Guide: Decrypt Blu-Ray Movies with a PS3 WITHOUT keys

[awx]

Isn't this because otheros.self has been implemented directly into the PS3 firmware? Now all you can use is otheros.bld? Are you using otheros.self with 1.7 or 1.8?

[CZroe]

Isn't this because otheros.self has been implemented directly into the PS3 firmware? Now all you can use is otheros.bld? Are you using otheros.self with 1.7 or 1.8?

FW1.51 here because Paradox claimed that it is still exploitable and I am willing to wait. No documentation mentioned a minimum FW requirement though Sony's Open Platform page said that you must have FW 1.6 or higher for the installer (not true). The otheros.self "Installer" that I found instead claimed that something like FW1.1 or 1.3 was the minimum FW for using an "Other OS" with this installer (v1.0).

BTW, the only additional progress I've had time for is concatenating the files into one image on an NTFS drive. I don't have a Vista machine so my brother is taking the drive to work to see what we can do from here.

Now, is it true that there is no way to playback BD/HD-DVD images in Windows XP, even if you have AnyDVD installed? I was sure that the HDCP/Vista restriction was lifted by AnyDVD, right? So my question is, if so, what player supports this under Windows XP?

[eousphoros]

FW1.51 here because Paradox claimed that it is still exploitable and I am willing to wait. No documentation mentioned a minimum FW requirement though Sony's Open Platform page said that you must have FW 1.6 or higher for the installer (not true). The otheros.self "Installer" that I found instead claimed that something like FW1.1 or 1.3 was the minimum FW for using an "Other OS" with this installer (v1.0).

BTW, the only additional progress I've had time for is concatenating the files into one image on an NTFS drive. I don't have a Vista machine so my brother is taking the drive to work to see what we can do from here.

Now, is it true that there is no way to playback BD/HD-DVD images in Windows XP, even if you have AnyDVD installed? I was sure that the HDCP/Vista restriction was lifted by AnyDVD, right? So my question is, if so, what player supports this under Windows XP?

Forcing yourself to stay at 1.51 is silly esp when they have nand programmers out now that will downgrade your ps3 if this supposed exploit ever comes out. Linux is a snap to install on 1.8 plus you get upscaled dvd's and upscaled ps1/ps2 games. And powerdvd plays hddvd images fine

[Viper8896]

has anyone tried using anydvd with wine. that way the whole dd creating the iso could be skipped out.

[CZroe]

Edit: Oops. I meant to copy/paste this into a PM.

Forcing yourself to stay at 1.51 is silly esp when they have nand programmers out now that will downgrade your ps3 if this supposed exploit ever comes out. Linux is a snap to install on 1.8 plus you get upscaled dvd's and upscaled ps1/ps2 games.

Yes, I am familiar with the benefits of 1.8 FW, and because I am using my PS3 primarily as a PStwo and Blu-Ray player, it's more relevant to me than those who actually bought it to play PS3 games. However, I'm still not sure that upgrading is the smart thing to do when the primary benefit is upscaling. My XBR image processor upscales to 1080p well enough, though the images I've seen of the PS2 upscaling look much better.

You mean there are PS3 Linux utilities that can access the entire flash and write to it? With the PSP, it took forever before that was possible (large parts of the flashmemory were flashable, yes), and I would assume that the Hypervisor is allowing it access only to a very specific part of it (or a virtualized flash area). Unless there is a Hypervisor exploit for FW1.8? I was surprised that the forums I frequent were blissfully unaware of things like SAK and "Sony PS3 Other OS Installer," but I would not have imagined them to be this far behind.

Is a PS3 FW downgrade actually possible already without taking out the chips or using a test clip?

