Unofficial Haali Media Splitter bug tracker

[mata7]

yeah minor bug fix i try one mkv whit DTS-MA that i create wiht mkvmerge and got the same stutter problem, i guest we will have to wait 3 more month for a fix

[lmwang]

I have got one mpeg ts file, the video can't be displayed by
HaaliSplitter. With graphedit, I can see audio filter only. But the file is
played very well with vlc, coreplayer, mplayer. Please help to check whether
it's bug of haalisplitter. I have upload the file to below link:

http://depositfiles.com/files/vfy0q36hp

For kmplayer, if unregister HaaliSplitter filter in system filter manager, it's ok to play the file.

[xv]

I found two bugs in Haali Media Splitter:

-Major problems with a lot of MPEG-1-PS files (wrong duration, not seekable, won´t play at all). There is no problem with Microsoft Splitter or MPC-HD internal.

-Does not support IMA ADPCM in Mov. I yust got a Mov-file with SVQ3/IMA ADPCM, with MPC-HD internal everything works fine, with Haali Media Splitter only video is displayed (file can be downloaded here: http://www.mtmfilms.org/mtm6/2_hi.mov).

[nlnl]

New version of the splitter.
http://haali.su/mkv/
21/11/2010
* Fixed items:
o Fixed a bug in uninstaller that prevented it from properly unregistering all filters

Has anybody tested DTS HD MA bitstream playback?

[mindbomb]

DTS-HD MA doesn't work with the arcsoft dts filter with haali, so I'm guessing they still haven't fixed the bitstreaming issue, assuming they both don't work for the same reason.
Though, it appears to have no problem with DTS-HD HRA for some reason.

I don't have the hardware to explicitly test bitstreaming of DTS-HD MA though.

[SamuriHL]

What about bitstreaming a DTS-HD MA track in an MKV made with MkvMerge? That's the issue I have with Haali.

[mindbomb]

are the haali people aware of the bitstreaming issue?

[SamuriHL]

Yes. It's been reported several times.

[mata7]

What about bitstreaming a DTS-HD MA track in an MKV made with MkvMerge? That's the issue I have with Haali.

this update don't fix it, IMO another useless update

[SamuriHL]

this update don't fix it, IMO another useless update

Thanks for checking. I've personally moved on to other splitters at this point, but, I'd love it if this bug gets fixed. If not, oh well.

[mata7]

me 2 MPC+FFDShow is working beautiful, samuri just for curiosity , how do you know the problem is halli and no MkvMerge, cause mkv crate whit makemkv play fine whit halli

thanks

[SamuriHL]

Yea, I'm aware of the MakeMKV + haali thing, believe me. I asked Mosu about it and he said it was a Haali issue and that they'd need to fix it. I'm inclined to trust him. There's something about mkvmerge created DTS-HA MA tracks that Haali doesn't like.

[mata7]

oh ok thanks for you explanation, it would be nice to fiend out what is what Haali doesn't like

thanks

[SamuriHL]

So, after all that, Mosu figured out how to fix MKVMerge. Unreal. :D Anyway, he posted a new build in his MKVMerge thread and there's information posted in there on how to fix existing MKV's that are broken with Haali by just using the header editor. VERY sweet!!

[mata7]

lol thas a great new, samuri will you be so kind and explain me how to do this

"Just open the Header editor (under "File" in mmg), drag a file into it, go to Audio track > Default duration and enter 10666666 into the field. It only takes a few seconds since you don't have to remux the file"

what program should i use, and how to do it, please i will really appreciate you help

thanks in advance

[SamuriHL]

You need to use MKVMerge. MMG= MkvMerge Gui. Open that and follow those instructions and you're good to go.

[mindbomb]

so can this fix be incorporated into future versions of haali?

id rather just download a new splitter than edit all my files

[SamuriHL]

I don't believe so. And you're just editing the header, so it's very fast.

