Unofficial Haali Media Splitter bug tracker

[clsid]

In this topic I would like to document known bugs in Haali Media Splitter.

I encourage everyone to post detailed bug reports here in this topic. Please include a sample file whenever possible.

If you want to cut a sample from a large file, then use DGSplit:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143963

Good sites for uploading sample files are:
http://www.mediafire.com

Download:
Version 1.11.96.14 (2011-03-03) (http://haali.su/mkv/)

Bugs in all recent versions:

MKV's with DTS-HD MA created by mkvmerge (mkvtoolnix) are not bitstreamed correctly by ffdshow (stuttering). Sample (http://www.mediafire.com/?tmufzougmjt).
AC3 inside MP4 container gives error "MP4: could not find dac3 box" with files created by QuickTime. Sample (http://www.mediafire.com/?2gydwglwwwn).
Files with a large number of tracks (>32 ?) won't load.
Configuration can't be accessed through the 64-bit splitter (rundll32.exe splitter.x64.ax,Configure).
The splitter does not link matroska files if opened using AviSynth or Direct264. See this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154779).
(MPEG-TS) DTS-HD audio is not recognized. Sample (http://rapidshare.com/files/371604348/Test.m2ts.html) (has 5 audio tracks! one DTS-HD, two DTS, two AC3).
TrueHD detect issue: post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1488155#post1488155)
AC3 detect issue: post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1482783#post1482783)


Solution for the DTS-HD problem:
You can fix your file by remuxing it with MkvToolnix (http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/win32/pre/mkvtoolnix-unicode-4.4.0-build20101115-315-setup.exe) (version 4.4.0 build 20101115 or newer is required). This will add the "Default duration" element to the Matroska header for the audio track.

[Atak_Snajpera]

vc-1 in m2ts container does not work since 19/12/2009 version.

[Midzuki]

clsid wrote:

Version 1.9.42.1 (11/01/2009) (no download link yet)

Try this:

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Haali_Media_Splitter/old-versions#download

design flaw: no support for uncompressed audio in transport streams;

[Atak_Snajpera]

design flaw: no support for uncompressed audio in transport streams;
really ?

19/12/2009

* New Features:
o Added a 64-bit version
o A shell extension was removed from the splitter. This will be available seprately at a later date.
o Added truehd and mlp support for Matroska files and transpor streams
* Fixed items:
o Fixed lpcm in transport streams support

[Midzuki]

I meant the version "11/01/09".

And since I have read really-bad things about the very-latest releases, I didn't even give a try to them.

[MarkCoolio]

Like fastplayer wrote:

Originally Posted by fastplayer
Bug report for HMS 1.9.355.21:

- The installer registers all splitters regardless of what's been chosen during setup.
- It associates MKV and MKA files with WMP even when told not to.
- When uninstalling HMS it just deletes the files instead of unregistering them before.
- Not a bug per se but it would still be nice to make the renderer an optional component.

This has been tested on a clean install of XP SP3.

Well, bug #2 has been fixed in version 1.10.120.15. That's progress, I guess...

[shon3i]

I have some beta on my system 1.9.63.13 dated to 2009-02-01, working like charm

[TFM_TheMask]

I like that TrueHD is supported now but why is DTS-HD MA disabled with the latest 1.10.120.15 version? DTS-HD MA worked in the old version 1.9.42.1 but TrueHD not.:mad:

[clsid]

I like that TrueHD is supported now but why is DTS-HD MA disabled with the latest 1.10.120.15 version? DTS-HD MA worked in the old version 1.9.42.1 but TrueHD not.:mad:Which container? MKV or MPEG-TS? Do you have a sample file? That could be helpful for Haali.

[TFM_TheMask]

Which container? MKV or MPEG-TS? Do you have a sample file? That could be helpful for Haali.

M2TS, here is a sample (http://rapidshare.com/files/371604348/Test.m2ts.html).

[Virtual_ManPL]

Haali splitter (1.10.120.15) have problems with this file (on Gabest splitters works fine)...

