Guide: Decrypt Blu-Ray Movies with a PS3 WITHOUT keys

[Pelican9]

Now S.W.A.T. can waste 20GB on my HDD, just because i am an addicted collector of "firsties" :eek:

Right click, Delete :-)

[xt5]

If we want to sniff communication with a blu-ray drive, it might be worth trying to share the ps3 blu-ray drive to a PC via iSCSI (iSCSI server could be run within linux on the ps3, iSCSI clients available for windows and linux on the PC side). Then I'm not sure how easy it is to unwrap them, but the packets containing the SCSI commands could be sniffed with a network sniffer like ethereal.

On second thought, the fact that iSCSI wraps everything in scsi commands may break the usefulness of this. Perhaps this is why Daemon Tools doesn't work (Daemon Tools presents a virtual SCSI drive, does anyone know if nero's disc mounting emulates an IDE drive?)

is there any server/client of iSCSI freely available for Windows?

[blutach]

Ill let you guys know sooner or later if this method works with the S.W.A.T. .iso, this key is not known.

I have to wait for my North Korean guy to get online, so he can test an altered version of anydvd, good thing they dont have software lawls there :devil: :rolleyes:

We have them in this forum. Please confine your post to within forum rules. Specifically, references to warez and software cracks are prohibited.

Regards

[jh87]

If you have linux already installed on your ps3, it become much easy to do the decrypt. You can just dump the iso image to a external drive. Then connect this drive to you pc. Mount the image with the newest edition of Daemon Tools. (yes, you don't need the Nero). Run the AnyDVD HD 6.1.3.6 to rip the movie to you hard drive. Done.
People had been trying to do this before, but it was a no go with the old AnyDVD HD. It was once thought the dumped iso from the ps3 might not contained all the needed data for decryption.
Now the AnyDVD HD 6.1.3.6 does all the tricks.

[jokin]

is there any server/client of iSCSI freely available for Windows?

Microsoft iSCSi initiator. (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=12cb3c1a-15d6-4585-b385-befd1319f825&displaylang=en)

[pooley22]

Oh yes it works!! :)
Iv done a few 2day and all worked great but im getting this error when trying to do Enemy of the State

Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 1
Total size: 4718592 sectors (9216 MBytes)
Video Blu-Ray label:ENEMY_OF_THE_STATE
Media is AACS protected!
Failed to retrieve AGID!
ERROR processing Blu-Ray disc!

has anyone els had this error? if so is there anyway round it.

Thx!!

[bob0r]

@blutach

Not a working key is in the keys thread.
As for refering to warez, its hard for me, what it warez for you people, if freedom for us people.

Hard choises..... solution: i just STFU! :cool:

[blutach]

I don't care bob0r. I don't wish to see posts referring to people working with cracked software.

That is the same as someone copying a DVD he doesn't own.

You call it freedom - I call it theft. Slysoft also has copyright to protect.

This forum stands for fair use, not piracy. Reverse engineering software he may not own because he is in North Korea is not my idea of Fair Use.

Think carefully before you post in future please.

Regards

[PepsiLee2001]

I have a blu-ray rewriter that is a sample and NOT support AACS, so I can't use it to decrypt any blu-ray disc with AACS before.

AnyDVD HD 6.1.3.6 trial version
Blu-ray rewriter : Pioneer BDR-101AVA (firmware 0.84) without AACS support.
VGA : nVidia 7600GS without HDCP
Player : PowerDVD 7.3 Ultra

1. Disable ALL NIC
2. Install AnyDVD HD
3. reboot
4. Testing blu-ray discs

AACS protection BDMV : work fine

Summary for drive M: (AnyDVD 6.1.3.6)
PIONEER BD-RWBDR-101A 0.84 A05/09/13PIONEER
Drive (Hardware) Region: free

Media is a Blu-Ray disc.
Total size: 7236352 sectors (14133 MBytes)
Video Blu-Ray label: 98748746_VOLUME_ID
Media is AACS protected!
Removed AACS copy protection!


