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lexor
25th February 2009, 02:14
--threads auto implies --thread-input ;)

Ok, I've got to report this in MeGUI thread, I changed blu-ray_fast to multi-hex (and profile does report --me umh), but the log reports dia...

that was the source of speed difference.

Sharktooth
25th February 2009, 02:26
post the logfile.
--me dia is perfectly normal in the 1st pass if the Turbo option is selected.

lexor
25th February 2009, 02:45
post the logfile.
--me dia is perfectly normal in the 1st pass if the Turbo option is selected.
bah, that's what I get for trying to do 2pass after years of crf. there is no turbo for blu-ray profile, but there is for fast one.

All is good now :) The world is sane once again.

Codex0nz
27th February 2009, 01:30
Sorry for this stupid question but im slightly confused, at the moment i've been using Unrestricted 2pass Anime_Toons Insane which uses 16 b frames

But i was looking at DXVA-SD-Anime_Toons HQ which only uses 3 b-frames

i was under the impression that you needed at least 10-20 bframes for anime / cartoons? :S

After reading through this thread (ish) it seems better to use the dxva profiles, am i right?

Can someone please clear my confusion :<

Kurtnoise
27th February 2009, 05:40
by specifying 16 Bframes (which is the max admitted by x264), you let the compressor choose the right # by itself...

Codex0nz
27th February 2009, 10:04
ok so if i choose 16 frames, x264 will decide how many frames is necessary automatically, correct?

Kurtnoise
27th February 2009, 10:35
ok so if i choose 16, x264 will decide how many b-frames is necessary automatically, correct?
correct with the bold modification...

Codex0nz
27th February 2009, 12:41
that's what i meant >_>

<_<

look

a goose

jult
5th March 2009, 16:01
READ CAREFULLY: Download the archive. Delete all the MeGUI x264 presets before importing these ones. Import the presets using the MeGUI File->Import Presets menu'.When I try import, it wants the .Zip archive, and when I select it, this yields an empty window where nothing can be selected to import. Hmm.. megui is still a bit flaky.

meGui also keeps asking me to update, while I already DID and it already SAYS it has downloaded the update and requires a restart. It's in an endless loop.

Again, Sharktooth; Do you have these profiles in normal text-format? I don't need meGui, but I'm interested in the script-commands (CLI form).

Sharktooth
5th March 2009, 20:33
the presets are not needed to be manually added if you have an internet connection and let megui auto-update.
Do you have these profiles in normal text-format? I don't need meGui, but I'm interested in the script-commands (CLI form).
no, sorry.

jult
6th March 2009, 15:36
the presets are not needed to be manually added if you have an internet connection and let megui auto-update.Yeah, that's what I did, and it keeps telling me I need to update. meGui is buggy. I have done nothing out of the ordinary and tried to let it do its thing. It will keep telling me I need to update. Very annoying.

And, like I wrote: I only get an empty Window showing nothing to import after I selected the .zip.

By the way, I found the commands in txt here: http://x264.tobinaka.com/index.php?Presets

Sharktooth
7th March 2009, 04:43
jult, what you say it's quite weird since i cant reproduce your problem and no one filed a bug report on that regard.
so basically the problem is on your end and it's not a megui bug.

-Phantom-
16th March 2009, 17:09
why are you using 16 brames in Unrestricted 1pass Const. Quality ** presets, they are not used x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 1.8% 98.2% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0%
i checked speed of compression - speed the same (+/- 2 fps)
but i think you should to change brames to ~3 in Unrestricted 1pass Const. Quality Fast only

Sharktooth
16th March 2009, 21:55
short answer: no.
long answer: :search:

if after searching you have still no idea why the answer is no, then you didnt search enough.

-Phantom-
19th March 2009, 04:50
more b-frames in Unrestricted e.hq and insane presets
V79: Limited the number of B-Frames when b-adapt 2 is set for encoding speed reasons.
insane and speed incompatible things...
e.hq - 3->6
insane - 4->10 or 16:)

Sharktooth
19th March 2009, 13:48
10 or 16 b-frames and b-adapt 2 = suicide...
and 4 b-frames with b-adapt 2 is better than 16 b-frames with b-adapt 1 or 0.
on the other hand since b-adapt 1 speed inpact is negligile, it's better to let the encoder choose the number of b-frames to place in a row. so the unrestricted presets with b-adapt 1 come with 16 adaptive b-frames and the encoder makes the decision on how many b-frames to use...
you didnt search enough :p

Sharktooth
19th March 2009, 14:08
Presets updated: V84.

-Phantom-
19th March 2009, 16:49
10 or 16 b-frames and b-adapt 2 = suicide...
--me tesa is suicide

4 bframes - 2.13 fps
16 bframes - 1.92 fps

me multi hex (--me umh), 16 bframes - 5.18 fps

bitrate ( --crf 18) : 5919, 5852, 5856

Sharktooth
19th March 2009, 18:04
try with --b-adapt 2 and 16 b-frames. if only you followed my advice and used the search function you would have found this: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=139827
i wont change the presets coz you didnt get documented expecially since by now many PCs have multiple cores CPU and --b-adapt 2 is NOT multithreaded.

