Titlewriter 2.5 (now 4.1) Update 25 April 2007

[Fallen]

Your problem is that most decent players Settop/Soft set sprm 7 and 6 to 1 before any playback -- the commands I gave won't be buggy. You just can't resume to the middle of chapter 1. Theres no way around it.

[jinjin_jp]

@Fallen
I agree you.
I think the commands you gave won't be buggy, what I said buggy is about PowerDVD.
I don't think it the real problem that players sprm 7 to 1 before any playback, I think it player's specification.
By PgcEdit trace mode, it seems that sprm 6 to 0 before any playback.

[Fallen]

Thats just PgcEdit don't assume he actually emulates hardwaresoftware playback -- He Doesn't

Got Curious about what a settop would initially set Sprm 6,7 to so I made a Test Dvd.
On Both My Pioneer players -- Juke and single loader -- Both 6 and 7 were set to 1.
On Dennon 6 was 0 7 was 1

Defensively you can't count on either of those sprm's for play initialization --until a pgn beyond one is played

Nero ShowTime was buggy using your commands

I guess the Sprm used doesn't matter -- they both are ambiguous on boot so I'll stick with my logic on the templates

[jinjin_jp]

Thanks for the information.

[jinjin_jp]

As one information,
PowerDVD has bug about Sprm(6) not only Sprm(7).
http://www.dvd-replica.com/DVD/sprm.php
Sprm(6) of PowerDVD seems to be used as PGC of Menu not only TTN.
Because
----------------------------------------------------------
VTSM 1 , LU 1 (en) , 4 (dummy) - Chapters: n/a, Programs: 0, Cells: 0
********** pre commands:
1 Set gprm(0) =(mov) 0
2 if ( gprm(0) == sprm(6:PGC number) ) then { LinkPGCN PGC 2 }
3 RSM
-------------------------------------------------------
It is not expected in PowerDVD.

But
----------------------------------------------------------
VTSM 1 , LU 1 (en) , 4 (dummy) - Chapters: n/a, Programs: 0, Cells: 0
********** pre commands:
1 Set gprm(0) =(mov) 4
2 if ( gprm(0) == sprm(6:PGC number) ) then { LinkPGCN PGC 2 }
3 RSM
-------------------------------------------------------
It is expected in PowerDVD.

So command of newest TW template is best for any players.

[Fallen]

1 Set gprm(0) =(mov) 4
2 if ( gprm(0) == sprm(6:PGC number) ) then { LinkPGCN PGC 2 }
3 RSM

But what about say Pgcedit,Showtime Windows MediaPlayer etc. when playback of ttn 1 starts Sprm(6) reflects the ttn# -- the menu doesn't come into it a

Are you saying my current logic using sprm(7) is the best or the above
(the above never worked right in all my tests --Crashed in all tests if resume hit before playback)

I think I'm going to solve this the hard way -- Import pre/post ttn commands from menu template If generic is used

Then a simple say addition of
Set gprm(2)=0 in the VMGM root menu
And Set gprm(2)=1 in the ttn pre commands

then dummy #4 in menutemplates only needs

if gprm(2)==1 then RSM
Link LinkCN pgc2

And all chapters will resume properly in All cases with all players both soft and hard.
But with the current menutemplate ttn post command logic
I believe the Vmgm root will come up (which is actually the correct way) after a ttn is played.

[jinjin_jp]

1 Set gprm(0) =(mov) 4
2 if ( gprm(0) == sprm(6:PGC number) ) then { LinkPGCN PGC 2 }
3 RSM
But what about say Pgcedit,Showtime Windows MediaPlayer etc. when playback of ttn 1 starts Sprm(6) reflects the ttn# -- the menu doesn't come into it a.
This command is test for finding initial value of Sprm(6) before playback about PowerDVD.
I tested to set gprm(0) = 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ---.
Only when "1 Set gprm(0) =(mov)", it jumps(returns) to PGC_2(ChapterMenu) before playback about PowerDVD.
About (my) hard-player and soft-player(MediaPlayerClassic, JetAudioPlayer),
-------------------------------------------------------
1 Set gprm(0) =(mov) 0
2 if ( gprm(0) == sprm(6:PGC number) ) then { LinkPGCN PGC 2 }
3 RSM
-------------------------------------------------------
works well. I think because their initial value of Sprm(6) before playback is 0.

