View Full Version : Nero Recode 3 (Nero 8.2) released
soshiv
29th December 2007, 19:15
Before i go out and purchase Nero 8, could someone clarify if what i am assuming it will do is true...
I have an LG super multi HDDVD/BLURAY drive and would like to archive my movies in 720p to DVD9... so what i am reading is that Recode 3 will take the ripped files and compress them to AVCHD to fit a DVD9 which is burnable on red laser media (DVD9)to be played in a standalone hd-a2 correct?
Kurtnoise
30th December 2007, 11:01
Dunno whether or not it's the right place to post this but : does Nero ShowTime supports UTF-8 chapters filename in mp4 files ? doesn't seem the case here...So, it's a bug or a missing feature ?
:thanks:
CruNcher
30th December 2007, 12:02
It seems Hardware accelleration in Showtime for HD-DVD (VC-1) and Blu-Ray (MPeg-2) with Interactive Menus isn't working with Nvidias 8800 GT and 169.28 can somebody confirm that their are problems with Showtimes Hardware Accelleration when Interactive Menus come into Play on the VMR9 Surfface ? (is really thinking about moving to Vista because of all this Hardware Accelleration Restrictions of DXVA 1.0 and VMR9) i doubt that 50% CPU Utilization should be there with Hardware Accellerating Mpeg-2 on VP2.
Video-Attribut :
Videokomprimierungsmodus :MPEG-2
TV-System : 1088/24
Seitenverhältnis : 16:9
Quellbildauflösung : 1920x1080
Quellbild Letterboxed : Nicht Letterboxed
Audio-Attribut:
Audioanwendungsmodus: Surround
Audioformat : Dolby® Digital
Abtastfrequenz : 48000
Abtastquantifizierung : 16
Anzahl der Audiokanäle : 6
Anzahl der Audiostreams : 3
Subpicture-Attribut :
Anzahl der Untertitel : 4
Filterliste:
Video Mixing Renderer 9
Nero Audio Renderer
Nero Audio Transcoder
Nero Video Decoder HD
Nero Video Decoder HD
Nero InteractiveGraphics Decoder
Nero PresentationGraphics Decoder
Nero Sound Processor
Nero HD Audio Mixer
Nero Sound Processor
Nero Sound Processor
Nero Sound Processor
Nero Audio Decoder 2
Nero Audio Decoder 2
Nero Audio Decoder 2
Nero DVD Navigator
Nero VMR9 Modules
50% Cpu Utilization can't be even for Dolby Digital Sound, i hate this :(
Same here no Hardware Accelleration 50% Cpu
Video-Attribut :
Videokomprimierungsmodus :SMPTE VC1
TV-System : 745/60
Seitenverhältnis : 16:9
Quellbildauflösung : 1280x720
Quellbild Letterboxed : Nicht Letterboxed
Audio-Attribut:
Audioanwendungsmodus: Surround
Audioformat : Dolby® Digital
Abtastfrequenz : 0
Abtastquantifizierung : 0
Anzahl der Audiokanäle : 0
Anzahl der Audiostreams : 2
Subpicture-Attribut :
Anzahl der Untertitel : 0
Filterliste:
Video Mixing Renderer 9
Nero Audio Renderer
Nero Audio Transcoder
Nero Subpicture Decoder
Nero Video Decoder HD
Nero Video Decoder HD
Nero Sound Processor
Nero HD Audio Mixer
Nero Sound Processor
Nero Sound Processor
Nero Sound Processor
Nero Audio Decoder 2
Nero Audio Decoder 2
Nero Audio Decoder 2
Nero DVD Navigator
Nero VMR9 Modules
Playing the .m2ts or .evo alone i get hardware accelleration it's even told so in the OSD that it's active and only maximum of 20% Cpu utilization then dam this ;)
Audio-Attribut:
Audioformat : Dolby® Digital
Abtastquantifizierung : 32
Anzahl der Audiokanäle : 6
Anzahl der Audiostreams : 3
Video-Attribut :
Videokomprimierungsmodus :MPEG-2 High Level (hardware accelerated)
Quellbildauflösung : 1920x1080
Zeilensprungmodus: Progressiv.
Subpicture-Attribut :Nicht verfügbar
Filterliste:
Default DirectSound Device
Video Renderer
Nero Sound Processor
Overlay Mixer
Nero Audio Decoder 2
Nero DVD Decoder
Nero Splitter
Nero File Source (Async.)