-Phantom-
19th March 2009, 20:10
try with --b-adapt 2 and 16 b-frames.
results from previous post with --b-adapt 2
4 bframes - 2.13 fps == insane preset (1 pass const quality)
16 bframes - 1.92 fps == insane preset + 16 bframes
me multi hex, 16 bframes - 5.18 fps == insane preset + 16 bframes --me umh
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=139827
i read this after first :search:

--b-adapt 2 is NOT multithreaded.
really? show me...
i have 95% load on 4 cores

nurbs
19th March 2009, 20:30
Frametype decision isn't threaded, it's just less noticable with --b-adapt 1. Dark Shikari posted it a hundred times so you can easily find confirmation if you don't belive Sharktooth. If you use very slow settings you can still easily get high CPU load. Also if you do a multipass encode the frametype decision is done in first pass so it doesn't make a difference in the second.

-Phantom-
19th March 2009, 20:47
nurbs,thanks
but i don't understand why Sharktooth don't want increase b-frames

if i see in log
consecutive B-frames: 7.5% 26.7% 27.8% 12.3% 7.5% 4.5% 3.8% 1.7% 0.6% 1.8% 1.6% 1.3% 0.0% 0.5% 0.5% 1.1% 0.6%
there is no a lot of 0.0 or 0.1-0.2, at end
so i need more than 4 bframes

i show that me algoritm tesa is more harder than 16 bframes

i understand that there are various video sequences...

Sharktooth
20th March 2009, 14:10
i understand that there are various video sequences...
that's the reason. also, in your sequence the first 4 or 5 consecutive b-frames are making the real difference.
also, no one stops you from creating your own preset for your own purpouses.
i tried to find an optimal compromise (--me TESA was for ppl complaining there was no TESA in insane presets... so, at the end, i had to gave up...) for "usability".

-Phantom-
20th March 2009, 14:55
give up for this once :)
increace brames just a little

ghat
23rd March 2009, 17:16
hi

Can we have a profile for dumb guys trying to rip a DVD.. to AVC

may be

x264-Standalone-avc-SD

or else what is the best profile...

I used the guide at http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/MeGUI/Basic_DVD_Ripping_Guide/Video

there is no HQ-Slower, so I used

x264-Unrestricted 2pass HQ, and ended up with a 1.2GB rip with 1Kbps bitrate, (too big I guess compared to the xvid's I used to do with GK)
and more over, the rip plays with windows and mplayer(ubuntu) but fails with the latest SVN of my XBMC(jaunty/linux) media center...

anyways I am still experimenting...

Ghat

Sharktooth
23rd March 2009, 22:46
there is no best as per forum rules.
the presets are meant to produce "hardware" (devices, standalone players, PC, etc) playable file.
it all depends on the target for your encoding.
now, about the bitrate problem, you better read some guides since eventually you didnt get an idea of the megui "workflow".

SpAwN_gUy
24th March 2009, 12:52
sorry, (someone can delete this post later)...
V84: Added Andtroid G1 preset
i think it should be without t ...
sorry to just pointing this out ;)

fifteen
24th March 2009, 18:16
Is there any reason the x264: Standalone-Blu-ray bitrate is set to 8000?

Can it safely be increased? (in terms of compatibility with Bluray players and in terms of playback of Bluray on DVD media)

I have a scene that contains white noise and a fade.....

ghat
24th March 2009, 23:53
hi

I also have a thread on this other forum...

http://www.xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?p=302423

Do we have any XBMC linux users here who have faced similar problems ?

Ghat

Sharktooth
25th March 2009, 01:23
sorry, (someone can delete this post later)...

i think it should be without t ...
sorry to just pointing this out ;)
yup. typo.

Sharktooth
25th March 2009, 01:24
Is there any reason the x264: Standalone-Blu-ray bitrate is set to 8000?

Can it safely be increased? (in terms of compatibility with Bluray players and in terms of playback of Bluray on DVD media)

I have a scene that contains white noise and a fade.....
that bitrate is just a default. feel free to change it as long as you keep it below 40000.

Sharktooth
25th March 2009, 01:27
hi

I also have a thread on this other forum...

http://www.xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?p=302423

Do we have any XBMC linux users here who have faced similar problems ?

Ghat
im sorry but as long as it plays on other players, it means the problems lie somewhere in XBMC.

fifteen
25th March 2009, 19:01
x264: Standalone-Blu-ray vbvbufsize is set at 40000

this thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=134402
states that it's 30000 for bluray

Which is wrong?

b66pak
25th March 2009, 20:01
hi, today i encoded a 22 minute episode of South Park from a HD source...i used Xvid: 2pass HQ (no Qpel) meGUI profile for a 624x352@23.976 fps .avi...the desired final lenght was 1/4 of a cdr (175mb) but i get 220mb!!!...what could be the problem?

would be nice to add anime profiles for xvid and x264 for console (psp, ps3, xbox, xbox360) even iphone...
_

rapscallion
25th March 2009, 21:57
What profile should I use for AVCHD playability (DVD9) in a standalone Blu-ray player, please ? I'm guessing " x264:standalone-blu-ray" but want to be sure. Surprised that there isn't a AVCHD profile preset as many are converting mkv files.