AACS protection BDAV : FAIL to play with PowerDVD 7.3

Summary for drive M: (AnyDVD 6.1.3.6)
PIONEER BD-RWBDR-101A 0.84 A05/09/13PIONEER
Drive (Hardware) Region: free

Media is a Blu-Ray disc.
Total size: 11826176 sectors (23098 MBytes)

[uncertainty]

It was posted on April 16 to Usenet: a.b.hdtv
I just spotted it myself today. I haven't tested it, but the C++ source is provided. Always a good thing.

m2tstots worked like a charm on the 3 m2ts files I tried.

[bourke]

So if I grab a disc that has no 'publicly released' keys and try and decrypt it with AnyDVD-HD it will tell us whether they are doing something funky with the Volume IDs?

[jokin]

So if I grab a disc that has no 'publicly released' keys and try and decrypt it with AnyDVD-HD it will tell us whether they are doing something funky with the Volume IDs?

Not completely. I did "Into The BLue" and it worked. They prolly just build thir own db using the known methods. It not like they cant affor a PC drive and the movies to make their db.

[awhitehead]

Not completely. I did "Into The BLue" and it worked. They prolly just build thir own db using the known methods. It not like they cant affor a PC drive and the movies to make their db.

Note that in order for this to be scientific, you need to get a new release, image it to file without AnyDVD HD running while the disk in the in the drive, remove the original disk, and then see if AnyDVD HD will decrypt it.

Also, this should be done with network connection turned off, and then turned on to see if AnyDVD doesn't decrypt without making a network connection.

My personal uneducated guess (I don't use nor own AnyDVD HD, but this is how I'd do it, if I were writing something similar) is that for unknown disks AnyDVD HD connects to a website (maybe over SSL), requesting either a filename consisting of a sha1 hash of AACS\Unit_Key_RO.inf or re-downloading the database in it's entirety.

Potentially it helps to check if any file modifications dates/times change before and after each attempt.

[HyperHacker]

Heck, do the copy without AnyDVD even installed, just in case. Disable network, install it, see if you can copy the copy. If not, enable network and try again.

[jokin]

I have a BluRay that got released recently and has no key.
So I will uninstall AnyDVD. Use the PS3 to make the ISO. Disable network. Install AnyDVD. See if it will decrypt it. If not, I will enable Network and try again.

That sound good?

[bob0r]

@blutach

I have a registered copy of anydvd now.

Thanks for making me feel bad about using a program 1x, i will never ever use again anyway!


Alrighty then, lets get busy pirating movies.... i mean pirating movies..... i mean pirating movies.
(joke copyleft: http://homestarrunner.com/sbemail169.html)

[qtx999]

anyone have a link for m2tstots? I googled it and found nothing helpful. Thank You

look on alt binaries HDTV ..it is up there right now and REAL small (like 300 bytes)

[qtx999]

Not completely. I did "Into The BLue" and it worked. They prolly just build thir own db using the known methods. It not like they cant affor a PC drive and the movies to make their db.

worked with enemy of the state also (US)

[blutach]

@blutach

I have a registered copy of anydvd now.

Thanks for making me feel bad about using a program 1x, i will never ever use again anyway!


Alrighty then, lets get busy pirating movies.... i mean pirating movies..... i mean pirating movies.
(joke copyleft: http://homestarrunner.com/sbemail169.html)
bob0r

I know you think you are making a joke, but what you just said is in direct contravention of rule 6 - joke or not.

This forum is not about pirating movies under any circumstances. I suggest you read rule 6 and the various announcements (including my announcement at the top of this forum) carefully.

Making a post like that can only bring us into disrepute. For that, I am unfortunately going to have to issue a R6 strike.

Please be very careful about what you post in future.

