GordianKnot 0.28 Final is out - see thread in the main forum

[len0x]

I beleive this thread can be unlocked now...

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changes in Final:

- XviD credits & IVTC bug fixed
- misc cosmetics


changes in RC:

- fixed CBR MP3 parameters command line
- credits settings now correctly picked up (divx5)
- updated info tab
- misc cosmetics

changes in beta 6:

- added CBR MP3 encoding support in audio options
- fixed probably a lot of bugs on the encoder window - settings etc...(and divx3 settings are back there)
- vdenc.log can be loaded from any location
- misc cosmetics

changes in beta 5:

- when using XviD - avi frame overhead is unchecked to avoid undersize
- auto split works with "improper vbr header" files
- removed checks for nandub, azid, lame when processing audio
(azid.exe, lame.exe, normalize.exe can now be removed from istallers)
- added check for besweet instead
- muxing is now possible with none of the audio tools installed
- cbr mp3 should be muxed properly now (when selecting already made mp3)

changes in beta 4:

- split file function now uses nandub compatibilty mode of vdubmod
- stats file for second pass of xvid can now be loaded
- very annoying bug when settings for first/second/credits were mixed up is fixed (please recreate your default settings)

changes in beta 3:

- three tabs are hidden now by default (nandub, stats, file editor)
the can be enabled on options tab
- defaults codec settings are loaded on encoder tab (first time you
hit codec settings for a project, second time saved settings
will be loaded)
- xvid defaults removed: luma + vhq 1

changes in beta 2:

- fixed autosplit again

changes in public beta:

- CD size is editable now
- some internal checks for mpeg2dec.dll and alternative version...
- info&help tab updated a bit (will be more in the final version)
- changed default noise filters (as well as lots of options included
in the avs file)

changes in alpha 14:

- improved & fixed auto splitting
- misc cosmetic changes

changes in alpha 13:

- vobsub can be launched again
- autosplit doen't split CD if the size is less then CDsize+2Mb
- autosplit settings is now persistent across several runs
- small cosmetics
- codec settings are now being picked up if you press config
button several times (previosly deafult were loaded every
time)
- XviD subs are now proper end subs, no beginning subs

changes in alpha 12:

- SaveAvs window remembers it's state across one run of GK
- Credits is enabled/disabled correctly on the same form
- Misc cosmetics
- Introduced automatic splitting feature! (test it please)
(this setting under CD buttons is not persistent yet, just for
testing) File is splitted according to CDs selected...

changes in alpha 11:

- muxing of second audio fixed
- button for loading stats for xvid is visible now :)
- make stats loader works for xvid & out /log file of VDubMod

changes in alpha 10:

- full support of XviD (including credits)
- defaults for XviD changed to Luma + chroma + Precision 6 +
vhq1
- cropping relaxed for width (mod 2 now)
- auto-detection of VBR/CBR mp3 on muxing...
- fixed decomb.dll always loading
- GK trying to find use virtualdubmod if just virtualdub was
used before

changes in alpha 9:

- first XVID support (don't garantee it works though)
but no credits option for XVID yet! and no recalculations after
audio processing as well...
- added TomsMoComp as deinterlace option
- changed IVTC option to (guide=1)
- misc cosmetics

changes in alpha 8:

- make comp test work again (sorry about that)

changes in alpha 7:

- seperate first & Nth passes back (were disabled in alpha 6)
- added button "Half CD" as well as arrows ro adjust size in
Mb
- Log file parsing between passes changed
- credits settings error when trying to add a job fixed

changes in alpha 6:

- added VSfilter to make subs filter work in YV12
- changed the way vdubmod started (no a job, but rather a script)
Hopefully this eliminates all the problems with naming of the
executable files
- added default settings for divx5 codec, which are being picked up
(apart from bitrate) if you don't specify them on encoder window
- misc cosmetic stuff (i.e. for instance disabled just first or
second passes for divx5)

changes in alpha 5:

