how can I burn *.dts to audio CD

[sebus]

Well, as stated, with Diana Krall CD (store bought) all I done was was to rip track 01 in EAC.

As I did not have ant .dts around so I used besplit to convert the above .wav to .dts


besplit -core(-logfile c:\temp\besplit.log -input w:\01_Track01.dtswav.wav -output W:\DTS2.dts -type dtswav -b 1411 -fix)


If I process original ripped .wav with wav2dts then the result .dts is different then besplit result
But using ONLY wav2dts AND dts2wav one can gets .wav as the original

But wav2dts produced .dts is UNUSABLE (not playable in anything)

Sadly the besplit created .dts plays WAY TOO FAST & jittery


General
Complete name : E:\01 - Diana Krall - All or Nothing at All.wav
Format : Wave
File size : 47.3 MiB
Duration : 4mn 41s
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 1 411 Kbps

Audio
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Mode : 14
Format settings, Endianness : Little
Codec ID : 1
Duration : 4mn 41s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : Open
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Frame rate : 43.066 fps (1024 spf)
Bit depth : 20 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 47.3 MiB (100%)
===========================

General
Complete name : W:\01.besplit.dts
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
File size : 41.3 MiB
Duration : 4mn 40s
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 1 235 Kbps

Audio
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Duration : 4mn 40s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 235 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Frame rate : 43.066 fps (1024 spf)
Bit depth : 20 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 41.3 MiB (100%)


sebus

[sebus]

Out of interest, can you burn this 'image' file (http://www.sendspace.com/file/69pifj) I have created for you to a CD-R/RW disc and see if your DVD player detects it in a different way to your creations?

Cheers

Yes, it is recognized as CD & played fine as DTS

Old Pioneer DV-420V (http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/products/archive/DV-420V-K/page.html)

[tebasuna51]

Remember than standard DTS like used for DTS-CD don't have bitdepth, is wrong say:

"it's a 20-bit stream that was flagged as 16-bit"

or

"On the CD covers spine they are stated as being 24-bit"

Only the PCM source for these DTS can have a bitdepth, the encoded DTS don't have bitdepth anymore.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Indeed (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1667005#post1667005) ;)

[filler56789]

Remember than standard DTS like used for DTS-CD don't have bitdepth, is wrong say:

"it's a 20-bit stream that was flagged as 16-bit"

or

"On the CD covers spine they are stated as being 24-bit"

Only the PCM source for these DTS can have a bitdepth, the encoded DTS don't have bitdepth anymore.

Surely, and thanks for the overdue reminder, BUT
here go what MediaInfo and LeeAudBi said about the sample file shared by sebus

(suggesting that, if the file itself is not (very) "problematic",
then there are some applications which don't like it very-much :) )

Complete name : G:\0000\Downloadx\2014\02\DTStoo\DTS2.dts
File size : 41.3 MiB

(FWIW, LeeAudBi took AGES :scared: to read the sample file)

----------------------------------------- First Frame Info
CRC present .................: 0 (Not)
Number of PCM Sample Blocks .: 31 ( 1024 samples/frame)
Primary Frame Byte Size .....: 3584 ( 3585 bytes/frame)
Audio Channel Arrangement ...: 9 (5 C + L + R + SL + SR)
Core Audio Samp. Frequency ..: 8 (44,1 kHz)
Transmission Bit Rate .......: 22 (1411,2 Kb/s)
Embedded Down Mix Enabled ...: 0 (Not)
Embedded Dynamic Range Flag .: 0 (Not)
Embedded Time Stamp Flag ....: 0 (Not)
Auxiliary Data Flag .........: 0 (Not)
Mastered in HDCD format .....: 0 (Not)
Extension Audio Descr. Flag .: 0 (Channel Extension XCh)
Extended Coding Flag ........: 0 (Not)
Audio Sync Word Insert. Flag : 1 (Sub-sub-frame)
Low Frequency Effects Flag ..: 2 (Present, interpolation factor 64)
Predictor History Flag Switch: 1 (Yes)
Multirate Interpolator Switch: 0 (Non-perfect Reconstruction)
Encoder Software Revision ...: 7 (Current)
Copy History ................: 1 (Definition deliberately omitted)
Source PCM Resolution .......: 2 (20 bits)
Front Sum/Difference Flag ...: 0 (Not)
Surrounds Sum/Difference Flag: 0 (Not)
Dialog Normalization Param. .: - 0 dB
--------------------------------------------- Revised Info
Final bytes invalid: 7167 (Frame incomplete)
Total Frames ......: 6043
Duration ..........: 140.318 seconds. ( 0 h. 2 m. 20.318 s.)
Pad Bytes min./max.: 3583 / 3583 (bytes between frames)
------------------------------------------------- End Info

[tebasuna51]

(FWIW, LeeAudBi took AGES :scared: to read the sample file)
Yes, was made longtime ago with a old Visual Basic.
And LeeAudBi read all frame header checking basic fields values.
MediaInfo read only filesize and the first frame, for that can't know the duration of VBR encodes like DTS-HD.

Primary Frame Byte Size .....: 3584 ( 3585 bytes/frame)
...
Source PCM Resolution .......: 2 (20 bits)
--------------------------------------------- Revised Info
Total Frames ......: 6043
Duration ..........: 140.318 seconds. ( 0 h. 2 m. 20.318 s.)
Pad Bytes min./max.: 3583 / 3583 (bytes between frames)
------------------------------------------------- End Info


This is a DTS with a wrong value in Primary Frame Byte Size, instead 3585 must be 3584, when LeeAudBi skip 3585 bytes to read the next frame don't found a valid header until 3583 bytes after (and read byte to byte the file to found the next).

Then the valid frames detected is 6043 but must be double.

[sebus]

Bacause I think dts2wav does no create wav file correctly

(take .dtswav - convert to .dts with besplit, user dt2wav to get back dtswav, which is DIFFERENT then the original .dtswav !)

What else can convert dts to dtswav? (fb2k can only convert to 6 channel PCM)

sebus

[SeeMoreDigital]

What else can convert dts to dtswav? (fb2k can only convert to 6 channel PCM)
As mentioned before, SPDIFer (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1667458#post1667458) can...

[sebus]

spdifer produces EXACTLY the same SIZE file but DIFFERENT content then dts2wav (which is also DIFFERENT then the original .dtswav)

SeeMoreDigital is CORRECT below!

sebus

[sebus]

Some free .dts (and .ac3) files are here (http://www.diatonis.com/surround_sound_music.html) in case anybody needs

[SeeMoreDigital]

spdifer produces EXACTLY the same file BYTE IDENTICAL as dts2wav

I don't see how that's possible: -

http://i59.tinypic.com/2zf2yrb.png

http://i60.tinypic.com/2ivy4n.png

[sebus]

I don't see how that's possible: -


Correct, I was talking rubbish!

See post #109 above (and edited #101 in which my file was
exactly the same SIZE but not content!)

http://imageshack.com/a/img842/1039/k5bl.png

sebus


It seems that .dtswav --> wav2dts --> .dts --> dts2wav --> .dtswav (identical to original!)

But .dts is unusable

[sebus]

As mentioned before, SPDIFer (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1667458#post1667458) can...

No, even the old version of spdifer does not produce perfectly playable .dts
Created .dts file plays too fast

Here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/eqixbr) is the original ripped .dtswav that I am playing with

sebus

EDIT:

Sorted, here (https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,94988.msg933749.html#msg933749)