EDIT: You should read Doom9's disclaimer (http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/disclaimer.htm) very very carefully and ensure you understand the following perfectly:

Piracy and Copyright

The maintainer of this site does not condone or endorse video piracy in any way. The function of this site is to simply provide information for people to backup their own purchased DVDs to VCD/SVCD/DVD±R/W/DivX/MPEG-4 (more suitable formats for archival purposes). In most countries copyright laws allow the original purchaser/owner to legally make one personal backup/copy for their own personal use. The owner would like to stress that it is illegal to backup/copy a movie that you do not own (i.e.. personally purchased). It is also illegal to backup/copy your own movie and give copies away. The legality of copying a movie for a friend (if he owns that particular movie) may also depend on your country's' legislation concerning that matter.


Regards

[bob0r]

http://x264.nl/slap.gif

[jokin]

Ok,

1) I uninstalled AnyDVD.
2) Copied the ISO off the PS3 I made of my "District B13"
3) Disabled my network.
4) Installed AnyDVD 6.1.3.6
5) Rebooted
6) Got this on the ISO mounted in daemon tools.

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8900/anydvd1ed3.jpg

7) Enabled network
8) Still can't decrypt. Must be a database.


Jokin

[mofo69]

same here.

dumped image with YDL.
transferred to ext HDD then to internal HDD.
mounted with latest Daemon-Tools.
Anydvd was running all the time and also being online,
nevertheless the decrypting didn't work.

I have a Euro PS3 with FW1.5 btw

EDIT: stupid me. 6.1.3.6 wasn't installed. what is the autoupdate good for? ;) nope, I am to blame. works fine now.

[pooley22]

Ok,

1) I uninstalled AnyDVD.
2) Copied the ISO off the PS3 I made of my "District B13"
3) Disabled my network.
4) Installed AnyDVD 6.1.3.6
5) Rebooted
6) Got this on the ISO mounted in daemon tools.

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8900/anydvd1ed3.jpg

7) Enabled network
8) Still can't decrypt. Must be a database.


Jokin

I too get this error message when trying with Enemy of the State

Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 1
Total size: 4718592 sectors (9216 MBytes)
Video Blu-Ray label:ENEMY_OF_THE_STATE
Media is AACS protected!
Failed to retrieve AGID!
ERROR processing Blu-Ray disc!

I'm thinking it may be a database also!

[QuePaso]

It is definitely a Database! Got the FIRST disc out of many, many discs so far, that did not work with AnyDVD HD. Enter The Dragon blu-ray. It got released April 17 so it is very new. I hope the anydvd guys get the database updated quickly LOL.

[arnezami]

It is definitely a Database! Got the FIRST disc out of many, many discs so far, that did not work with AnyDVD HD. Enter The Dragon blu-ray. It got released April 17 so it is very new. I hope the anydvd guys get the database updated quickly LOL.

Could you mount an ISO of that disc (or copy the AACS directory to the root dir of a HDD) and run aacskeys. Just to be sure its not a MKB v2. aacskeys should be able to get a verified Media Key out of an ISO/AACS files.

Thanks,

arnezami

[QuePaso]

Could you mount an ISO of that disc (or copy the AACS directory to the root dir of a HDD) and run aacskeys. Just to be sure its not a MKB v2. aacskeys should be able to get a verified Media Key out of an ISO/AACS files.

Thanks,

arnezami

E:\aacskeys_v0.2.5>a i n
aacskeys v0.2.5

Current path: E:\aacskeys_v0.2.5
First C-value: 0C26D49503AC34FBEE3113D8668CC714
First u mask nr: 17
First uv: 00000001
Device key: AA856A1BA814AB99FFDEBA6AEFBE1C04
All AGIDs in use, aborting.

Thats what i get

[arnezami]

E:\aacskeys_v0.2.5>a i n
aacskeys v0.2.5

Current path: E:\aacskeys_v0.2.5
First C-value: 0C26D49503AC34FBEE3113D8668CC714
First u mask nr: 17
First uv: 00000001
Device key: AA856A1BA814AB99FFDEBA6AEFBE1C04
All AGIDs in use, aborting.

Thats what i get

Well. From that I can see this still MKB v1 (the first umask/uv is still 17/00000001 which is where our current Processing Key is located).

Although I should change aacskeys so it doesn't abort so early since it can decrypt the C-value into a valid Media Key.

