Advanced Benchmark v.2 for H264, H265, AV1 and H266

[Sagittaire]

New result.
What about new cooler, if you ask, it's... the exact same model (Thermalright PA140), I just want to leave the old one for 7950X.
And of course both are white, white is the new trend, yay.


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| CPU | Ryzen 9 9950X 16-Core Processor
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 27.864 s +26% 7905X
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 34.895 s +24.6% 7950X
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 41.628 s +29.7% 7950X
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 70.095 s +24.2% 7950X
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 198.267 s +26.3% 7950X
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No overclocking or PBO?
Just 9950X at default stock?

[Z2697]

No overclocking or PBO?
Just 9950X at default stock?

PBO, curve optimizer -10 only, also I think both of my results are with unlocked power limit, the default is limited to 200w even with PBO (auto). After unlocking the power draw reported by PPT is ~250w with peaks at 270w.

Do you prefer all stock result?

[Sagittaire]

PBO, curve optimizer -10 only, also I think both of my results are with unlocked power limit, the default is limited to 200w even with PBO (auto). After unlocking the power draw reported by PPT is ~250w with peaks at 270w.

Do you prefer all stock result?

Yes, because other CPU result will be at stock.

Moreover compare PBO and stock result will be interessing.

[Z2697]

Yes, because other CPU result will be at stock.

Moreover compare PBO and stock result will be interessing.

I'll try stock setting when I have chance (and can remember), I'm that kind of person who don't like to turn off their computer:cool:

I anticipate the stock performance will be like a mini 7950X (4nm vs 5nm, get the joke?) because the 200w power limit don't seem to exist for 7950X, I don't know, could be a BIOS thing. I also upgraded the motherboard from B650 (no E) to X670E.

[Sagittaire]

I'll try stock setting when I have chance (and can remember), I'm that kind of person who don't like to turn off their computer:cool:

I anticipate the stock performance will be like a mini 7950X (4nm vs 5nm, get the joke?) because the 200w power limit don't seem to exist for 7950X, I don't know, could be a BIOS thing. I also upgraded the motherboard from B650 (no E) to X670E.

No because:

- IPC for Zen 5 is higher than Zen 4 (+9%)
- Clock for 9950X will be higher than 7950X at full charge (4nm vs 5 nm)
- You have full AVX-512 functionality for Zen 5 and not for zen 4

In fact the PBO gain is really small (2-3% maximum)

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/YYomJEeYSjcFSmsE4Ap5PX-1200-80.png.webp

[Z2697]

No because:

- IPC for Zen 5 is higher than Zen 4 (+9%)
- Clock for 9950X will be higher than 7950X at full charge (4nm vs 5 nm)
- You have full AVX-512 functionality for Zen 5 and not for zen 4

In fact the PBO gain is really small (2-3% maximum)


Not if it uses 25% less power.

[Z2697]

Stock setting (including RAM).
Actually not as bas as I thought. But bad still.

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| CPU | Ryzen 9 9950X 16-Core Processor
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 32.676 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 38.351 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 46.533 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 76.230 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 216.719 s
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[RanmaCanada]

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| CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 16-Core Processor
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 38.318 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 45.435 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 57.641 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 88.859 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 257.600 s
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[renq]

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| CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 6-Core Processor
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 88.168 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 102.724 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 125.620 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 185.319 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 486.553 s
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| CPU | 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400 (AVX512 unlocked)
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 116.620 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 141.584 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 149.133 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 262.928 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 686.416 s
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| CPU | 12th Gen Core i5-12400 (AVX-512 off)
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 115.997 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 142.918 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 156.254 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 266.348 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 680.756 s
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[renq]

How come the avx off results overall time is 680,756, but when you add up the four separate scores, it comes to 681,517 :confused::confused::confused:

[rwill]

@renq How come your individual times for "AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 6-Core Processor" add up to 501.831 but overall it says 486.553 ?

Questions... questions...

[renq]

@renq How come your individual times for "AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 6-Core Processor" add up to 501.831 but overall it says 486.553 ?

