Titlewriter 2.5 (now 4.1) Update 25 April 2007

[Fallen]

The 32Kb gaps (I assume you are talking between Ifo & bup are trivial IMHO) most commercial dvd's don't bother.

Its not nero's selection of dl thats bothering me so much (I think I've found a configuration that works) but the crash/lockup during menu's. This is stumping me

And no I'm also unwilling to sink more $ into a program where they essentially say they fully support DL burns -- but do not

Just downloaded/tested RecordNow again still crashes.

You are right -- ImageBurn >>Support File Mode burn would be the Ideal :) :) . since all Ifo/Vob/Editing manipulation is in file mode

At least LightningUK listens to users

[r0lZ]

The 32Kb gaps (I assume you are talking between Ifo & bup are trivial IMHO) most commercial dvd's don't bother.
That's only partially right. I have many commercial DVDs with large gaps between IFO and BUP files. And most often, there is no need for the gaps on commercial DVDs, because the VOB files are long enough.
But since VIDEO_TS.VOB is often removed by the users to avoid the stupid logos and warnings and to regain some space, if you don't use the 32K gap option, VIDEO_TS.IFO and VIDEO_TS.BUP will probably share a common ECC block. If there is a little read error just on this block, the DVD is totally ruined. Therefore, keeping the 32K gaps is very important!
(The same problem can occur in the title domains, too, but since it is not possible to remove totally a title VOB, it is relatively rare that the total size of the VOB files of a titleset is less than 32KB.)

Its not nero's selection of dl thats bothering me so much (I think I've found a configuration that works) but the crash/lockup during menu's. This is stumping meAs I said, there are really many problems with Nero! ;)

[goonix]

@Fallen

What is your problem with the PgcEdit + ImgBurn combination?
Is it the time needed for creating the ISO (only a few minutes)?
Is it the additional space needed on your hard disk (current capacities >300GB)?
Do you don't trust it?

I never had a coaster since I use it.
And I think the 32K option will be useful for you too, if one day a small scratch has made the IFO unreadable and the player has access to the BUP file. Without this option a single scratch can make the whole DVD useless, if IFO and BUP are in the same DVD block.

goonix

EDIT: r0lZ was faster :)

[r0lZ]

Thanks, goonix!

[Fallen]

No problem with imgburn at all except that its a workaround and the extra time required isn't trivial over the long haul (takes about 20 to 30 for a dvd-dl here).
I've done close to a 1000 dvd's without the 32k -- not one problem with any.
And kids are seriously rough with them.
And any scratch that takes out both the ifo & the bup will trash so many other sectors that the dvd will be useless anyway.
Unless of course you are boring holes with a 70uf laser in your dvd's

[r0lZ]

A scratch in a VOB file is usually not fatal. You will probably not notice it, or your DVD will only freeze for some frames. But a scratch in an IFO and his backup is fatal!
You have been lucky... until now!

What computer and HDD are you using? 30 minutes to create an ISO, even on the same physical drive, it's really worthy of stone age! On my (relatively old) computer, it takes around 6 minutes.

[Fallen]

well we'll agree to disagree on the 32kb. Does no harm if its there (although I seriously doubt the specs support whitespace)
And does require all post apps equivalent of "Get Vts sectors" to honor even though the table lengths don't add up properly)

regularly use 2.4Ghz athlon dual 120Gb Hard drives 1024Meg and work i/o back and forth (fully defragged and DMA on) between the 2.
C: is usually about 60% free.
D: is blank when I start a DVD backup session

Most Shrinking takes 4-8 minutes (movie only)with no compression,and DVDD ripps a disk (Usually) in about 7-12 Min.

[r0lZ]

Yes, the "gaps" (not sure it's the official word) are fully supported by the DVD specs! As I said, I have seen many commercial DVDs with large gaps between files. Unfortunately, there are many poor programs that doesn't support them, notably Nero!
None of the table length are related to the gaps.

If you can shrink a DVD in 7-12 min, you should be able to create the ISO a littel bit faster (because the processor has less to do.) The speed of the read/write operation is the same for all applications, and depends only of the hardware.

[Fallen]

Odd
Just did Narnia

DVDD >>File Mode 12 Min
2 Inserting Dummy sectors
---so FixVts 5 Min --For some reason Had to IfoEdit GetVtsSectors

Shrink >>Movieonly (No Compression)
---whacked start logos/end credits 5 Min

TW Readd Menus--Bypass Vmg Crap,DvdText,Readd Original Menus,
And since there was crap in Main Vts --Happyface(to bypass crap),Killed buttons to bonus, 2.5 Min

Interesting in that there was a series of vobs in Video_ts with no pre/post commands don't see that to often

Noticed some limits on filenames mkisofts didn't like C:\Chronicles_Of_Narnia as a source folder

Create Iso -22 Min

So It took almost as long to create the iso as all the other steps combined

[r0lZ]

As I said, on my computer, 6 mins (maximum!) But I have 2 hard discs, and, of course, I copy from one to the other.
Anyway, even with 20 minutes, it's not so long. If you have to rerip and reburn the DVD again because it is scratched or the LB is not at the right position, you will loose much more time (and money!)