Anyway. Just for confirmation: could you check if the MKB file starts with there values:

1000000C0004100300000001

(using a hex editor)

The 01 is the MKB version number.

Regards,

arnezami

[QuePaso]

Well. From that I can see this still MKB v1 (the first umask/uv is still 17/00000001 which is where our current Processing Key is located).

Although I should change aacskeys so it doesn't abort so early since it can decrypt the C-value into a valid Media Key.

Anyway. Just for confirmation: could you check if the MKB file starts with there values:

1000000C0004100300000001

(using a hex editor)

The 01 is the MKB version number.

Regards,

arnezami

Yes, it does.

[arnezami]

Yes, it does.

Ok. Thanks.

Btw: if anyone finds a disc that contains a MKB starting with something different than the above then ring some bells. Since thats what we are looking for ;).

[qtx999]

I too get this error message when trying with Enemy of the State

Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 1
Total size: 4718592 sectors (9216 MBytes)
Video Blu-Ray label:ENEMY_OF_THE_STATE
Media is AACS protected!
Failed to retrieve AGID!
ERROR processing Blu-Ray disc!

I'm thinking it may be a database also!

if it is the US version, it worked for me

[qtx999]

This method worked for my copy of total recall, stir of echoes

but *not* the black crowes concert disc

[pooley22]

Could you mount an ISO of that disc (or copy the AACS directory to the root dir of a HDD) and run aacskeys. Just to be sure its not a MKB v2. aacskeys should be able to get a verified Media Key out of an ISO/AACS files.

Thanks,

arnezami

C:\aacskeys_v0.2.5>aacskeys k v n
aacskeys v0.2.5

Current path: C:\aacskeys_v0.2.5
First C-value: 504415CDDC2C80912CC567903C986D6D
First u mask nr: 17
First uv: 00000001
Device key: AA856A1BA814AB99FFDEBA6AEFBE1C04
Processing key: 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0
Encrypted C-value: 504415CDDC2C80912CC567903C986D6D
Corresponding uv: 00000001

Decrypted C-value: 05E6368CFA423DC59B09906BFD974C35
Media key: 05E6368CFA423DC59B09906BFD974C34

Encrypted verification data: 374455068FE766D0850B19BDCE9CE758
Decr verif data should be: 0123456789ABCDEF
Decrypted verification data: 0123456789ABCDEFC532D476127F575E

Volume ID: 00000000000000000000000000000000
Volume Unique Key: 79C7B58E0A3CEDA849E585B93DD8FD09
Unit Key File Hash (DiscID): 680B64F68D128CECA055A1EDE5EB9FC1FF04039D
Encrypted Unit Key 1: 508B45D05EDF75B4A3F5E9CB222652A0

Decrypted Unit Key 1: B8FC9AAD9C8894C25747551CF67B7623

C:\aacskeys_v0.2.5>

This is what i get when i run aacskeys!

[arnezami]

C:\aacskeys_v0.2.5>aacskeys k v n
aacskeys v0.2.5

Current path: C:\aacskeys_v0.2.5
First C-value: 504415CDDC2C80912CC567903C986D6D
First u mask nr: 17
First uv: 00000001
Device key: AA856A1BA814AB99FFDEBA6AEFBE1C04
Processing key: 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0
Encrypted C-value: 504415CDDC2C80912CC567903C986D6D
Corresponding uv: 00000001

Decrypted C-value: 05E6368CFA423DC59B09906BFD974C35
Media key: 05E6368CFA423DC59B09906BFD974C34

Encrypted verification data: 374455068FE766D0850B19BDCE9CE758
Decr verif data should be: 0123456789ABCDEF
Decrypted verification data: 0123456789ABCDEFC532D476127F575E

Volume ID: 00000000000000000000000000000000
Volume Unique Key: 79C7B58E0A3CEDA849E585B93DD8FD09
Unit Key File Hash (DiscID): 680B64F68D128CECA055A1EDE5EB9FC1FF04039D
Encrypted Unit Key 1: 508B45D05EDF75B4A3F5E9CB222652A0

Decrypted Unit Key 1: B8FC9AAD9C8894C25747551CF67B7623

C:\aacskeys_v0.2.5>

This is what i get when i run aacskeys!

