HD-DVD / EVO muxer (H264+AC3)

[setarip_old]

using the parameters of SA-HDDVDAlthough I'm sure it's referred to elsewhere, please be good enough to post these parameters back here - and the step by step procedures you used...

Congratulations!

[Undead Sega]

thansk very much!

only one problem, i do not know if i have to burn it on the HDDVD option of just an ordinary DVD option with the UDF 2.5 enabled?

[setarip_old]

Again, although I'm sure it's referred to elsewhere, please be good enough to post these parameters back here - and the step by step procedures you used...

Make your life simple and use (freeware) "IMGBurn" set to UDF 2.50 - no format choices necessary, it will burn your folders and files to a DVD9, if there's sufficient space...

[Undead Sega]

Indeed i will! :D

however, upon solving my problem as formentioned in my previous posts, a new one has arrived, itis simply as, when i muxed it together, and burned it as an image file to play as a disc on the computer, i foudn that a good few minutes where missing from the end to my suprise.

i demuxed the last HDDVD file of the working output folder, and found the same thing, that a few minsutes where missing. i checked the encoded .264 file and found it is complete, both video and audio.

this is slightly worrying me, could it be because of the 4172724 value which is the total number of 2048 byte packets to write on a DVD9?

[setarip_old]

Indeed i will!Well?

[Undead Sega]

It means i will, however i must overcome this problem i have, and that ive mentioned:

when i muxed it together, and burned it as an image file to play as a disc on the computer, i foudn that a good few minutes where missing from the end to my suprise.

i demuxed the last HDDVD file of the working output folder, and found the same thing, that a few minsutes where missing. i checked the encoded .264 file and found it is complete, both video and audio.

this is slightly worrying me, could it be because of the 4172724 value which is the total number of 2048 byte packets to write on a DVD9?

any idea may i ask?

[setarip_old]

any idea may i ask?Not presently...

[Undead Sega]

ahhh man, everything was goign well, its just this little hiccup! :( i still cannot see what is the problem.

i think it may have to do with the muxing process, maybe it cant handle a long duration time of the film? it seems to be limited to 2h27mins? Also, when using HDDVDMux to mux it, everyhing goes fine, however when it reaches 26.75%, it stays there but it keeps running, im not sure for how long but when i came back to my PC it seems to have done the job.

i dont see what could be the problem besides when it gets muxed, a small problem proably, or maybe its soemthing im doing wrong?

[setarip_old]

Have asked you twice and you've avoided answering, it seems like you're unwilling to share information, so likewise, I guess I'll leave you to your own devices...

[Undead Sega]

oh no no its not like that, i am very much wanting to share the thing, but only if I can get this to work, then i can give fullproof information that no one will be upset about :D

ive messaged the OP on my problem and i am yet to hear back. its just if i am to do a step by step on my procedures, i love to take time on it (partially because my computer isnt that stable and will soemtimes crash IE), and dont want to miss details :D

[setarip_old]

i am very much wanting to share the thing, but only if I can get this to workThen you are eliminating the possibility of anyone (OTHER THAN YOU) helping to discover the complete solution.

Bye...

[gregralph]

I have read every one of these post. I hate it when it just dead ends like this. I do find this interesting, because I too wish to burn HD DVD's and have been giving it a go for quite awhile with no good information to post.

[laserfan]

If your heart is set on authoring HD DVDs then maybe you want to buy Ulead MovieFactory 6 Plus with the HD plug-in. It has its own issues, and AFAIK won't be updated again either, but at least it works.

[Undead Sega]

i dont wish for it to be a dead end itself, and i believe it does work, but i only do have one problem, and that is the authored film that i have made is missing probably a few minutes at the end, and thats the only thing i want to solve before giving a full test drive (on a Xbox 360 HD DVD drive, or send the copy to someone with a standalone HD DVD player).

i suppose once i get that out of the way, i can fully back up this software as being the one :D and probably small interst will be gained again, in addition, it could be updated again.

[gregralph]

That is the problem there seems to be not much interest in HD DVD anymore. The ball got dropped too soon. I am still following this post with great interest. So, I guess I am one fan boy.

[Undead Sega]

Not only am i a fanboy, but i personally wholeheartedly believe it was the better format, and i was initially shocked that it lost the format war, because i thought despite the sale, it was the clear winner, also to speak on terms of royalties and producing expenses.

anyways, i would like to mention that i have done another HD DVD test, by encoding a shorter film, however once again like my previous authoring it was missing abit at the end, but not so much as before, this is probably due because of the different lengths of the films, so i am probably assuming if one film is this length u would be missnig this much adn etc.

i just burned an image through Nero and insert into a virtualdrive, and automatically PowerDVD opens up to play it. more or less, it plays its perfectly in terms on how it was authored. Now what i am ought to do now is purchase myself a DVD-R DL and burn the film onto the disc, i will pass this disc on to a friend who has a HDTV with a Xbox 360 with the HD DVD drive add-on, from there, i can tell wheather its all gone well.