And powerdvd plays hddvd images fine

Edit: I've done some research and the downgrade is not yet possible without brute force (removing or socketing chips or using equipment such as test clips). I am not willing to open a $600 PS3 and rip parts out until the warranty is expired, so upgrading to 1.8 is not an option until A) An exploit for 1.51 is proven to not be possible or B) an exploit for 1.8 appears or C) The PS3 price floor drops out and the things become practically disposable (HA!). I'm perfectly willing to tolerate PStwo games as they were meant to be played (without upscaling) and the Resistance Fall of Man "exploit" will allow me to play most FW1.52+ games.

And another update on my rip progress: My PowerDVD version is incorrect for POTC:COTBP, but it does playback other BD images mounted in Nero Image Drive just fine... well, "just fine" if you like slide-shows. Should it be less than a frame per second on a Pentium 4 3.2GHz CPU with 2GB system memory and a 1050p 16:10 monitor (lower-resolution than the material)? I haven't done anything with the AnyDVD HD rip results yet for any of my rips because I have no BD burner and I don't know how to remaster it into something that'll play back from split-up DVD9 discs or a HDD connected to the PS3.

[pointvu]

seems the infectus downgrader is being on sold on mrmodchips. and you connect the chip via usb to downgrade. if anybody has bought it, and tried to downgrade, would like to know how well it works.

[CZroe]

seems the infectus downgrader is being on sold on mrmodchips. and you connect the chip via usb to downgrade. if anybody has bought it, and tried to downgrade, would like to know how well it works.

Actually, it must attach to your NAND flash chips directly. The USB port is for your PC to connect to the chip and perform the dump and flash processes. It is equivalent to using a TSOP test clip + chip documentation to read and flash your NAND chips except it is much more difficult to attach. Unfortunately, you can't just upgrade your firmware and then buy this if there is ever a need to downgrade. It requires a dump of your own NAND flash to downgrade to! It's not a "downgrader" at all. It's just a "rewinder" for risk-takers who bought it before needing it.

I see no resason to split anything unless you are set on using sak. My process
1:Copy movie to an external usb hard drive in linux on ps3(many tutorials on this)
2:Go to pc and install ext2fs and Anydvd (Mentioned earlier in this thread)
3:Plug usb hard drive into pc and mount .iso file with nero or dameons tools
4:Decrypt movie
5:Install Red Kawas File Server
6:Go back to ps3 xmb and use the ps3'2 internet browser to "download" the main movie file (.m2ts) to your ps3

The setup for the file server is pretty straight forward, just follow the directions it gives you. This works for avc and mpeg2 but not vc-1. Just trying to be a little helpful
http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=2974&page=5
My PS3 doesn't show a thing when I type in my IP address. Before I start trying to diagnose network and firewall problems, let me just ask: Is there a minimum firmware for this method? I'm on 1.51. :)

[ps3hacker]

You must have the file server installed and running on the puter you want to transfer files from. Install this http://www.redkawa.com/fileserver/download/windows/index.phpis

Once its running it will tell you what ip adress and port number you must type in your ps3's net browser. Type that address in and you should be able to access all of your files on your pc.
You must set up your download directory,also. This can be don on your pc. Go to "Launch file sever" in red kawas file server. Than go to settings ang add dir.
Side note: When the ps3 does not let you download .m2ts files directly to ps3. A workaround for this is to name them .mp4. This will let you download straight to ps3 hard drive. Also, when downloading more than 4gb, the ps3 says 100 percent at the 4 gb mark and it seems like it hangs, but just give it more time. If it is a 16gb movie it will take 4 times as long as it says.20gb 5 times

[psme]

1. Install SAK (Swiss Army Knife) to the PS3 OtherOS and boot into it. [You can find it at disreputable sites like PS3news.com.] I use the network connection and do it via the ps3 instead of the web browser and transfer the ISO over the network. You can hook up a FAT32 hard drive and get the ISO that way as well.


What exactly does this "do it via the ps3 instead of" mean?

From the SAK page http://www.ps3news.com/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=3670 it say:

• Web Interface (via HTTP) that lets you do all of the below featured!
• Check Blu-Ray Disk size
• Format internal PS3 HDD
• Back-up iSO to internal PS3 HDD
• Back-up iSO to external EXT3 HDD
• Back-up iSO via wired network, to Windows Network Share

So SAK web interface should already rip BD in ISO to internal/external/network. So why should one "do it via the ps3 instead of the web browser"?