Questions... questions...I really dont know, i presumed the overall is kind of like a total time (encoding plus prep time plus whatnot). Generally looking at the results posted here overall seems to be more than the sum of the 4 so it's a fair assumption...
Why my both results defy that expectation, I dont know.

[Z2697]

Haven't look into the benchmark script yet but I think the "overall" is not intended to be the sum of the previous time consumptions.


- x264, x265, SVT-AV1 and VVCEnc 2.0 Mbps 1080p24 HDR 10-bit "fast" profile encodings with 4 simultaneous "ABR Ladder" mode encodings.

[Sagittaire]

Haven't look into the benchmark script yet but I think the "overall" is not intended to be the sum of the previous time consumptions.

Exactly.

1) H264, H265, H266 and AV1 encoding are multipart encoding (four 1080p encoding scession for only one source).

2) Overall score are simultaneous complete encoding (ABR ladder encoding for specialist) with H264, H265, H266 and AV1

That's mean overall time must be certainely near to sum of all other, but not completely the same time.

[RanmaCanada]

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| CPU | 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-13650HX
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 91.642 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 97.924 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 113.404 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 175.863 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 712.901 s
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[Nate463]

Someone can make this bench with 14900K?

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| CPU | Core i9-14900K
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 33.965 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 43.507 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 51.432 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 86.797 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 241.588 s
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Pre-Microcode Update; 253W PL1 and PL2; 320A ICCMax; Stock frequencies, but undervolted 0.115V

[Sagittaire]

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| CPU | Core i9-14900K
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 33.965 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 43.507 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 51.432 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 86.797 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 241.588 s
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Pre-Microcode Update; 253W PL1 and PL2; 320A ICCMax; Stock frequencies, but undervolted 0.115V

Really interessing. You can make bench at complete stock configuration without undervolting?

And test with best OC for you (undervolting and power limit boost).


Here first comparison:

https://i.ibb.co/K7KVfQg/Bench.png (https://ibb.co/wCcpPbq)

And 14900K beat 7950x for H264 and AV1, 7950X beat 14900K for H265 and H266. Anayway, 14900K is first in Overall Score vs 7950X.

9950X with PBO obtain really impressive results. You have big OC potential with 9950X.

[Sagittaire]

For more comparison I need;

- 14400F or 14400 for comparison with other 16 threads CPU
- 5600X, 7600X, 9600X for comparison with other 12 threads CPU
- 3950X to complete 16C/32T comparison
- 12900K ou 12900KF to complete 8C/16T comparison
- 1700X or 1800X, 2700X, 3700x or 3800X and 9800X3D to complete 8C/16T comparison

[Z2697]

Another important thing to consider is thermal (including the external environment) because of the way the modern CPUs are boosting, but which is near impossible to control for "crowdsourced" results.

[Sagittaire]

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| CPU | 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-13650HX
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 91.642 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 97.924 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 113.404 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 175.863 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 712.901 s
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THX for the bench but Overall score is really not good: must be in 475-500 interval ???

[Sagittaire]

Another important thing to consider is thermal (including the external environment) because of the way the modern CPUs are boosting, but which is near impossible to control for "crowdsourced" results.

Your 9950X with PBO is monster for this benchmark ... :eek:

[renq]

For more comparison I need;

- 14400F or 14400 for comparison with other 16 threads CPU
- 5600X, 7600X, 9600X for comparison with other 12 threads CPU
- 3950X to complete 16C/32T comparison
- 12900K ou 12900KF to complete 8C/16T comparison
- 1700X or 1800X, 2700X, 3700x or 3800X and 9800X3D to complete 8C/16T comparison

12900 is 8/16 p-cores + 8/8 e-cores :p

[f0ns02003]

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| CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core Processor
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 58.348 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 68.090 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 79.863 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 127.898 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 350.710 s
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Asrock X570 Phantom Gaming X
64gb DDR4 3600

Please, recheck.