Inspecting quality wise, although it may be a re-encode, the loss of quality isnt so dramatic as one thinks (from a DVD-9 encode to a DVD-9 re-encode) as you would get from a MPEG-2 encode, also it was done i 2 passes. More or less it merely looks like the quality was retained as much as possible, and with someone with a sharp eye upon close inspection is only able to tell the difference.

for now, i can say that HDDVDMux is doing a fine job, despite other things that can improve it, my only major concern is the ending cut-off which quite frankly can annoy alot, for example, usually you would get a small segment of film right after the credits, in this scenario, one would be dissapointed which one would not be able to see in this case.

[Undead Sega]

anyone at all?

setarip_old, i have finally shared my information, has it gave u any idea so far?

[Undead Sega]

bump!

anyone?

[setarip_old]

Please post here, in one post starting from the very beginning, ALL of your step by step procedures used, including software and parameters used for each step - ripping, converting, and burning...

[Undead Sega]

Heeey, don’t worry I have gotten your reply a while back ago, its just I have been typing this up in MS Word in case I wouldn’t loose such crucial typing in the process, and also due finishing up college which since just yesterday I am now a complete free man (I have mentioned this a few times in other forums that I make posts in).

Anyways, as I said, this is from MS Word, where I am typing the step by step instructions of what I’ve did, which nearly succeeded but the only thing that holds me back is the problem I have mentioned a few times on this thread itself Also this procedure is more or less how I work so probably don’t have to follow exactly everything but you can if u like, its just my method, especially when it comes to the calculations. Anyways once again, here we go:

Required software/applications (in no particular order):
- hddvdmux
- Avisynth
- MeGUI
- BeHappy (alternative or what tickles you)
- DGAVCIndex
- Nero (latest version is principle).
- Software you personally use to rip your HD-DVDs and Blu-Rays and into one file.
- A shitload of codecs.

Step 1: You can use any footage that you like, from almost any ‘legit and decent’ source, for the purpose of this and due to its nature I am going to say either acquire a movie from a HD DVD or a Blu Ray disc.

Step 2: I have not done this myself personally, but through the guides, tutorials and explanations from this website, rip or backup your HD DVD or Blu Ray by whatever means into one file. If this can be the case, I would recommend ripping them into their RAW streams, so 1 – Video, (X) – Audio files. If you are able to do this then that is great as it will help relate to the next step.

Step 3: Before anything with the video, you must consider the audio which is very important, because the standard bitrate for HD DVD audio is 448 kbps and the audio format that hddvdmux will accept is AC3. With this in mind, you can either use BeHappy or MeGUI to transcode your resulting audio. Take your intended audio stream, and open it in either of the two mentioned applications.

Step 4: When you have opened your audio stream in either of the applications, the settings towards this is pretty simple and can be done just through simple explanation. All you have to do is set the output to encode in AC3, and from there you can configure the codec settings by making sure you have the all the channels kept the same and etc. only have the bitrate set to 448 kbps. Start or Encode. After this, you shall have the resulting audio file which you will use when it comes to muxing them together. Also what is important is to note down what is the file size, you can simply know by either highlighting the file itself or just have your cursor floating on top of it, take note of what file size it is.

Step 5: Again With your RAW files, take your video stream and open it in DGAVCIndex, those who know how to use it will know what setting parameters to check in, those who don’t, please do read and ask about on how to use it correctly.

Step 6: Once added and opened in DGAVCIndex and applied the correct settings, SAVE the project and it will create a project file (.dga), preferably in the same folder as the rip.

Step 7: Once you have done that, you will need to make an Avisynth script loading the project file up so it can work when wanting to open it up in some editors. Now this can be quite frustrating for first timers, because you will need this and that to make the script itself work. Those who already have the required stuff, make the following script such as:

LoadPlugin("C:\X\DGAVCDecode.dll")
AVCSource("C:\X\X.dga")

Step 8: Once you have your script made, make sure you test it out first, like try importing it in VirtualDub, and see if it opens up like any other video that it can accept. When you know it works, you will now need to open up MeGUI, with all the latest updates installed. Once opened (and installed if necessary), import your Avisynth script and you will get a video preview window that will open (this is another way to make sure your script is correct), which you then may close.