[mata7]

great everyting is working now, thanks samuri

[robpdotcom]

Hey guys,

Changing the value in the header editor has worked for me in all cases, but from this post <CLICK> (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1459993#post1459993) it seems that Mosu is saying you are better off remuxing with the version of mkvmerge he posted (and I'd trust Mosu instead of me :p).

[mata7]

thanks rob, i at ready did the Default duration and enter 10666666 trick to my 400+ mkv's and i really don't want to remux all thus 20gb+ mkv's, so far everything is working fine and if something go wrong at least i can blame you :) :D

[robpdotcom]

i at ready did the Default duration and enter 10666666 trick to my 400+ mkv's

Now the next step is to go watch all 400 movies again, and report your findings to us. Please give a full detailed report of each movie.:D

[Isochroma]

In version 2010-11-21 [1.10.348.15] (and many before) the splitter leaves mkfxxx.tmp files in the system temp folder {C:\Documents and Settings\Username\Local Settings\Temp} when it loads MKV files with attached fonts. The xxx seems to be a random hex code. Here's a sample list of the files newly created when opening one subtitled MKV:

mkf31A.tmp
mkf31B.tmp
mkf31C.tmp
mkf31D.tmp
mkf319.tmp

The splitter creates these files and then fails to remove them when the graph is closed or application quits. The files build up ad infinitum. Sometimes some of the files are removed but one or more is always left behind.

A very old previous version of the splitter never left any font cache tempfiles. I can't remember which one but do remember upgrading to a newer HMS and finding them for the first time.

These files only appear when the splitter is playing MKV files with fonts attached - that is, files having one or more subtitle tracks that use attached font(s).

Using Media Player Classic 6.4.9.1 (revision 72) on XPSP2. CoreAVC for decoding AVC, ffdshow for everything else.

Proposed solution: the splitter ought to delete all the files it made when the graph is closed or the application quits. This is simply a basic principle of good programming.

[fastplayer]

Changelog:

* Fixed unrecognized video track in some transport streams
* Added more H.264 aspect ratio options
* Fixed occasional excessive disk I/O when paused
Download:
http://haali.su/mkv/MatroskaSplitter.exe

[leeperry]

Hi, I've got a whole bunch of 5.1 AC3 files that are recognized as such when using any other MKV splitter(KMP/PotPlayer/LAVSplitter), but HMS seems to recognize them as stereo...and that fubars my automatic profiles in ffdshow audio(ffdshow loads the stereo profile :().

Sample1.mkv (http://www.mediafire.com/?1tf98i7su5069sn) http://thumbnails29.imagebam.com/12249/a0e00b122482297.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/a0e00b122482297)

Sample2.mkv (http://www.mediafire.com/?n2fso8f0h8pcl0d) http://thumbnails38.imagebam.com/12249/1b7eaa122482301.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/1b7eaa122482301)

Hope you can look into it, :thanks: in advance!

[Snowknight26]

Haali Media Splitter recognizes the main audio track (TrueHD) as E-AC3 one second, then AC3 the next, then E-AC3, etc.

http://stfcc.org/misc/haali.m2ts

[CruNcher]

In version 2010-11-21 [1.10.348.15] (and many before) the splitter leaves mkfxxx.tmp files in the system temp folder {C:\Documents and Settings\Username\Local Settings\Temp} when it loads MKV files with attached fonts. The xxx seems to be a random hex code. Here's a sample list of the files newly created when opening one subtitled MKV:

mkf31A.tmp
mkf31B.tmp
mkf31C.tmp
mkf31D.tmp
mkf319.tmp

The splitter creates these files and then fails to remove them when the graph is closed or application quits. The files build up ad infinitum. Sometimes some of the files are removed but one or more is always left behind.

A very old previous version of the splitter never left any font cache tempfiles. I can't remember which one but do remember upgrading to a newer HMS and finding them for the first time.

These files only appear when the splitter is playing MKV files with fonts attached - that is, files having one or more subtitle tracks that use attached font(s).