General
Complete name : C:\Documents and Settings\Virtual_ManPL\Pulpit\[Kara no Kyoukai - The Garden of Sinners - ][DVDRip][DVDCM1].mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : QuickTime
Codec ID : qt
File size : 29.1 MiB
Duration : 2mn 49s
Overall bit rate : 1 438 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2009-01-25 00:49:57
Tagged date : UTC 2009-01-25 01:19:03
Writing library : Apple QuickTime 7.6.0
com.apple.quicktime.player.movie : (Binary)

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 2mn 49s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 1 210 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 1 200 Kbps
Width : 864 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Minimum frame rate : 23.810 fps
Maximum frame rate : 24.390 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.122
Stream size : 24.5 MiB (84%)
Title : Ć»ąűĘÓƵýĚĺ´¦ŔíłĚĐň / Ć»ąűĚćÉíĘýľÝ´¦ŔíĆ÷
Writing library : x264 core 65 r1057M 5f8a149
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=6 / psy_rd=0.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=4 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=1200 / ratetol=4.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=0
Language : 11
Encoded date : UTC 2009-01-25 00:49:24
Tagged date : UTC 2009-01-25 01:19:02

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : ac-3
Duration : 2mn 49s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 224 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Stream size : 4.54 MiB (16%)
Title : Ć»ąűÉůƵýĚĺ´¦ŔíłĚĐň / Ć»ąűĚćÉíĘýľÝ´¦ŔíĆ÷
Language : 11
Encoded date : UTC 2009-01-25 00:49:24
Tagged date : UTC 2009-01-25 01:19:03

file - DOWNLOAD (http://www.mediafire.com/?2gydwglwwwn)



I got this error in MPC-HC
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9471/haali.png

[lych_necross]

@Virtual_ManPL
I'll bet this is the problem:

Format profile : QuickTime
Codec ID : qt
....
Writing library : Apple QuickTime 7.6.0
com.apple.quicktime.player.movie : (Binary)

If you want to use Haali's splitter, remux the file with mp4box and it should work fine (otherwise use mpc's splitter).

[Virtual_ManPL]

Yep, I know, but if Gabest splitter can, so Haali should too :p

[Mercury_22]

In my opinion the bug is that the best mkv splitter out there it's embedded with other splitter when many people are looking just for a better (than Gabest's) / best mkv splitter ! especially now with windows 7.
So since most of the bugs are related to the other embedded splitters and to the installer I think it will better for everyone to release the mkv splitter separately and fix the Explorer integration (thumbnail feature) for mkv files (not working with the current version and, at least, Windows 7 64-bit)

Just a thought !

[tetsuo55]

I'm all for healty competition in the form of one upstream splitter for each format, and an infinite number of forks from that are for specific niche's.

I hope that Haali will open the source of the splitter, or at least work on mpc-hc's splitters instead so we can have the best of both worlds in a single splitter.

[clsid]

So since most of the bugs are related to the other embedded splitters and to the installer I think it will better for everyone to release the mkv splitter separately and fix the Explorer integration (thumbnail feature) for mkv files (not working with the current version and, at least, Windows 7 64-bit)
It already is possible to use only part of the Haali Media Splitter functionality. With for example the K-Lite Codec Pack you can select which splitter gets used for each container. You can even change your splitter preferences at any time post-installation.

Thumbnails work fine on Windows 7 without Haali's shell extension. There are just two limitations: 1) ffdshow must be set as the preferred decoder for H.264, and 2) thumbnails will always show the first frame of the video.

[Atak_Snajpera]

thumbnails will always show the first frame of the video.
in 90% of cases = black frame :)

[clsid]

It is possible to use Haali's shell extension with recent versions of the splitter. Just install the old version and manually replace the files with the ones from the latest installer. You can extract them with 7-zip. But keep in mind that it was removed for a reason. It can cause instability.

[lych_necross]

That seems like a lot of work just to get working thumbnails. I would be happy with just a fully functioning splitter.

[Thunderbolt8]

It is possible to use Haali's shell extension with recent versions of the splitter. Just install the old version and manually replace the files with the ones from the latest installer. You can extract them with 7-zip. But keep in mind that it was removed for a reason. It can cause instability.how can I replace the mkunicode.dll? even when starting windows in safe mode it says its being used by another process and therefore cannot be replaced.

[clsid]

Remove it with Unlocker tool. Then add the new file.

Or if you would disable the thumbnailing in Haali options then the file will should not be in use anymore after a reboot. That would allow you to replace it as well.

Or reboot and just don't visit any folder with videos inside.

[Keiyakusha]

Hi. I'm not sure if this is issue with splitter or maybe this have something to do with divx tech preview but I decided to post here first.
I'm using latest haali splitter on win7 32bit. When I have some linked mkv files, they work as they should but after accessing them, they become locked by explorer.exe and can't be deleted or modified so I need to use unlocker on them. Can anyone confirm?