But Playing the EVO alone no Hardware Accelleration is shown but CPU Utilization is less then playing it with Menus available jesus
Audio-Attribut:
Audioformat : Dolby® Digital
Abtastquantifizierung : 32
Anzahl der Audiokanäle : 6
Anzahl der Audiostreams : 2
Video-Attribut :
Videokomprimierungsmodus :VC-1 Level 3
Zeilensprungmodus: Progressiv.
Subpicture-Attribut :Nicht verfügbar
Filterliste:
Default DirectSound Device
Video Renderer
Nero Sound Processor
Overlay Mixer
Nero Audio Decoder 2
Nero DVD Decoder
Nero Splitter
Nero File Source (Async.)
So as soon as something (no matter if Subtitles or a Picture OSD) is drawn on the Video Surfface on Windows XP (VMR9) no Hardware Accelleration is available anymore and is this really different with Vista and EVR now ?
Compare it with PowerDVD their it works without Problems 20% CPU Utilization even with Menus
Player-Informationen
Regionalcode des Players: Nicht angegeben
Anzeige-Informationen
Video-Modus: Progressiv
Anzeigemodus: DirectShow
FourCC-Code: NV12
Oberflächentyp: Hardware-Videobeschleuniger (DxVA)
Audioeigenschaften:
Audiocodier-Modus: Dolby Digital
Abtastrate: 48kHz
Anzahl an Audiokanälen: 5.1
Bitrate: 640 Kbps
Hardwareinformationen:
Prozessor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ läuft mit 2827 MHz
3DNow! Technologie: Wird verwendet
Enhanced 3DNow! Technologie: Wird verwendet
3DNow! Professional Technologie: Wird verwendet
IA MMX Technologie: Wird verwendet
IA Streaming SIMD Erweiterungen: Wird verwendet
IA SSE 2: Wird verwendet
Videobeschleuniger: DirectX VA (wird verwendet)
Mehrfachlautsprecher-Audiogerät: Realtek AC97 Audio (wird nicht verwendet)
SPDIF Ausgabegerät: Nicht erkannt
Im really amazed by their Coding abilities however they do it they do it the right way (i mean the Player Filters are another case ok the extreme buffering is not that nice @ all too ;) )
But all the Players have their Problems it seems strangely only with HD-DVD Menus Blu-Ray Menus works on both without Problems but HD-DVD Menus are problematic (Navigation in Showtime works on one with the Keyboard in PowerDVD not with the Keyboard but with the Mouse only Problem it seems the hotspots are not correctly selected jesus :D )
gwaitsi
31st December 2007, 17:17
This can normally only happen if you specify that you want to split the output file, but as I understand you didn't do this!? As before, would be great if you could provide the details.
mediator, think you miss understood. this is not splitting from the end of the movie. this is like a chunk from within the middle of the movie.
i copied 4 of my backups using dvd decrytper it happened on all four videos.
The only thing i can perhaps stear you to is, these backups are a bit worse for wear and sometimes have trouble playing, thus, dvd decrypter has a lot of retries, etc. However, i have previously converted these movies using the recode 8.1.4 and had no problems.
Same goes for the movies for the videos with the 2nd pass crashes.
It would seem the latest version of recode does not handle issues with the source video very well as compared to recode 2.
i would suggest you need to create some tests with videos that have issues i.e. such as skipping, glitches, etc.
p.s. this was one of the reasons i converted my movies with recode 2, to allow be to play some of my discs that got stuck part way through the movie. till now, this has worked very well.
p.p.s i also double checked mister_handy's point about switching profiles. does not work if you have no audio stream. i.e. video with non-recognised audio like dts
mister_handy
1st January 2008, 09:47
p.p.s i also double checked mister_handy's point about switching profiles. does not work if you have no audio stream. i.e. video with non-recognised audio like dts
The ones coming up as "disabled" on mine should all be supported - just plain AC3 2ch or 5.1. Once I played with the profiles, it did do the transcoding OK although the declining bit rate issue meant that the output files weren't useable.
gwaitsi
1st January 2008, 09:55
output splitting.
Did some more testing and it seems there is a bug with the "Fit to Target" check box.