Thanks in advance.

regards,

Li On

[CZroe]

What exactly does this "do it via the ps3 instead of" mean?

From the SAK page http://www.ps3news.com/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=3670 it say:

• Web Interface (via HTTP) that lets you do all of the below featured!
• Check Blu-Ray Disk size
• Format internal PS3 HDD
• Back-up iSO to internal PS3 HDD
• Back-up iSO to external EXT3 HDD
• Back-up iSO via wired network, to Windows Network Share

So SAK web interface should already rip BD in ISO to internal/external/network. So why should one "do it via the ps3 instead of the web browser"?

Thanks in advance.

regards,

Li On

It doesn't really make much sense. He's saying that all of the features below "Web Interface (via HTTP) that lets you do all of the below featured!" can be controlled remotely by a PC with the web browser interface, but that can also be used with a USB keyboard connected to the PS3. Until you pointed it out, I kinda thought that the web interface was just an alternative for the "Back-up iSO via wired network, to Windows Network Share" feature (via HTTP or FTP download).

Too slow for my tastes. I much prefer an external USB hard drive.

[ndjr]

Does the SAK work with the 1.82v PS3 firmware???

[ndjr]

Anyone there???

[Humpa]

Anyone there???I'm here, I just don't know the answer to your question. But I don't see why not. You can install another OS on 1.82 just like any other version - YellowDog works exactly the same for me, so I don't know why SAK wouldn't.

[ndjr]

hmm, I can`t get it to work, I must try a little harder then

[ndjr]

I just can`t get it to work! have anyone successfully made a copy a blu-ray movie with firmware 1.82 ????

this is all a get, then nothing happens



Backup Blu-Ray to device at /dev/sdd

Selected /dev/sdd - Checking for partition now
Found our Hard Disk - /dev/sdd !
Enough Space To Backup!


Initializing to backup - This will complete when the backup is finished
Please do not leave this page, until you see that it has completed (with a message)

[ndjr]

yes finally, it does work!

[bourke]

What was wrong before?

[ndjr]

What was wrong before?

me...!

[zebra]

First, linux will divide iso into 4G files, because fat32 file can't be bigger than that. So then join the files, you have to join to a ntfs partition, otherwise it will hang when it reached 4g. Then what you get is a bin file, you have to give it a iso ext to let nero or daemon to recognize it. And then you use anydvd hd to copy your original blu-ray or hd dvd. After several try, I finally figured the bove out and got the copy. But the problem is, the copy is a folder, not a iso. Yes, there is a stream sub folder you can play, but the main menu page
with the clickable items is not there and the page with items icon are in sepeate sub folders and not clikable, I tried different ways to copy, but still same result, no iso. Any idea?

[zebra]

Also, is there any possibility PS3 will work with virtual disk? Since fat32 can't do it, how let PS# recognize ntfs?

[dasilva99]

Hello,
I installed linux and vlc on my ps3.
Ripped and decrypted fantastic 4 blu ray to external hdd.

From linux on the ps3 i loaded vlc and tried to play the m2ts files but they stutter badly (play fine on xp).

Is there any player that will play them properly on the ps3 through linux?

Or can i convert the files to something that will play back correctly?

Thanks,
Nick

[Speediakal]

umm, i dont understand part 2, it says:
"2. If you put the ISO on FAT32 hard drive, join them into 1 big iso with copy /b, then put it into a directory. If you did a network connection, then go to step 3."

but a FAT32 formatted drive can't handle files over 4GB and a BD is definetly over 4GB!?



when i rip my BD, it broke it into 3.5GB chunks labeled Blu-Ray.aa, Blu-Ray.ab, etc. all the way to Blu-Ray.aj....what do i do now? how do im open them, or make them into a iso or something that i can work with?