Sharktooth
26th March 2009, 02:38
x264: Standalone-Blu-ray vbvbufsize is set at 40000

this thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=134402
states that it's 30000 for bluray

Which is wrong?
blu-ray specs say 40000 as you can verify by youself reading the blu-ray FAQ (http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/#bluray_vs_dvd_comparison).

hi, today i encoded a 22 minute episode of South Park from a HD source...i used Xvid: 2pass HQ (no Qpel) meGUI profile for a 624x352@23.976 fps .avi...the desired final lenght was 1/4 of a cdr (175mb) but i get 220mb!!!...what could be the problem?

would be nice to add anime profiles for xvid and x264 for console (psp, ps3, xbox, xbox360) even iphone...
_
Xvid has no particular settings that can give a significant improvement for anime.
about your wrong filesize, did you consider the audio in the calculations?

What profile should I use for AVCHD playability in a standalone Blu-ray player, please ? I'm guessing " x264:standalone-blu-ray" but want to be sure. Surprised that there isn't a AVCHD profile preset as many are converting mkv files.
There is indeed an AVCHD preset (Standalone-AVC-HD). However AVCHD is not MKV.

rapscallion
26th March 2009, 03:15
There is indeed an AVCHD preset (Standalone-AVC-HD). However AVCHD is not MKV.
Yes, what I was saying is that I'm converting an MKV file to an AVCHD (DVD9), and when I installed MEGUI 3 days ago, I didn't see that x264 option. Found your post on pg1 and downloaded the complete profile list, so I have it now. Thank you !

b66pak
26th March 2009, 19:38
Xvid has no particular settings that can give a significant improvement for anime.
about your wrong filesize, did you consider the audio in the calculations?

yes i do...audio was already done...i used autoencode, set the size to 1/4 cdr and add the external audio...

log said "calculated the bitrate after substracting audio 930kbs" and finally "desired bitrate 930kbs, obtained bitrate 1200kbs"...very weird...
_

shon3i
26th March 2009, 19:56
blu-ray specs say 40000 as you can verify by youself reading theYes for Maxrate not for buffersize, you probably mis understood something. Every original BD movie have buffer @ 30000 and maxrate from 30000-40000. Every H264 BD compactible encoder have max buffer at 30000 (mc, elecard, sonic) and if you want stay to bluray, you can't use higher

Sharktooth
28th March 2009, 16:37
Oops...

fifteen
28th March 2009, 16:51
Yes for Maxrate not for buffersize, you probably mis understood something. Every original BD movie have buffer @ 30000 and maxrate from 30000-40000. Every H264 BD compactible encoder have max buffer at 30000 (mc, elecard, sonic) and if you want stay to bluray, you can't use higher

This brings up another question of mine. Why are people using bufsize settings that are quite a bit lower for bd5/bd9....I always thought bufsize was hardware related. Wouldn't that mean that the bufsize should sit at 30000 even if the maxrate might be set way lower to account for bd5/bd9 max read speed?

Sharktooth, could you include a bd5/9 preset?

shon3i
28th March 2009, 18:50
This brings up another question of mine. Why are people using bufsize settings that are quite a bit lower for bd5/bd9....I always thought bufsize was hardware related. Wouldn't that mean that the bufsize should sit at 30000 even if the maxrate might be set way lower to account for bd5/bd9 max read speed?

Sharktooth, could you include a bd5/9 preset?
I just have same dilemma, look here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145917. I am ask same question, but nobody can comfirm.

b66pak
29th March 2009, 19:34
hi, today i encoded a 22 minute episode of South Park from a HD source...i used Xvid: 2pass HQ (no Qpel) meGUI profile for a 624x352@23.976 fps .avi...the desired final lenght was 1/4 of a cdr (175mb) but i get 220mb!!!...what could be the problem?

here is the log:

[Information] Log
-[Information] Versions
--[NoImage] MeGUI Version : 0.3.1.1022
--[NoImage] OS : Windows XP Professional x86 SP3 (5.1.196608.2600)
--[NoImage] Framework used : 2.0 SP1 (2.0.50727.1433)
-[Information] Hardware
--[NoImage] CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
-[Information] Log for job4 (video, South Park s13 e02 720p.avs -> )
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:17:31 PM] Started handling job
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:17:31 PM] Preprocessing
---[Information] Bitrate calculation for video
----[NoImage] Desired size after subtracting audio: 152247KBs
----[NoImage] Calculated desired bitrate: 941kbit/s
--[NoImage] Job commandline: "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\xvid_encraw\xvid_encraw.exe" -i "F:\x264\South Park s13 e02 720p.avs" -pass1 "F:\x264\South Park s13 e02 720p.stats" -bitrate 941 -kboost 100 -chigh 30 -clow 15 -overhead 0 -turbo -max_key_interval 250 -nopacked -vhqmode 4 -closed_gop -lumimasking -imin 1 -pmin 1 -bvhq -bquant_ratio 162 -bquant_offset 0 -bmin 1 -par 1:1 -threads 1
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:17:36 PM] Encoding started
--[NoImage] Standard output stream
---[NoImage] xvid_encraw - raw mpeg4 bitstream encoder written by Christoph Lampert 2002-2003
---[NoImage] Tot: enctime(ms) =893546.00, length(bytes) = 123311173
---[NoImage] Avg: enctime(ms) = 28.12, fps = 35.56, length(bytes) = 3880
---[NoImage] I frames: 341 frames, size = 34909/ 11904257, quants = 2 / 2.00 / 2
---[NoImage] P frames: 10788 frames, size = 6744/ 72763662, quants = 2 / 2.00 / 2
---[NoImage] B frames: 20639 frames, size = 1872/ 38643219, quants = 3 / 3.00 / 3
---[NoImage] N frames: 5 frames, size = 7/ 35
--[NoImage] Standard error stream
---[NoImage] Trying to retrieve width and height from input header
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Avisynth detected
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Input colorspace is YV12
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Input is 624 x 352, 23.976fps (2500000/104271), starting from frame 0
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Number of frames to encode: 31773, Bitrate = 941kbps
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: xvidcore build version: xvid-1.2.1
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Bitstream version: 1.2.1
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Detected CPU flags: ASM MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 3DNOW 3DNOWEXT TSC
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Detected cpus = 1, threads requested = 1, threads in use = 1
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:32:31 PM] Postprocessing
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:32:31 PM] Job completed
-[Information] Log for job5 (video, South Park s13 e02 720p.avs -> South Park s13 e02 720p.avi)
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:32:31 PM] Started handling job
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:32:31 PM] Preprocessing
--[NoImage] Job commandline: "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\xvid_encraw\xvid_encraw.exe" -i "F:\x264\South Park s13 e02 720p.avs" -pass2 "F:\x264\South Park s13 e02 720p.stats" -bitrate 941 -kboost 100 -chigh 30 -clow 15 -overhead 0 -max_key_interval 250 -nopacked -vhqmode 4 -closed_gop -lumimasking -imin 1 -pmin 1 -bvhq -bquant_ratio 162 -bquant_offset 0 -bmin 1 -par 1:1 -threads 1 -avi "F:\x264\South Park s13 e02 720p.avi"
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:32:32 PM] Encoding started
--[NoImage] Standard output stream
---[NoImage] xvid_encraw - raw mpeg4 bitstream encoder written by Christoph Lampert 2002-2003
---[NoImage] Tot: enctime(ms) =1487624.00, length(bytes) = 191861615
---[NoImage] Avg: enctime(ms) = 46.82, fps = 21.36, length(bytes) = 6038
---[NoImage] I frames: 341 frames, size = 59251/ 20204743, quants = 1 / 1.00 / 1
---[NoImage] P frames: 10791 frames, size = 6568/ 70885591, quants = 1 / 1.94 / 3
---[NoImage] B frames: 20639 frames, size = 4882/ 100771267, quants = 1 / 2.55 / 4
---[NoImage] N frames: 2 frames, size = 7/ 14
--[NoImage] Standard error stream
---[NoImage] Trying to retrieve width and height from input header
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Avisynth detected
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Input colorspace is YV12
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Input is 624 x 352, 23.976fps (2500000/104271), starting from frame 0
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Number of frames to encode: 31773, Bitrate = 941kbps
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: xvidcore build version: xvid-1.2.1
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Bitstream version: 1.2.1
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Detected CPU flags: ASM MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 3DNOW 3DNOWEXT TSC
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Detected cpus = 1, threads requested = 1, threads in use = 1
--[Information] Final statistics
---[NoImage] Video Bitrate Desired: 941 kbit/s
---[NoImage] Video Bitrate Obtained (approximate): 1162 kbit/s
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:57:24 PM] Postprocessing
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:57:24 PM] Job completed
-[Information] Log for job6 (mux, South Park s13 e02 720p.avi -> South Park s13 e02 720p-muxed.avi)
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:57:24 PM] Started handling job
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:57:24 PM] Preprocessing
--[NoImage] Job commandline: "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\avimux_gui\avimux_gui.exe" "C:\Documents and Settings\XXX\Local Settings\Temp\tmp33.tmp"
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:57:24 PM] Encoding started
--[NoImage] Standard output stream: Unicode flag: 1
--[NoImage] Standard error stream
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:57:44 PM] Postprocessing
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:57:44 PM] Job completed

today a tried another South Park episode with the same oversize problem!