That's my results on a simple MSI Tomahawk MAX B450 32GB DDR4-3600 CL16

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| CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core Processor
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 51.286 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 57.860 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 72.026 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 113.843 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 323.121 s
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Probably with your MB can squeeze more juice from your cpu, mine is quite limited because of weak VRMs (i came from an 3700x -> 5700x -> 5950x, that's my last update to this system)

[RanmaCanada]

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| CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 8845HS w/ Radeon 780M Graphics
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 94.773 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 109.980 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 128.102 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 186.895 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 531.000 s
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[Hellboy.]

ASUS ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING
16GB 3200

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| CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 129.779 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 157.794 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 178.939 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 284.429 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 732.228 s
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[renq]

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| CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 6-Core Processor
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 88.168 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 102.724 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 125.620 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 185.319 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 486.553 s
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| CPU | Ryzen 5 8400F 6-Core Processor
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 99.174 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 118.542 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 149.493 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 214.164 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 579.821 s
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---2x8GB ddr5-6000/40, b650m-ds3h, wraith stealth cooler

[tormento]

Would be nice to see Arrow Lake results after microcode updates. Anyone?

[GeoffreyA]

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| CPU | Ryzen 5 4600G with Radeon Graphics
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 165.112 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 184.435 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 216.128 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 346.113 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 924.902 s
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* MSI B450 Tomahawk, PBO off, DDR4-2666

[rwill]

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| CPU | Ryzen Threadripper 3970X 32-Core Processor
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 33.129 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 44.646 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 49.828 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 113.876 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 350.959 s
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Oh no! My Zen2 Threadripper aged like milk.

[GeoffreyA]

Oh no! My Zen2 Threadripper aged like milk.

I think the cores and threads are just not being fully saturated.

[Asmodian]

9950X3D
PBO enabled

32 Threads
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| CPU | Ryzen 9 9950X3D 16-Core Processor
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 27.028 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 35.195 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 41.492 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 68.491 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 195.762 s
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16 Threads (SMT Off)
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| CPU | Ryzen 9 9950X3D 16-Core Processor
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 33.098 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 41.913 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 49.684 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 77.733 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 197.154 s
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[benwaggoner]

I think the cores and threads are just not being fully saturated.
Testing 2160p 10-bit would be a broader stress test these days. A lot more for cores to do on a single encode with modern encoders. x265 and SVT-AV1 are particularly good at splitting a single encode across multiple threads at higher resolutions, with frame-threading and intra-frame-threading (WPP and columns)

[huhn]

eco 65 watt:
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| CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8-Core Processor
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 64.568 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 82.549 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 93.218 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 152.390 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 384.597 s
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[jpsdr]

CPU: 7975WX (AVX512 & HT enabled in the BIOS) => 32 physical cores (64 logicals).
Motherboard: ASUS Pro WS WRX90E-SAGE SE
Memory CORSAIR CMA128GX5M8B5600C40(Ver 5.43.01) 8x 16GB

I've made a Windows 10/Windows 11 dual boot.
PC is totaly offline, a lot of services disabled, so it's doing "almost" nothing else and so there is "almost" no waste of time.

Windows 10
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| CPU | AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 7975WX 32-Cores
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 21.721 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 28.248 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 32.781 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 65.163 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 199.641 s
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Windows 11
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| CPU | AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 7975WX 32-Cores
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 23.230 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 33.054 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 35.382 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 95.966 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 291.563 s
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[Emulgator]

Yee-ha !

[benwaggoner]

I'm surprised that these latest test don't show bigger differences in encoding speed; SVT-AV1 should be at least several times slower than x264. Perhaps it's being Amdahl''s Law'ed by a read or preprocessing operation?

Going straight from a .y4m or .yuv file on SSD storage is generally the cleanest way to test just encoder performance.

[Z2697]

I'm surprised that these latest test don't show bigger differences in encoding speed; SVT-AV1 should be at least several times slower than x264. Perhaps it's being Amdahl''s Law'ed by a read or preprocessing operation?

Going straight from a .y4m or .yuv file on SSD storage is generally the cleanest way to test just encoder performance.

That's gonna depend on the presets and other settings.
I didn't read the entire script word by word, but from a glance it uses veryslow for x264 and "4" for SVT-AV1.