- IVTC in avs fixed (decomb filter was not loaded)
- recalculated bitrate (after audio&credits processing) actually is being set now
- misc visual stuff ehnacements from requests
- I removed Vdubmod from the zip, please install vdubmod 1.4.13.2v2 on your own

changes in alpha 4:
- mod 4 crop generation in auto&smart crop (to support deinterlacing in YV12)
- correct bitrate is propagated to codec (no more undersized files)
- preview window setting are now restored upon appliaction restart
- misc stuff

changes in alpha 3:
- divx 3 support is back
- muxing of audio fixed as well

changes in alpha 2
- should fix log creating problems (from vdubmod) so comp check should always work. another fix is - multi pass with credits should works as well

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Here we go - as promised: first alpha of new version.

Go and get it at http://sourceforge.net/projects/gordianknot/

Change log:

- Cropping is done with multiply of 2 for all modes (manual, auto, smart) so that it is YV12 compatible. Manual cropping via editboxes is therefor disabled (use arrows).

- AVS window is rearranged slightly to include more filter options

- Added Lanczos to resize filters (and it is default filter for all cases apart from credits where bilinear is default)

- added Bob, FieldDeinterlace(blend=false) to deintrelace filters.

- TemporalSmoother changed to TemporalSoftener (noise filters). Settings recommended by sh0dan.

- Full support DivX 5.03/4 (including Nth pass) (Codec settings for first, Nth and credits is fully configurable now). Encode button is enabled now only after all three (or at least two) settings are set

- Compressibility test for divx5 uses /log option from VDubMod (and therefor vdubmod is required, but that is not checked in application itself yet). Also codec settings are configurable just for the test.

- Correct Settings for VDub path is picked up properly. (VDubMod is used for muxing audio as well from now on)

- Save and Save&Encode buttons in both SaveAVS and Edit windows
proposed names for Frameserver script and for Credits Framserver script (Movie.avs and Movie_Credits.avs).

- Tittles for the Edit script window, adapted to the frameserver that it is edited (titles: Avisynth Frameserver, Avisynth Credits Frameserver and Avisynth comp.test Frameserver).


Update instructions:

1) Install AVISynth 2.5
2) Install VDubMod 1.4.13.2v2 or higher!!!
3) Unpack zip into previous installation dir
4) make sure that option "use alternative mpeg2dec.dll" is set to mpeg2dec3.dll
(main form - settings tab)
5) Make sure path to Virtual Dub is set to VirtualDubMod
(this option is on the Encoder from, settings tab)

I suppose it should work even with old AVS 2.0x, but then you don't have to unpack filters (which I included in zip file - they are avs 2.5 compatible only)

Enjoy.

Update:
I've uploaded sources into module called "gknot". Contact me if you want to be developer at SF.

[hakko504]

Looks nice. Another program added to my 'to test' list...

[harel]

i try the gknot 0.28 alpha 3
i done allmost everything you say:
"1) Install AVISynth 2.5
2) Unpack zip into previous installation dir
3) make sure that option "use alternative mpeg2dec.dll" is set to mpeg2dec3.dll
4) Make sure path to Virtual Dub is set to VirtualDubMod included in zip file "
My problem is with 4 i cant find where to change this path

thanks
harel

[bond]

->encoder->add job->encoder->virtualdub

perhaps it would be great if virtualdub can be changed into virtualdubmod and divx4 into divx5!

[DoC hEx]

Hi Guys,

I’ve been doing some testing on Gknot 0.28 alpha 3.