Are you saying my current logic using sprm(7) is the best.
Yes. It works well in both my hard-player and soft-player(PowerDVD, MediaPlayerClassic, JetAudioPlayer).

or the above
No. Above is for test to examine feature of PowerDVD's bug.

Sorry not to explain well.

[Fallen]

Uploaded TitleWriter 2.545Beta and new SimpleMenus
TW will now import titles Pre/post/cell commands

That $%#@ Resume button should now work in all players (Even PowerDvd) and can now resume in Ch 1

Notes:
Adding Generic Menu's

Final dvd Exit will only work if #Vts's match exactly The menu template selected otherwise it resumes to Main Movie Select menu
But after adding menu the option can be used from the App >> Dvd Menu>> Set Start ... -- But it probably won't work if anything other then Menu1Movie was used

Adding Original Menu's

You can now only select Start Menu/Movie when readding original menus

FAllenAngel

[jinjin_jp]

Thanks very much.
TW v2.545b and new MenuTemplate works well as expected.

[Fallen]

Yes -- But broke A bunch of other things --2.546 uploaded. Thankfully the menutemplates are the same

I think I'm going to stop uploading betas at this point until I can release a stable version

[jinjin_jp]

Strange about bup files of new MenuTemplate.

*Menu1Movie folder : no bup file.
*Menu2Movie folder : no bup file.
*Menu4Movie folder : only 2 files(Copy of VIDEO_TS.BUP, Copy of VTS_01_0.BUP). strange file name.
*Menu10Movie folder : only 1 file(VIDEO_TS.BUP).

[Fallen]

Missed deleting those files -- And yet another Upload

[jinjin_jp]

Thanks for new template.

[Fallen]

Titlewriter Rev 2.55 (Not a Beta finally) Uploaded
Changelog included
I suggest downloading the SimpleMenus also (Can Remember if any changes since 2.546)
And Lightly updated helpfiles to reflect 2.55 Ver

Titlewriter Files are Located At:
http://www.dvdshrink.info/titlewriter/


FAllenAngel

[Adub]

I just tried to test it out and when I click open under the file tab, it crashes. I thought you might want to know that, as then number on thing you are going to do with this program is open files with it. =)

Just lettin' you know.

[Fallen]

Thanx Merlin7777
All My tests were after the registry entries were set up :stupid::stupid: :stupid:

Uploaded Fix Titlewriter 2.551

[Adub]

NO problem man, just doing my civilian duty to test and over test=)

Thanks for the fix. bye!

[dialysis1]

I must be doing something wrong. I can't get this program to work.

[Fallen]

Did you read the helpfile. Are you currently using ver 2.551.Need more specific info

[dialysis1]

Yes I'm using 2.551. I load the folder containing my movie, but can't do anything after that. No menues are selected and I can't select any.

[Fallen]

dblclk on first entry in Select Menu list box-- Browse to menu

[tomlomeo]

[QUOTE=Fallen]Post Questions about TitleWriter in this thread

Dear Fallen Angel......please help me.....i'm a senior and desperately need help on how to add a menu for 2 movies that i have reauthored......thank you

[Fallen]

Uploaded a rtf tutorial Visualhelp.rtf

Titlewriter Files are Located At:
http://www.dvdshrink.info/titlewriter/

[Fallen]

Just Uploaded Titlewriter2.6Beta Changelog inc

[Fallen]

Uploaded TitleWriter Ver 2.61
Changelog inc
Apr 8,2006
Rev 2.61
Fixed Slight misbehavior when Menu is Generic is checked Add menu was being unchecked and sometimes menu wasn't added when requested
Thumbnail Vob viewer enabled for Video_ts
Added Checkbox in settings for repeatedly importing Generic menu in Vts_01 to all Vts titles in compiliation
(This significantly reduces size of menutemplates in SimpleMenus folder)
Make sure This is checked prior to adding any of my simplemenu's

Added (In SimpleMenus) a menu for up to 20 titles

Titlewriter Files are Located At:
http://www.dvdshrink.info/titlewriter/

[jinjin_jp]

Thanks for new version and templates.
I tested ver2.61.
There seems to be a bug?