[zeroprobe]

umm, i dont understand part 2, it says:
"2. If you put the ISO on FAT32 hard drive, join them into 1 big iso with copy /b, then put it into a directory. If you did a network connection, then go to step 3."

but a FAT32 formatted drive can't handle files over 4GB and a BD is definetly over 4GB!?



when i rip my BD, it broke it into 3.5GB chunks labeled Blu-Ray.aa, Blu-Ray.ab, etc. all the way to Blu-Ray.aj....what do i do now? how do im open them, or make them into a iso or something that i can work with?


copy them onto an ntfs drive and then at a dos prompt do copy /b blu-ray* new.iso

Then mount.

[Speediakal]

i did that, but when i open it with 7-Zip or something, it says its an invalid file? or is that suppose to happen and i just have to mount it and rip it?

[EDIT] ok, so i opened it in ISoBuster and all the files are there. so ill try mounting it and see what happens.

[Speedy523]

Hi! I'm trying to dump my BD to my PC using Networkwork share, but I always get this error: Backup Blu-Ray to Network Share

IP Address: 192.168.1.7
Foldername: ps3
httpd: option requires an argument -- d BusyBox v1.1.3 (2007.02.22-18:46+0000) multi-call binary Usage: httpd [-c ] [-p ] [-r ] [-h home] [-d/-e ] Listens for incoming http server requests. Options: -c FILE Specifies configuration file. (default httpd.conf) -p PORT Server port (default 80) -r REALM Authentication Realm for Basic Authentication -h HOME Specifies http HOME directory (default ./) -e STRING Html encode STRING -d STRING URL decode STRING Username:
httpd: option requires an argument -- d BusyBox v1.1.3 (2007.02.22-18:46+0000) multi-call binary Usage: httpd [-c ] [-p ] [-r ] [-h home] [-d/-e ] Listens for incoming http server requests. Options: -c FILE Specifies configuration file. (default httpd.conf) -p PORT Server port (default 80) -r REALM Authentication Realm for Basic Authentication -h HOME Specifies http HOME directory (default ./) -e STRING Html encode STRING -d STRING URL decode STRING Password:

Checking Permissions...

Folder Exists.

You Have an Error, possible causes are: Bad Username/Password

The exact error is listed below

mount: Mounting //192.168.1.7/ps3 on /mnt/network failed: Invalid argument

My folders require no password to access, so I keep those firlds blank, so I don't see what the problem is.

Also I've tried backing it up yo my PS3 HD so I can access off of the internet, but everytime I try it says:

Drive:/dev/sda
Found our Hard Disk - /dev/sda !

Enough Space To Backup!

mkdir: Cannot create directory '/mnt/ps3hdd': File Exists

It always says this when I try backing my disk up to mmy HD, and it always stays at this screen.

So can anyone tell me how to fix my network share and my backup to HD?

[Speediakal]

so i ripped the files, but when i open the movie file in something like media player classic, or MPEG Streamclip or VLC, i just get the audio, though in VLC it shows that there is a video track but can't play it. i was also reading a guide for converting BD to H.264 using MeGUI, but it said i needed a DirectShow codec or filter. where can i get this from?

[peau]

I dont think anyone's mentioned anything about the nero part, but I have nero ultra, but I cant seem to find that tab (even in expert mode) about mounting the iso. I thought that premium was a lesser version. just wondering....

[SamuriHL]

That Nero function no workie with Vista...Use Daemon Tools.

[pjo]

Hello !

1. I read that Nero7 Ultra Enhanced ImageDrive does not run in Vista.
Is this true ?

2. DAEMEON Tools 4.10, can this version od DAEMON Tools load the Blu-Ray ISO image ? and BackupBDAV will run ok ?

On my Vista desktop it does not work.

Thanks in advance.

pjo

[SuperGoof]

Slysoft's Virtual Clone Drive works fine in 32-bit Vista. (does not work in 64-bit Vista though.) It loads Blu-ray images just fine. Also it's free.