First off, just to be picky it says its Gknot 0.28 alpha 2 on the programs title bar even though it’s in a zip that’s called alpha 3. :p

While this is purely a preview problem with MS Media Player v6.4.09.1109 (I haven’t tested any of the new versions of MPlayer to see if the same error occurs, as currently I’m only running v6.4 on my PC). I’m going to included this even though it’s not necessarily a bug, so you guys can make of it what you like. I tried to preview both an NTSC and PAL rip with AVIsynth 2.50 & 2.51 and mpeg2dec3.dll, but I only got a crap picture when it previewed in MPlayer v6.4. Basically the video source was split into three sections, two at the top and one at the bottom. The two at the top were of the movie, but it was displayed in only three colours black, green and purple. While the third section, which is the bottom half of the frame, is like a scrambled cable channel. This seems to be a MPlayer v6.4 problem, as the AVS file works correctly both in VirtualDub 1.4.13 (build 14328) and VirtualDubMod.

Note: I have also tested these MPlayer v6.4 with AVIsynth 2.07 and the default mpeg2dec.dll and it previews perfectly.

I then tried to use the Separate Fields (fast) Field Operations. I had the H-modul set to 4, and the Width x Height as 560x296 in the Output Resolution frame. Then when I previewed it with AVIsynth 2.51 / mpeg2dec3.dll, it told me YV12 height must be multiple of 4, so did VirtualDub and VirtualDubMod. It was using the Width x Height from the Crop (before resize!) frame where it was 702x338. It looks like these two Width x Height values both need to be checked with the H-Modul value, or maybe some type of warning message if it’s not a proper multiple of 4.

[len0x]

Originally posted by DoC hEx
Hi Guys,

I then tried to use the Separate Fields (fast) Field Operations. I had the H-modul set to 4, and the Width x Height as 560x296 in the Output Resolution frame. Then when I previewed it with AVIsynth 2.51 / mpeg2dec3.dll, it told me YV12 height must be multiple of 4, so did VirtualDub and VirtualDubMod. It was using the Width x Height from the Crop (before resize!) frame where it was 702x338. It looks like these two Width x Height values both need to be checked with the H-Modul value, or maybe some type of warning message if it’s not a proper multiple of 4.

Ok, I've heard that before - can anybody else comment on whether we always need mod 4 sizes for deinterlacing ?
(I'm pretty sure that without deinterlacing evrything works fine for just mod 2...)

[len0x]

Originally posted by bond

perhaps it would be great if virtualdub can be changed into virtualdubmod and divx4 into divx5!

will do...

[Kyo]

@len0x

I want to help with the project(in specific the translate part)

In the spanish(I'm spanish-guy) forum there are some interesting ideas about future additions like:

1. XviD support
2. in the Audio A,B mask also the Ogg format
3. Include the XviD stats from Koepi (if Koepi don't see a problem, of course)
4. I make a visual "change" to let GK use XP theming <-- include this also.
5. place your comment here ;)

If you need more info mail me at: KyoForever @ Gmx dot Net

PD: Neuron2 has pointed that for deinterlacing/ivct'ing the mod must be 4 because .an avisynth internal bug <-- not true, the yv12 natural form :) (thanks hakko)

[hakko504]

Originally posted by len0x
Ok, I've heard that before - can anybody else comment on whether we always need mod 4 sizes for deinterlacing ?
(I'm pretty sure that without deinterlacing evrything works fine for just mod 2...) If you are using YV12 (A2.5x) you do need mod-4 for interlaced video. Read this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42708) and this. (http://www.avisynth.org/index.php?page=DataStorageInAviSynth)


@KYO

It's not a bug, it's just the way YV12 data is stored that sets the limitation.

[harel]

bond thanks for the answer

i just finish burning "THE GAME"
i done it with the new Gknot
i use 3 pass.
do you know if there is realy a different between 2 or 3 passes

i want to know why evrey pass it stops to worn me that: "a log file already exist do you want to overwrite"
how can i overcome this problem so i can leave my pc to do the job without tuching it.

[summerbreeze]

I have big problem after instal whole things guided by ypur instructions virtualdunmod hasn't started and i have that message:
"application failed to start because libjpeg.dll was not found".
What should i do?