Step 9: Now this is the tricky part because you are going to be encoding using x264, which is a great codec for making professional MPEG-4 Part 10/AVC/ H.264 videos. Anyways, this part and onwards is what I personally do to achieve the highest quality I can put onto a disc of whatever size, so I am not sure if I am keeping or going out of standard. When u already have loaded your Avisynth script, you should have a determined video output, quickly go to the setting called ‘File format’ and click on the drop down choices and you should see ‘RAWAVC’, click that and make sure it is selected, this is also very important what you did now, because you are to encode into a RAW video file, which is to be accepted through hddvdmux, only raws.

Step 10: Once you’ve got that potential hiccup out of the way, another might come around if you don’t do this next step, its very simple because of the greatness of the people who has worked on MEGUI and x264. Easily look for ‘Encoder Settings’ and click on drop down options, there you will find a bunch of choices (which are your codec’s presets), scroll down until you will find ‘x264: Standalone – HD-DVD, select this.

NOTE: Now this solely depends on what DVD disc you’re going to put it on, either a DVD−R SL (4384MiBs) or DVD+R DL (7961MiBs). For the purpose of this step by step, I will use the widely available DVD−R SL (4384MiBs), and do please take account of that size. You now must open (if you’re lazy) MS Windows Calculator. Here, you must enter the DVD disc size as mentioned, which is ‘4384’, with this digit you must minus or take away the file size of your transcoded AC3 file e.g. 307MB, therefore you will get 4384 – 307 = 4077. Note this number down.

Step 11: Now again, this is where you have to concentrate hard, back to MeGUI, on the top, click on ‘Tools’ and click on ‘Bitrate Calculator’ otherwise you can use the short cut ‘Ctrl + B’ a calculator window shall open up. All here is very easy to set up, if you’re a video guy you can enter all the correct information of your video (Hours, Minutes, Seconds etc.) and by doing this you should have the correct amount of seconds in length and frames displayed. Also what is important is to know what is the exact Framerate of your video, once or if you know you can select from the following framerates in the drop down choices, many times luckily in my case is 23.976, which is the framerate that hddvdmux claims to accept at the current time.

Make sure you don’t touch the Audio section of this calculator, otherwise you will screw it all up. Underneath that, there is the results section where you can select/enable the ‘Average Bitrate’ setting, do not touch this either because we are going to use this right at the end.

Next, is ‘Codec’ it should automatically be selected as ‘x264’ if not, please do so. After this there is ‘Container’, open the drop down menu and select ‘MP4’ as your container, purely because ‘MKV’ contains a few bytes more as a container than ‘MP4’ and I feel this is quite crucial to the bitrate as every single increment counts. Next is ‘Extra’…forget that.

After that is ‘Total Size’, it is important that you get this right. In this you are able to select different file sizes, including DVD disc sizes as well, but you would want to ignore those completely, instead click on ‘Select Size’ which you are able to input a custom file size in different digital information storages (KB, MB, GB), you will need to select ‘MB’, the reason being is because back in Step – 10 it was calculated what would be the file size if we removed the audio stream from the video that was authored onto a DVD−R SL, all of that was calculated from ‘MB’ file sizes. Assuming already what you need to put in here, in this example it would be ‘4077’ then click okay. Now you shall already find that the ‘Average Bitrate’ (as mentioned before not to touch) has changed in value, this is the bitrate you will need to carry over to the next step(s), note it down. With this, you are telling the calculator to calculate the bitrate for the video itself on the available space on the DVD disc that you plan to author it on.

Step 12: Afterwards click on the ‘Config’ button on your ‘Encoder Settings’. You will now have a new window open with loads of pretty adjustable settings for you to mess about, but I wouldn’t think about that anyways. Really in this step, you wouldn’t want to touch anything at all, because mainly I don’t know it myself completely, I am still quite new to understand it all. The only thing you want to adjust here is the Bitrate, this would determine your quality and file size at the end, and also this is where you placed your trust and math skills in place.

In here, only focus on the ‘General Section’. You will already find upon when selecting the HD-DVD preset that you will have settings already made for you, this being that in MODE: ‘Turbo’ is checked, and ‘Automated 2pass’ is selected, with the bitrate valued at ‘8000’, this is probably the only thing you will need to change, and as you can guess, change the current value to the value you have calculated in the Bitrate Calculator, that easy. When you click OK, you will get a message with choices upon you updating the profile, basically just click NO because you do not want to erase the HD-DVD preset, you will need it as it is and you can always make adjustments to it, but never overwrite it with what you have done, it will be made into a scratchpad, like a backup if you do loose your current settings.