Using Media Player Classic 6.4.9.1 (revision 72) on XPSP2. CoreAVC for decoding AVC, ffdshow for everything else.

Proposed solution: the splitter ought to delete all the files it made when the graph is closed or the application quits. This is simply a basic principle of good programming.

Don't forget Antivirus Pro Active scanner or other Application that permanently watch IO actions they could interfere here and not allow the deletion of files being scanned or freezed @ scanning (handles stuck), happened for me already with betas of Eset Nod issues where fixed fast though Adobe Flash Player, Internet Download Manager everything that creates somekind of physical temp file where the scanner gets problems with (most scanners also have exclusion lists if such problems occur though that's only a workaround, though for IO time critical stuff it can be the only solution) can result in strange behavior like not being able to save the final version of the file (For Adobe Flash Player it can result even in Frame drops especially on older systems if the Video is being scanned while Progressively downloaded) or as you mentioned leftovers of temporary files. So always make sure you turn of any Pro Active Security solution and any applications that could interfere with the file system on access before testing such issues to be sure the issue isn't 3rd party related.

These on access scanning bugs are very common especially for applications that scanning metadata out of video files best example i guess was Microsofts big shmedia.dll fail that caused handle issues in the past (.AVI files in the beginning not being able to be deletable though it can happen for any format that has shell extension support), when there is a demux issue it also locks the handle :)
Even Googles Android OS Media Management had to fight with these issues in the beginning, especially fuzzy logiced streams are problematic for most scanner (and can be even a major security issue) can cause it to crash it needs to be very robust to avoid this the same Windows based applications can die with strange defective streams if they not prepared for such cases :)

[Isochroma]

I have no such sofware.

It is high time Haali act like a responsible programmer and fix the bugs in his code.

[betaking]

Last Haali Media Splitter doesn't support EAC-3 in MP4!

[[ReX]]

To watch some old videos from Louis C.K.'s website, I have to block "Haali Media Splitter (AR)" for SVQ3 video (33515653-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71) on MPC-HC, or else it'll only load the first frame of the video for some reason. Then it loads just fine with MPC-HC's MP4 splitter.

Download (http://louisck.com/conanbandj.mov)
MediaInfo output (http://pastebin.com/emZ0RUN7)

[kirakami]

Haali Media Splitter 1.11.288.0 (16.09.2011)
http://www.free-codecs.com/haali_matroska_splitter_download.htm

Bug Found:
MPC-HC when Set Playback Output to "Haali Renderer" from MPC-HC options
only Audio Plays Video screen goes black. happens with both 8/10 bit videos :( switch back to Overlay Mixer everything works :)
using ffdshow r4019

Request:
Please Modify Decoder Boost Option
Instead of Yes/No (annoying to able to choose only high(yes) it causes heavy load.)
please add "Low, Below Normal, Normal, Above Normal, High, Real-time"
Above Normal works perfect with my PC, High causes Load.

[Octo-puss]

I was surprised to see there is newer version available. The site is down for who knows how long, but then I found http://corecodec.com/products/coreavc/changelog. Surprisingly, changes to Haali splitter are mentioned there and seem to be even updated quite often. Hopefully someone else will find it useful.

[Midzuki]

I was surprised to see there is newer version available. The site is down for who knows how long, but then I found http://corecodec.com/products/coreavc/changelog. Surprisingly, changes to Haali splitter are mentioned there and seem to be even updated quite often. Hopefully someone else will find it useful.

That's true, both VideoHelp and haali.su/mkv report "March 03, 2011" as the date of the "latest" release.

Just wondering, HMS should have already and officially become payware --- or not ? :confused:

[Thunderbolt8]

it already is when being part of coreavc and not updating his page any more.

[sneaker_ger]

A more recent version is available for free from the corecodec site:
https://customers.corecodec.com/downloads/3/CoreCodec-Download-Files

[Octo-puss]

A more recent version is available for free from the corecodec site:
https://customers.corecodec.com/downloads/3/CoreCodec-Download-Files
See top of this page.