[pjo]

Slysoft's Virtual Clone Drive works fine in 32-bit Vista. (does not work in 64-bit Vista though.) It loads Blu-ray images just fine. Also it's free.

Thanks, SuperGoof.

I have tried it but PowerDVD 7.3 Ultra could not play it.


DVDInfo Pro reports that the drive does not support BD-R.

[SuperGoof]

I have tried it but PowerDVD 7.3 Ultra could not play it.


In order for PowerDVD to play it, a Blu-ray image mounted with VCD (and perhaps any other similar program) must:

1) Contain already unencrypted .m2ts files OR you have to have AnyDVD HD running on the background to decrypt it 'on the fly', AND

2) The image must have UDF2.5 file system only.


DVDInfo Pro reports that the drive does not support BD-R.

It should not matter.

[pjo]

In order for PowerDVD to play it, a Blu-ray image mounted with VCD (and perhaps any other similar program) must:

1) Contain already unencrypted .m2ts files OR you have to have AnyDVD HD running on the background to decrypt it 'on the fly', AND

2) The image must have UDF2.5 file system only.



It should not matter.


Thanks.

With AnyDVD 6.1.6.9 running, AnyDVD Ripper generates error, "Drive F: is not ready".

Please advise what to check. Drive F: is the Virtual CloneDrive.

How do I check if the image is UDF 2.5 ? Vista File Explorer property shows it is UDF.

---------------------------

ImgBurn shows that it is UDF 2.60

[SuperGoof]

With AnyDVD 6.1.6.9 running, AnyDVD Ripper generates error, "Drive F: is not ready".

How do I check if the image is UDF 2.5?

First, update AnyDVD HD to 6.1.7.0. This is the latest and also stable version. Versions in-between 6.1.6.5 and 6.1.7.0 are unstable (read: buggy).

Also, if you deal with encrypted ISO images, taken from PS3, it is better to always have the latest version of AnyDVD, as in this case they rely on some database of keys to decrypt the image, and they renew the database with each new version.

How do I check if the image is UDF 2.5?

DVDInfo Pro should tell it in "Media Info" tab.
Also you can use IsoBuster.

[pjo]

Thanks.

DVD Info Pro reports that it is UDF 2.96.

[SuperGoof]

Thanks.

DVD Info Pro reports that it is UDF 2.96.

UDF 2.96 does not exist.

Possible values are: 1.02, 1.5, 2.0, 2.01, 2.5, 2.6.

Update AnyDVD anyway. It might help.

[pjo]

It looks like AnyDVD 6.1.7.0 cannot decrypt this image.

In the drive F:, AACS folder stays as AACS.

Trying to rip, "Drive F: is not ready".

[pjo]

Maybe SAK dump was not OK.

[SamuriHL]

Virtual CloneDrive does not work correctly for Blu-ray and HD DVD images(for playback in PowerDVD Ultra especially). Slysoft is aware of this issue and are working on a new version, but, it's been very slow coming. Daemon Tools is your best bet. As for Nero Image Drive, as I said before, it does not work in Vista. Hope this helps!

[pjo]

Virtual CloneDrive does not work correctly for Blu-ray and HD DVD images(for playback in PowerDVD Ultra especially). Slysoft is aware of this issue and are working on a new version, but, it's been very slow coming. Daemon Tools is your best bet. As for Nero Image Drive, as I said before, it does not work in Vista. Hope this helps!

Thanks SamuriHL.

I also have been trying the DAEMON Tools v4.10.

AnyDVD does not work either.

Any advise ?

[Pata]

Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format

[SamuriHL]

pjo:

Try grabbing the 6.1.7.1 beta and see if that helps at all with decrypting your image correctly.

[pjo]

pjo:

Try grabbing the 6.1.7.1 beta and see if that helps at all with decrypting your image correctly.

SamuriHL, Thanks.

I am getting a Panasonic BD drive so I will test it with the physical drive.