Ehm. Which movie is this? Is thi the same movie that didn't work with AnyDVD (like QuePaso's movie)? Please give more info. Is this a mounted ISO?

Anyway. On this disc there is (most likely) a MKB v1 because the current found Device Key/Processing Key can decrypt the Media Key (note that the "Decrypted verification data" is alright).

[pooley22]

Ehm. Which movie is this? Is thi the same movie that didn't work with AnyDVD (like QuePaso's movie)? Please give more info. Is this a mounted ISO?

Anyway. On this disc there is (most likely) a MKB v1 because the current found Device Key/Processing Key can decrypt the Media Key (note that the "Decrypted verification data" is alright).

Sorry for the lack of info :)

The film is Speed (EUR), it is a mounted iso that didnt work with AnyDVD. So i thought i'd try and get the keys with aacskeys and thats what i got. The keys didnt work so im assuming thats because it didnt find the VID it just comes back as all zeros. Is there anyway to get the VID so i could mabe decrypt it with the new aacskeys v0.2.5
Thx!

[arnezami]

Sorry for the lack of info :)

The film is Speed (EUR), it is a mounted iso that didnt work with AnyDVD. So i thought i'd try and get the keys with aacskeys and thats what i got. The keys didnt work so im assuming thats because it didnt find the VID it just comes back as all zeros. Is there anyway to get the VID so i could mabe decrypt it with the new aacskeys v0.2.5
Thx!

Thanks for the info :).

It does indeed not work because of the lacking Volume ID (all zeroes).

At this moment we have not (yet) found a way to get a Volume ID using a PS3 (drive). Even though we've tried a lot ;). This is most likely caused by the Hyperviser in the PS3. It seems that only a PS3 hack or a PS3 drive hack will enable us to do this. Such a hack btw may become a little easier if we find out how the Volume ID is stored on a BD.

So the only options left for you are:

Wait for someone with a PC-based Bluray drive to post the VUK (or Volume ID) of your movie.
Wait for AnyDVD to update their VUK database to include the VUK.
Wait for someone to find a way to retrieve a Volume ID from a PS3.
So its basicly its a waiting game...

Regards,

arnezami

[awhitehead]

The film is Speed (EUR), it is a mounted iso that didnt work with AnyDVD. So i thought i'd try and get the keys with aacskeys and thats what i got. The keys didnt work so im assuming thats because it didnt find the VID it just comes back as all zeros. Is there anyway to get the VID so i could mabe decrypt it with the new aacskeys v0.2.5
Thx!

One VUK for Speed got posted today in the apropriate thread by mrazzido.


E035BDAC5FAFCA5F806BF738EF3B82A67BB823BD=SPEED (EUR GER/ENG) |u|mM/Dd/yy| 1-32F4C710802A7F654AEC0A81A50A42DE



This VUK is in DumpHD (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=123111) format.

Maybe it will work for you.

[zeroprobe]

Do other people get a Volume ID when using aacskeys on there PS3's ???

This is from a UK Casino Royal disc and I am running a 2.6.21 kernel.

Processing key: 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0
Encrypted C-value: FF85DB5A97E19F7782037E03CDB679E0
Corresponding uv: 00000001

Decrypted C-value: 3A93836A58FC10D450F4B0E46B25563A
Media key: 3A93836A58FC10D450F4B0E46B25563B

Encrypted verification data: 67F611DD176C5CCA6D57210B18A065AF
Decr verif data should be: 0123456789ABCDEF
Decrypted verification data: 0123456789ABCDEF348925EDE51929CD

AGID: FF

Drive certificate (Dcert): ########################################
########################################
########################################
########################################
########################
Drive Nonce (Dn): ########################################

Drive key point (Dv): ########################################
########################################
Drive key signature (Dsig): ########################################
########################################