Cell ID (in IFO) of last cell of each Title which is added menu changes to 0(zero).
When not checking "In Generic Import Menu From VTS_01 For All VTS titles", only VTS_01 changes.
When checking it, all VTS change.
When using template"Menu2Movie", all 2 VTS change.
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/4448/twcellidbug0604083ru.th.jpg (http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twcellidbug0604083ru.jpg)

Edit:v2.6beta changes Cell ID to 0(zero), too.

[Fallen]

No its not a bug -- if you look inside the Menu2movie folder I left the second VTS menu there -- its a different menu there are slight differences between them.

[Fallen]

No On second thought you are right -- something fishy going on

[jinjin_jp]

@Fallen
I want to say about Cell of Titles, not Cell of Menu.

By the way, now suddenlly happens another problem, impossible to select menu template, so impossible to test.
It can't select folder, but only vts_**_0.vob. Someting was changed. I did not anything espetially. A little before I deleted old version(2.6beta), anything related?

[Fallen]

TW 2.62 Uploaded

JinJin_jp
Yes I gathered you were refering to titles
That one was hard to spot I was moving 1 to few bytes on importing commands from template

Haven't any probs on menu selection on this end at all --just readded 4 different menu's to compiliation nary a glitch

Are you sure you are not clicking on second line -- That allows selecting another VTS_??_ menu for that title

[jinjin_jp]

By the way, now suddenlly happens another problem, impossible to select menu template, so impossible to test.
It can't select folder, but only vts_**_0.vob. Someting was changed. I did not anything espetially. A little before I deleted old version(2.6beta), anything related?

The problem was resolved by once re-melting and using old version(2.546beta). After that possible to select folder of select menu template.
(It was not resolved by old version(2.6beta).)

[jinjin_jp]

if you look inside the Menu2movie folder I left the second VTS menu there -- its a different menu there are slight differences between them.

Ｉ can't find the difference of VTS_menu between VTS_01 and VTS_02 of Menu2movie, and between Menu2movie and other template.
Please teach me.

[Fallen]

try shrinking a new test folder bouncing between 2.6beta -> 2.61 may have messed up internal pointers.

then only test using 2.62

I forgot -- Differences are only on my machine not on the Simple menus I uploaded

[jinjin_jp]

I tested ver2.62 and confirmed to be resolved the problem of Cell-ID.
Thanks

What does setting of "In Generic Import Menu From VTS_01 For All VTS titles" means, when using template"Menu2Movies"?
I think there seems to be no difference between checking and not checking, because both of VTS_01 and VTS_02 have VTS-menu.　Understanding is correct?

[setarip_old]

@Fallen

Hi!Has anyone Been able To Burn A DL reliablely Via Nero Without!! converting files to an ISO in any fashionYes (All R1 - All on Verbatim DL DVD+R) - King Kong, Brothers Grimm, Beany & Cecil Special Edition, Festival Express, Matrix, Memoirs of a Geisha, The Warriors, The Great Raid, just to name a few.

All were burned from DVD "packages" (.IFOs, .BUPs, .VOBs) - NOT .ISO images...