BTW I read this http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=129571 .
It looks like AnyDVD HD will not be able to do the job soon.
How do you guys think ?

It looks like DAEMON Tools does not return correct AGID, etc.
Is this correct ?

I am running Vista, so Vista is OK for UDF 2.5.
Do I need to install UDF driver in Vista ?
I could not find one. Pls advise on this.

Thanks in advance.

[SamuriHL]

No, you don't need a UDF driver for Vista. Daemon will work fine. The issue is that AnyDVD HD is not able to decrypt the mounted ISO that you ripped from your PS3. They generally fix those problems in updates which is why I suggested 6.1.7.1 beta. If you get an actual BD drive it will be better than ripping an ISO and transferring it.

[pjo]

No, you don't need a UDF driver for Vista. Daemon will work fine. The issue is that AnyDVD HD is not able to decrypt the mounted ISO that you ripped from your PS3. They generally fix those problems in updates which is why I suggested 6.1.7.1 beta. If you get an actual BD drive it will be better than ripping an ISO and transferring it.

Thanks again for your reply.

The AACS directory contains:

AACS_av directory
MKB_RW.inf file

AACS_av contains:

CPSUnit00001.cci
CPSUnit00002.cci
Unit_Key_RW.inf

BDAV contains:
CLIPINF
PLAYLIST
STREAM
info.bdav

cci is Copy Control Information for CPRM (Content Protection for Recordable Media)

I assume this is why AnyDVD HD cannot do the job.

I can assure that BackupBDAV with the physical BD drive can rip it. Although the ripped files still contain CCI.

After ripping it with BackupBDAV, by deleting AACS directory, it can be burned again and the BD player can play it.

[pjo]

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/AACS-to-counterattack-with-watermarks-and-encrypted-keys.html

How could AnyDVD HD survive this counterattack ?

[SamuriHL]

Thanks again for your reply.

The AACS directory contains:

AACS_av directory
MKB_RW.inf file

AACS_av contains:

CPSUnit00001.cci
CPSUnit00002.cci
Unit_Key_RW.inf

BDAV contains:
CLIPINF
PLAYLIST
STREAM
info.bdav

cci is Copy Control Information for CPRM (Content Protection for Recordable Media)

I assume this is why AnyDVD HD cannot do the job.

I can assure that BackupBDAV with the physical BD drive can rip it. Although the ripped files still contain CCI.

After ripping it with BackupBDAV, by deleting AACS directory, it can be burned again and the BD player can play it.

Fascinating. I know that Peer said that AnyDVD does not handle CPRM so maybe you're right about that. That seems odd, though. You could always email Slysoft support and see if they have any suggestions.

[Th3K1n6]

hi everyone
sorry for my english but I'm Italian...
I have a problem with my iso of casinò royale....I've done it with sak, then i've mounted it in nero image drive(version 3.6.1.0 of nero 8), and with anydvd (my version is 6.1.9.3), i selected rip the dvd-video on my hdd...but when I selected the unit where my iso was mounted, any dvd says: "The drive is not Ready"......i've tryied also with blu-ray disc ripper, but it says: "The Source file doesn't exist"....how can I solve this problem?
Thank you very much

edit: I've tryed also with daemon tool(version 4.10) but it doesn't work too....

[Th3K1n6]

hi everyone
sorry for my english but I'm Italian...
I have a problem with my iso of casinò royale....I've done it with sak, then i've mounted it in nero image drive(version 3.6.1.0 of nero 8), and with anydvd (my version is 6.1.9.3), i selected rip the dvd-video on my hdd...but when I selected the unit where my iso was mounted, any dvd says: "The drive is not Ready"......i've tryied also with blu-ray disc ripper, but it says: "The Source file doesn't exist"....how can I solve this problem?
Thank you very much

edit: I've tryed also with daemon tool(version 4.10) but it doesn't work too....

can someone help me?
Thanks

[Th3K1n6]

up....thanks