[sneaker_ger]

I was under the impression that Midzuki didn't see newer revisions still being available for free, just not on haali.su. Maybe I misunderstood.

[Thunderbolt8]

nice that its still free. at haali.su or at the corecodec site doesnt really matter.

[73ChargerFan]

Haali Media Splitter 1.11.288.0 (16.09.2011)

Bug Found:
MPC-HC when Set Playback Output to "Haali Renderer" from MPC-HC options only Audio Plays Video screen goes black. happens with both 8/10 bit videos

I get the same behavior with an earlier version of Haali, don't remember which but I haven't updated it in ages. More likely it is a recently introduced bug in MPC-HC; try an earlier version.

[06_taro]

The latest mmg recognizes ttf font as "application/x-font-ttf" as default MIME type.
Haali fails to load this type of embedded font, it only load "application/x-truetype-font" fonts, which is detected as default in old versions of mmg.

Other splitter like LAV/AV/Gabest can load "application/x-font-ttf" fonts.

[[ReX]]

And while we're at it, it should also support "application/vnd.ms-opentype", the default MIME type for OTF fonts in mkvtoolnix 5.1.0.

[Isochroma]

Reminds me that the HMS still leaves mkfxxx.tmp files when it splits a MKV with embedded subtitles and font file(s). The files are NOT cleaned up on player exit. Previous versions of the HMS did clean up the files.

[06_taro]

I have heard that HMS uses AddFontResource to install fonts temporarily, which doesn't automatically release fonts if not exit normally. Using AddFontResourceEx instead ( or using AddFontMemResourceEx like LAV ) will automatically release fonts resources even when the process is closed accidentally.

[Chainmax]

I was surprised to find that Haali's site is down. After sifting through this thread, I am gathering that Haali went on to become a part of the CoreCodec team, and his splitte is now integrated in it. The latest version is v1.11.288.0 from Sept 16, 2011 and obtainable at Codecs.com. Would that be about right?

Now, I have two questions related to this: is the version available at Codecs.com 32bit or 64bit? At this point, would switching to Gabest's splitter be a good idea?

[[ReX]]

is the version available at Codecs.com 32bit or 64bit?

The installer includes both x64 and x86 binaries.

At this point, would switching to Gabest's splitter be a good idea?

Not a chance.
If you want a viable alternative, go with LAV Splitter.

[BetaBoy]

We are addressing some of the bugs listed here for the next CoreAVC 3.1 release. I'll also sync with Haali on how best to handle new release availability.

BTW... avoid the spam site listed above for any downloads, period.

[Octo-puss]

We are addressing some of the bugs listed here for the next CoreAVC 3.1 release. I'll also sync with Haali on how best to handle new release availability.

BTW... avoid the spam site listed above for any downloads, period.
What do you mean by spam site? I don't see any anywhere on this page.

[Isochroma]

Betaboy: Please fix the HMS code so that it doesn't produce endlessly growing piles of 'temporary' files in the system temp folder when it splits MKVs with attached font files. That kind of untemporary temporary file syndrome is characteristic of Microsoftware.

[Midzuki]

What do you mean by spam site? I don't see any anywhere on this page.

Probably Betaboy was talking about this:

...
The latest version is v1.11.288.0 from Sept 16, 2011 and obtainable at Codecs.com.
...

And two more feature requests :)

1) remove the "power hunger" :mad: from the splitter --- no need for blocking or screwing the "non-Haali" filters anymore ;

2) place the Matroska&MP4 muxer outside of the file splitter.ax, BTW the video renderer already is :cool:

[BetaBoy]

Betaboy: Please fix the HMS code so that it doesn't produce endlessly growing piles of 'temporary' files in the system temp folder when it splits MKVs with attached font files. That kind of untemporary temporary file syndrome is characteristic of Microsoftware.

I'll try and get this addressed with the next release.