Host key (Hk): 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Host key signature (Hsig): ########################################
########################################

Drive signature wrong/error
Bus key (BK): ################################

Volume ID: 8E9B0E3CF41FA7DA3A829F604122EA4E
Voluem ID MAC: ################################

Volume Unique Key: B9BC0AF08BCB063AFE901C1573692CCF
Encrypted Unit Key 1: F22BB8CA98BC5E77CC1B7C76895C0F2C

Decrypted Unit Key 1: 54D03F90A14A88292304EE7C80161AAE

[arnezami]

Do other people get a Volume ID when using aacskeys on there PS3's ???

This is from a UK Casino Royal disc and I am running a 2.6.21 kernel.

Processing key: 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0
Encrypted C-value: FF85DB5A97E19F7782037E03CDB679E0
Corresponding uv: 00000001

Decrypted C-value: 3A93836A58FC10D450F4B0E46B25563A
Media key: 3A93836A58FC10D450F4B0E46B25563B

Encrypted verification data: 67F611DD176C5CCA6D57210B18A065AF
Decr verif data should be: 0123456789ABCDEF
Decrypted verification data: 0123456789ABCDEF348925EDE51929CD

AGID: FF

Drive certificate (Dcert): ########################################
########################################
########################################
########################################
########################
Drive Nonce (Dn): ########################################

Drive key point (Dv): ########################################
########################################
Drive key signature (Dsig): ########################################
########################################

Host key (Hk): 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Host key point (Hv): 8E9B0E3CF41FA7DA3A829F604122EA4ED5261AA4
7570CE0BB9061A66FAF92C4A7D98ACC171CBF19B
Host key signature (Hsig): ########################################
########################################

Drive signature wrong/error
Bus key (BK): ################################

Volume ID: 8E9B0E3CF41FA7DA3A829F604122EA4E
Voluem ID MAC: ################################

Volume Unique Key: B9BC0AF08BCB063AFE901C1573692CCF
Encrypted Unit Key 1: F22BB8CA98BC5E77CC1B7C76895C0F2C

Decrypted Unit Key 1: 54D03F90A14A88292304EE7C80161AAE

This is not a Volume ID. If AGID if FF then aacskeys should stop/quit. Because pretty much everything after that is garbage. It doesn't stop atm (still have to do proper error handling when I have the time) so that may be confusing.

Btw: you also seem to use an older version of aacskeys (but that doesn't matter much in this case).

arnezami

[zeroprobe]

just trying find the latest one.

[KenD00]

One VUK for Speed got posted today in the apropriate thread by mrazzido.

It's not a VUK, its a CPS Unit Key ;).

:rolleyes:

[awhitehead]

It's not a VUK, its a CPS Unit Key ;).

:rolleyes:


Aaargh. Why can't the HD-DVD and BD folks sit down, have some sushi and beer, sing some Karaoke songs together, and at least come up with consistent terminology between formats? One can dream.

:thanks:

[zeroprobe]

here is another one. No keys on the web whatsoever for this bluray.

National Geographic : Relentless Enemies << quite new and rare.

Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 1
Total size: 4718592 sectors (9216 MBytes)
Video Blu-Ray label: 51283896_RELENTLESS_ENEMIES
Media is AACS protected!
Removed AACS copy protection!

[KenD00]

Uhm, i don't want to sound like a smart ass but a VUK is a VUK for both formats, the difference is CPS Unit Key vs. Title Key :)

:rolleyes:

[QuePaso]

Just a FYI. Ive only seen 1 movie that wouldnt decrypt with AnyDVD HD, and it was Enter The Dragon Blu-Ray (Very new release). I upgraded to the newest AnyDVD HD beta and was able to decrypt it flawlessly. Just a heads up for those who have discs with no keys to try the upgrade.

[pooley22]

Just a FYI. Ive only seen 1 movie that wouldnt decrypt with AnyDVD HD, and it was Enter The Dragon Blu-Ray (Very new release). I upgraded to the newest AnyDVD HD beta and was able to decrypt it flawlessly. Just a heads up for those who have discs with no keys to try the upgrade.