[GeoffreyA]

I'm surprised that these latest test don't show bigger differences in encoding speed; SVT-AV1 should be at least several times slower than x264. Perhaps it's being Amdahl''s Law'ed by a read or preprocessing operation?

Going straight from a .y4m or .yuv file on SSD storage is generally the cleanest way to test just encoder performance.

Above the slower presets, SVT-AV1 gets surprisingly fast, reaching x264's speed. On slower presets, it starts returning to that sluggish libaom territory.

EDIT: Very unscientifically, using default settings for a short 1080p clip, SVT-AV1-PSY (preset 8) ends with 56 fps and x264 (medium) with 42 fps. This is on a 6-core CPU.

[Asmodian]

CPU: 7975WX (AVX512 & HT enabled in the BIOS) => 32 physical cores (64 logicals).

I think there are scheduling issues with your Windows 11 install. Do you have NUMA enabled? Are AMD's drivers installed?

Your Windows 11 result for Overall is significantly worse than my result with only 16 cores and two CCDs (also in Windows 11), while the other tests are quite a bit faster. :confused:

[jpsdr]

How do i check if NUMA is enabled ? I think so, but don't remember specificaly in my BIOS investigation.
About AMD Drivers, i installed what there was on ASUS web site for my motherboard : AMD_Chipset_Driver_V5.06.13.252_WIN10_WIN11_64-bit.
Is it what you were thinking about ?

Edit:
This was what ASUS provided.
I found on AMD website AMD_Chipset_Software_6.10.17.152, i'll try to install there and re-check, but it will have to wait a few days, i'm running an encode...

Edit2:
It took me a little time, but i've finaly found the proper AMD link to up to date drivers for my chipset (amd_chipset_software_7.06.02.123). I don't know if it will have a significant effect, but indeed drivers provided by ASUS are a little outdated.
Also, x265 logs enumerate NUMA, i don't know if it meens or not that NUMA are enabled.

[benwaggoner]

That's gonna depend on the presets and other settings.
I didn't read the entire script word by word, but from a glance it uses veryslow for x264 and "4" for SVT-AV1.
Ah, the eternal philosophical question about what are the "fair" settings for an apples-to-kumquants comparison across different codecs.

Equivalent quality?

Equivalent performance on a particular reference platform?

Convex hull on BD-RATE for the best available metric?

"Standard" use (good luck defining that).

[RanmaCanada]

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| CPU | Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 265T
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 94.768 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 134.187 s
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| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 157.324 s
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| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 230.701 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 602.443 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------


I don't think it understands how to use this processor..

And my new build that I finished today. Using a NH-D15S to keep it cool. (at peak 95C and 100% stock bios settings so 200w max)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| CPU | Ryzen 9 9950X 16-Core Processor
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 38.902 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 39.921 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 50.546 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 78.146 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 218.687 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------

[Sagittaire]

I think the cores and threads are just not being fully saturated.

Well my benchmark can easely saturate 64 thread. And at worst if you have not saturation, you lose simply SMT performance (~25% up) when you compare at 16C/32T CPU.

in fact the explanation is that Ryzen Threadripper 3970X is Zen2 architechture without AVX2 and AVX512 SMID.

If you compare 3900x (zen 2 12C/24T) and 9900X (zen 5 12C/24T) in stockfish benchmark (full saturation up to 1024 thread, AVX512 optimized benchmark):

3900X: 12.53 MN/s
9900X: 23.61 MN/s (+88%)

9950X (16C/32T) could be simply at same performance level that 3970X (32C/64T) in full satured CPU thread scenario at full power level ...

[Sagittaire]

Possible to make this bench at stock 120W TDP?

The difference between 65W vs 120W is huge in stockfisch benchmark:

9700x 65W: 14.79 MN/s
9800x3D 120W: 17.29 MN/s (+17%)




eco 65 watt:
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8-Core Processor
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 64.568 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 82.549 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 93.218 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 152.390 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 384.597 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------

[Sagittaire]

Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 265T is 35W TDP CPU. At this power, you have really limited performance.

Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 265K at full power is 125W TDP CPU.


|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| CPU | Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 265T
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 94.768 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 134.187 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 157.324 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 230.701 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 602.443 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------


I don't think it understands how to use this processor..
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[Sagittaire]

Your 7975WX is a monster.

I can write 8 encoding part version of this bench to fully saturate 64 threads if you want.


CPU: 7975WX (AVX512 & HT enabled in the BIOS) => 32 physical cores (64 logicals).
Motherboard: ASUS Pro WS WRX90E-SAGE SE
Memory CORSAIR CMA128GX5M8B5600C40(Ver 5.43.01) 8x 16GB

I've made a Windows 10/Windows 11 dual boot.
PC is totaly offline, a lot of services disabled, so it's doing "almost" nothing else and so there is "almost" no waste of time.

Windows 10
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| CPU | AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 7975WX 32-Cores
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 21.721 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 28.248 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 32.781 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 65.163 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 199.641 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------


Windows 11
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| CPU | AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 7975WX 32-Cores
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 23.230 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 33.054 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 35.382 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 95.966 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 291.563 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------

[jpsdr]

Your 7975WX is a monster.

Well... As by chance i had the money for, i build it to make 4k encodes.
On my other dedicated PC video, it takes 9 days for me to encode an 1h45 movie, now it takes 3 days to encode in parallel two 1h45 movies.

Honestly, i'm done with benchmark now...
There still this strange speed difference between Windows10/11, don't know why, but don't care, i'm using Windows 10 for now.

[Sagittaire]

Well... As by chance i had the money for, i build it to make 4k encodes.
On my other dedicated PC video, it takes 9 days for me to encode an 1h45 movie, now it takes 3 days to encode in parallel two 1h45 movies.

Honestly, i'm done with benchmark now...
There still this strange speed difference between Windows10/11, don't know why, but don't care, i'm using Windows 10 for now.

well even with 2 parallel 4K movies, you can't saturate 64 threads (one 4K movie can't saturate CPU like 9950X with 16C/32T). Certainely that 9950X with PBO will produce better speed that your 7975WX to make that.

I can write for you profile to saturate at 100% your CPU with only one movie (4 or 8 multipart 4K can make that I think). I think that time will reduce at 1 day for 1h45 movie encoding.

[Sagittaire]

How do i check if NUMA is enabled ? I think so, but don't remember specificaly in my BIOS investigation.
About AMD Drivers, i installed what there was on ASUS web site for my motherboard : AMD_Chipset_Driver_V5.06.13.252_WIN10_WIN11_64-bit.
Is it what you were thinking about ?

Edit:
This was what ASUS provided.
I found on AMD website AMD_Chipset_Software_6.10.17.152, i'll try to install there and re-check, but it will have to wait a few days, i'm running an encode...

Edit2:
It took me a little time, but i've finaly found the proper AMD link to up to date drivers for my chipset (amd_chipset_software_7.06.02.123). I don't know if it will have a significant effect, but indeed drivers provided by ASUS are a little outdated.
Also, x265 logs enumerate NUMA, i don't know if it meens or not that NUMA are enabled.

Well I have recently speed problem in windows 11 24H2 certainely with default setting in new update. All external executable like ffmpeg.exe, x264.exe or x265.exe make now CLI execution at low priority by default. And low priority don't use CPU at 100% and don't saturate CPU speed at max possible power. It's really a problem because the encoding speed lowering is insane:


ffmpeg at default priority: CPU at 97% and 3.9 Ghz
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| CPU | Ryzen 9 7940HS w/ Radeon 780M Graphics
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 98.035 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 116.327 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 143.142 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 206.817 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 549.100 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------

ffmpeg at high priority: CPU at 100% and 4.55 Ghz
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| CPU | Ryzen 9 7940HS w/ Radeon 780M Graphics
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 80.118 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 96.132 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 116.769 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 176.120 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 468.583 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------

[jpsdr]

Well I have recently speed problem in windows 11 24H2 certainely with default setting in new update. All external executable like ffmpeg.exe, x264.exe or x265.exe make now CLI execution at low priority by default.

Is there a setting somewhere to change ?