[sneaker_ger]

I can't reproduce it here on Windows XP. (v. 1.10.120.15)

[jasonwc]

I'm not sure if this has already been reported but Haali will not load a MKV with more than a specified number of tracks. I have a video with 43 tracks (40 subs) and it won't load. MPC-HC's splitter works, however.

Here's a sample: http://www.mediafire.com/?jowimwy4rkg

[clsid]

The max that Haali supports is 32 if I remember correctly.

[rica]

I'm not sure if this has already been reported but Haali will not load a MKV with more than a specified number of tracks. I have a video with 43 tracks (40 subs) and it won't load. MPC-HC's splitter works, however.

Here's a sample: http://www.mediafire.com/?jowimwy4rkg

Who the hell would expect 43 tracs into an mkv container? :)

[Midzuki]

Who the hell would expect 43 tracs into an mkv container? :)

A "spec-maker", I presume. :D

[rica]

BTW i believe i should repeat this comparison also on this thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1382497#post1382497

Here are the mkv samples:

DTSHD-MA:
http://www.mediafire.com/?tmufzougmjt

THD:
http://www.mediafire.com/?5rjhgj1wyzk

(includes only thd not ac3 core)

[Atak_Snajpera]

new haali fixes vc-1 in transport stream
http://haali.su/mkv/

[rica]

Thx atak.

EDIT: sorry for the inconveience; i've found i made i a mistake.

I'll try again and report back.

[TFM_TheMask]

new haali fixes vc-1 in transport stream
http://haali.su/mkv/

Unfortunately still can't detect DTS-Master HD audio in m2ts in the new version.:(

[73ChargerFan]

Cool, Google got Haali to release an update today, to support WebM. :D

[Thunderbolt8]

It is possible to use Haali's shell extension with recent versions of the splitter. Just install the old version and manually replace the files with the ones from the latest installer. You can extract them with 7-zip. But keep in mind that it was removed for a reason. It can cause instability.I have trouble trying to do this with the new version. apparently I either get image corruption or the shell extension just won't work.

[sneaker_ger]

The splitter seems to not link matroska files if opened using AviSynth or Direct264. (see this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154779).)

[andybkma]

So these two issues are still present in Version 1.10.175.0 (19/05/2010)? If so, I still can't use as I don't want Haali to be my avi splitter...

(Installer) The installer enables all splitters regardless of what's been chosen during setup.
(Installer) The uninstaller deletes the files without unregistering them first.

[Tima]

I'm unsure if bugs in Haali Renderer should also be posted here, but just in case:

(Haali Renderer) Choppy playback of video encoded with Lagarith (at least in YV12 mode).

[rica]

So these two issues are still present in Version 1.10.175.0 (19/05/2010)? If so, I still can't use as I don't want Haali to be my avi splitter...

(Installer) The installer enables all splitters regardless of what's been chosen during setup.


I don't think this bug was present in previous version.
When i disabled some options while installing, i could easily switch to Haali or Gabest in MPC-HC.
I think i should go back to previous version since i haven't seen any progress in the latest Haali.
Or maybe i'm wrong.

[Snowknight26]

Anyone notice the issue where HMS causes corruption while splitting M2TS files? I've seen it happen twice now on totally different systems while encoding with x264. I can definitely rule out x264 because the corruption is not aligned to macroblocks. The only thing the two systems have in common is that both were updated to the latest Haali Media Splitter.

Examples screenshots after encoding: http://stfcc.org/pics/i/9db2a8e99c3244f5f75fcf570ce345f1.png & http://stfcc.org/pics/i/be6efb42e5988fbe88562222912fd10e.png
Example encode: http://stfcc.org/misc/x264.r1602.mkv (disregard filename)

I tried to narrow it down with Dark Shikari but the only thing that we could establish is that it wasn't x264, though it only seemed to happen with certain x264 settings. Time to roll back to the only good version.. again.

[alleyezonme]

I have winxp 64bit edition, and Im having real trouble getting the shell extension in windows explorer part to work correctly, i have tried all of the following versions: 1.9.42.1, 1.9.63.13, and even the latest version, is shell extension completely gone on these versions?

1.9.42.1 worked fine with shell extension in winxp 32 bit edition, but on the 64bit edition it just doesnt seem to work, is there any manual way or workaround to get it working properly?