**EDIT** BTW, for D/L media, my Pioneer 108 automatically does bitsetting...

[Fallen]

JinJin_jp
Yes correct I could delete the menu for VTS_02 and everything would be fine if the option were checked

Look in the 10Movie or 20movie template -- there is only 1 menu in vts01. if the option is checked that menu will be imported into all vts of compiliation. if option isn't checked (when 10Movie selected) only the first would get the menu.
Only doing that to reduce size of SimpleMenu folder.
DDlooping is hosting TW and I wouldn't want to abuse storage.
Was getting requests for a 20Movie template.Just uploading that template chewed up 4 Meg versus .278 Meg with this option checkbox.
In reality all menu's were exactly the same

Setarip_old
Aargh - 3 of my failures were on King Kong, Brothers Grim and Matrix same media, Region 1
All locked players (sometimes software and always hardware) at the layer break (Had to skip to Next ch and << to restart.
Heres my basic test workflow all steps played (soft player Showtime &WMedia) properly before burning

Playback (hard) on Pioneer (jukebox)
Pioneer Elite (single disc play)
Denon -2 players
Sony - Tested on 3 players

>>All Tests Burned properly (No errors reported via Nero)
>>Ripp Dvdd -- File Mode All
>>Burn through Nero Express (1:1 test) failed
>>Shrink Movie Only >> No Menu >> Burn (Nero Express) failed
>>Set layer break at old Vob Cell Id >> failed
>>Import menu via TW >> Failed -- Lockup sometimes at Menu

All test played perfectly when converted to ISO with layer break set

From my failures (And your sucess) -- I'm guessing some Nero setting is different or burner support is spotty

My recorder is PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D

I think my Pioneer 110D also does bitsetting (auto) have to check type on failures

[jinjin_jp]

JinJin_jp
Yes correct I could delete the menu for VTS_02 and everything would be fine if the option were checked

Look in the 10Movie or 20movie template -- there is only 1 menu in vts01. if the option is checked that menu will be imported into all vts of compiliation. if option isn't checked (when 10Movie selected) only the first would get the menu.
Only doing that to reduce size of SimpleMenu folder.
DDlooping is hosting TW and I wouldn't want to abuse storage.
Was getting requests for a 20Movie template.Just uploading that template chewed up 4 Meg versus .278 Meg with this option checkbox.
In reality all menu's were exactly the same
Thanks for the answer.

Can I understand that there is no problem if I delete VTS_02_0.IFO and VTS_02_0.VOB of template"Menu2Movies" ?
I think it is more common with other MenuTemplates.

[Fallen]

Delete if You wish. Just check the repeater option in settings

[setarip_old]

@Fallen

Two points, one of them (the first) significant:

1) I use ONLY Verbatim DL DVD+Rs for DL burns

2) I use NERO Burning ROM directly (not NERO Express)...

[Fallen]

Yes I've pretty much settled on Verbatims

Doesn't make a bit of difference. Bitsetting on, firmware reflashed Pioneer latest. Straight Rip from DVDD to Nero (King Kong) to Nero Burning Rom. Total Failure.

Straight Rip via DVDShrink to Iso --again failure

Tested both compiliations >> iso -- burn imgburn Everything plays perfectly

Hell studying the Nero burned dvd at the bit level i'm surprised it even loads
They are making serious packing/allocation errors and their selection of Dl point is "Creative" to say the least.

Well I guess my question is answered Nero does not support DL properly (I was fairly sure of it).

Their Own software won't even play the F%**!! disk

It seems to be dialed in to only specific hardware configurations/setups.

I'll have to start testing other burning packages
You seem to be one of the lucky ones.

Thanx for the time

[setarip_old]

You seem to be one of the lucky ones.I keep hearing that. Perhaps the fact that I continue to use v.6.6.0.1 has something to do with my consistent continuing success (I'm a FIRM believer in, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!")...Straight Rip from DVDD to Nero (King Kong) to Nero Burning Rom.Please explain, what is meant by the first reference to NERO in this sentence?

[Fallen]

My head/hands are tired -- Straight from dvdd >> File Mode to Nero Burning rom.

