Unofficial Haali Media Splitter bug tracker

[06_taro]

1. dts in mp4 cannot be splitted.
Sample( HMS fails to pin to audio decoder ): dts-test.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?fvbf08ueziegbk3)

2. only shows the root chapter of sub-chapters ( nested chapters )
Sample( xml chapter file, mux it in any matroska files ): Subchapter-Sample.7z (http://www.mediafire.com/?q2eq1jzrbjjor1a)

[VFR maniac]

1. dts in mp4 cannot be splitted.
Sample( HMS fails to pin to audio decoder ): dts-test.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?fvbf08ueziegbk3)


This DTS in MP4 is created by an unofficial way.
'mp4a' + ObjectTypeIndication for DTS audio is not specified in the specification (ETSI TS 102 114 V1.3.1).
DTS core stream shall be assigned with codingname 'dtsc'.

If this file is created by libavformat, only libavformat shall split it.
Don't scatter files that are out of spec.

[06_taro]

OK, the previous sample is not proper. Made a new one with l-smash: dts_in_mp4-test2-dtsc.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/?bde4ra3u9wbpacr)

[an3k]

[QUOTE=clsid;1387134]Bugs in all recent versions:

Files with a large number of tracks (>32 ?) won't load.


In the latest version 1.11.96.14 (taken from http://haali.su/mkv/) and 1.11.287.23 (included in CoreAVC 3.0.1 Professional Edition) for both, 32-Bit and 64-Bit plattforms the files loads but only 32 tracks are shown.

[LigH]

The most current Haali Media Splitter was reported to be downloadable from CoreCodec; but the download site

https://customers.corecodec.com/downloads/3/CoreCodec-Download-Files

appears to be broken at the moment, returning only a "HTTP error 302: Found - The document has moved here" (same URL, everywhere on this domain).

[BetaBoy]

Ill post a new link to the installer after we launch the new customer portal (coming anytime this week). We have been working with the x-cart developers in extending its source code to be able to do things in the software delivery space that nobody else has done with it before. This has caused a longer than expected delay in the portal launch of the new one and the depreciated one being offline.

I'll sync with Haali to see if its ok to post the latest version that addresses some of the current issues.

[LigH]

NO PANIC :)

And good success going where noone has gone before. LLAP. \\//_

[BetaBoy]

Thx ;-)

[Chainmax]

Have there been any news regarding Haali's splitter, BetaBoy?

[Tornado15550]

Is Haali Media Splitter still in development? Also, when will we get a new version?

[filler56789]

Is Haali Media Splitter still in development?

Apparently, no.

Also, when will we get a new version?

The build available at haali.su/mkv is outdated. The latest version can be downloaded from many sites, except from CoreCodec itself. Therefore, ...... ;)

[Octo-puss]

I wouldn't mind a link to the latest version please.

[JEEB]

I wouldn't mind a link to the latest version please.
The newest version is, unfortunately, still 1.11.288.0 from Sept. 9th, 2011. I uploaded the installer I found off my hard drive from that date and with that version number here (http://cccp-project.net/stuff/2011-09-09_MatroskaSplitter_1.11.288.0.exe), as I can't see it being available from the support side of CoreCodec any more (which was the only place officially distributing it except for haali.su).

Also, I sent out a long e-mail to Mike on the 23rd of December about the current bugs and problems with his splitter, as well as about the possible plans for the future of it -- but I have yet to have received any kind of reply :<

There was some talk about possibly open sourcing the splitter at one point of time during late 2011 or maybe even early 2012, but it seems like that hasn't gone anywhere as he has disappeared from various places (his bouncer still seems to be connected to Freenode, but he is not on any channels and does not reply to poking with private messages).

[JEEB]

In the beginning of March I got a test build of Haali's splitter from him in a reply I got to an e-mail regarding the currently still-alive bugs in his Matroska splitter that I knew of. And after some thinking I decided to push it out a bit for testing, so I am now linking to it here as well. Now that LAV finally supports virtual timelines and segment linking in matroska, its need has gone down by a notch, but it still could be useful/interesting for some people.

Haali 1.13.97.23 test build (http://www.cccp-project.net/stuff/2013-03-04_MatroskaSplitter_1.13.97.23_test.exe)

md5 hash: c1fd1b4f59b99b4fbcd5ca7219d67bc5
splitter.ax md5 hash: c41d7d87d586021296d806cacfd52850


The only changelog I got was:
"I've collected all minor fixes that I did into a new release, you can find a test version at <url>"

This does not affect the TrueHD/MLP media sub types passed to the next filter (still uses AC3 media sub type and thus breaks decoders that believe the sub type and do not check further), as well as does not add any other font MIME types for font loading from Matroska files. Armada from the MPC-HC team did say that for example seeking in certain Matroska samples did become better, but otherwise no clear changes have been noticed.