[Atak_Snajpera]

Haali's installer forgets to add this to registry for .webm. Without that you won't be able to open .webm via DirectShowSource()


[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\Media Type\Extensions\.webm]
"Source Filter"="{55DA30FC-F16B-49FC-BAA5-AE59FC65F82D}"


[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions\.webm]
"Source Filter"="{55DA30FC-F16B-49FC-BAA5-AE59FC65F82D}"

[SamuriHL]

Ok, so, I'll post my bug here. MKV's with DTS-HD MA created by mkvmerge (mkvtoolnix) are not bitstreamed correctly by ffdshow if Haali is used. They work fine if the MPC splitter is used. Mosu, the author of mkvmerge, feels this is a Haali bug. I should be able to provide a sample if necessary, but, any file with a DTS-HD MA audio track that's been run through mkvmerge will repro this problem. More info can be seen in the ffdshow hd audio thread here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=151151

The info related to this problem is on the last few pages. Let me know if more info is needed and if there's anything I can do. Thanks!

[rica]

Ok, so, I'll post my bug here. MKV's with DTS-HD MA created by mkvmerge (mkvtoolnix) are not bitstreamed correctly by ffdshow if Haali is used. They work fine if the MPC splitter is used. Mosu, the author of mkvmerge, feels this is a Haali bug. I should be able to provide a sample if necessary, but, any file with a DTS-HD MA audio track that's been run through mkvmerge will repro this problem. More info can be seen in the ffdshow hd audio thread here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=151151

The info related to this problem is on the last few pages. Let me know if more info is needed and if there's anything I can do. Thanks!

Hi samuri, mosu is right; nothing to do with Haali for the time being.
mkv files created by MkvMergeGui are never problematic with MPC-Gabest or Solveig Splitters.
And dtshd-ma is horrible with haali.

mkv with Gabest:

LPCM:
LPCM works with ReClock directly without an additional decoder.

THD:
It can bitstream over ffdshow.

DTSHD:
It can bitstream over ffdshow.


mkv with Haali:

LPCM:
Haali will be directly linked to ReClock and stream the audio. It doesn't need any additional LPCM decoder.

THD:
Gives blue light and no problem in bitsreaming THD inside mkv.

DTSHD:
Gives blue light but it's problematic: lots of drop-outs in video and audio.

[SamuriHL]

Thanks, Rica. Hopefully this can get fixed. Then MKV playback for me will be flawless.

[MeridiusUK]

hi all i think i have found a bug in the haali splitter

link here

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1413130#post1413130

its seems haali ignores audio flags as if you have a movie with the first 2 audio tracks as DTS and a third track as AC3 it picks the 3rd track the AC3 version even if the flag in the mkv file has set the first audio DTS as the default track.

i post this as my first tracks are dts and 3rd tracks are ac3 but teh third track is french ac3 and the first audio track is english DTS.

if i play the same movie in vlc player the player picks the right default track and plays the english version but haali does not it seems to play the ac3 track over the default 1st track.

is this a bug ?

[MeridiusUK]

any info on a fix on my last post

[Virtual_ManPL]

This file isn't properly recognized (no A/V) in Haali splitter (at least in latest version 1.10.175.0)
http://www.mediafire.com/?c5pab9t3pfqk6ch

works fine in Gabest and Windows splitter

General
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 1.34 MiB
Duration : 1s 919ms
Overall bit rate : 5 873 Kbps
Mastered date : SUN AUG 01 18:24:06 2010
Writing application : CanonMVI06

Video
ID : 0
Format : M-JPEG
Codec ID : MJPG
Duration : 1s 919ms
Bit rate : 5 768 Kbps
Width : 320 pixels
Height : 240 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 59.940 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.253
Stream size : 1.32 MiB (98%)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : PCM
Format settings, Sign : Unsigned
Codec ID : 1
Codec ID/Hint : Microsoft
Duration : 1s 917ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 88.2 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Sampling rate : 11.024 KHz
Bit depth : 8 bits
Stream size : 20.6 KiB (1%)
Interleave, duration : 959 ms (57.50 video frames)
Interleave, preload duration : 1000 ms

[mata7]

so how long take haali to fix bugs?

[Thunderbolt8]

i'd say if he felt like doing it not long.

[Jeff Flowerday]

There's a new release of the splitter up on his site.

[SamuriHL]

14/08/2010
Fixed items:
Fixed aspect ratio processing in certain Matroska files, which caused errors on open