NOTE: Now, you’re probably guessing its nearly time to encode, but please take the time to read this part; encoding MPEG-4 Part 10/AVC/ H.264 videos at High Definition resolution is a very heavy and long process, and consider the fact that a setting is selected as ‘Automated 2pass’, this means the process would include the application going through the video as a 1st pass, taking as much time as if it were encoding and then will proceed onto the 2nd pass, so you would have to somewhat almost dedicate a day or two for the whole thing to finish. However, ‘Automated 2pass’ is to actually determine and guarantee high quality, also because this setting is recommended for those who want to make a HD-DVD on a DVD−R SL disc, which is by far smaller than an HD-DVD disc itself and thus compression is greater, therefore going through the 2 pass route would indeed help on this situation to achieve better quality. However, if you are impatient, you can always change the mode to ‘2pass – 1pass’ which is essentially doing an encode straight away, but yet it can still take a heavy amount of time and it just barely slashes half the amount of time.

Step 13: After a good 12 steps, it is time for you to start making the magic happen :D which is just merely of you clicking ‘Enqueue’ and then, on the tabs above, click on the tab ‘Queue’, from there you will see a list of what will be processed, the second click is what will start it, you may at any time (if you’re patient) click on the ‘Start’ button and leave your computer alone, it is wise for nothing to be opened or you doing anything major while this is operating as it may affect the speed of the process altogether.

Step 14: After a day of not being able to do anything on the computer or to satisfy yourself with the means of using the computer, your encode will be or is complete. You have to be very careful that you do not delete this video, because you will have to go through another day without masturbation. Now with both of your encoded RAW files, rename them both to ‘test’ thus you will have ‘test.264’ and ‘test.ac3’. Cut and paste (Move) these two files directly in your hard drive (C:\), reason why I am mentioning this is because it will make things easier for hddvdmux to mux the files without having to type in long complicated directories and filenames.

Step 15: Once that is done, go through the procedure of having hddvdmux.exe running, now I am not going to go through exactly how to run this because if u don’t know how to run a DOS application, then you shouldn’t be using Microsoft Windows at all. Open and run hddvdmux and you should already get a simple procedure on what a user has to do:

“HD-DVD MUX 0.30 October 2th 2008
ALPHA release
AVC video must be 1080p24
Dolby Digital or Dolby Digital Plus audio supported
Example of useage below
hddvdmux.exe c:\test.264 c:\test.ac3 c:\outputdir 4172724”

This more or less already tells you what to do, if you have already and carefully followed the previous step(s) then this next one should be one of the last.

Step 16: Keeping open the DOS window, input the directory of where hddvdmux.exe is placed, hence example:

cd c:\X\hddvdmux030

Press Enter and you shall already have this directory as your main or default.

Step 17: Whilst you are in this directory, you may now enter the usage instructions that were made by ReferenceDivx himself:

hddvdmux.exe c:\test.264 c:\test.ac3 c:\outputdir 4172724

Press Enter. The muxing begins.

Now, this also takes awhile depending how big the file size is but yet I still recommend not touching anything while such a delicate process is happening. What is happening and doing is, it is compiling the streams together and creates a folder in the structure of a HD-DVD onto your hard drive, which you can take this directly into Nero to burn. After a few minutes or so, you should have successfully completed muxing the streams and now in a HD-DVD compliant folder.

Potential Step 18: Now I myself haven’t actually burned the whole thing onto disc properly because when I did the first time, I thought it was faulty and binned it, you can easily follow the instructions on the first page of this thread on what parameter and settings you should use, I then looked over the video files and saw nothing was wrong with what I’ve done, on 2 accounts I saw that there was definately a problem, the problem I have mentioned in this thread about, which during at the end of the video in the muxed streams, there seems to be a small length of footage missing, which no one knows how to correct this but ReferenceDivx himself. Other than that, the DVD itself actually played as a HD-DVD, I can tell by this by when entering the disc into my drive, PowerDVD loads up and recognizes the medium as a HD-DVD and played well, I found this quite amazing.

This was my procedure on what I created two of my HD-DVDs which was actually fantastic, and if there was more evidence to show that this actually worked, then ReferenceDivx would have probably continued development on this, and correct the issue I am having. It can probably go as far as not only creating a stable version, but one with a GUI and where u can create menus and so on. It could be another way of reviving bigger interest of HD-DVDs if you know what I mean.

To setarip_old, I do apologize for this delay, as u can see, it is quite lengthy, but I hope it is what you are asking for, and I hope you can and many others will understand. I look forward to hearing back from you here (or anyone perhaps, especially ReferenceDivx), even if you haven’t tried it yet, I am wanting to know what you lot think on how I written this either way.

[setarip_old]

1) Please be good enough to upload a clip of your successful .EVO

2) Regarding the "small length of footage missing" at the end of the video, one could speculate that it's due to the difference between "a DVD−R SL (4384MiBs) and "hddvdmux.exe c:\test.264 c:\test.ac3 c:\outputdir 4172724".

Have you tried replacing "4172724" with the result of converting 4,384MBs to KBs, which is 4,489,216KB?