[len0x]

Originally posted by harel
i want to know why evrey pass it stops to worn me that: "a log file already exist do you want to overwrite"
how can i overcome this problem so i can leave my pc to do the job without tuching it.

I'll do that automatically soon, but for the moment - all you have to do is make sure to tick "don't promp for errors" box on the first codec properties page
(actally it's more 5.0.3 problem - 5.0.4 have this enabled by default)

[len0x]

Originally posted by summerbreeze
I have big problem after instal whole things guided by ypur instructions virtualdunmod hasn't started and i have that message:
"application failed to start because libjpeg.dll was not found".
What should i do?

I think you should get proper installation of VDubMod (1.4.13.2v2) some ppl have problems with the one I packed.

I will remove it soon from zip file anyway...

[Kyo]

@len0x

I suppose that you have packed also the lastest "vdubmod needed dlls", because the old ones don't work...

[len0x]

Originally posted by Kyo
@len0x

I suppose that you have packed also the lastest "vdubmod needed dlls", because the old ones don't work...

actually I packed this version:
http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Editing/VirtualDubMod_1_4_13_2.zip

It includes all needed dll already...

[bond]

Originally posted by len0x
actually I packed this version:
http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Editing/VirtualDubMod_1_4_13_2.zipthis is not the last version of virtualdubmod!!!

have a look on the virtualdubmod page on sourceforge and download version 1_4_13_2v2 and the latest dlls (260303)!

perhaps doom9 can update his link too...

[summerbreeze]

Sorry for bothering you again but:
When i changed your version of VdubMod with last from sourceforge page + all addons everything seems good but when i start comp test nothin happened ad i got message: logfile not found. unable to get compressability value.
I have WinXP SP1 and DivX 5.03

[len0x]

Originally posted by bond
this is not the last version of virtualdubmod!!!


You're right, but it works for me perfectly though...

[len0x]

Originally posted by summerbreeze
Sorry for bothering you again but:
When i changed your version of VdubMod with last from sourceforge page + all addons everything seems good but when i start comp test nothin happened ad i got message: logfile not found. unable to get compressability value.
I have WinXP SP1 and DivX 5.03

Do you have correct path for VdubMod set ?
(can you see actually application starting when you press comp test ?

p.s. click codec settings before you do comp test and see if anything fishy going on there (usually it's not compulsory to do that, but may be bug is there)

p.p.s to be on the safe side try alpha 4 which I released half an hour ago

[summerbreeze]

me again:
i use alpha 4
appliacation starts but ends immediately and i have tha same mesage as posted above.
codec properties look OK to me:
"-b1q 2.0 -psy 1 -key 250 -mv "E:\ET\VIDEO_TS\E.T._5_perc_D5_LanczosResize_704x368"

any ideas?

[len0x]

Originally posted by summerbreeze
me again:
i use alpha 4
appliacation starts but ends immediately and i have tha same mesage as posted above.
codec properties look OK to me:
"-b1q 2.0 -psy 1 -key 250 -mv "E:\ET\VIDEO_TS\E.T._5_perc_D5_LanczosResize_704x368"

any ideas?

can you manually open lastCompCheck.avs in vdubmod right after comp test failed (file is in the GK dir) ? (and may be even try saving avi, so see that vdub actually can do that)

if yes, then I need GK not log file as well as VirtualDubMod.jobs file to have some more ideas :)

if not you can mail me AVS itself (I suspect some of the filters are not working probably)

[summerbreeze]

Finaly i got I! Problem was in avs file.
Thank you for help and keep up good work!

[len0x]

Originally posted by summerbreeze
Finaly i got I! Problem was in avs file.


would you mind telling what was wrong with AVS file ?
(just want to know if its general GK problem or you manually
edited AVS file and messed it up or particular filter wasn't working...)

[summerbreeze]

AVS resizing was not compatable with AviSynth 2.5.
I suppose that's only my problem.

