passes. I'll try 2 passes (usual) tonight & see what happens.

Brilliant work with GKnot! The work is Much appriciated. :)

P.S. I joined the files & muxed them myself, now they're fine. :)

[colordog]

Howdy -

Is GKnot 0.28 compatible with the newly released VDubMod 1.5.1.1? Or no?

[aquaplaning]

@AmigaFuture:
there is a bug splitting large files. see:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52103

[Doom9]

@colordog: many things have changed so without actually having checked I'd say no. But I suppose the next version will be..

[DaveEL]

0.28.1 uses the new virtualdubmod

DaveEL

[AmigaFuture]

@aquaplaning

Originally posted by aquaplaning
@AmigaFuture:
there is a bug splitting large files. see:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52103


I read it. I'm still doing it by hand because of bugs still in GK.
I'm now using 0.28.1 & am now getting: Member "SetNandubCompatibility" not found

This is after it renders completely & then does it's (I assume) split checking. Any suggestions? Thanks.

[len0x]

but it wasn't suppose to be released anyway...

0.28.2 will solve the problems...

[tekman8]

There is a bug in 0.28.2 that's very bothersome. Gknot wants to use mpeg2dec3.dll for "The Day The Earth Stood Still", and that creates a virtual dub error when doing a compresssibility check that states it is not a avisynth 1.0 plugin, which stops everything. Will you please correct this problem at your earliest convenience?

THANK YOU!:D

[colordog]

Originally posted by tekman8
Gknot wants to use mpeg2dec3.dll for "The Day The Earth Stood Still", and that creates a virtual dub error when doing a compresssibility check that states it is not a avisynth 1.0 plugin, which stops everything.


If you have avisynth 1 or 2.0.x on your system (instead of AVsynth 2.5), you haven't properly installed GKnot and its supporting programs.

If you have VirtualDub on your system (instead of VirutalDubMod), then you haven't properly installed GKnot and its supporting programs.

[tekman8]

Hi Colordog,

I have properly installed the latest rip and system/codec packs. That should suggest that I have the latest avisynth and virtual dub mod software installed. If not, then that should suggest that there was something wrong with the latest rip packs. In either case, gknot or robot4rip seems to have chosen avi2dec3.dll and created my problem. If I manually correct the avs file everything works ok. My question is: When will the problem be fixed?

THANK YOU!:confused:

[colordog]

GKnot is supposed to use mpeg2dec3, which is why it's selected as default upon installation. This MPEGsource plugin allows GKnot and its program suite to process in YV12 colorspace. Its presence is not a bug.

Also, be aware that some of the excellent coders around here may find the following to be an annoying situation:

"I'm using your software for free. I think there's a bug, and describe it in a vague way. How fast will you fix it for me?"

This is a development forum. Because these folks are busy rewriting and testing, it's important to provide them with as much specific information as possible. So far, you haven't provided any details to suggest that there actually is a bug (as opposed to a user error). Why don't you post your logfiles? Also, why not take a second to check which version of avisynth and virtualdub and/or virtualdubmod you have installed on your system. Which codec are you trying to use? Etc. See which version of everything you're running, and post your scripts and logfiles.

Again, because this is a development forum, it is even more important for you to do this, as in the past couple of weeks Len0x has released either one or two 'downgraded' versions. For instance, it's possible your problem might be an artefact of using half newer and half older files; for instance, if you've recently installed a newer 'downgraded' installer on top of an older, 'newer' one. Who knows? You'll probably actually get help if you provide more info, I bet.:cool:

[hakko504]

Originally posted by colordog
GKnot is supposed to use mpeg2dec3, which is why it's selected as default upon installation. This MPEGsource plugin allows GKnot and its program suite to process in YV12 colorspace. Its presence is not a bug.

Also, be aware that some of the excellent coders around here may find the following to be an annoying situation:

"I'm using your software for free. I think there's a bug, and describe it in a vague way. How fast will you fix it for me?"

This is a development forum. Because these folks are busy rewriting and testing, it's important to provide them with as much specific information as possible. So far, you haven't provided any details to suggest that there actually is a bug (as opposed to a user error). Why don't you post your logfiles? Also, why not take a second to check which version of avisynth and virtualdub and/or virtualdubmod you have installed on your system. Which codec are you trying to use? Etc. See which version of everything you're running, and post your scripts and logfiles.