here is the log:

[Information] Log
-[Information] Versions
--[NoImage] MeGUI Version : 0.3.1.1022
--[NoImage] OS : Windows XP Professional x86 SP3 (5.1.196608.2600)
--[NoImage] Framework used : 2.0 SP1 (2.0.50727.1433)
-[Information] Hardware
--[NoImage] CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
-[Information] Log for job10 (video, South Park s13 e03 720p.avs -> )
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:07:00 PM] Started handling job
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:07:00 PM] Preprocessing
---[Information] Bitrate calculation for video
----[NoImage] Desired size after subtracting audio: 153679KBs
----[NoImage] Calculated desired bitrate: 949kbit/s
--[NoImage] Job commandline: "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\xvid_encraw\xvid_encraw.exe" -i "F:\x264\South Park s13 e03 720p.avs" -pass1 "F:\x264\South Park s13 e03 720p.stats" -bitrate 949 -kboost 100 -chigh 30 -clow 15 -overhead 0 -turbo -max_key_interval 250 -nopacked -vhqmode 4 -closed_gop -lumimasking -imin 1 -pmin 1 -bvhq -bquant_ratio 162 -bquant_offset 0 -bmin 1 -par 1:1 -threads 1
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:07:01 PM] Encoding started
--[NoImage] Standard output stream
---[NoImage] xvid_encraw - raw mpeg4 bitstream encoder written by Christoph Lampert 2002-2003
---[NoImage] Tot: enctime(ms) =929218.00, length(bytes) = 114875401
---[NoImage] Avg: enctime(ms) = 29.24, fps = 34.21, length(bytes) = 3614
---[NoImage] I frames: 325 frames, size = 39803/ 12936290, quants = 2 / 2.00 / 2
---[NoImage] P frames: 10734 frames, size = 6260/ 67195543, quants = 2 / 2.00 / 2
---[NoImage] B frames: 20716 frames, size = 1677/ 34743519, quants = 3 / 3.00 / 3
---[NoImage] N frames: 7 frames, size = 7/ 49
--[NoImage] Standard error stream
---[NoImage] Trying to retrieve width and height from input header
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Avisynth detected
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Input colorspace is YV12
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Input is 624 x 352, 23.976fps (2500000/104271), starting from frame 0
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Number of frames to encode: 31782, Bitrate = 949kbps
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: xvidcore build version: xvid-1.2.1
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Bitstream version: 1.2.1
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Detected CPU flags: ASM MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 3DNOW 3DNOWEXT TSC
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Detected cpus = 1, threads requested = 1, threads in use = 1
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:22:32 PM] Postprocessing
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:22:32 PM] Job completed
-[Information] Log for job11 (video, South Park s13 e03 720p.avs -> South Park s13 e03 720p.avi)
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:22:32 PM] Started handling job
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:22:32 PM] Preprocessing
--[NoImage] Job commandline: "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\xvid_encraw\xvid_encraw.exe" -i "F:\x264\South Park s13 e03 720p.avs" -pass2 "F:\x264\South Park s13 e03 720p.stats" -bitrate 949 -kboost 100 -chigh 30 -clow 15 -overhead 0 -max_key_interval 250 -nopacked -vhqmode 4 -closed_gop -lumimasking -imin 1 -pmin 1 -bvhq -bquant_ratio 162 -bquant_offset 0 -bmin 1 -par 1:1 -threads 1 -avi "F:\x264\South Park s13 e03 720p.avi"
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:22:33 PM] Encoding started
--[NoImage] Standard output stream
---[NoImage] xvid_encraw - raw mpeg4 bitstream encoder written by Christoph Lampert 2002-2003
---[NoImage] Tot: enctime(ms) =1603479.00, length(bytes) = 193737801
---[NoImage] Avg: enctime(ms) = 50.45, fps = 19.82, length(bytes) = 6095
---[NoImage] I frames: 325 frames, size = 65628/ 21329271, quants = 1 / 1.00 / 1
---[NoImage] P frames: 10739 frames, size = 6547/ 70310139, quants = 1 / 1.88 / 3
---[NoImage] B frames: 20716 frames, size = 4928/ 102098377, quants = 1 / 2.48 / 4
---[NoImage] N frames: 2 frames, size = 7/ 14
--[NoImage] Standard error stream
---[NoImage] Trying to retrieve width and height from input header
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Avisynth detected
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Input colorspace is YV12
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Input is 624 x 352, 23.976fps (2500000/104271), starting from frame 0
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Number of frames to encode: 31782, Bitrate = 949kbps
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: xvidcore build version: xvid-1.2.1
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Bitstream version: 1.2.1
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Detected CPU flags: ASM MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 3DNOW 3DNOWEXT TSC
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Detected cpus = 1, threads requested = 1, threads in use = 1
--[Information] Final statistics
---[NoImage] Video Bitrate Desired: 949 kbit/s
---[NoImage] Video Bitrate Obtained (approximate): 1173 kbit/s
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:49:24 PM] Postprocessing
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:49:24 PM] Job completed
-[Information] Log for job12 (mux, South Park s13 e03 720p.avi -> South Park s13 e03 720p-muxed.avi)
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:49:24 PM] Started handling job
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:49:24 PM] Preprocessing
--[NoImage] Job commandline: "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\avimux_gui\avimux_gui.exe" "C:\Documents and Settings\XXX\Local Settings\Temp\tmp178C.tmp"
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:49:24 PM] Encoding started
--[NoImage] Standard output stream: Unicode flag: 1
--[NoImage] Standard error stream
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:49:46 PM] Postprocessing
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:49:46 PM] Job completed

look at highlighted sections!