[len0x]

Originally posted by summerbreeze
AVS resizing was not compatable with AviSynth 2.5.
I suppose that's only my problem.

hm... you mean you've used different filter for resizing that defaults ones ? (manually editing avs file ?)

[Morbo]

Ditto SBreeze......

Im using DVX 5.0.2 being the only diff.....

No Log File after it finishes...

Im still using AVIsynth 2.0.8 and trying lanco resize....



**update**
The VirtualdubMOD included does not even work here....(settings i assume)....Clean re-do of the Mod folder makes it work,but still no COMP TEST LOG.....

[Kyo]

@len0x

I think that the vcd/svcd stuff will output a video with less values for addborders and maintain the source aspect ratio.

Also will be useful to select the ripper because for some people dvddecripter just hang the PC (in especial DVD's placed in RAID connectors)

[Blankman]

The most difficult part of using GordianKnot .28 has nothing to do with GnrdianKnot. It's the darn VirtualdubMod packaging. After downloading every single reccommended file from soundforge and struggling through two revisions of the latest VirtualdubMod. It still doesn't work. And no remedy has been documented to date.

[ookzDVD]

With the latest alpha 4,
I even can't perform the comp. check, the "now" button is grayed :(

[len0x]

Originally posted by ookzDVD
With the latest alpha 4,
I even can't perform the comp. check, the "now" button is grayed :(

it's because path to the nundub and vdub is not set... (or invalid)
(or encoder is running in the background, which is less likely :) )

[len0x]

Originally posted by Kyo
@len0x

I think that the vcd/svcd stuff will output a video with less values for addborders and maintain the source aspect ratio.


when selecting on save avs window ?
I actually haven't checked those options yet...

Originally posted by Kyo

Also will be useful to select the ripper because for some people dvddecripter just hang the PC (in especial DVD's placed in RAID connectors)

well, talk are to remove ripper/dvd2avi tab at all since we have r4r now... :)

[ookzDVD]

@len0x,

So, better I install the 0.27 first and then install the 0.28 over the 0.27. Ok. Thanks.

[len0x]

Originally posted by ookzDVD
@len0x,

So, better I install the 0.27 first and then install the 0.28 over the 0.27. Ok. Thanks.

Oh my, another think probably unclear - 0.28 is an update to 0.27 for now.
(but I thought on the first page it says "Update instructions") :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by Blankman
The most difficult part of using GordianKnot .28 has nothing to do with GnrdianKnot. It's the darn VirtualdubMod packaging. After downloading every single reccommended file from soundforge and struggling through two revisions of the latest VirtualdubMod. It still doesn't work. And no remedy has been documented to date.

It's difficult for me debugging the problem since I don't have one. And I'm not really experienced user of VDubMod. So can some one investigate what can be wrong and try to find version (put together correct version + dll) that works ?

That would be great!

[ookzDVD]

@len0x,

yeppie, I think the latest VirtualDubMod 1.4.13.2_v2 is working well,
at least on my machine.

Just rename the VirtualDubMod directory to VirtualDub and VirtualDubMod.exe to VirtualDub.exe everything is working well :)

Thank you.

[len0x]

Originally posted by ookzDVD
@len0x,
Just rename the VirtualDubMod directory to VirtualDub and VirtualDubMod.exe to VirtualDub.exe everything is working well :)

Thank you.

well I actually spent some time fixing the problem of renaming, so there should be no renaming required if you specify the correct path on the last tab of the Encode form! Is that still not working ?

(I know that location of the path is not really convenient since Encode form comes after save avs form where you'd like to be able to do comp test... but this becomes sort of a FAQ :) )

[ookzDVD]

@len0x,

Gotcha! I know your point :)
Since I never use GKnot for encoding, so I never click the "Save & Encode" :) I just click the "Save" button.

I know the Encoder Form which show after click "Save & Encode" button.
I think I can change the path from there. Thank you.