Again, because this is a development forum, it is even more important for you to do this, as in the past couple of weeks Len0x has released either one or two 'downgraded' versions. For instance, it's possible your problem might be an artefact of using half newer and half older files; for instance, if you've recently installed a newer 'downgraded' installer on top of an older, 'newer' one. Who knows? You'll probably actually get help if you provide more info, I bet.:cool: Well spoken, colordog.

Though slightly off topic I think I'll remind everybody about three good posts about good behaviour at this forum: Open message about free pies by DDogg (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7770) This post is requred reading for anyone who think they have a problem with a free software. How to post a question by markrb (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19566) How to write a coherent and readable message also by DDogg (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51632)

[tekman8]

Hi colordog,

I solved the problem myself. I'm sorry I didn't provide enough little details to suit you. I assumed you knew more about gknot than I did--I know very little. I provided you with the error message and the movie. The little knowledge I possessed allowed me to examine that data and work backwards from there. A person with your self-proclaimed expertise should have recognised the problem and provided me with insight. Instead, your solution is to berate the messenger. I suggest you examine forensically your software, your method of presentation of upgrades and downgrades, and your written communication skills. Yes, your software is free, but that doesn't excuse your bad manners. However, if you can only chew on the messenger to feel important, then chew away.

THANK YOU! :mad:

[len0x]

NO personal msg in the forum plz (PM should be enough)!

@tekman8

Instead of accusing a person who is not involved in development of GK at all (just regular user as you. Did you get the idea that he was speaking for all developers ???) you should have provided info on what's wrong and how you solved your problem, so that other can benefit from your experience...

[pixolex]

why the changelog is not updated to the last version :(

[AmigaFuture]

@len0x

Originally posted by len0x
but it wasn't suppose to be released anyway...

0.28.2 will solve the problems...

Hi. It seems it's broken with 0.28.2 also. By the way great work with GK, I do see a lot of possitive changes. :)

The problems I've noticed while using 0.28.2 are:

1) It's not muxing my 2nd ac3.
2) I set a 3 CD split, &, haha, I got 38 parts. The 1st 3 being normal (without the 2nd ac3 though) & 144,688 for the rest of the parts. I have NO idea what happened.

[mazzo]

I have until just recently used Divx5.0x, but switched to Xvid after reading about it.

My experience in GKnot is that it doesn't encode the credits part when I choose Xvid encoding.

Is it something I do wrong, or is it a bug?

[len0x]

Originally posted by AmigaFuture

1) It's not muxing my 2nd ac3.


Hmm... that's odd. plz post your log file.

*EDIT* I can confirm that in my test it's working perfectly
(2xAC3)

Originally posted by AmigaFuture

2) I set a 3 CD split, &, haha, I got 38 parts. The 1st 3 being normal (without the 2nd ac3 though) & 144,688 for the rest of the parts. I have NO idea what happened.

Log file will definitely help here as well. But I suspect that it's still 2Gb problem (since all 2CD rips I've done don't have any problems) - I haven't closely looked at what was changed there by aquaplanning while I was away...

[len0x]

Originally posted by mazzo
My experience in GKnot is that it doesn't encode the credits part when I choose Xvid encoding.


Should be FAQ: If you set the credits on video window, then when using XviD these settings automatically propagated to the codec (which has support for credits internally). Separate credits encoding not required.

[bond]

what is if i want to use different .avs scripts for the movie and the credits with xvid?

[mtc]

Should be FAQ: If you set the credits on video window, then when using XviD these settings automatically propagated to the codec (which has support for credits internally). Separate credits encoding not required.
It is now ;) I've been looking for stuff to add to the FAQs, thanks :)

[mazzo]

Should be FAQ: If you set the credits on video window, then when using XviD these settings automatically propagated to the codec (which has support for credits internally). Separate credits encoding not required.[/

Maybe it should be faq, but this is exactly what i did, and it didn't work. The file was encoded with no credits tail.

[len0x]

Originally posted by mazzo
The file was encoded with no credits tail.

how do you know ?
(did you check properties of XviD codec on encoder window to see if credits values hasve been set ?)

P.S. I hope you didn't select movie only on save AVS window, did you ?