OR

Have you tried replacing "4172724" with the sum of the KBs of your actual videostream plus your actual audiostream?

[Undead Sega]

2) Regarding the "small length of footage missing" at the end of the video, one could speculate that it's due to the difference between "a DVD−R SL (4384MiBs) and "hddvdmux.exe c:\test.264 c:\test.ac3 c:\outputdir 4172724".

Have you tried replacing "4172724" with the result of converting 4,384MBs to KBs, which is 4,489,216KB?

OR

Have you tried replacing "4172724" with the sum of the KBs of your actual videostream plus your actual audiostream?


This is actually very interesting and this is what i first thought of first, however that is not the case, because my encodes ive done where both for DVD+R DL (7961MiBs) and the number '4172724' that ReferenceDivX gave :

4172724 //the total number of 2048 byte packets to write, the maximum value is 4172724 for a dvd9

so that amount can be used on both SL and DL discs and for the process as well.

[setarip_old]

Once again, please be good enough to upload a clip of your successful .EVO

however that is not the caseDid you actually TRY the values?

[Undead Sega]

Once again, please be good enough to upload a clip of your successful .EVO

Did you actually TRY the values?

upload a full .EVO file??

i think u are still misunderstanding, the value '4172724' is for DVD9, not DVD5. Just because it resembles the value for a capacity of a DVD5, doesnt precisely mean it is for that, thoerwise it is mroe or less saying that ReferenceDivx is wrong on what he is saying. Otherwise, iw ould instead use the value '8345448' ?

[setarip_old]

upload a full .EVO file??No - Read carefully:
Once again, please be good enough to upload a clip of your successful .EVOJust a small piece...

And yet again, my question is a simple one - Did you actually TRY the values?

[laserfan]

the value '4172724' is for DVD9I have no idea why ReferenceDivx needs-or-uses 4172724 as the number of SECTORS in a DVD+R DL; for a Verbatim the number is actually 4,173,824.

[Undead Sega]

okay everyone, before i can continue, i need a big favour from any one of you.

basically, my hddvdmux application somewhat got corrupted recently (maybe because my antivirus might have mistaken it for something or whatever after all this time), therefore i need someone to upload me the hddvdmux030.zip that was originally on hte website which is closed down.

i am hoping someone here might have a copy laying around i would really appreciate it if they can give me a copy. please :D

thanks.

[setarip_old]

Cooperation works both ways:

Yet again, please be good enough to upload a clip of your successful .EVO

Did you actually TRY the values?

[Undead Sega]

look, the only way for me to do that, is to remux my two video streams, becuse i do not have them anymore, but i was luckily enough to still have the raw streams.

i was in the process of doing what u requested only to find out that the application doesnt work anymore, please anyone if u can upload me the programm again, because tomorrow i am going on holiday for 2 weeks and i want this to be sorted out as soon as possible.

i would really appreciate it. and im really sorry about this as well (especially to setarip_old ).

thanks.

[Undead Sega]

hello everyone, how r u all? i am messaging from Syria here, i am just here keeping up to date with stuff and also i was hoping if anyone has uploaded me a file of the program by now? i am still looking forward to it to help me finish this matter.

dont worry, i am not cheating anyone or as such, i am as suprised as you are regarding why my application doesnt work anymore even after a day that i just used it. again, i would really appreciate it. i'll be back once again.

[ReferenceDivx]

Hey guys its cool to see that you are still interested in this program.

I see you guys have a copule of questions that should be answered by me.

First of all, the number 4172724 is the number of (2048 byte sectors) that would consistently work for me. There is a small amount of overhead in the other necessary files and directories for the hddvd.

Second, there is a small amound of overhead for the muxing of the video and audio. I calculated that it is about 1.5 to 2 percent. So the program might cut off the last few minutes of the video if you dont take this into account.

Third, the last few seconds of video might unplayable. This is because i never wrote the functions to close out the disc properly. Sorry guys.

If anyone has a copy of the program could you please post a link so it can be downloaded by others.

P.S. This has been a very difficult last year for me. I really wish i could have made a program that had better functionality and worked more reliably. Sometimes you just have to quit and go on to another journey in life.

[Undead Sega]

heeey ReferenceDivX, its so great to hear back from you here! how you doing if u dont mind me asking? hope all is well, anyways, i hope u are still around here as i was hoping u can help me with some stuff here.

Regarding that i am glad u hve mentioned and cleared up a few things that was of concerned, like number 4172724, and the overhead which causes the cut off at the end of the video.

However, i was wondering, how do you overcome that? because that happens to be my only problem i ve when muxing a HD-DVD. because of that also, that what makes the last few seconds of the video unplayable.