- I checked fit to target
- change the target size
- uncheck fit to target
The encoded video is still split according to the target size in the box despite the box being unchecked
gwaitsi
1st January 2008, 10:34
Not sure how you wanted me to provide the attributes of the video, but straight dvd copy and crashes exactly at beginning of second pass
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: Recode.exe
Application Version: 3.0.3.0
Application Timestamp: 475500fa
Fault Module Name: ndaudio.dll
Fault Module Version: 5.1.34.111
Fault Module Timestamp: 471ee6f4
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 000515c5
OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.256.1
Locale ID: 3081
Additional Information 1: 8d13
Additional Information 2: cdca9b1d21d12b77d84f02df48e34311
Additional Information 3: 8d13
Additional Information 4: cdca9b1d21d12b77d84f02df48e34311
Have further checked. by using the AC3 -> mp4 for the audio selection, this now works.
So there seems to be an issue converting DD5.1 to AAC on the 2nd pass. This did works with recode 2.
I have a number of videos previously encoded in recode 2 which fail the same way with recode 3.
gwaitsi
1st January 2008, 10:37
disable all audio to only recode video. the video appears disabled and you can't enabled. per my previous comments with bad audio track i.e. dts
weaver4
2nd January 2008, 17:28
Does Nero Recode 8 support Single Pass Constant Quality (crf)?
mediator
2nd January 2008, 20:03
@weaver4:
Recode doesn't support constant quality encodings, mostly because an important concept of the whole app is being able to estimate the target file size(s). In constant quality (constant quantizer) mode, you'll also not be able to know what AVC level you end up with, which may introduce problems with certain playback devices. Nevertheless I understand your very valid request for this feature. Let's just see if something can be done...
@gwaitsi:
crash on 2nd pass
after countless attempts the crash on 2nd pass could be reproduced. We found that it seems to happen extremely rarely. The exact code-point of the crash is identified and I am confident that the next release of Recode will not have this issue anymore.
output splitting
ok, so you know what to do to avoid the problem and we also do know what we have to do ;)
@mister_handy:
declining bitrate issue is going to be checked
motion-adaptive framerate issue was not reproducible so far. Maybe you can post your type of CPU and the specific video properties (resolution, framerate)
@Kurtnoise13:
chapter names should be utf-8 iirc, is going to be doublechecked.
@Psythorn:
PS3 profile second audio track issue is currently being resolved.
I hope all issues will be ironed out in the next release. Thank you all very much for your feedback! :thanks:
gwaitsi
2nd January 2008, 22:54
hi mediator,
one more in case you didn't pick it up already through all the other feedback.
If no audio is selected, or an invalid audio track is present, the video to encode is disabled and can't be enabled.
In other words, it does not appear possible to encode video only.
keep up the good work...
p.s. wish list item. able to save custom profile settings i.e. you've changed audio to default LC-AAC 224k where it used to be AAC-HE 128k, i wish to be able to create my default preferences without have to reset every video.
kozak
2nd January 2008, 23:10
@Mediator:
Thanks for your summary. Here is more feedback:
Can Frames/sec statistic be moderately averaged, say over 1 minute window? It seems Recode 2 calculated it over all time (such that the statistic provided no information at all about *current* encoding speed, if computer load changes); but Recode 3 gives instantaneous speed (on my system constantly jumping in the range 30fps - 150 fps on the first pass), which also provides no useful information.
A few requests, that you could pass on, if possible:
1. This should be simple: provide a window to directly type in final file size in megabytes, rather than have to go through Fit to Target / Select Custom / Ok multiple clicks. Also, I don't see why there is a minimum 30MB file size. Doesn't help if encoding a very small file.
2. Very desired by language learner: it would be nice to be able to encode 3 languages and/or 3 subtitles, not just two. Four would be even better, but three will satisfy 80% of the need.
3. Finally, some updated extended help for encoding options would be nice (maybe it's already available).
mediator
3rd January 2008, 12:09
@Kurtnoise13:
Indeed, UTF-8 Chapter names are not handled correctly in ShowTime. I'm going to address this. Thanks for that hint.
@gwaitsi:
I just didn't include the "video disabled"-thing in the list. It is nevertheless going to be fixed.