Thx m8 will give this a try, is the version 6.1.3.6 BETA? cant seem to find it :(

Thx again :)

[FoxDisc]

I've only seen 1 movie that wouldnt decrypt with AnyDVD HD, and it was Enter The Dragon Blu-Ray (Very new release). I upgraded to the newest AnyDVD HD beta and was able to decrypt it flawlessly.
It would be interesting to know why it wouldn't decrypt with the old version. AnyDVD is using an internal database of keys, so it's quite possible that an older version would not have the key to a new title in the database, but the database is only a backup to the primary method of decryption that should work for all discs using the now ultrafamous 09 F9 processing key (I've seen it in a poem, a song, an IPv6 version, a domain name and on a T-shirt!) .

If you had an original disc, it should have decrypted with the old version unless the new disc has a Mark II MKB. AFAIK, no one has yet seen a Mark II MKB disc despite announcements that they are coming. If Enter The Dragon Blu-Ray was a Mark II MKB that revoked the 09 F9 key and AnyDVD decrypted it, they are ahead of this forum on decryption.

Anyone have any information on this?

[jokin]

Thx m8 will give this a try, is the version 6.1.3.6 BETA? cant seem to find it :(

Thx again :)

Try the Slysoft forums. Its a sticky. Version 6.1.4.1

[JK1974]

AnyDVD is using an internal database of keys, so it's quite possible that an older version would not have the key to a new title in the database, but the database is only a backup to the primary method of decryption that should work for all discs using the now ultrafamous 09 F9 processing key (I've seen it in a poem, a song, an IPv6 version, a domain name and on a T-shirt!) .

If I understand correctly, AnyDVD just has VUKs in it´s database. If the VUK for these new discs is missing, then of course the decryption is not working. When a VUK is inside (like it is said to be in the beta), then it would decode the disc without the processing key as this one is not necessary if you have a VUK.

aacskey simply might not work on new discs as it uses the private host key of PowerDVD for getting the volume ID.
If the AACS-LA indeed revoked something, the information written in this thread would mean that they just revoked the host key of PowerDVD (and for sure WinDVD).

Couldn´t this key just be rediscovered again by USB sniffing like you did before with the older versions of PowerDVD and WinDVD, because the USB communication between the drive and the host is not crypted (and can´t be encrypted in the future, referring to the information here as the HD DVD drive is said not to support bus encryption)?

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Anyone tried looking for keys popping up within Anydvd? Like put a break in when you mount the image and anydvd does its stuff.

Probably be encrypted keys but worth a shot.

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If I understand correctly, AnyDVD just has VUKs in it´s database.

I don't think you understand it correctly then. If I understand it correctly, AnyDVD enters into a standard AACS authenticated session with the drive and asks for the volume ID. It then uses the processing key or device keys the same way that any other authorized host software (like WindVD or PowerDVD) uses them to do the decryption. Only if the drive and disc are missing (say an encrypted iso) does it fall back to the database. The db is a good idea for them as it will make it look like their software is working, as long as the software is being used on an old Mark I MKB

If the VUK for these new discs is missing, then of course the decryption is not working.

And my point is that it should work on a Mark I original MKB disc even if the db does not include the VUK.

aacskey simply might not work on new discs as it uses the private host key of PowerDVD for getting the volume ID.
If the AACS-LA indeed revoked something, the information written in this thread would mean that they just revoked the host key of PowerDVD (and for sure WinDVD).

If this disc is revoking the host key (and/or the processing key), then it's the first of the new wave of discs - and that's the question. Is it one of the new discs or not? So far I haven't seen any reliable reports of a new disc.

Couldn´t this key just be rediscovered again by USB sniffing like you did before with the older versions of PowerDVD and WinDVD, because the USB communication between the drive and the host is not crypted (and can´t be encrypted in the future, referring to the information here as the HD DVD drive is said not to support bus encryption)?

The first step is to find out if it is truly a new disc, or just a glitch by AnyDVD.