any suggestions?
_

Socio
3rd April 2009, 12:01
I am using the "Standalone-Blu-ray" preset and the encoded image is very soft, too soft, I am not sure if it is the preset settings or it is being over compressed, or both.

Anyone else get this?

Sharktooth
3rd April 2009, 12:46
here is the log:

[Information] Log
-[Information] Versions
--[NoImage] MeGUI Version : 0.3.1.1022
--[NoImage] OS : Windows XP Professional x86 SP3 (5.1.196608.2600)
--[NoImage] Framework used : 2.0 SP1 (2.0.50727.1433)
-[Information] Hardware
--[NoImage] CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
-[Information] Log for job4 (video, South Park s13 e02 720p.avs -> )
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:17:31 PM] Started handling job
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:17:31 PM] Preprocessing
---[Information] Bitrate calculation for video
----[NoImage] Desired size after subtracting audio: 152247KBs
----[NoImage] Calculated desired bitrate: 941kbit/s
--[NoImage] Job commandline: "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\xvid_encraw\xvid_encraw.exe" -i "F:\x264\South Park s13 e02 720p.avs" -pass1 "F:\x264\South Park s13 e02 720p.stats" -bitrate 941 -kboost 100 -chigh 30 -clow 15 -overhead 0 -turbo -max_key_interval 250 -nopacked -vhqmode 4 -closed_gop -lumimasking -imin 1 -pmin 1 -bvhq -bquant_ratio 162 -bquant_offset 0 -bmin 1 -par 1:1 -threads 1
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:17:36 PM] Encoding started
--[NoImage] Standard output stream
---[NoImage] xvid_encraw - raw mpeg4 bitstream encoder written by Christoph Lampert 2002-2003
---[NoImage] Tot: enctime(ms) =893546.00, length(bytes) = 123311173
---[NoImage] Avg: enctime(ms) = 28.12, fps = 35.56, length(bytes) = 3880
---[NoImage] I frames: 341 frames, size = 34909/ 11904257, quants = 2 / 2.00 / 2
---[NoImage] P frames: 10788 frames, size = 6744/ 72763662, quants = 2 / 2.00 / 2
---[NoImage] B frames: 20639 frames, size = 1872/ 38643219, quants = 3 / 3.00 / 3
---[NoImage] N frames: 5 frames, size = 7/ 35
--[NoImage] Standard error stream
---[NoImage] Trying to retrieve width and height from input header
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Avisynth detected
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Input colorspace is YV12
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Input is 624 x 352, 23.976fps (2500000/104271), starting from frame 0
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Number of frames to encode: 31773, Bitrate = 941kbps
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: xvidcore build version: xvid-1.2.1
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Bitstream version: 1.2.1
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Detected CPU flags: ASM MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 3DNOW 3DNOWEXT TSC
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Detected cpus = 1, threads requested = 1, threads in use = 1
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:32:31 PM] Postprocessing
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:32:31 PM] Job completed
-[Information] Log for job5 (video, South Park s13 e02 720p.avs -> South Park s13 e02 720p.avi)
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:32:31 PM] Started handling job
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:32:31 PM] Preprocessing
--[NoImage] Job commandline: "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\xvid_encraw\xvid_encraw.exe" -i "F:\x264\South Park s13 e02 720p.avs" -pass2 "F:\x264\South Park s13 e02 720p.stats" -bitrate 941 -kboost 100 -chigh 30 -clow 15 -overhead 0 -max_key_interval 250 -nopacked -vhqmode 4 -closed_gop -lumimasking -imin 1 -pmin 1 -bvhq -bquant_ratio 162 -bquant_offset 0 -bmin 1 -par 1:1 -threads 1 -avi "F:\x264\South Park s13 e02 720p.avi"
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:32:32 PM] Encoding started
--[NoImage] Standard output stream
---[NoImage] xvid_encraw - raw mpeg4 bitstream encoder written by Christoph Lampert 2002-2003
---[NoImage] Tot: enctime(ms) =1487624.00, length(bytes) = 191861615
---[NoImage] Avg: enctime(ms) = 46.82, fps = 21.36, length(bytes) = 6038
---[NoImage] I frames: 341 frames, size = 59251/ 20204743, quants = 1 / 1.00 / 1
---[NoImage] P frames: 10791 frames, size = 6568/ 70885591, quants = 1 / 1.94 / 3
---[NoImage] B frames: 20639 frames, size = 4882/ 100771267, quants = 1 / 2.55 / 4
---[NoImage] N frames: 2 frames, size = 7/ 14
--[NoImage] Standard error stream
---[NoImage] Trying to retrieve width and height from input header
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Avisynth detected
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Input colorspace is YV12
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Input is 624 x 352, 23.976fps (2500000/104271), starting from frame 0
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Number of frames to encode: 31773, Bitrate = 941kbps
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: xvidcore build version: xvid-1.2.1
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Bitstream version: 1.2.1
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Detected CPU flags: ASM MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 3DNOW 3DNOWEXT TSC
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Detected cpus = 1, threads requested = 1, threads in use = 1
--[Information] Final statistics
---[NoImage] Video Bitrate Desired: 941 kbit/s
---[NoImage] Video Bitrate Obtained (approximate): 1162 kbit/s
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:57:24 PM] Postprocessing
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:57:24 PM] Job completed
-[Information] Log for job6 (mux, South Park s13 e02 720p.avi -> South Park s13 e02 720p-muxed.avi)
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:57:24 PM] Started handling job
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:57:24 PM] Preprocessing
--[NoImage] Job commandline: "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\avimux_gui\avimux_gui.exe" "C:\Documents and Settings\XXX\Local Settings\Temp\tmp33.tmp"
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:57:24 PM] Encoding started
--[NoImage] Standard output stream: Unicode flag: 1
--[NoImage] Standard error stream
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:57:44 PM] Postprocessing
--[Information] [3/28/2009 8:57:44 PM] Job completed