@all:
All your comments are recognized and welcome. So thanks again!
gwaitsi
3rd January 2008, 17:31
mediator
if you are working on utf for showtime, then you might also add utf support for meta tags.
i presently convert my cd's with foobar2000 and the free nero audio encoder which allows me to create an mp4 album with song chapters and cover art.
track information is in utf and showtime does not recognise this.
also,
when is there going to be an x64 version of recode. i thought video encoding is one of the things that can benefit the most from x64?
cheers
gnutellafan
3rd January 2008, 22:00
mediator, thanks for the recode update. As a user with much less knowledge then many people here I would like to make some requests regarding clarification of the profiles or maybe some feedback from the program when choosing different settings. Does it make sense to choose HD profile for encoding DVD source material? My goal is to get as transparent (looks as much like original as possible) at the lowest possible bitrate (quality is more important to me then size, but the end result should have some benefit, ie significant size reduction). There is no obvious way for a person like me to obtain these results or know what to select and I consider myself much more knowledgeable then the average user.
gwaitsi
4th January 2008, 17:19
another one for ja.
recode 3 doesn't recognise .srt files from subrip 1.5
sysKin
5th January 2008, 14:44
Hi everyone -- not really related to the topic of Recode and its AVC, but perhaps you can answer this: did anyone manage TV audio playback in Nero Home when audio is ac3?
I just have no sound if it's ac3. Recording stream to file and playing later on works fine, sound is back.
recode 3 doesn't recognise .srt files from subrip 1.5
SRT files are recognized by searching for "00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,000" type of time coding. Does subrip do something different?
gwaitsi
5th January 2008, 20:02
below is the extract from the subrip .srt file.
"1" is the very first character.
1
00:00:52,679 --> 00:00:56,410
This is the conclusive Kidnap and Ransom
Report for Mr. Pierre Lenoir.
2
00:00:56,850 --> 00:00:58,647
Location: Chechnya.
sysKin
6th January 2008, 10:36
below is the extract from the subrip .srt file.
"1" is the very first character.
1
00:00:52,679 --> 00:00:56,410
This is the conclusive Kidnap and Ransom
Report for Mr. Pierre Lenoir.
2
00:00:56,850 --> 00:00:58,647
Location: Chechnya.
Theory says that this should be detected and read correctly.
Are you sure the problem is not somewhere else (subtitle not loaded because its filename is wrong, maybe).
gwaitsi
6th January 2008, 15:55
hi syskin,
i choose the option to subrip to save in unicode. this didn't seem to work. when i saved in ansi or utf-8 seemed to work.
however, showtime still doesn't show the .srt stream even when encoded with recode.
gwaitsi
7th January 2008, 07:55
i can add there is still something not right.
using recode 3 to encode with srt subtitles give a file that displays the subtitles in both show time and media player (via ffdshow).
however, showtime does not show srt subtitles from other containers i.e. yamb.
so, if you demux the recode 3 file and remux with yamb the srt subtitles are no longer visible in showtime, although they are still visible in media player.
dvd_maniac
9th January 2008, 00:30
Can recode3, or 2 for that matter, hardcode forced subtitles?
Psythorn
9th January 2008, 10:15
@all:
All your comments are recognized and welcome. So thanks again!
This is indeed great news and I hope you (or ahead) keeps it this way. There are many examples of companies (or developers) that started to "hide" from their customers when things got rough - which can happen fast...
So I salute you...
This said - can you give us a hint of when approximately we will see an update ? I'm mainly interested in the "2. pass issue" ...
singaporeguy
10th January 2008, 08:12
I tested the new version and found it to be a bit confusing as compared to Recode 2. I'm not too clear on all the technical terms and options. I hope to stick to settings which duplicates that what I got in Recode 2 to produce mp4 files that play well on my PS3. In Recode 2, my settings were quite simple:
* in the first screen, I stick to the High Definition TV profile, set target size (e.g. 2300MB) accordingly in order to achieve encodind bit rate of extimated 2.9M/s, choose the audio tracks that I want (and set to high volume)
* in the 2nd screen, I choose: extra quality, 2 pass encoding, simple profile
In Recode3:
* there seems to be many more settings which confused me as I can't seem to get excatly all the setting from the 2 steps above. Can someone help me with the appropriate settings to match what I did above?
* When I tried to guess some settings to best match what I did in Recode 2, something weird happened. I produce files that are MUCH too small compared to my target size. E.g. If I choose target size of 2300MB, I would expect a file to be around that size, not a resulting mp4 file that is much smaller than 2000MB (that is a big difference).
* I don't seem to see PS3 profile from the update that I downloaded from Nero
* I choose high quality and encoding time was much longer that in Recode 2
mediator
10th January 2008, 08:52
@Psythorn: the update which (among other things) fixes the reported 2-pass issues is planned to be released with the next Nero-version that is going to be put on the web. It's quite a couple of weeks (cannot be more specific atm, unfortunately). I'm looking if something quicker can be arranged. Cannot promise, though.