I believe after 29 coasters (Nero Burns) and no successes I can say I gave Nero a fair try.
And I'm hardly a Newbie -- might even be considered to be fairly skilled.
Fraid I'll have to move into Blutach's camp (At least for DL's) Nero IS a POS

[setarip_old]

I believe after 29 coasters (Nero Burns) and no successes I can say I gave Nero a fair try.Absolutely! If I had such dismal results, I'd also agree with your opinion ;>}

[r0lZ]

Have you tried to burn with PgcEdit/ImgBurn? ;)

[Fallen]

Yes -- Works fine.
But it is a workaround
Its just the extra time/steps to convert to a format that is only useful for burning.
Been using Nero (files mode) for all SL burns and never a problem.
I like things simple --having to use so many tools/time/space to make a sucessfully burn makes me want to check into the "What the hell].

All apps work in file mode I'd like to stay there

I've dug deeply into Nero output (Sector alignment,Layerbreak) and Fully understand what they are doing. Technically it shouldn't be crashing to this extent. .
The problem in Nero lies deeper -- or shallower?

Sure wish they would add a checkbox honoring an existing layerbreak (If in Viable range)

[r0lZ]

Forget Nero! If you want to burn the files directly, buy RecordNow! Currently, with PgcEdit/Imgburn, it's the only program that can burn perfect DL DVDs. The forums on DVD burning are full of complains against Nero. The only guy that seems to be happy with Nero is stearip_old. Maybe he is particularly lucky!

[Fallen]

Tried RecordNow many moons in the past. Unending problems on sl recording -- thats why I bought Nero (and DvdS had internal support)
Maybe they have gotten better.
My question would be why are you using ImgBurn when your App (and everybody elses operate in File mode)
Just a matter Of free?

[frank]

The problem is that DVD players don't understand any file mode!!
The files must be sorted and placed properly in a compliant UDF (bridge) system! The simplest way is the use of ISO image.
This is what mkisofs does, the most compliant UDF/ISO builder. Created and tested by scientists worldwide (Linux). Astronomers of observatories over the world are using cdrtools (including mkisofs) because of it's stability.
Yes, if we could directly stream mkisofs to the burning app we would be very happy.

Nero doesn't respect the 32 sector gap and the LB setting in the files! I can't count the Nero versions (incl. my coasters) with heavy bugs!
But I myself never had a coaster with PgcEdit/mkisofs - and that is what counts.

[Fallen]

Yes I design dvd editing software and I am aware of all that.
I'm fairly sure I could even write a chunk of code to do the job on the fly -- just tedious (And I really don't wish to go that route)
And yet 1 person has managed to get compliant dl dvd's out of nero -- The why of it is what i'm trying to determine and if his success can be duplicated.

Is it his winning smile -- I think not

This would greatly simplify all workflows involving "files" and save me the trouble of coding a Dvd dl "file" burner that works

[r0lZ]

My question would be why are you using ImgBurn when your App (and everybody elses operate in File mode)
Just a matter Of free?As Frank says, it's simply because the mkisofs/imgburn combo is the best burning app around. However, that's not sufficient to burn DL DVDs (otherwise ImgTool Classic should be able to do that, but it isn't.) PgcEdit must be used to modify the IFOs so that mkisofs will place the files at the right position.

Unfortunately, Nero doesn't respect what's in the IFOs, and decides itself where to put the LB. And the 32K gaps are ignored. I really don't like a program that doesn't respect the wishes of the user! Nero has also the reputation to burn many DL coasters.

Perhaps, if you are happy with its layer break decision and the fact that the burned DVD will be more subject to damages, you will find a bugfree version of Nero. Honestly, I haven't tried the newest releases. Why should I use an expansive bike when I have a Rolls-Royce for free?

But I must admit that the ISO creation is an unnecessary step that should be avoided if possible. Currently, ImgBurn doesn't accept a direct stream as input. I have asked Lightning UK! to support that, but he doesn't want, because he wants to verify the ISO compatibility before launching the burn. Pity! :(
I hope he is working on a way to burn directly the DVD files... :)