[len0x]

Does anybody know whether it looks for

"virtualdubmod.jobs"

or still for

"virtualdub.jobs"

or both ?

[maurus]

Originally posted by len0x
I think you should get proper installation of VDubMod (1.4.13.2v2) some ppl have problems with the one I packed.

I will remove it soon from zip file anyway...

Yes, that'is also my problem. I fixed it with the VirtuadubMod "v2" that I downloaded from Virtualdub SourceForge Project.

[maurus]

The buttons for directly call the codec configuration window, they seem to me well. Better than to request the same things of another form and soon to pass them to codec.

Actually, the dialogue of codec 5.03/4 properties is now very easy with the profiles and, in addition, this solution can be used for all the versions of the codecs in the future.

Perhaps the only thing would be to put some defaults...

Gordian Knot is for me a platform in order to unify and to make easier all the process from DVD rip to obtaining the final DivX. But, I think, it is not a tool for very newbies. For which, there are other utilities...

[Ruppl]

@ len0x

I´ve got another problem with the new 0.28 verion of Gknot. After I´ve done my settings, the button "Add job to encoding Queue" in the Encoder Control Panel is grey and unavailable.
Pathes through Nandub and VirtualDub are set....

Some other guys in the german doom forum got the same Problem!:(
My System WinXp SP1, AthlonXp

[len0x]

Originally posted by Ruppl
@ len0x

I´ve got another problem with the new 0.28 verion of Gknot. After I´ve done my settings, the button "Add job to encoding Queue" in the Encoder Control Panel is grey and unavailable.
Pathes through Nandub and VirtualDub are set....


See at the moment you have to click on buttons "First pass" and "Nth pass" :) (you don't have to change there anything if you don't familiar with that dialog - just press OK). The same goes for Credits (if you're selected to encode them)

In the future it'll be more automated, but at the moment those settings have to be set...

[len0x]

Originally posted by maurus
Perhaps the only thing would be to put some defaults...


remember you mentioned "don't prompt on errors" option?
can you find out which option in registry is that (and what's the type and values) for me, pls ?
(I don't have 5.0.3 installed at the moment - working with 5.0.2...)

[Killstun]

First of all, thanks for the new GKnot. Was just wondering if AVIsynth files has to be in VirtualDubMod folder, or is it enough if they exist in the system32 folder? (on WinXP)

[ookzDVD]

@len0x,

If you don't mind, the changelog will be a little bit better :)

[Ecwfrk]

I intalled .28 alpha 5 and am getting the old log file problem.
In the setup it shows:
I:\Rips\2-1\2-1.log
Which is also the file it shows it couldn't open in the encoding window. The file that is actually written to the directory the movie is in is
I:\Rips\2-1\2-1_GKnot.log
It's adding _GKnot to the log file name for some reason. Haven't found any reason for it myself. Any idea where that's coming from?

Paths to everything is correct. Using the Nandub from the GKnot pack and the latest, fresh install of VDubMod
Also:
Divx 5.03 Pro
P4 2.4 on Win XP SP1

[TheWEF]

Originally posted by Ecwfrk
...and am getting the old log file problem.

no offence, but this is your first post and you have never seen a *_gknot.log file...
thank you for trying to help, but for alpha testing you might not be experienced enough. :)

wef.

[maurus]

Originally posted by len0x
remember you mentioned "don't prompt on errors" option?
can you find out which option in registry is that (and what's the type and values) for me, pls ?
(I don't have 5.0.3 installed at the moment - working with 5.0.2...)

I see with the registry:

For option Do not prompt for errors and warnigs:

Name key : Use dialogs
Type: REG_DWORD
Value: 0 (if is checked) / 1 (not checked)

[len0x]

thanks
I've put that option to be checked by default...

[Ruppl]

@ len0x

Thank´s for the info. Know works fine......:)
Very Happy with the new version Gknot..keep going

cu