[goonix]

ISO creation time with PgcEdit of a full SL DVD (4.36GB) on my P4 2.8GHz 1024MB RAM using 2 different hard disk drives:

mkisofs 2.01 X (i686-pc-cygwin) -> 2:45 min

mkisofs 2.01-bootcd.ru (i686-pc-mingw32) -> 1:59 min

goonix

[setarip_old]

My 2 cents:

One drive to another (Files on "J:\ to .ISO "D:\") 2 minutes and three seconds

One drive (Files on "J:\ to .ISO "J:\") 9 minutes and 12 seconds

[blutach]

I have followed this thread with much interest.

Yes, it is much faster to use the 2nd drive. Same is true when using VobBlanker (http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/vobblanker.htm) etc.

I have a fairly slow PC and my 4.37Gb ISOs take 4-5 minutes max (different drives).

As for Ner0, welcome to the (very large) club Fallen. Needless to say, as a long time user of mkisofs, I have never had a coaster.

Regards

[Fallen]

Blutach -- Still use Nero for SL's -- haven't been burned yet after about a 1000 (except for the No_name cheapies I tried).

So I'm In your camp for Dl's

Yes I can live with the workflow speed (Kinda have to don't I)

Though I seriously wish Imgburn would load files --But wishes and fishes
All My manipulations Shrink, Mkisofts etc, are from drive to drive

Still consider 32kb a solution in search of a problem but to each his own
-- Also remember I always import Menu's (Either Generic or original) via TW

It IS supposed to be a backup :devil: :rolleyes:

[Fallen]

Just Uploaded Ver 2.63

If opening a disc for viewing only 1 warning will be kicked by _UNDO creator

BUGFIX: Unending loop if Happy Face was fixing Setup Menu# and Setup Menu# was last menu in VTS

[Fallen]

Just Uploaded 2.64 Changelog Updated

[Fallen]

June 4, 2006
Rev 2.65
In HappyFace --Added support to create sensible (Typical) Pgn chapter structures for Dvd's where Cell structure is used for chapter support
(AKA Freedomland --Sony is really seeing just how far they can muck things up)
Including PgceditPreview in download folder
In Gui -- Altered Menu# prompts to More descriptive Pgc#
Fixed -- Small Minor foibles
SimpleMenus unchanged



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[dirio49]

Thanks for the new version.:D
:thanks: :thanks: :thanks:

[Fallen]

June 6,2006
BugFix -Looks like I broke the Menu Import routine fixing Freedomland Genre menus -- Was mapping chapters in template to cell count if cell count was greater then programs count in VTS_PGCITI table. :stupid: (Duh)
Lightly Updated Visualhelp.rtf explaining that when Generic menus (SimpleMenu folder) are used the
If Generic -- Import... checkbocx in Settings must be checked
I'm beginning to wish I hadn't Used this trick to reduce size of SimpleMenus folder

[Fallen]

June 29, 2006
Rev 2.652
In Happyface -- Support added to fix/handle "AKA Ultraviolet" style menus in Happyface
-- Im beginning to think Sony is going to start breaking our settop players soon
-- mucking around like this

Trivial -- When Killing buttons -- Option added (Via Settings)
to retain command instead of NOPing it
Added: A Help file showing an example of how to use happyface -- Happyfacehelp.rtf
BugFix: In Happyface wasn't skipping to right second page Pgc#/Vob when 1st and second pages
of chaptermenu were non sequential
BugFix: forced remapp of ttn to 1 on Jump Vts_tt commands where ttn exceeds actual ttn's in vts
Support added for pre,post,cell command editing of Vts ttns
Small GUI foibles

[Fallen]

Rev 2.653
June 15, 2006
Added -- A Newbie level Wizard to fill in Happyface form
A Checkbox in Settings to start Happyface with the Original Happyface
BugFix -- Fixed Tw call to PgcEditPreview --was failing when Path to Source contained spaces/wildcards
BugFix -- HappyFace wasn't fixing button link to subtitle Pgc when audio pgc was 0
Not really a Bug --- but if TW detects no audio/substream matches between import menu
And audio/subtitle streams that exist in compiliation
Auto remapping of Existing Streams will be turned off
Added - Macro @ROOTMENU@ to command line parser -- used in menushrink CLI (In Program list)
Allows starting for Example MenuShrink on selected Menu Pre or Post Import
Its Just the File Path of the first line of (Menu Selector or Menu Editor) list
Caution: DON"T try to MenuShrink while DvdShrink processing source
Strange and Deadly things happen

FAllenAngel

[Fallen]

Just released TitleWriter Ver 3.0 Major revision

Rev 3.0 9/27/06 Major Revision (Download both TitleWriterFiles and SimpleMenus folders)

Added -- Support (In Happyface) if "Main" menu is in Video_ts with "Sub" menus (Chapter,setup etc.) in a VTS