I could probably understand ur life during the last year, we've all experienced it (us older guys) but i believe ur program can really make a difference, and that its the only HD-DVD authoring tool to accept AVC video streams. if u can help me with this (the formentioned problems) that will successfully create a working HD-DVD for me, i think i would like to advice to pursue or continue this application. I do think it has been a good break from it until now :D

[deank]

Since the original site is no longer available, here is a link to a self-extractable 7z archive of the original folder:

HDDVD.exe (http://rapidshare.com/files/257492234/HDDVD.exe) (850KB)

Dean

[setarip_old]

@deank

Don't you find it unusual that the author, "ReferenceDivx" is asking others to provide him/her with a copy of his/her own program?

[deank]

Well, it seems that the hddvdstrikesback domain is not paid and download link is not available, so may be the author doesn't have the archive (or time to upload it to another server).

[Undead Sega]

hello everyone, came back from holiday and finally gotten the application from wonderful peiople here who helped and immediantly went about authoring again a HDDVD, and trimmed an .evo file as a sample from the film Resident Evil: Degeneration and here it is:

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=1594867372344f1408f8df73f2072ed6e04e75f6e8ebb871

i hope this works for everyone here and every meaning :D

[Undead Sega]

hmmm...anyone at all may i ask? its only 100MB so it should be decent enough of footage in there, if it isnt good enough (because of it being a dark scene) let me know and i can quickly upload another while i hve the time.

[deank]

I downloaded the sample... not that I can use it :)

Is there a chance that you create a full HD-DVD structure with such a small duration and upload it (not just the .evo file). I'll try to add HD-DVD functionality in multiAVCHD.

It will ease all the steps for users like you.

Dean

[Undead Sega]

well, i could do something but it will a little bit eliminate the whole purpose of what i was trying to do but wat i can do is take a HD trailer and make a HDDVD out of it. and upload an ISO file of it as well.

sounds good?

[deank]

Yeah, but don't bother. I forgot that I can create HD-DVD myself... I'll let you know later if I can be of any help.

I was never able to use hddvdmux.exe - always getting 'general protection error' / 'application stopped working...'.

[setarip_old]

@deank

Hi!I forgot that I can create HD-DVD myself...Would you please be good enough to share your methodology for accomplishing this?

[deank]

I'm using Nero Vision @ my office.

Not that it creates the 'real' structure, because there are no 'feature_XX.evo' files but it is a start.

[setarip_old]

@deank

As I've mentioned to you (and others) before, if you CAN determine how to create the proper/formal HD-DVD structure, it would be a very useful tool (Should you need specific examples, there are many very inexpensive [$1-$3 US] commercial HD-DVDs available through Amazon "dealers")...

[Undead Sega]

@deank

As I've mentioned to you (and others) before, if you CAN determine how to create the proper/formal HD-DVD structure, it would be a very useful tool (Should you need specific examples, there are many very inexpensive [$1-$3 US] commercial HD-DVDs available through Amazon "dealers")...

what was wrong with the method i used? and i also even provided a sample clip which u have kindly requested, have u even downloaded it yet?

[deank]

@deank

As I've mentioned before, if you CAN determine how to create the proper/formal HD-DVD structure, it would be a very useful tool (Should you need specific examples, there are many very inexpensive [$1-$3 US] commercial HD-DVDs available through Amazon "dealers")...

Yes, it is not like Bulgaria is the favourite shipping destination and I have no HD-DVD player/reader.

what was wrong with the method i used? and i also even provided a sample clip which u have kindly requested, have u even downloaded it yet?

Nothing was wrong. I downloaded it, but it just a single .evo and I needed the whole structure.

I already added .evo to multiAVCHD, now I need to add the reverse.

Dean

[Undead Sega]

you could have always demuxed it and remux it into an MKV or an MP4 container.

[setarip_old]

@Undead Sega

Throughout this entire thread, you've been resisting people trying to move things further along.

Since it appears that you have thusfar been the only person to successfully use the apparently less-than-perfect program authored by "ReferenceDivx", you are being asked by the extremely cooperative, knowledgable, and helpful "deank" to simply make a VERY SMALL but COMPLETE HD-DVD (Including all files and folders that comprise the structure), so that he can possibly create a more complete, professional way to create HD-DVD format sets, perhaps including the ability to process other filetypes in addition to MPEG4-AVC/H264.

Therefore, perhaps without further ado, you'll be good enough to help yourself and others, by complying with the simple request made of you by "deank".

We all thank you for your anticipated cooperation...

[deank]

I spent the good part of the day editing the source (of hddvddemux.exe), trying to eliminate all buffer overflows, that cause the crash of this application. Of course - no more crashes, but the final .evo is unplayable :) - so a wasted day.

Anyway... At least I have success in encoding a 1280x720 video + DTS audio to a working HD-DVD structure (1920x1080 + AC3).