@singaporeguy:
PS3 profile is visible after selecting the Sony profile group. One vs. Two-pass setting is on the right side of the main window (where you import your files). Quality is a video encoder setting, so you can modify it in the dialog that shows up when your press "Encoder..." in the tab for the video track.
Actually, the idea was that this should be less confusing then having the video encoder options entirely separate, as it was before.
gwaitsi
10th January 2008, 09:50
mediator:
i find it less confusing, but annoying i can't save my settings i.e.
i normally use 1.56m/bps, aac-he 128k (like recode 2) and now the encoder precision to best and have to reset set everything for each video.
when we gonna have an x64 version?
singaporeguy:
i encode per the above with the nero digital AVC settings.
with 1.56m/bps and aac-he 128k, precision good i get approx the same file size as recode 2 i.e. 1.6Gb for a 2hr movie.
by changing the encoder precision to best, the file size reduces to 1.2Gb but take 2-3/hrs on my machine AMD X2 4800+, 4GB.
I choose size over speed.
re PS3, i am streaming over wireless and Recode 3 files stream better than recode 2. (don't think it matters with wired connection).
my PC transmit throughput is at 5-7m/bps and both ND and PS3 profile in Recode 3 stream (realiably with TVersity), unfortunately nero media doesn't seem to be efficient enough in processing and causes stops/starts as it doesn't seem to be able to maintain the wireless throughput.
If you still want to use the Recode 2 profiles there is an option in the "options" tab to do that, but you don't then have access to the Recode 3 profiles.
gwaitsi
10th January 2008, 09:57
of yeh....and when is there going to be a plugin for Sony Vegas.....there is one for Adobe Premiere.
mediator
10th January 2008, 15:38
by changing the encoder precision to best, the file size reduces to 1.2Gb but take 2-3/hrs on my machine AMD X2 4800+, 4GB.
Hmmmm, the precision shouldn't really impact the target bitrate. Do you experience this problem with with 1-pass encodings?
Bigmango
10th January 2008, 16:49
Any news on 720p AVCHD support in vision ?
And custom AVC bitrates lower than the forced minimum of 12000 ?
Is this planed ?
gwaitsi
10th January 2008, 18:10
Hmmmm, the precision shouldn't really impact the target bitrate. Do you experience this problem with with 1-pass encodings?
mediator, will check over the weekend for you. i don't normally use 1-pass. maybe it is related to the 2pass issue with the reducing bit rate - per one of the earlier posts
gwaitsi
11th January 2008, 21:14
Hmmmm, the precision shouldn't really impact the target bitrate. Do you experience this problem with with 1-pass encodings?
Machine Specs 4Gb, AMD X2 4800+
I did encode tests as follows:
Source: Proof of Life DD5.1 2hr15
HE-AAC 128k, 1.56M/bps, cropped, resize disabled, no size limit
1-pass, good encoder precision
Size 1.6Gb - 150k bigger than best precision. Duration 2.5hrs
1-pass, best encoder precision
Size 1.6Gb - Duration 2.5hrs
2-pass, good encoder precision
Size 1.6Gb - Duration 3hrs ** AC3 crash on start of 2nd pass per previous post
- diabled audio, enabled subtitles (to enable video), encoded video & subs
- encoder audio with free audio encoder
- remuxed with yamb
2-pass, best encoder precision
Size 1.2Gb - Duration 3hrs ** AC3 crash on start of 2nd pass per previous post
- diabled audio, enabled subtitles (to enable video), encoded video & subs
- encoder audio with free audio encoder
- remuxed with yamb
can't notice difference between the two 2nd pass encodes.
p.s. i have other vids i have done with the same result. some fail on 2nd pass, others works first time.
they all have the same result approx 300mg smaller when encoder precision set to best.
thegeby
13th January 2008, 09:08
Would it be too much to ask for ts as a source file, including "h264 in ts"?
bnz
16th January 2008, 13:18
hi nero guys,
i'd like to second thegeby's request. There is especially some kind of incompatibility with the Haali Splitter. Once the Haali Splitter is installed, a ts file with h264 is denied and cannot be openend. When i uninstall Haali, it is actually accepted by Recode (though i had multiple crashes with my HD TV recordings). It would be fantstic if Recode would be able to handle such files properly.