today a tried another South Park episode with the same oversize problem!

here is the log:

[Information] Log
-[Information] Versions
--[NoImage] MeGUI Version : 0.3.1.1022
--[NoImage] OS : Windows XP Professional x86 SP3 (5.1.196608.2600)
--[NoImage] Framework used : 2.0 SP1 (2.0.50727.1433)
-[Information] Hardware
--[NoImage] CPU : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
-[Information] Log for job10 (video, South Park s13 e03 720p.avs -> )
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:07:00 PM] Started handling job
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:07:00 PM] Preprocessing
---[Information] Bitrate calculation for video
----[NoImage] Desired size after subtracting audio: 153679KBs
----[NoImage] Calculated desired bitrate: 949kbit/s
--[NoImage] Job commandline: "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\xvid_encraw\xvid_encraw.exe" -i "F:\x264\South Park s13 e03 720p.avs" -pass1 "F:\x264\South Park s13 e03 720p.stats" -bitrate 949 -kboost 100 -chigh 30 -clow 15 -overhead 0 -turbo -max_key_interval 250 -nopacked -vhqmode 4 -closed_gop -lumimasking -imin 1 -pmin 1 -bvhq -bquant_ratio 162 -bquant_offset 0 -bmin 1 -par 1:1 -threads 1
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:07:01 PM] Encoding started
--[NoImage] Standard output stream
---[NoImage] xvid_encraw - raw mpeg4 bitstream encoder written by Christoph Lampert 2002-2003
---[NoImage] Tot: enctime(ms) =929218.00, length(bytes) = 114875401
---[NoImage] Avg: enctime(ms) = 29.24, fps = 34.21, length(bytes) = 3614
---[NoImage] I frames: 325 frames, size = 39803/ 12936290, quants = 2 / 2.00 / 2
---[NoImage] P frames: 10734 frames, size = 6260/ 67195543, quants = 2 / 2.00 / 2
---[NoImage] B frames: 20716 frames, size = 1677/ 34743519, quants = 3 / 3.00 / 3
---[NoImage] N frames: 7 frames, size = 7/ 49
--[NoImage] Standard error stream
---[NoImage] Trying to retrieve width and height from input header
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Avisynth detected
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Input colorspace is YV12
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Input is 624 x 352, 23.976fps (2500000/104271), starting from frame 0
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Number of frames to encode: 31782, Bitrate = 949kbps
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: xvidcore build version: xvid-1.2.1
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Bitstream version: 1.2.1
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Detected CPU flags: ASM MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 3DNOW 3DNOWEXT TSC
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Detected cpus = 1, threads requested = 1, threads in use = 1
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:22:32 PM] Postprocessing
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:22:32 PM] Job completed
-[Information] Log for job11 (video, South Park s13 e03 720p.avs -> South Park s13 e03 720p.avi)
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:22:32 PM] Started handling job
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:22:32 PM] Preprocessing
--[NoImage] Job commandline: "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\xvid_encraw\xvid_encraw.exe" -i "F:\x264\South Park s13 e03 720p.avs" -pass2 "F:\x264\South Park s13 e03 720p.stats" -bitrate 949 -kboost 100 -chigh 30 -clow 15 -overhead 0 -max_key_interval 250 -nopacked -vhqmode 4 -closed_gop -lumimasking -imin 1 -pmin 1 -bvhq -bquant_ratio 162 -bquant_offset 0 -bmin 1 -par 1:1 -threads 1 -avi "F:\x264\South Park s13 e03 720p.avi"
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:22:33 PM] Encoding started
--[NoImage] Standard output stream
---[NoImage] xvid_encraw - raw mpeg4 bitstream encoder written by Christoph Lampert 2002-2003
---[NoImage] Tot: enctime(ms) =1603479.00, length(bytes) = 193737801
---[NoImage] Avg: enctime(ms) = 50.45, fps = 19.82, length(bytes) = 6095
---[NoImage] I frames: 325 frames, size = 65628/ 21329271, quants = 1 / 1.00 / 1
---[NoImage] P frames: 10739 frames, size = 6547/ 70310139, quants = 1 / 1.88 / 3
---[NoImage] B frames: 20716 frames, size = 4928/ 102098377, quants = 1 / 2.48 / 4
---[NoImage] N frames: 2 frames, size = 7/ 14
--[NoImage] Standard error stream
---[NoImage] Trying to retrieve width and height from input header
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Avisynth detected
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Input colorspace is YV12
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Input is 624 x 352, 23.976fps (2500000/104271), starting from frame 0
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Number of frames to encode: 31782, Bitrate = 949kbps
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: xvidcore build version: xvid-1.2.1
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Bitstream version: 1.2.1
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Detected CPU flags: ASM MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 3DNOW 3DNOWEXT TSC
---[NoImage] xvid [info]: Detected cpus = 1, threads requested = 1, threads in use = 1
--[Information] Final statistics
---[NoImage] Video Bitrate Desired: 949 kbit/s
---[NoImage] Video Bitrate Obtained (approximate): 1173 kbit/s
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:49:24 PM] Postprocessing
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:49:24 PM] Job completed
-[Information] Log for job12 (mux, South Park s13 e03 720p.avi -> South Park s13 e03 720p-muxed.avi)
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:49:24 PM] Started handling job
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:49:24 PM] Preprocessing
--[NoImage] Job commandline: "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\avimux_gui\avimux_gui.exe" "C:\Documents and Settings\XXX\Local Settings\Temp\tmp178C.tmp"
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:49:24 PM] Encoding started
--[NoImage] Standard output stream: Unicode flag: 1
--[NoImage] Standard error stream
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:49:46 PM] Postprocessing
--[Information] [3/29/2009 8:49:46 PM] Job completed