Here is a 20MB sample (http://rapidshare.com/files/262157927/HD-DVD-TEST-2.exe) if anyone with HD-DVD player can test. Of course - chapters, different audio codecs, subtitles and non AVC video are not possible, due to this program restricted functionality. May be chapters are possible to add in the .ifo, but that will need time.

Dean

p.s. I tested bitrates up to 15000, encoding with the old x264 (because I had no time to study the new profiles and options changes)

edit:

multiAVCHD now can reencode and generate HDDVD output with hddvddemux. It will reencode a (marked) title and will extract 1st audio track and convert it to AC3 (or will use the 1st external audio file and will convert it to AC3). Each title goes into different folder, but if there is any interest at all I can try to put multiple HD-DVD titles in a single directory.


[20:11:25] Log started for multiAVCHD v3.0 (build 667)
[20:11:25] Selected output mode: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)

[20:11:25] Processing 3 titles...
[20:11:25] Processing (D:\MJ Memorial.AC3.mkv)...
[20:11:25] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[20:11:25] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...
[20:11:25] *** Initiating video encoding:
[20:11:25] *** Original : 1280x720
[20:11:25] *** Crop : 0
[20:11:25] *** Resize : 1920x1080
[20:11:25] *** Uncrop to : 1920x1080
[20:11:25] *** Sharpen : 0
[20:11:25] *** Bitrate : 3916 kbps
[20:11:25] *** Level : 4.1
[20:11:25] *** B-frames : 3
[20:11:25] *** Ref-frames: 3
[20:11:25] *** Framerate : 23.976
[20:11:25] *** Two-pass : No
[20:11:25] *** Profile in use: (HD-DVD profile)
[20:11:25] *** Re-encoding with x264...
[20:14:15] *** Re-encoding completed successfully!

[20:14:15] Detected frame reference count: 2 (max:4).
[20:14:15] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=23.976, ref=2
[20:14:15] Detected audio: ID#2:A_AC3 (48000Hz 6ch) Language: und
[20:14:15] Attempting to convert A_AC3 audio track #2...
[20:14:15] Encoding A_AC3 to AC3...
[20:14:32] Audio encoded to AC3 successfully!
[20:14:32] Added audio: A_AC3, "d:\multiavchd\_temp_calcit\mj memorial.t2.ac3", lang=und
[20:14:32] M2TS stream split set at 4000MiB...
[20:14:32] Title is trimmed: 00:00:00 - 00:01:00
[20:14:32] Creating HD-DVD structure...
[20:14:36] HD-DVD muxing completed!

[20:14:37] Processing (D:\WALL-E cut.mkv)...
[20:14:37] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[20:14:37] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...
[20:14:37] *** Initiating video encoding:
[20:14:37] *** Original : 1280x528
[20:14:37] *** Crop : 0
[20:14:37] *** Resize : 1920x792
[20:14:37] *** Uncrop to : 1920x1080
[20:14:37] *** Sharpen : 0
[20:14:37] *** Bitrate : 4783 kbps
[20:14:37] *** Level : 4.1
[20:14:37] *** B-frames : 3
[20:14:37] *** Ref-frames: 3
[20:14:37] *** Framerate : Original
[20:14:37] *** Two-pass : No
[20:14:37] *** Profile in use: (HD-DVD profile)
[20:14:37] *** Re-encoding with x264...
[20:17:23] *** Re-encoding completed successfully!

[20:17:24] Detected frame reference count: 2 (max:4).
[20:17:24] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=23.976, ref=2
[20:17:24] Detected audio: ID#2:A_AC3 (48000Hz 6ch) Language: bul
[20:17:24] Attempting to convert A_AC3 audio track #2...
[20:17:24] Encoding A_AC3 to AC3...
[20:17:40] Audio encoded to AC3 successfully!
[20:17:40] Added audio: A_AC3, "d:\multiavchd\_temp_calcit\wall-e cut.t2.ac3", lang=bul
[20:17:53] Title is trimmed: 00:00:00 - 00:01:00
[20:17:53] Creating HD-DVD structure...
[20:17:59] HD-DVD muxing completed!

[20:17:59] Processing (D:\Open.Season.2.cut.mkv)...
[20:17:59] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[20:17:59] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...
[20:17:59] *** Initiating video encoding:
[20:17:59] *** Original : 1920x1080
[20:17:59] *** Crop : 0
[20:17:59] *** Resize : 1920x1080 (No change)
[20:17:59] *** Uncrop to : 1920x1080
[20:17:59] *** Sharpen : 0
[20:17:59] *** Bitrate : 6524 kbps
[20:17:59] *** Level : 4.1
[20:17:59] *** B-frames : 3
[20:17:59] *** Ref-frames: 3
[20:17:59] *** Framerate : Original
[20:17:59] *** Two-pass : No
[20:17:59] *** Profile in use: (HD-DVD profile)
[20:17:59] *** Re-encoding with x264...
[20:20:05] *** Re-encoding completed successfully!