Psythorn
16th January 2008, 15:58
Ah... Just one thing got into my mind...
@ahead/nero:
My personal holy grail would it be to be able to recode a vob (dvd) to mp4 or m2ts or whatever...
... with working ...
- multiple ac3/dts audio (_not_ aac )
- subtitles
- chapters
... on a ps3.
I know that ahead might be interested to "push" the nero-digital format for stand alone players. But sony supporting nero-digital (inculding higher profiles) ? Don't think that will happen...
But if nero recode would be able to do this trick - I would stop looking for other tools right now :p
(Or if ahead could convince sony to support all this ]:-> )
Another thing is: I KNOW that it does seem make no sense to inculde one audio track multiple times... But maybe I would like to include a track in 2-channel for now and in multi-channel for times to come (when i get an av-receiver able to handle it)...
kikkervis
16th January 2008, 21:33
Hi,
There is an issue I would like to emphasize on, that has already been addressed by mister_handy. When encoding a number of files I would like to set the same options, audio options and bit rate for all files at once. It seems to me like a simple feature but one that is still absent from recode.
Will Nero support constant quality (like –crf in x264) ? I want to encode my home video’s at a good quality without using to math disk space. The actual bit rate is not that important, but is the only thing I can set in recode.
And a small interface remark. When testing I recoded the same video a couple of times. But only the first time a 2-pass is done. I assume that this is a simple optimization strategy, but it would be nice if this showed in the log file, because for hours I thought that something was wrong with doing a 2-pass encoding.
Will recode support x64?
gwaitsi
17th January 2008, 06:03
Psythorn
Recode 3 supports multiple ac3, not sure about the PS3 because i use AAC. Recode supports multi subtitles and chapters.
PS3 doesn't support chapters but supports vobsub subtitles.
Psythorn
17th January 2008, 09:58
Recode 3 supports multiple ac3, not sure about the PS3 because i use AAC. Recode supports multi subtitles and chapters.
The PS3 doesn't like mp4-files with h264 and ac3 audio. Also it is able to play divx/xvid-files with multiple ac3, h264 (avc) + ac3 does not work (right now).
About the chapter support: The PS3 does support chapters on dvds and blue rays - so why should there be no way to get it working using another container ? As far as I know nero recode stores the chapters in an "user-definable" part of the mp4-container. So it's proprietary...
PS3 doesn't support chapters but supports vobsub subtitles.
Did you get that to work ?
My dream is to recode in nero recode and to remux it to work on the ps3... So only two tools would be needed...
Someone tried that ?
wabbster
17th January 2008, 23:55
I have many mp4 with ac3 running fine to my ps3 and I stream them to. The problem with the ps3 is the 4gb file limit with mp4 files with ac3 audio. If the file is larger than 4gb after nero recode is done just use yamb and spilt it under the 4gb limit. This works well for 720p and 1080p mp4 files.
The PS3 doesn't like mp4-files with h264 and ac3 audio. Also it is able to play divx/xvid-files with multiple ac3, h264 (avc) + ac3 does not work (right now).
About the chapter support: The PS3 does support chapters on dvds and blue rays - so why should there be no way to get it working using another container ? As far as I know nero recode stores the chapters in an "user-definable" part of the mp4-container. So it's proprietary...
Did you get that to work ?
My dream is to recode in nero recode and to remux it to work on the ps3... So only two tools would be needed...
Someone tried that ?
Psythorn
18th January 2008, 00:14
I have many mp4 with ac3 running fine to my ps3 and I stream them to. The problem with the ps3 is the 4gb file limit with mp4 files with ac3 audio. If the file is larger than 4gb after nero recode is done just use yamb and spilt it under the 4gb limit. This works well for 720p and 1080p mp4 files.
No... Filesize is not the matter... The files are <4Gb ...
The problem is definetly avc vs. asp ...
Once again... divx/xvid video + ac3 audio does work pefectly... So would nero ASP - I presume... Also I have to admit: I did not try it...
Nero H264 and ac3 audio does not work. PS3 just doesn't even start... Incompatible File Format or something like that...
Nero H264 + AAC does work... So I'm sure it has something to do with AC3 Audio...