<binary patch removed because there should be an official binary coming soon with these changes>

[clsid]

Thanks JEEB.

[hubblec4]

i have tested this new version but the Audio-HD issue is still there.

in the old version the film stutters. now you have a scratchy screen for a short time.

tested with DTS-HD MA 5.1 --> FLAC 5.1
Video = h264
with AV Splitter plays the file fine.

[cyberbeing]

JEEB, could you post Haali's official 1.13.138.14 installer when you have a chance?

[JEEB]

JEEB, could you post Haali's official 1.13.138.14 installer when you have a chance?
You don't really have to ask me for that to be honest. If I find a test build to not be completely broken, and I haven't been specifically asked to not push it around, I will post it as it is for the best interest of the public :) .

In any case, I got another reply from Haali, almost a month since the last one and a month and ten days or so since the last test build he linked to me. My gentle query about his past comments regarding open sourcing it, or at least giving out debug symbols, didn't seem to get noticed, but that isn't such a big deal. What is more important is the test build that was linked in the reply:

Haali 1.13.138.14 test build (http://www.cccp-project.net/stuff/2013-04-14_MatroskaSplitter_1.13.138.14_test.exe)

md5 hash: 922179eaa854a88681cfa278170073d7

Added changelog:
"I've added all these mediatypes and truetype font types to the splitter"

In other words, this version will work now properly with LAV Audio regarding TrueHD and MLP, as well as load fonts attached with the MIME types application/vnd.ms-opentype and application/x-font-ttf. For certain use cases this will be a rather big and nice change (even if it sure did take some time to get here in an official way) .

[hubblec4]

this new test build looks good.
i tested the same videofile again and there is no stuttering or a scratchy scene.

maybe it works perfect, i will test it with other Audio-HD-Files and post it here.

[filler56789]

Semi-OT :o

New version is out ( http://haali.su/mkv/ )

[clsid]

It is version 1.13.138.14, which was already posted here in April.

A warning for anyone that uses it, the uninstaller is a bit broken and may fail to unregister the x64 components. So you may need to do some manual cleanup in the registry afterwards. Dunno if older versions had the same bug.

[Octo-puss]

Hm, new features are nice, but only one bugfix mentioned. I am afraid... (or maybe not since I long ago switched to LAV :P)

[Djfe]

is it correct that haali.su/mkv seems to be down?

my browser only shows timeout


a bug I found:
The Haali Media Splitter crashes on ATSC Transportstreams with a Video-PID below 30
DVB forbids the usage of Video-PIDS below 30 but ATSC doesn't

sample file:
http://www.file-upload.net/download-9445381/crank-1080p_cutted.ts.html

[clsid]

Does not crash here with 1.13.138.14.
http://www.divx-digest.com/software/haali_media_splitter.html

[Djfe]

I should be more clear about what I mean by crash:
I use the TS Doctor, which uses Haali as a Splitter for it's cutting preview window

If I use LAV as a Splitter it doesn't crash, but with Haali it crashes

The developer of the TSD says that this is caused by the Haali Splitter because of the issue mentioned above and not by the TSD itself

[clsid]

Haali has been inactive for a long time, so I don't think there is much chance of a fix. Jeeb has a copy of the source code I think, so he might be of some help.

Is there anything specific that TSD does differently compared to a normal player? Because I would have expected it to crash for normal playback as well if the cause is as you describe.

[Thunderbolt8]

would be nice if jeeb could take over improving the splitter.

[Djfe]

Would also be nice if Haali and LAV could be joined/merged, because LAV is in active development and maybe nevcairiel could use some of the code of the Haali Splitter to improve his and make a better one

(at least for the Splitter part)

[clsid]

That is not going to happen.

If there is something that Haali can do that LAV can't then you should submit a feature request (or bug report). The only thing I can think of right now is the ability to switch Programs in a MPEG-TS files, which is already on the LAV Filters (long term) ToDo list. In general LAV is already way ahead of Haali in terms of functionality and stability.

[Djfe]

One thing I'm missing:
LAV is more for playback than Haali

Haali is way more precise if it comes to reading out exact timecodes/frame-types etc.
all this is needed by editor like the TSD which allows you to cut your records

at least this is what Cypheros said about it

[nevcairiel]

DirectShow is a terrible platform for cutting, its not designed for that purpose, and any tool trying to use it for that is flawed by design.

But like I mentioned before, anyone is welcome to provide patches for a feature they care about. Thats really how open source works. I'm not paid by anyone to work on anything specific, I work on what I care about, and what I want in the future of my project. And considering I don't see DirectShow even as a viable framework for editing, you can imagine how much I care about such improvements myself. Just asking for stuff isn't going to make it magically appear, unless someone wants to work on it.

[Djfe]

Of course and I really appreciate your work on open source filters/splitter

and of course directshow isn't perfect but it would cost a lot of money for the licenses to write something on your own (since Cypheros software is commercial)