[20:20:06] Detected frame reference count: 2 (max:4).
[20:20:06] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=23.976, ref=2
[20:20:06] Detected audio: ID#2:A_DTS (48000Hz 16bit 6ch) Language: eng
[20:20:06] Attempting to convert A_DTS audio track #2...
[20:20:06] Encoding A_DTS to AC3...
[20:20:22] Audio encoded to AC3 successfully!
[20:20:22] Added audio: A_AC3, "d:\multiavchd\_temp_calcit\open.season.2.cut.t2.ac3", lang=eng
[20:20:22] Title is trimmed: 00:00:00 - 00:00:45
[20:20:22] Creating HD-DVD structure...
[20:20:28] HD-DVD muxing completed!


http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_HDDVD.jpg

***

Also I just tried with an Apple trailer (wildocean_h1080p.mp4) with AAC audio and it worked, too.

A link to the HD-DVD converted structure (120MB): here (http://rapidshare.com/files/262237415/HD-DVD-Wild_Ocean.exe)


[21:16:28] Processing one title...
[21:16:28] Processing (D:\Downloads\__TEST\wildocean_h1080p.mp4)...
[21:16:28] Pre-processing MP4 file...
[21:16:37] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[21:16:37] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...
[21:16:37] *** Initiating video encoding:
[21:16:37] *** Original : 1920x1080
[21:16:37] *** Crop : 0
[21:16:37] *** Resize : 1920x1080 (No change)
[21:16:37] *** Uncrop to : 1920x1080
[21:16:37] *** Sharpen : 0
[21:16:37] *** Bitrate : 9266 kbps
[21:16:37] *** Level : 4.1
[21:16:37] *** B-frames : 3
[21:16:37] *** Ref-frames: 3
[21:16:37] *** Framerate : Original
[21:16:37] *** Two-pass : No
[21:16:37] *** Profile in use: (HD-DVD profile)
[21:16:37] *** Re-encoding with x264...
[21:22:07] *** Re-encoding completed successfully!

[21:22:07] Detected frame reference count: 2 (max:4).
[21:22:07] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=23.976, ref=2
[21:22:07] Detected audio: ID#2:A_AAC (44100Hz 16bit 6ch) Language: und
[21:22:07] Attempting to convert A_AAC audio track #2...
[21:22:07] Demuxing AAC audio...
[21:22:09] Decoding AAC to PCM audio...
[21:22:11] Encoding PCM to AC3 audio...
[21:22:30] AAC to AC3 conversion successful!
[21:22:30] Added audio: A_AC3, "D:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP_calcit\temp-2.ac3", lang=und
[21:22:30] M2TS stream split set at 4000MiB...
[21:22:30] Creating HD-DVD structure...
[21:22:49] HD-DVD muxing completed!

[setarip_old]

@deank

Hi!

The sample you've provided plays perfectly (from .ISO image file and from burned DVD5) under PowerDVD v.7.3!

Unfortunately, for some reason, my (standalone) Toshiba HD-A3 is seeing the disc as a "non-compliant DVD", rather than as an HD-DVD.

Since I have a vague recollection of my long ago partially successful use of the original program by "ReferenceDivx" (DVD5 was accepted as an HD-DVD by the Toshiba HD-A3), I feel comfortable in surmising that something further needs to be done with your adaptation.

I'll examine one of my original HD-DVDs and see if, as a layman, I can spot anything obvious.

It looks like you're almost there ;>}


**EDIT** Adding ".BUP" files did not resolve anything. Still plays under PowerDVD v.7.3 and still is rejected by the Toshiba HD-A3...

[deank]

I can only test with Nero Showtime and the output works there. The folder output is 100% pure hddvddemux.exe output and multiAVCHD does not touch it (atm).

It is possible that there is something wrong in the x264 encoding parameters, but I can't know for sure and which one. It took some time to make x264 create a .264 which hddvddemux will accept without crashing.

I'll post another 3 samples in a moment.

Wild ocean (http://rapidshare.com/files/262237415/HD-DVD-Wild_Ocean.exe) (120MB)
Captivity (http://rapidshare.com/files/262248010/HD-DVD-Captivity.exe) (150MB)

PB Cut (http://rapidshare.com/files/262249448/HVDVD_TS.exe) (10MB) (with bup and no adv_obj)

edit: I was to suggest about the .BUP files. Can you also remove ADV_OBJ folder and try again? I guess you 'backed-up' the .ifo files as bup, right?