look at highlighted sections!

any suggestions?
_
uhm... no.

Sharktooth
3rd April 2009, 12:47
I am using the "Standalone-Blu-ray" preset and the encoded image is very soft, too soft, I am not sure if it is the preset settings or it is being over compressed, or both.

Anyone else get this?
if you didnt modify the preset rising the deblocking to very high values, then the presets settings cant be the cause of your problem.
:logfile: :script:

Sharktooth
8th April 2009, 14:37
Presets updated: V85

floz23
11th April 2009, 00:05
Sharktooth (or anyone else), can you give me a resource or some tips on where I should begin to improve my streaming mp4 (AVC) encoding profiles?

Right now I'm using the unrestricted quicktime profile with an upped bitrate to 1200kbit. Thats for my HD streams 720p 15fps.

For my SD, I'm using the ipod (not 5g profile) with a bitrate of 500k. So far everything works out pretty well, but I'm sure there are some basic changes I could make to improve things a little more.

All of this is through progressive download to the JwPlayer on my webpage. I will be getting a wowza streaming server soon for all this.

Any help or resources would be very helpful.

thanks all,
-Adam

djesteban
13th April 2009, 18:31
Hi guys,
So I started an encode from a Blu-Ray source, using the Unrestricted 2pass HQ preset. I am not cropping or resizing so that output is the same size as source (keeping it 1080p). Now, the only thing I changed from the HQ preset is the bitrate, which I modified using the Bitrate Calculator (in the Total Size box, I have put a custom value of 8.6GB, which gives me an average bitrate value of 10310 kbit/s for a 2h movie). This changed the value of the bitrate in preset from 1000 (default) to 10310.
In the Input tab, I then choose RAWAVC as a file format, Enqueued job and I did not check Add pre-rendering job; I then started the job in the Queue tab.
Now, I know this is suppose to be a slow process, but now I am wondering if I have done something wrong here, since the first pass took a little over 28h and it is now at around 15% of the second pass and this took 8h, so it's a total of 36h... so I am estimating this is going to take a total of 56h! Is this normal?

Here's the spec of my machine:
1x Intel quad core Q9450 2.66Ghz
8Gb of RAM
GeForce 8800GT
Over 250Gig free on the HDD I am outputting to.

Can anyone tell me if this is normal? If not, what am I doing wrong?

Thank you in advance!

blizzbit
13th April 2009, 22:08
Oops...
Take a look here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1197444#post1197444)...