BD Rebuilder 3D Blu Ray

[Saibling]

For now, I use Powerdirector 10, I remake menu and burn it to MVC disc (25GB).

how do you manage to get your original mvc 3d movie in there? i don't know how to set the right input format. i can't find mvc there...

[Cedvano]

I don't change any settings, only the kbps.

[Saibling]

are you able to import the ssif file directly? how do you "remake" the menu? do you create own ones or are you able to import the original and change it?

[Cedvano]

No, I dont use SSIF. I convert to SBS Full with DVDFab. Then I use Powerdirect 10 for the MVC. I mux it in my 2DBD and change settings in BDedit.

[KarstenS]

It's not true. All BD3D disc is backward compatible with 2D players. Publishers just limit this possibility in BD-navigation. To back this compatibility you just need to edit MovieObject.bdmv.

You are right. With testing my 3D BDs here I got to the same result.

The backward compatibility stuff is stored on every disk. On 3D-only disks it is just not offered to the user.

I copied the complete disk of Tron Legacy to my harddrive, deleted every m2ts file, that belongs to ssif files and got a folder with the size of the disk.

And...the most important thing...it played without any issue.

Result: I've made a full working full backup of a 3D-only BD that I could burn to BD....but I've no BD burner (no need for that, I rebuild my movies only for HTPC storage).

[Saibling]

... deleted every m2ts file, that belongs to ssif files and got a folder with the size of the disk.

And...the most important thing...it played without any issue.

But that is exactly the problem: we CAN work with m2ts files, but we can NOT work with ssif files by now.

that's why so far there isn't any chance to shrink such a full 3D MVC SSIF movie to fit on a disc with less storage capability than the original one.

[KarstenS]

but we can NOT work with ssif files by now.

Hmm:

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/8924/ssif.png

DVDFab can do.

3DBDBuster too.

All three can read ssif files, as this ist the onliest way to get left AND right view.

The thing, thats still to do is muxing the result back to ssif.

[jdobbs]

Ok guys... I've been lenient up until now about staying on topic, but this discussion stopping being about DVD or BD Rebuilder a long time ago. How about moving the discussion to another sub-forum? I'm thinking "Blu-ray Authoring" or "Advanced Authoring" -- not sure, but definitely not here.

[Saibling]

We perhaps write here about other programs, but our goal is it to find out how it woks and get it intergrated to bd rebuilder by you jdobbs :)

[jdobbs]

It has nothing to do with writing about other programs... frankly I couldn't care less about them. But this forum is about BD Rebuilder and DVD Rebuilder and neither of those items have had anything to do with the discussion of the last several pages (let alone posts). I'm not saying this isn't interesting, but there are other forums where these types of academic discusssions apply. They just don't belong here. Most importantly -- when people are trying to find out this kind of information or want to discuss it -- this isn't where they are going to logically look for it.

[joshcali]

Ok, so here's an on-topic question...

Is it my understanding (from what I'm reading here) that BD Rebuilder won't back up 3D Blu-Rays for fair use?

is there any solution with BD Rebuilder?

[Ch3vr0n]

BDRB can backup 3DBD's just fine to a 2D only copy. Currently there is NO way with any software to shrink BD3D's to BD25 due to how they're authored.

[jdobbs]

What he said.

[drmih]

BDRB can backup 3DBD's just fine to a 2D only copy. Currently there is NO way with any software to shrink BD3D's to BD25 due to how they're authored.

I have noticed that someone is able to produce bd-25 3D remuxes, so hopefully the method will become known so that it can be implemented. All of the ones I've read the information about seem to be movie only (not that there is anything but the movie and a menu on all of the 3D discs that I own), but I'm guessing that this is just to save space. Comparing the original with the remux, both the two 'large' M2TS files in STREAM have been reduced in size by approximately 50% (they are still 1080P), as has the main file in the SSIF sub-directory.

[Ch3vr0n]

I'm pretty sure we all would like to know (especially jdobbs) who this "someone" is, how he did it and see some proof of it.

[jdobbs]

I'm pretty sure we all would like to know (especially jdobbs) who this "someone" is, how he did it and see some proof of it. I followed that thread a little (if its the one I'm thinking of). It required use of some software that someone had "downloaded" (presumedly illegally). I will definitely stay away from that method.

[drmih]

I wasn't being cryptic, I have only seen the outcome. The remuxes seem to be the work of 3d@3d.com (probably just a posting name), whoever he is. The evidence is that they exist -the last two I've seen are Hugo and Immortals.

Directory of n:\bdmv\stream

23/02/2012 15:08 <DIR> .
23/02/2012 15:08 <DIR> ..
23/02/2012 14:57 15,523,080,192 00000.m2ts
23/02/2012 15:07 9,062,664,192 00001.m2ts
23/02/2012 15:08 <DIR> SSIF
2 File(s) 24,585,745,184 bytes

Directory of n:\bdmv\stream\SSIF

23/02/2012 15:08 <DIR> .
23/02/2012 15:08 <DIR> ..
23/02/2012 15:08 24,585,744,384 00000.ssif
1 File(s) 24,585,744,664 bytes