Sure you are talking of AVC (h264) Video and not of ASP Video ?
rollier
18th January 2008, 20:38
Hi
I'm using the latest version of Nero Recode 3 to encode movies using H264@2Mb/s and AAC audio at 48KHz, 224Kb/s. The audio is garbled (sounds like it's from down a toilet!) – I’ve tried this on various players. If I keep the same settings but just encode a few chapters, the audio is perfect. If I change to 24KHz everything is ok (but I want to encode at 48Kkz for quality and compatibility). I assume this is a bug – has anyone else noticed it and is there a fix available? Thanks, Rob
[I had a look at the problem streams in MP4Box and it shows that they are only encoded at 70kb/s - so this looks like a bug] Unfortunately, Nero aren't replying to my support email.
kikkervis
19th January 2008, 00:40
Hello mediator,
Could you do me a favor. If you have read my remark (One that mister_handy already made) could you please give your opinion? I have been asking for this to Nero for many years using the helpdesk channels and have been through doom9 (previous account). I would be great to know if this is an option for you.
wabbster
19th January 2008, 02:43
The video is DD 5.1 and AAC5.1 , the DD5.1 is ac3.
They are mp4 h624 with 5.1 audio that works great on the ps3.
No... Filesize is not the matter... The files are <4Gb ...
The problem is definetly avc vs. asp ...
Once again... divx/xvid video + ac3 audio does work pefectly... So would nero ASP - I presume... Also I have to admit: I did not try it...
Nero H264 and ac3 audio does not work. PS3 just doesn't even start... Incompatible File Format or something like that...
Nero H264 + AAC does work... So I'm sure it has something to do with AC3 Audio...
Sure you are talking of AVC (h264) Video and not of ASP Video ?
simonhowson
19th January 2008, 10:36
I'm wondering if the iPod Video profile supports anamorphic encoding?
I just read this from a review of iTunes 7.6 (http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/instant-expert-secrets-features-of-itunes-76/)
rented movie content now takes advantage of anamorphic encoding supported by the iPod and iTunes in order to provide a higher vertical resolution at the standard 640x480 maximum (the video file shown above has an actual resolution of 640x356, but is using anamorphic encoding to provide a proper widescreen presentation).
I'm wondering if the iPod Video profile in Recode 3 supports anamorphic files?
Psythorn
21st January 2008, 09:36
The video is DD 5.1 and AAC5.1 , the DD5.1 is ac3.
They are mp4 h624 with 5.1 audio that works great on the ps3.
Thats strange since I found severeal posts that indicate that h264+ac3 is only possible if transported in a vob or m2ts stream instead of mp4 ...
I tried h264+ac3 using nero recode several times... no file was playable - unsupported format...
What settings do you use to encode ?
mister_handy
24th January 2008, 03:41
@mister_handy:
motion-adaptive framerate issue was not reproducible so far. Maybe you can post your type of CPU and the specific video properties (resolution, framerate)
Sorry for the late reply; in case this is still useful:
CPU: Intel Q6600/2.4x4
OS: Vista Business, no service packs
Video was from a NTSC DVD source - 720x480/4:3/interlaced/29.97/6.05MBps average. I'm pretty sure I tried another disc with 720x480/16:9/progressive 29.97fps as well but I don't have those sources around to double check what they were.
Gannjunior
24th January 2008, 13:18
"An error occurred in directshow. Failed to run graph."
That is the error that i get when i load this script:
LoadPlugin("E:\Software\AviSynthPlugins\DGAVCDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\GordianKnot\AviSynthPlugins\UnDot.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\Convolution3d.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\SimpleResize.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\NicAudio.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\ac3source.dll")
video=AVCSource("I:\azureus\Prison.Break.S03E02.Fire.Water.720p-HDTV.x264.AC3-CTU_DGA.dga").Tweak(sat=1).Convolution3d("moviehq").SimpleResize(768,432).Undot()
audio=NicAC3Source("I:\azureus\Prison.Break.S03E02.Fire.Water.720p-HDTV.x264.AC3-CTU_track1.ac3")
finale=audiodub(video,audio).trim(0,1000)
return finale
I see the problem ONLY during AVC encoding setting the 2 pass . The is shown also leaving in the scrip the video stream with no audio. Launching a single pass, the encoding works fine with no errors. (and also no problem if i choose the second pass but of nero ASP...).