Added Help (Guides) via Menu TitleWriter Help >> Help (All other guides are invalid/removed)

All Changes in MenuEditor/HappyFace will be reflected in all Vts LU's

Added --Completely changed the Backup Support for Multiple Backup (restore Points)
Caution: If opening an "Old" TW modified file (Pre 2.7)
Some sub files will be missing and the UNDO feature will not work

BugFix -- At some point I busted the Export DVDText for a Title -- Oops

Added -- TW can now Autosetup DVDShrink for Movie Only Compiliations (ReAuthor mode to Just Movie) + ReAdd Orig Menu)

To Use: Open Ripped compiliation in TW and Hit The DVDShrink icon (See Settings)--Then click yes)
DVDShrink Target size (I am Assuming Single Layer 4464) will be reduced by size of largest Vts Menu + Vmg Menu
And Reauthor mode will be started
(I'm almost lazy enough/tempted to step right over the cliff and
DBLCLK largest Movie entry on DVDShrink Browser list)
When Done Shrinking TW will Parse DVDShrink target folder
name to (DVDText) Volume and Title (Altering Underscores to spaces for title and removing them for Volume
and readd (Largest Vts Menu from Ripped folder) menu


Increased DVDTEXT support size to 32Kb from 2Kb -- Should eliminate need to ever Compress DVDText

Added -- Get Vts Sectors (Standard method -- Same as Ifoedits) Located in File Menu

Removed -- Menu Is Generic (Never liked this tickbox -- to confusing)
Note: If creating your own custom Switcher/Generic menu you MUST set provider field of VMG menu to "GENERIC"

In HappyFace -- Increased allowed variances/conditions in Initial loading of Chapter pages (re Button position size(
for preloading chapter pages --(Ie Silent Hill)
(Should more accurately determine "What is a Chapter page")

BugFix -- DVDCommand to string GUI was misreporting On/Off states of subtitle commands

Added -- In Dvd Commands editor -- list of frequently used commands -- for Quick pasting of common Commands

Bugfix -- Crash caused by clicking on next vob icon before before clicking on a line entry in MenuEditor

Changed --the default logic behind when to NOP Killed buttons (Default (unticked in Settings) is now to NOP command)
or to NOP command if Settings field is unticked


Added -- New SimpleMenus
Menu Buttons for all Vts Root Menu's
Play All (Gels nicely with DVDShrink Reauthor mode pre post ttn logic)
Note: Play All will stop if Main (VMG/Movie chooser menu) is entered)
For those who create custom vts menu's Add Movie pre command (gprm 0=0 ) and post command (gprm 0=sprm(4))
(or the VTS title number) (This matches DVDShrink post ttn strategy)

Added -- AutoKill of Menu buttons leading to removed VTS Root menus in VMG main menu

Added -- AutoFix the Class (Root,Audio,Chapter, etc) Pgc modification during Happyface of Pgc's being simplified (Turn on in Settings)

Pgc Class modification (Highlight the Pgc --Option in Menu)

BugFixs -- All over to better support Multiple vts menu import(original/custom) with a Generic Simplemenu as a switcher

Updated -- Happyface GUI to fix non-sequential (And screwed up) chapter menus aka "Final Destination 3" and "Edison force"
All Chapter Pgc's (pages) will be now handled individually
--to edit individual number entries in Advanced mode
click on number you wish to change on a already highlighted line (A selector will open)
-- New entries (Missed chapter pages on initial startup) can be created via drag drop pgc from viewer
to last "blank" line in list or Add button

Updated -- Happyface Wizard for above changes

BugFix -- Title in Vts_0? in Chapter jumps wasn't always correctly being updated to Title 1 of current Vts in HappyFace


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FAllenAngel

[blutach]

Thanks Fallen!

Regards

[Fallen]

BugFix Ver 3.1-- Subtitle/Audio buttons wonky when readding a "Generic" menu

[Fallen]

Rev 3.12
Bugfix: During Simple Menu Import Tw was altering cell duration time of Vts 2 -- resulting in a crash
Bugfix Dvd Command editor wasn't accepting changes in First play or Movie pre post commands
Bugfix In Simple menus import Tw was occasionally (and wrongly) Killing buttons for existing Audio/Subtitle streams
Tweaked the "What is a Chapter algorithm" (In Happyface)



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[Fallen]

Just Uploaded TW Ver 4.1 release

Rev 4.1 Release
MenuMaker:
Added Audio -- Remember 48Khz for dvds
(Besweet & Belight are painless for mp2 conversions)
Allowing -- Per Button selection of frames images, display rules
A number of buttons to auto fill all menu movie button cells
Cleaned up Silence.mp2 -- No more "Please remux" in DvdAuthor
Added: Tw will turn off your "Load Vts with generic " option in Settings if any movie cells have "Apply TitleWriters Generic Vts Menu to this movie" unchecked
Fixed - Many small silly things/errors in the MenuMaker GUI
Removed -- SimpleMenus from TW (No longer really needed)
Updated Help



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FAllenAngel

[blutach]

Thanks again Fallen.

Regards