The log file:
Burn settings:
Target: Hard disk folder
Number of copies: 1
Target folder: C:\Users\lorenzo\Documents\Nero Recode (25147527168 bytes free)
Shutdown when finished: false
Advanced Analysis: false
Compress Adaptive: false
02:33:46 File BurnNDigital.cpp, Line 244
NeroDigital: init
02:33:46 File BurnNDigital.cpp, Line 342
NeroDigital: burning 0 sectors (0 required)
02:33:46 File BurnNDigital.cpp, Line 423
NeroDigital: beginning 1st-pass operation
02:33:46 File BurnNDigital.cpp, Line 954
NeroDigital: encode PB_s3_02
02:33:46 File BurnNDigital.cpp, Line 975
Nth-pass file = C:\Users\lorenzo\AppData\Local\Temp\\PB_s3_02a03972.bin
The source filter/splitter does not accept SetPositions!
02:33:46 File BurnNDigital.cpp, Line 1076
failed to run graph: 0x80040207
02:33:46 File BurnNDigital.cpp, Line 828
An error occurred in DirectShow. Failed to run graph.
02:33:46 File BurnNDigital.cpp, Line 829
NeroDigital: compiling volume failed
02:33:46 File BurnNDigital.cpp, Line 284
NeroDigital: exit
02:33:46 File burner.cpp, Line 1729
An error occurred in DirectShow. Failed to run graph.
any idea?
thanks,
ciao!
glb
24th January 2008, 21:14
"An error occurred in directshow. Failed to run graph."
video=AVCSource("I:\azureus\Prison.Break.S03E02.Fire.Water.720p-HDTV.x264.AC3-CTU_DGA.dga").Tweak(sat=1).Convolution3d("moviehq").SimpleResize(768,432).Undot()
This board has a rule that we aren't supposed to help anyone having problems with downloaded files.
odditory
25th January 2008, 00:39
This board has a rule that we aren't supposed to help anyone having problems with downloaded files.
Except in this case its just a dumb TV show thats available from the broadcaster's website anyway. Most TV stations let you download their TV shows after they've aired.
Gannjunior
26th January 2008, 12:07
"An error occurred in directshow. Failed to run graph."
That is the error that i get when i load this script:
LoadPlugin("E:\Software\AviSynthPlugins\DGAVCDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\GordianKnot\AviSynthPlugins\UnDot.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\Convolution3d.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\SimpleResize.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\NicAudio.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\ac3source.dll")
video=AVCSource("I:\hd_video_720p_source.dga").Tweak(sat=1).Convolution3d("moviehq").SimpleResize(768,432).Undot()
audio=NicAC3Source("I:\audio_5.1.ac3")
finale=audiodub(video,audio).trim(0,1000)
return finale
I see this problem ONLY during AVC encoding setting the 2 pass . The is shown also leaving in the script the video stream with no audio. Launching a single pass, the encoding works fine with no errors. (and also no problem if i choose the second pass but of nero ASP...).
The log file:
Burn settings:
Target: Hard disk folder
Number of copies: 1
Target folder: C:\Users\lorenzo\Documents\Nero Recode (25147527168 bytes free)
Shutdown when finished: false
Advanced Analysis: false
Compress Adaptive: false
02:33:46 File BurnNDigital.cpp, Line 244
NeroDigital: init
02:33:46 File BurnNDigital.cpp, Line 342
NeroDigital: burning 0 sectors (0 required)
02:33:46 File BurnNDigital.cpp, Line 423
NeroDigital: beginning 1st-pass operation
02:33:46 File BurnNDigital.cpp, Line 954
NeroDigital: encode PB_s3_02
02:33:46 File BurnNDigital.cpp, Line 975
Nth-pass file = C:\Users\lorenzo\AppData\Local\Temp\\PB_s3_02a03972.bin
The source filter/splitter does not accept SetPositions!
02:33:46 File BurnNDigital.cpp, Line 1076
failed to run graph: 0x80040207
02:33:46 File BurnNDigital.cpp, Line 828
An error occurred in DirectShow. Failed to run graph.
02:33:46 File BurnNDigital.cpp, Line 829
NeroDigital: compiling volume failed
02:33:46 File BurnNDigital.cpp, Line 284
NeroDigital: exit
02:33:46 File burner.cpp, Line 1729
An error occurred in DirectShow. Failed to run graph.
any idea?
thanks,
ciao!
any idea? :)
bhigh
28th January 2008, 20:47
Is there any estimate when an update for Recode 3 will be available?
I'm primarily concerned with the 2-pass bitrate falloff, since I prefer to use 2-pass on all videos.
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